BODYGUARD..BBC 1. 9.00 pm

hampsteadclaret · Post by **hampsteadclaret** » Sun Sep 23, 2018 2:23 pm

So...final episode tonight [6/6]..

I don't watch much TV, but I do like a decent drama series..[Peaky Blinders, Happy Valley]

Anybody else been watching this one?

i think it's been pretty decent...some criticisms that it's not very realistic, and is a bit 'over the top'.

I guess if it was more 'realistic' it wouldn't be much of a drama series.

This series has grabbed a lot of people's attention - what's gonna happen to PS David Budd - will he still be with us at 10.15 pm?

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Sun Sep 23, 2018 2:26 pm

He’ll still be with us and the Home Secretary isn’t dead either , series two already being penned
Sorry to spoil it for you

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sun Sep 23, 2018 2:27 pm

Not reading any more until tomorrow, as you just KNOW somebody will post a spoiler.

clarethomer · Post by **clarethomer** » Sun Sep 23, 2018 2:28 pm

We have in the CH household and can't wait. Just waiting to be left hanging for a series 2...

Who cares if its unrealistic - it's not a documentary - the fact that it has loads of people talking about it and the theories of what is going on makes it brilliant. As they also write line of duty which is back in filming, it's good to see some decent drama on the tv.

I reckon she is alive, I believe that the PM is involved with the guy who took over from her... Long cross and Budd are going to come face to face at somepoint - maybe that is Season 2? Who knows...

evensteadiereddie · Post by **evensteadiereddie** » Sun Sep 23, 2018 2:37 pm

An excellent series only criticised because it's on the BBC. Compelling if slightly barmy - particularly tonight's conclusion - if rumour is correct.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Sun Sep 23, 2018 2:41 pm

Are we talking about Life on Mars?

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Sun Sep 23, 2018 2:42 pm

Seriously, good drama and far from make believe. Just the nasty crap folk in those areas of work and at that level, perceive to be ok.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sun Sep 23, 2018 2:56 pm

It was only until part-way through episode five when i realised "**** me! That's Robb Stark"

Anyway. i'm looking forward to it tonight.

Vintage Claret · Post by **Vintage Claret** » Sun Sep 23, 2018 3:45 pm

joey13 wrote:He’ll still be with us and the Home Secretary isn’t dead either , series two already being penned
Sorry to spoil it for you

The shows creator has already confirmed Julia is dead and apparently it's not the first time he has killed off a major character early on in one of his series.

He despatched the same actress, Keeley Hawes, in Line of Duty

Could be a bit of kidology from him of course but can't see it.

ŽižkovClaret · Post by **ŽižkovClaret** » Sun Sep 23, 2018 4:13 pm

Vintage Claret wrote:The shows creator has already confirmed Julia is dead and apparently it's not the first time he has killed off a major character early on in one of his series.

He despatched the same actress, Keeley Hawes, in Line of Duty

Could be a bit of kidology from him of course but can't see it.

Spoilers!

Wisswosswass · Post by **Wisswosswass** » Sun Sep 23, 2018 4:22 pm

Vintage Claret wrote:The shows creator has already confirmed Julia is dead and apparently it's not the first time he has killed off a major character early on in one of his series.

He despatched the same actress, Keeley Hawes, in Line of Duty

Could be a bit of kidology from him of course but can't see it.

Indeed he did. I'm a big fan of Hawes and he has a habit of killing her off if that is the case. Being spoilt today. On episode 5 of Killing Eve in a bit of a binge. Won't spoil it but I find it has more than the odd nod in the direction of the movie 'Red' and I find it equally funny and disturbing in a good way. Both very well written.

Vintage Claret · Post by **Vintage Claret** » Sun Sep 23, 2018 4:37 pm

ZizkovClaret wrote:Spoilers!

Sorry Zizkov, you never know though, could be a double bluff..

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Sun Sep 23, 2018 5:11 pm

Only seen the first episode so far - got the others recorded

The Enclosure · Post by **The Enclosure** » Sun Sep 23, 2018 6:26 pm

Excellent series.

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Sun Sep 23, 2018 7:21 pm

Surely the burning question is why is a jock wearing an England badge on his eyelid

LeadBelly · Post by **LeadBelly** » Sun Sep 23, 2018 7:23 pm

It was only until part-way through episode five when i realised "**** me! That's Robb Stark"

You should always recognise a (previous) KING O' THE NORTH.

Bodyguard has been a bit silly in some parts (re outlandish coincidences etc) - but it's pretty compelling viewing with a good range of characters /good acting + very difficult to guess what will happen next.

Millertime v1.7 · Post by **Millertime v1.7** » Sun Sep 23, 2018 7:58 pm

It all hinges on his past, hes been pulling the strings from day1. Notice how the bomber in the train toilet in episode 1 was so startled? She knew him. He planned it.
I called it. If I'm proven right Jed Mercurial should stop writing. He's no Brian DePalma.

TsarBomba · Post by **TsarBomba** » Sun Sep 23, 2018 9:51 pm

Watched the first two episodes, and it went rapidly downhill, so stopped watching.

The other half has the final episode on now. I’ve never seen such ********.

beddie · Post by **beddie** » Sun Sep 23, 2018 10:18 pm

The wife guessed the person behind it, I thought it was Budd

I still expected Julia to appear at the end.

Chuckypad · Post by **Chuckypad** » Sun Sep 23, 2018 10:20 pm

Fair s/hit that

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Sun Sep 23, 2018 10:28 pm

Very good indeed!

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sun Sep 23, 2018 11:02 pm

Well, I'll be honest, I never expected *that person* to be behind it.

And a fair bit of it was hard to keep track of. But ultimately, a very good series with some brilliant acting.

I noticed "series 1" was mentioned - could there be a series 2?

One question: What did Chanel actually play in all of this?

MRG · Post by **MRG** » Sun Sep 23, 2018 11:33 pm

I’m still not clear on what happened to be honest

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sun Sep 23, 2018 11:37 pm

MRG wrote:I’m still not clear on what happened to be honest

I know what you mean. I was texting through bits of most episodes so not sure what Chanel played in it all, and there's other bits that's a bit cloudy.

scouseclaret · Post by **scouseclaret** » Sun Sep 23, 2018 11:58 pm

FactualFrank wrote:I know what you mean. I was texting through bits of most episodes so not sure what Chanel played in it all, and there's other bits that's a bit cloudy.

Chanel was working as an aide to Julia Montague in the first episode - presumably planted there by Akins and the one who alerted him to what Montague was doing.

The bit that didn’t stack up to me was, when the police showed up at Craddock’s house to find her - a senior police office who was not previously under any suspicion, and Budd - a man who was already being pursued by the police having last been seen wearing a suicide vest, waving a gun, how would she have ended up under arrest? Surely they’d have shot him and asked questions later?

Also, why was she so keen to blurt the whole plot Scooby-doo style as soon as she got to the station?

And why would the jihadi bomb-maker woman have tried to kill his kids?

As often with these dramas, brilliant up until the end, but then it just doesn’t hang together. It all seemed a bit rushed to me.

MRG · Post by **MRG** » Mon Sep 24, 2018 12:04 am

Did we find out who actually got the bomb under the stage and what role did the security service play in it all?

It’s almost like writer panic on the finales

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Mon Sep 24, 2018 12:10 am

scouseclaret wrote:The bit that didn’t stack up to me was, when the police showed up at Craddock’s house to find her - a senior police office who was not previously under any suspicion, and Budd - a man who was already being pursued by the police having last been seen wearing a suicide vest, waving a gun, how would she have ended up under arrest? Surely they’d have shot him and asked questions later?

Yeah, I did think - "where's the evidence?" - but I assume that was all on the tablet? Another thing I'm not sure of.

Also - Budd used a radio when he had the bomb attached to him. You don't use any sort of radio or phone as it can mess up with the electrics and cause it to explode. A bit of an error there.

But still - a bit confused by the whole story with holes that need filling.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Mon Sep 24, 2018 12:15 am

MRG wrote:Did we find out who actually got the bomb under the stage and what role did the security service play in it all?
It’s almost like writer panic on the finales

I think you almost have to be the detective watching it, writing down notes. I remember partly that being explained - just can't remember what the explanation was.

colne-claret · Post by **colne-claret** » Mon Sep 24, 2018 12:22 am

MRG wrote:Did we find out who actually got the bomb under the stage and what role did the security service play in it all?

It’s almost like writer panic on the finales

The woman on the train said she paid that criminal bloke to plant the bomb.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Mon Sep 24, 2018 12:30 am

colne-claret wrote:The woman on the train said she paid that criminal bloke to plant the bomb.

Yeah think you're right. She mentioned "money". And people would do anything for money.

TsarBomba · Post by **TsarBomba** » Mon Sep 24, 2018 3:23 am

FactualFrank wrote:Yeah, I did think - "where's the evidence?" - but I assume that was all on the tablet? Another thing I'm not sure of.

Also - Budd used a radio when he had the bomb attached to him. You don't use any sort of radio or phone as it can mess up with the electrics and cause it to explode. A bit of an error there.

But still - a bit confused by the whole story with holes that need filling.

There was so much wrong with it, I don’t know where to begin. Not even remotely believable. It just got very silly.

wilks_bfc · Post by **wilks_bfc** » Mon Sep 24, 2018 6:31 am

The thing that puzzled me was the panic over the “dead mans switch” and his thumb being taped to it.

Surely if it was taped down then it would never get released even if he was shot??

TheFamilyCat · Post by **TheFamilyCat** » Mon Sep 24, 2018 7:13 am

How was the bomb under the stage detonated?

The police suspected the trigger was pressure on the stage. Was that ever proven or just a possibility? If it was the case, then somebody who knew the bomb was there had to arrange to get somebody on the stage.

claretblue · Post by **claretblue** » Mon Sep 24, 2018 7:24 am

ClaretTony wrote:Only seen the first episode so far - got the others recorded

anyone would think you've got other interests Tony!

clarethomer · Post by **clarethomer** » Mon Sep 24, 2018 8:49 am

It's TV and it's supposed to be entertaining - not a documentary.

*************may contain spoilers*************************************************

Here's my take on a few of the things asked...

If he was shot with DMS then the risk is that it could still go off even if taped - they would not want to risk that.

The police woman said she supplied the criminal with all the plans so he could get around the security in place ahead of her speech.

The terrorist said she supplied the bomb to the criminal so she could get more money to buy more guns and bombs for the cause etc.

The 2 detectives investigating it were clearly wavering on whether he was the culprit following the secret service guy being caught and released.

They also suspected the other police woman as somehow being involved so it is plausible that when the armed police officers turned up- it could be explained that he had found the mole...

Thought it was absolutely brilliant that they showed the hero getting help to improve his mental health/deal with the PTSD. Can't wait for series 2 now... Think they missed a trick with the guy from line of duty not being the one interviewing the police woman at the end though......

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:20 am

Towards the beginning it seemed Sampson had no idea who Aitkens was despite being in charge of the department which seemed to point the finger at her.
Clearly she wasn’t being told by Cradddock.

claretandy · Post by **claretandy** » Mon Sep 24, 2018 10:01 am

What i don't get is the fact that the RIPA act would have given more powers to MI5, but it was them who were trying to frame Budd and kill the Home secretary, then in the end it was Budd's boss in the police that did it ?

TheFamilyCat · Post by **TheFamilyCat** » Mon Sep 24, 2018 12:33 pm

claretandy wrote:What i don't get is the fact that the RIPA act would have given more powers to MI5, but it was them who were trying to frame Budd and kill the Home secretary, then in the end it was Budd's boss in the police that did it ?

Did you nip out to make a brew while it was on last night?

brigante · Post by **brigante** » Mon Sep 24, 2018 12:46 pm

Badly written

Badly acted

More holes than Swiss cheese

Less believable than Truthbrary

Still good fun to watch and always a plus to see Keeley Hawes feeding the pony

Masham Ale · Post by **Masham Ale** » Mon Sep 24, 2018 1:07 pm

Enjoyed it. Wasn't perfect but I really enjoyed it.
Looking forward to the new season of Line of Duty now!

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Mon Sep 24, 2018 1:15 pm

Excellent series.

Claret-On-A-T-Rex · Post by **Claret-On-A-T-Rex** » Mon Sep 24, 2018 4:54 pm

Crap final episode, the rest of the series was great.

THEWELLERNUT70 · Post by **THEWELLERNUT70** » Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:30 pm

I concur. 1st five episodes were very good, the final episode though was stupid imo.

How many snipers/ marksmen were in attendance when Budd miraculously disarmed the bomb,got out of the vest,jumped over a wall, and vanished into thin air!

Also you'd think a highly skilled forensic team would have the nounce to 1st pick up and dust a framed photograph and then feel that there was something hidden in the frame. All Budd did was pick up the frame,give it a rattle,hey presto

Also the last time we saw the device that contained all the incriminating evidence was when Budd unscrewed his boiler to take a hand gun from the left side and slide the device in the right side of the boiler, yet it was found buried in the garden.

Nowhere near as good as Line Of Duty unfortunately

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:44 pm

Im watching Strangers now. Another one to try and follow.

AlargeClaret · Post by **AlargeClaret** » Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:50 pm

Good drama, pure hokum kind,and at times beyond ludicrous but still pretty entertaining and some very tense moments.The attempted assassination in the Range Rover was brilliant tv,it played out like something out of the film Heat .Sure it ticked every “ BBC box” with women in the powerful roles lots of colour and men mainly nasty white old school types , hence why 5 live have literally been w@nking each other off all day slavering over it .Thought the guy in the lead was excellent but a 2nd series couldn’t live upto that I dont think .

conyoviejo · Post by **conyoviejo** » Mon Sep 24, 2018 10:00 pm

FactualFrank wrote:Im watching Strangers now. Another one to try and follow.

Thought I recognised his dead wife ..She was in Ballykissangel many years ago..

mill hill claret · Post by **mill hill claret** » Mon Sep 24, 2018 10:11 pm

Masham Ale wrote:Enjoyed it. Wasn't perfect but I really enjoyed it.
Looking forward to the new season of Line of Duty now!

I'd never watched line of duty until two weeks ago ...since then I've watched the first 3 series ..but series four isn't on Netflix and I'm struggling to find it anywhere ....great program..best thing I've watched for ages and is better than bodyguard imo

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Mon Sep 24, 2018 10:12 pm

conyoviejo wrote:Thought I recognised his dead wife ..She was in Ballykissangel many years ago..

And Goodnight Sweetheart.

The comedy with Nicholas Lyndhurst. I wasn't wishing you sweet dreams.

TheOriginalLongsider · Post by **TheOriginalLongsider** » Tue Sep 25, 2018 12:48 pm

I thought bodyguard was really gripping for the first ten minutes then it just got ridiculous. Can you imagine walking a suicide bomber through the streets of London to a safe place? Only to find that safe place was surrounded by houses and iron railings (amazing shrapnel).

BobSykes · Post by **BobSykes** » Tue Sep 25, 2018 12:50 pm

Blackburnclaret wrote:I'd never watched line of duty until two weeks ago ...since then I've watched the first 3 series ..but series four isn't on Netflix and I'm struggling to find it anywhere ....great program..best thing I've watched for ages and is better than bodyguard imo

Line of Duty (from the same writer and production team) is the best drama series of the past decade, if not longer, and delighted it finally got a wider audience when the last series got promoted to BBC1. I was also disappointed we didn't get a cameo from Ted and Steve at the end of Bodyguard! But good to see the trailer for LoD series 5 after Bodyguard finished - due January I believe.

I reckon iplayer will have all 4 series available before the new one launches so you should be able to catch series 4 then.

As for Bodyguard, 5 and a half gripping, if implausible, episodes. The ending felt a bit of a let down and rushed sadly. The 'reveal' of the jihadist lady was great though - brilliantly acted! That sneer she did....