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Big Kev

Post by Rodney122 » Mon Oct 01, 2018 10:44 am

Just wanted to get your opinion on the Kevin Long situation. Thought he played a good game for the time he was on, and he has always been a solid stand in for tarks or mee. Question is, should he now start ahead of Mee? In my opinion Mee has lost his drive and just doesn't seem interested, I think it's only fair to give the young lad a chance as he has proved himself on more then one occasion! Thoughts lads? Rodney :geek:

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Re: Big Kev

Post by thatdberight » Mon Oct 01, 2018 10:45 am

Rodney122 wrote:Just wanted to get your opinion on the Kevin Long situation. Thought he played a good game for the time he was on, and he has always been a solid stand in for tarks or mee. Question is, should he now start ahead of Mee? In my opinion Mee has lost his drive and just doesn't seem interested, I think it's only fair to give the young lad a chance as he has proved himself on more then one occasion! Thoughts lads? Rodney :geek:
"Young lad"....

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Re: Big Kev

Post by piston broke » Mon Oct 01, 2018 10:50 am

Never lets us down but only seems to play right side and I don’t think Tarks is as good on the left. If Mee doesn’t buck up it will be Gibsons shirt soon enough.
Ben Mee was a slow starter last year but this time it has gone on too long. I don’t agree with them calling his defending but his passing is worse than atrocious.
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Re: Big Kev

Post by randomclaret2 » Mon Oct 01, 2018 10:50 am

The problem is Mee is left sided.If Gibson had been fit I think he may have been playing by now.

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Re: Big Kev

Post by ClaretAndJew » Mon Oct 01, 2018 11:07 am

He's 28, young lad? Are you in the camp that thinks Joe Hart is massively older than Heaton?

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Post by cricketfieldclarets » Mon Oct 01, 2018 12:06 pm

He is what he is. A valuable resrve who is patient and rarely lets us down. But hes not as good as Tarks. Goal aside at Burton he wasnt great.

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Post by Spike » Mon Oct 01, 2018 1:17 pm

no Long shouldn't start instead of Mee.

Besides Dyche and me know best

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Post by Im_not_Robbie_Blake » Mon Oct 01, 2018 1:23 pm

Such an improved player, but not to be picked before Sir Benjamin.

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Re: Big Kev

Post by Claretmatt4 » Mon Oct 01, 2018 2:54 pm

Give it a rest Dave

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Re: Big Kev

Post by Down_Rover » Mon Oct 01, 2018 4:15 pm

One of my favourite players owing to his loyalty and dedication. He has improved year on year and is a more than able deputy.

He does have his limitations tho. Prefers to face the game and struggles when attackers get behind him and his ball control is poor. At Burton he was terrified when receiving balls in tight spaces

A more than useful squad player, a threat in their box, but no more than that

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Re: Big Kev

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Oct 04, 2018 8:25 am

Rodney122 wrote:In my opinion Mee has lost his drive and just doesn't seem interested, I think it's only fair to give the young lad a chance as he has proved himself on more then one occasion! Thoughts lads? Rodney :geek:
Doesn't seem interested? Playing well or badly, that is a ridiculous condemnation of a player who works his socks off in every game. And the young lad you refer to, who doesn't even play in Mee's position on the left, is about one year younger than Mee.
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Re: Big Kev

Post by IanMcL » Thu Oct 04, 2018 8:44 am

There is only one Ben Mee and he puts everything into defending our goal.

Gibson is his stand in and Long for Tarkowski.

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Post by paulatky » Thu Oct 04, 2018 9:03 am

Ben Mee has looked a shadow of himself so far this season.
More worrying for me than his distribution is the fact he looks totally disinterested and looks like he doesnt want to me here.

Whether its because he is now a father to a6 month old baby and that has made him realise there’s more important things in life I dont know.Also just signed a new contract,which if not slready so,sets him up financially for the rest of his life.

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Post by ClaretTony » Thu Oct 04, 2018 9:05 am

paulatky wrote:the fact he looks totally disinterested and looks like he doesnt want to me here
Which is probably why he committed himself to a new deal - no way does he look disinterested and no way have his performances ever suggested he doesn't want to be here.

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Re: Big Kev

Post by bfccrazy » Thu Oct 04, 2018 9:16 am

I love Kevin Long - IDST

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Re: Big Kev

Post by RocketLawnChair » Thu Oct 04, 2018 9:24 am

Mee hasn’t looked any different this season to any other IMO I do think at times he is a tad overrated by some on here. Decision making can be rash and poor distribution are his weaknesses but undoubtedly brave as a lion and better than Kevin Long.

As for Long very capable and dependable for a small block of games as back up but when the best are available he should be on the bench. Similar with Westwood IMO
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Re: Big Kev

Post by Burnley1989 » Thu Oct 04, 2018 9:25 am

paulatky wrote:Ben Mee has looked a shadow of himself so far this season.
More worrying for me than his distribution is the fact he looks totally disinterested and looks like he doesnt want to me here.

Whether its because he is now a father to a6 month old baby and that has made him realise there’s more important things in life I dont know.Also just signed a new contract,which if not slready so,sets him up financially for the rest of his life.
He has been one of the most important players at the club for many years and set the bar very high, believe or not players have slight dips in form. There’s no way, contracts and baby’s have anything to do with that. Give the lad a break.

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Post by piston broke » Thu Oct 04, 2018 9:35 am

Burnley1989 wrote:He has been one of the most important players at the club for many years and set the bar very high, believe or not players have slight dips in form. There’s no way, contracts and baby’s have anything to do with that. Give the lad a break.
Babies affect players. Night time feeds, waking up crying. Any parent suffers until they get through that cycle. I didn’t know he had a new born but that could very easily be a contributory factor to why he is off his best

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Re: Big Kev

Post by Burnley1989 » Thu Oct 04, 2018 9:56 am

Footballers don't tend to share a room with their partner the night before a game, either hotels with the team or 1 of their many spare rooms.

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Post by paulatky » Thu Oct 04, 2018 12:10 pm

Burnley1989,I was giving him a break by suggesting a couple of reasons for the apparent change in his demeanour on the pitch this season.
If 1988 is your your of birth it may well be you are not a father yet, Most of us who are recognise its a life changing experience.

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Post by paulatky » Thu Oct 04, 2018 12:15 pm

Steve Macmarn as manager of Blackpool did a very entertsinong post match intetview years ago in which he blamed one of his players poor petfetmsnces on him being up all night with his baby, saying that was the wife’s job.
Bottom line is a lot of fathers want to be involved and hands on.

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Post by RocketLawnChair » Thu Oct 04, 2018 12:39 pm

With respect paulatky I would imagine a professional footballer will have far more free time to spend at home with the wife and kids than the average Joe in the street.

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Post by CrosspoolClarets » Thu Oct 04, 2018 1:39 pm

It does Long no favours to be suggesting he is good enough to be a first choice starter for us.

He is a decent stand-in but only that. He was massively exposed in both games against Olympiakos, especially the mistake at the Turf to give them the crucial away goal. He struggled in games last season - no coincidence that the first three games of our good run in the spring, he didn’t play. He struggles with trickery and sudden changes of pace and direction. As I said though, he is a decent stand-in, just one who, like many stand-ins, weakens us considerably.

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Post by Burnley1989 » Thu Oct 04, 2018 2:34 pm

paulatky wrote:Burnley1989,I was giving him a break by suggesting a couple of reasons for the apparent change in his demeanour on the pitch this season.
If 1988 is your your of birth it may well be you are not a father yet, Most of us who are recognise its a life changing experience.
:lol: :lol: :lol: I have children as I'm 29 years old, I know I'm a bit too young, but I was an early starter.

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Re: Big Kev

Post by Boll ewood » Fri Oct 05, 2018 2:47 am

I'm not overly keen on long to be honest. I'm no statto but I'd like to know how many clean sheets we have actually kept when long has featured.

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Re: Big Kev

Post by Rodneyyouplonker » Fri Oct 05, 2018 9:46 am

Rodney122 wrote:Just wanted to get your opinion on the Kevin Long situation. Thought he played a good game for the time he was on, and he has always been a solid stand in for tarks or mee. Question is, should he now start ahead of Mee? In my opinion Mee has lost his drive and just doesn't seem interested, I think it's only fair to give the young lad a chance as he has proved himself on more then one occasion! Thoughts lads? Rodney :geek:
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Re: Big Kev

Post by BFCmaj » Fri Oct 05, 2018 9:52 am

Boll ewood wrote:I'm not overly keen on long to be honest. I'm no statto but I'd like to know how many clean sheets we have actually kept when long has featured.
https://www.premierleague.com/players/3 ... Long/stats" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: Big Kev

Post by Lord Beamish » Fri Oct 05, 2018 9:53 am

paulatky wrote:Steve Macmarn as manager of Blackpool did a very entertsinong post match intetview years ago in which he blamed one of his players poor petfetmsnces on him being up all night with his baby, saying that was the wife’s job.
Bottom line is a lot of fathers want to be involved and hands on.
What’s McMahon doing these days, I wonder? Most likely getting p!ssed and falling out with his own shadow.

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Re: Big Kev

Post by Boll ewood » Fri Oct 05, 2018 10:47 pm

Thanks bfcmaj

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Re: Big Kev

Post by paulus the woodgnome » Fri Oct 05, 2018 11:44 pm

That is interesting. Looked up Defour - 45 appearances and 73 points gained from those games. God we need him back.

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Re: Big Kev

Post by paulus the woodgnome » Fri Oct 05, 2018 11:49 pm

Make that 63 points - I still want him back : o )

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