Golf

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Fri Sep 28, 2018 6:04 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:There we are nailed it. If you can be better at 70 odd than 20 odd it simply cannot be a sport. Its impossible! Your body at 40 isnt as strong or quick or resillient as at 20. Never mind 70!!!

Ageist aswell as ignorant - nice !
So you think sport is all about how fit you are....the reason why a pensioner might be better than a 20 year old is 100% down to technique and skill.
Just like a 50 year old Stanley Matthews would have been better than a 20 year old playing in the Sunday League.

Old people playing golf learn to play within the constraints of their ageing body. Don't swing as hard or as far back etc.
It is a sport that you literally know nothing about.....but yet you choose to debate it - weird

TheFamilyCat · Post by **TheFamilyCat** » Fri Sep 28, 2018 6:06 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Why on earth is this filling up so much airtime?

Its a game for old men who need an excuse to get out from a whinging wife!

The Ryder Cup as to be the most overrated 'sporting' event after The Ashes. And I use the term sporting very loosely. I probably exerted more energy typing this post than you would on a round of golf!

It should be confined to The Nat Geo channel or whatever channel it is that shows 'extreme' fishing!

More overhyped than the World Cup? I don't think so, unless of course you think that the opportunity of watching Serbia v Costa Rica is worth the hype.

Hibsclaret · Post by **Hibsclaret** » Fri Sep 28, 2018 6:06 pm

Why do we need threads slating other sports. If you don’t like it don’t watch it and don’t spout about it. Some people do like it so just respect that.

I don’t particularly like some sports but don’t need to disrespect them or spout about them when I don’t understand them.

Tiger is probably the greatest ever sportsman, certainly will be if he wins another major or two. Bearing in mind the bloke has a back fusion it is truly unbelievable...

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Fri Sep 28, 2018 6:07 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Oh. And Burnley earnt more in prize money than Ajax, PSV Eindhoven, Feyenoord, Benfica, Porto and Sporting Lisbon COMBINED last year. Clearly we are better. And bigger. And more important...

Seriously WTF are you talking about ?
The point of money is how popular a sport golf is - given your original question as to why TV were devoting so much time to it.

What exactly has that got to do with Burnley earning more TV money that those clubs and which teams are better, bigger etc ?

Its like debating with a 4 year old who asks "why" after every point

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Fri Sep 28, 2018 6:12 pm

TVC15 wrote:Ageist aswell as ignorant - nice !
So you think sport is all about how fit you are....the reason why a pensioner might be better than a 20 year old is 100% down to technique and skill.
Just like a 50 year old Stanley Matthews would have been better than a 20 year old playing in the Sunday League.

Old people playing golf learn to play within the constraints of their ageing body. Don't swing as hard or as far back etc.
It is a sport that you literally know nothing about.....but yet you choose to debate it - weird

100m world record Usain Bolt at 22
Best ever swimmer Michael Phelps - retired at 32
Mike Tyson heavyweight world champion at 20
Roger Federer oldest man to win Wimbledon at 35

But Kenneth, 78 from Worsthorne could beat a 20 year old at golf. And its classed as a sport

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Fri Sep 28, 2018 6:22 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:100m world record Usain Bolt at 22
Best ever swimmer Michael Phelps - retired at 32
Mike Tyson heavyweight world champion at 20
Roger Federer oldest man to win Wimbledon at 35

But Kenneth, 78 from Worsthorne could beat a 20 year old at golf. And its classed as a sport

That’s like saying because a fit 60 year old (you should try the park run on a Saturday morning) can beat a 20 year old at running that athletics is not a real sport.

How’s it going in the Oxford Debating Society ? You still captain ?

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Fri Sep 28, 2018 6:24 pm

TVC15 wrote:That’s like saying because a fit 60 year old (you should try the park run on a Saturday morning) can beat a 20 year old at running that athletics is not a real sport.

How’s it going in the Oxford Debating Society ? You still captain ?

Do people break a sweat playing golf? Yes or no.

If the answer is yes, then clearly they are either too unfit or too hot.

Is the answer is no, and if you have any fitness at all you wont - its clearly not a sport!

TheFamilyCat · Post by **TheFamilyCat** » Fri Sep 28, 2018 6:26 pm

TVC15 wrote:That’s like saying because a fit 60 year old (you should try the park run on a Saturday morning) can beat a 20 year old at running that athletics is not a real sport.

How’s it going in the Oxford Debating Society ? You still captain ?

That's The Oxford on Plumbe Street presumably?

Aclaret · Post by **Aclaret** » Fri Sep 28, 2018 6:26 pm

Cricketfield, pour yourself a glass of red wine, put your feet up and chill out. They are only hitting a ball around with a stick and following it. Nothing to get worked up about.

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Fri Sep 28, 2018 6:29 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Do people break a sweat playing golf? Yes or no.

If the answer is yes, then clearly they are either too unfit or too hot.

Is the answer is no, and if you have any fitness at all you wont - its clearly not a sport!

Pretty sure you would break a sweat trying to hit a ball around in less than 200 for 5 hours

Sorry i did not realise the definition of a sport was based on how sweaty you got - “my bad”.....,you win Bamber !

Wile E Coyote · Post by **Wile E Coyote** » Fri Sep 28, 2018 6:39 pm

at one end of the spectrum it is extortinate, club fees etc, and usually a pompous pecking order of boring swine , at the other end, its mainly 30/40 year olds who like to think they are on the up in the local area, having learnt the lingo and progressed from local authoirity courses.
They all aspire to get well in with other business minded types and keep out the riff raff, even though the riff raff aim to get involved because its supposed to be the game to play.

Siddo · Post by **Siddo** » Fri Sep 28, 2018 6:41 pm

Hibsclaret wrote:Why do we need threads slating other sports. If you don’t like it don’t watch it and don’t spout about it. Some people do like it so just respect that.

I don’t particularly like some sports but don’t need to disrespect them or spout about them when I don’t understand them.

Tiger is probably the greatest ever sportsman, certainly will be if he wins another major or two. Bearing in mind the bloke has a back fusion it is truly unbelievable...

Can't disagree with this post, other than the claim of TW being the greatest ever sportsman for playing golf. I can't agree with that.

Hibsclaret · Post by **Hibsclaret** » Fri Sep 28, 2018 6:44 pm

Siddo wrote:Can't disagree with this post, other than the claim of TW being the greatest ever sportsman for playing golf. I can't agree with that.

Opinions are like backsides. We all have one...

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Fri Sep 28, 2018 6:51 pm

Wile E Coyote wrote:....a pompous pecking order of boring swine....

Brilliant.

exilecanada · Post by **exilecanada** » Fri Sep 28, 2018 7:07 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:
Tell me a golfer who has made more in prize money for one event than Connor McGregor did for fighting Floyd Mayweather - and he isnt even a pro boxer!

That’s an easy question to answer. Many millions paid silly money to watch two people beat the crap out of each other. Boxing or that other associated barbaric activity is a SPORT?

Best ‘the power who be’ close this thread, it’s become nothing more than a pi**ing contest.

TheFamilyCat · Post by **TheFamilyCat** » Fri Sep 28, 2018 7:11 pm

Hibsclaret wrote:Opinions are like backsides. We all have one...

And like backsides, in most cases, they should be kept to oneself.

jrgbfc · Post by **jrgbfc** » Fri Sep 28, 2018 7:35 pm

The levels of skill and concentration involved in putting a decent round of golf together over 18 holes is not to be sniffed at. And yes fitness as well it's certainly not easy lugging a golf bag around for 4 hours.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Fri Sep 28, 2018 7:43 pm

Wile E Coyote wrote:at one end of the spectrum it is extortinate, club fees etc, and usually a pompous pecking order of boring swine , at the other end, its mainly 30/40 year olds who like to think they are on the up in the local area, having learnt the lingo and progressed from local authoirity courses.
They all aspire to get well in with other business minded types and keep out the riff raff, even though the riff raff aim to get involved because its supposed to be the game to play.

Absolutely nailed it!

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Fri Sep 28, 2018 7:46 pm

TVC15 wrote:Pretty sure you would break a sweat trying to hit a ball around in less than 200 for 5 hours

Sorry i did not realise the definition of a sport was based on how sweaty you got - “my bad”.....,you win Bamber !

Not always. But in most cases. Fishing for example. Different extremes of the sport. Sea fishing would work up a real sweat. Although it can be much less exerting of course.

But overall yes, it must involve some levels of physical and mental demand as well as intelligence. Sadly golf involves little to none of these.

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Fri Sep 28, 2018 7:54 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Not always. But in most cases. Fishing for example. Different extremes of the sport. Sea fishing would work up a real sweat. Although it can be much less exerting of course.

But overall yes, it must involve some levels of physical and mental demand as well as intelligence. Sadly golf involves little to none of these.

How would know if you don’t play and aren’t interested in the game , you’ve certainly got enough to say about something you aren’t interested in

taio · Post by **taio** » Fri Sep 28, 2018 7:55 pm

I'm not a golf fanatic but enjoy watching the Masters and Ryder Cup in particular. Unfortunately I haven't seen any of today's coverage because of work but will watch plenty tomorrow. An amazing result this afternoon. Top golfers possess enormous amounts of skill - I've always thought that excelling in golf or snooker must be about the hardest to achieve of all sports.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Fri Sep 28, 2018 8:24 pm

joey13 wrote:How would know if you don’t play and aren’t interested in the game , you’ve certainly got enough to say about something you aren’t interested in

By the sort of folk that partake and watch!

Cubanclaret · Post by **Cubanclaret** » Fri Sep 28, 2018 8:29 pm

I don’t watch golf generally but I think the Ryder cup is very addictive viewing. The format of the competition is pretty ingenious, bringing a compelling mix of strategy, skill and teamwork to what is otherwise the most individualistic of sports. In the event of a closely matched competition, the singles on Sunday is one of the great sporting spectacles, the ebb and flow with all the crowd noise on the course and the outcome often hanging in the balance. Plus the chance to win anything against ‘U-S-A’ is worth getting behind.

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Fri Sep 28, 2018 8:30 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:By the sort of folk that partake and watch!

You’re actually quite embarrassing

SalisburyClaret · Post by **SalisburyClaret** » Fri Sep 28, 2018 8:33 pm

And another thing - how come there's a Europe team and a USA team? There is no teamwork, they don't work together or pass the ball to each each other, they often don't even speak to each other. There is no element of teamwork at all

It's very odd

Bop · Post by **Bop** » Fri Sep 28, 2018 8:34 pm

The golf jumpers aren’t what they used to be.

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Fri Sep 28, 2018 9:15 pm

SalisburyClaret wrote:And another thing - how come there's a Europe team and a USA team? There is no teamwork, they don't work together or pass the ball to each each other, they often don't even speak to each other. There is no element of teamwork at all

It's very odd

Apart from when they go round in teams of two, taking alternate shots you mean?

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Fri Sep 28, 2018 9:29 pm

Tall Paul wrote:Apart from when they go round in teams of two, taking alternate shots you mean?

TCV15 already said it was an individual sport though? Make your mind up chaps!

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Fri Sep 28, 2018 9:31 pm

SalisburyClaret wrote:And another thing - how come there's a Europe team and a USA team?

It's very odd

And why no African team? Or Asian?

I am sure there were plenty of well known golfers from Zimbabwe, South Africa and Australia?

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Fri Sep 28, 2018 9:49 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:And why no African team? Or Asian?

I am sure there were plenty of well known golfers from Zimbabwe, South Africa and Australia?

one for the future... Samuel Ryder started the whole thing off original Great Britain v America. Then under some protestation from Ryders family it became Europe v USA. It could happen at a future date. But for now it's Us and Them!

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Fri Sep 28, 2018 9:59 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:TCV15 already said it was an individual sport though? Make your mind up chaps!

Don’t get paid for the one team event they play every 2 years.

You still have not answered as to which individual sport attracts more money than golf. For someone who seems to know so much about the game you still have not said one factual thing about the sport.

I don’t like American football but I would not go on one of their forums and just make sh-it up because I don’t like it. Instead I just don’t watch it and appreciate the fact that there are tens of millions of people who do like it.....and also that the people who play it are actually good at what they do.

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Fri Sep 28, 2018 10:02 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:And why no African team? Or Asian?

I am sure there were plenty of well known golfers from Zimbabwe, South Africa and Australia?

Great point - it’s a bit like England not being allowed in the Copa America or the African Nations cup. Absolute disgrace.

There are loads of well known footballers who come from England.

exilecanada · Post by **exilecanada** » Fri Sep 28, 2018 10:12 pm

Tall Paul wrote:Apart from when they go round in teams of two, taking alternate shots you mean?

Matching players in an alternate shot format can a tricky situation. Top end golfers use different golf balls, Titleist, Bridgestone, Callaway etc, specifically manufactured for their personally preferred spin rate, etc. These guys don’t just go to the store and buy whatever golf balls are on sale this week.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Fri Sep 28, 2018 11:16 pm

TVC15 wrote:
I don’t like American football but I would not go on one of their forums and just make sh-it up because I don’t like it.

Is this a golf forum?

tybfc · Post by **tybfc** » Fri Sep 28, 2018 11:33 pm

cricketfieldclarets - Do you have some kind of problem in life that you have to argue with everybody?

I can get you phone numbers / websites for help if you wish?

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Sat Sep 29, 2018 12:14 am

tybfc wrote:cricketfieldclarets - Do you have some kind of problem in life that you have to argue with everybody?

I can get you phone numbers / websites for help if you wish?

No. Just golf and cricket fan boys.

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Sat Sep 29, 2018 12:20 am

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Is this a golf forum?

Remind me which tit started a thread about a sport he knows nothing about ?

Wile E Coyote · Post by **Wile E Coyote** » Sat Sep 29, 2018 12:24 am

and a sport which shouldn't be even televised, because it is dull x ten.

tybfc · Post by **tybfc** » Sat Sep 29, 2018 12:30 am

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Is this a golf forum?

It may be as well be because you seem to know as little about golf or cricket or football or life in general than my guinea pig.

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Sat Sep 29, 2018 12:32 am

Wile E Coyote wrote:at one end of the spectrum it is extortinate, club fees etc, and usually a pompous pecking order of boring swine , at the other end, its mainly 30/40 year olds who like to think they are on the up in the local area, having learnt the lingo and progressed from local authoirity courses.
They all aspire to get well in with other business minded types and keep out the riff raff, even though the riff raff aim to get involved because its supposed to be the game to play.

Another one who knows absolutely nothing about the sport. Your description is from the 1970s.
You are literally making sh-it up.

You seriously think most of the people playing golf do so to get on the social ladder ? Playing golf at vast majority of courses round Burnley is cheaper than watching football. I have never met or spoken to one person who plays golf who is there for any other reason than to play golf.

You have a lot of irrational hatred for golf and lots of other things....must be weird living in your head making all this stuff up just so you can hate it !

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Sat Sep 29, 2018 12:59 am

Its just not cricket!

Wile E Coyote · Post by **Wile E Coyote** » Sat Sep 29, 2018 2:08 am

TVC15 wrote:Another one who knows absolutely nothing about the sport. Your description is from the 1970s.
You are literally making sh-it up.

You seriously think most of the people playing golf do so to get on the social ladder ? Playing golf at vast majority of courses round Burnley is cheaper than watching football. I have never met or spoken to one person who plays golf who is there for any other reason than to play golf.

You have a lot of irrational hatred for golf and lots of other things....must be weird living in your head making all this stuff up just so you can hate it !

no, you are mistaken, my hatred is rational. you assume too much because you are a simpleton.

taio · Post by **taio** » Sat Sep 29, 2018 6:51 am

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Is this a golf forum?

You started the thread you tit.

Wisswosswass · Post by **Wisswosswass** » Sat Sep 29, 2018 7:18 am

Clearly not a sport for old men. You do have to be some kind of 'special' to watch a grown man 'tee-off' and get excited about him hitting a little ball and then.....walking off though. Then, if you can be bothered, walking to watch them hit a tiny ball again. It's not a spectator sport. People enjoy it and that's fair enough. Some people enjoy dogging but I don't see that on TV. Probably has the same popularity, if not more.

Siddo · Post by **Siddo** » Sat Sep 29, 2018 7:29 am

TVC15 wrote:Another one who knows absolutely nothing about the sport. Your description is from the 1970s.
You are literally making sh-it up.

You seriously think most of the people playing golf do so to get on the social ladder ? Playing golf at vast majority of courses round Burnley is cheaper than watching football. I have never met or spoken to one person who plays golf who is there for any other reason than to play golf.

You have a lot of irrational hatred for golf and lots of other things....must be weird living in your head making all this stuff up just so you can hate it !

Not so sure about that. I started work at a well known white goods manufacturer a few years ago on the top team. One of my peers asked me if I played golf, to which I replied no. He told me to start playing if I wanted to progress further.
I didn't start playing and missed every golf day with the board and directors. It was always commented on.
However I was good at my job and did ok anyway.
I have a lot of friends who work in truck,bus and car sales. They daren't miss the frequent golf days....

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Sat Sep 29, 2018 7:52 am

Siddo wrote:Not so sure about that. I started work at a well known white goods manufacturer a few years ago on the top team. One of my peers asked me if I played golf, to which I replied no. He told me to start playing if I wanted to progress further.
I didn't start playing and missed every golf day with the board and directors. It was always commented on.
However I was good at my job and did ok anyway.
I have a lot of friends who work in truck,bus and car sales. They daren't miss the frequent golf days....

You are talking about the minority of circumstances. If you saw the people who are playing golf this weekend at all the golf courses round here and across the country - people of all ages and plenty of children aswell they bear absolutely no resemblance to what is being described on this thread.
I am not suggesting or trying to persuade you at all to like golf btw - but take a look at a local course like Townley any day of the week and you will just see normal Burnley people many of whom follow the football club playing a game they enjoy.

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Sat Sep 29, 2018 7:57 am

Wile E Coyote wrote:no, you are mistaken, my hatred is rational. you assume too much because you are a simpleton.

"i detest it too, always have, its a class thing I suppose, but my memories are of smug oafs mainly boorish sportsmans dinner , cigar smoking types, car salesmen, with overstretched vee necked jumpers and hideous pants"

Aye perfectly rational to "detest" a sport because you think they all dress like Ronnie Corbett and you have an image of the sport from a monty python sketch 40 years ago. Clever bloke you....

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Sat Sep 29, 2018 9:36 am

"Hello TVC15, can I join this discussion with you it seems right up my street"

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Sat Sep 29, 2018 9:58 am

Devils_Advocate wrote:"Hello TVC15, can I join this discussion with you it seems right up my street"

Your input is always welcome DA.....
.....I say "always" but I actually mean only when it concurs with mine !!!

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