Yorke applies for Villa Job

[claretburns]

How long before he complains about not getting the job because of his skin colour rather than the fact he has no coaching experience and will be beaten to the job by a more qualified candidate?

[Rowls]

We've no idea if he will do that or not.

Had he got previous for whinging about not being employed?

[claretonthecoast1882]

By text or did he ring into Aston fm and as them to apply for him

[Rowls]

It'd be great for football if more clubs appointed manager's based on their applications (as we appear to do) but for now I'm more than happy for the other clubs to be appointing based on who is currently on the merry-go-round or who used to be a decent player. It gives us a competitive advantage.

[claretburns]

We've no idea if he will do that or not.

Had he got previous for whinging about not being employed?

Yes Rowls, he applied for the Villa job after Sherwood left, applied by text and pulled out the race card when Villa never responded to him.

[gawthorpe_view]

Sol Campbell as number 2 or rival for the job?

[Buxtonclaret]

Yes Rowls, he applied for the Villa job after Sherwood left, applied by text and pulled out the race card when Villa never responded to him.

You'd be best posting that this way, claretburns.


Oui Rowls, il a postulé au poste de Villa après le départ de Sherwood, a postulé par SMS et retiré la carte de course alors que Villa ne lui avait jamais répondu.

[Socrates]

How long before he complains about not getting the job because of his skin colour rather than the fact he has no coaching experience and will be beaten to the job by a more qualified candidate?

How long?

About the same amount of time it takes for a poster on here saying any person of colour applying for a managers job will play the race card when they don’t get the gig, even before they’ve said it?

Am I doing this right?

[Rowls]

Yes Rowls, he applied for the Villa job after Sherwood left, applied by text and pulled out the race card when Villa never responded to him.

OK, I don't remember a quote from him though.

Certainly John Barnes and Carlton Palmer has history on the blaming their skin colour thing, in spite of their evident atrocious records as managers.

[Socrates]

OK, I don't remember a quote from him though.

Certainly John Barnes and Carlton Palmer has history on the blaming their skin colour thing, in spite of their evident atrocious records as managers.

Cool.

If two of them said it, it must apply to all of them then.

Am I doing this right?

[Rowls]

Cool.

If two of them said it, it must apply to all of them then.

Am I doing this right?

No you're doing it completely wrong.

If John Barnes and Carlton Palmer 'said it' then they are on record as having 'said it'.

Therefore those two have a record of having 'said it'.

It's not tricky, is it?

I'd be fearful for your ability to dress yourself in the morning if it weren't obvious you're being deliberately stupid here Socrates. You're on a massive loser here.

[Rowls]

Cool.
If two of them said it, it must apply to all of them then.
Am I doing this right?

And who are you talking about when you refer to "them"? *mock outrage*

If we're going to be moronic about this perhaps you could clear this matter up?

Or else we could just be a little bit more sensible, eh?

[Blackrod]

How many non league clubs has he applied to ? How many have turned him down ?
How much coaching has he done or even assisting lower down the pyramid ?

[Dyched]

Never lost a game as a manager. Strong candidate imo.

[tiger76]

How long before he complains about not getting the job because of his skin colour rather than the fact he has no coaching experience and will be beaten to the job by a more qualified candidate?

Have Lampard or Joey got any previous coaching experience,they are faring OK in their current roles,personally i feel too much emphasis is placed on training badges etc.

Darren Moore at WBA was thrust into the hotseat and he's proving his worth,there are other examples where it went pear shaped,Brian Kidd and Michael Appleton from our dear neighbours bring back rosy memories.

You can have all the qualifications in the world,but ultimately you have to man manage the dressing room at the end of the day,if you can't achieve that nothing else matters.

BTW this doesn't automatically mean i'd employ Yorke,but he has won major honours and played at the highest level of club football.

[Blackrod]

So had Waddle.

[Socrates]

And who are you talking about when you refer to "them"? *mock outrage*

If we're going to be moronic about this perhaps you could clear this matter up?

Or else we could just be a little bit more sensible, eh?

Man ..... not a big fan of irony or parody I see then.

[Socrates]

No you're doing it completely wrong.

If John Barnes and Carlton Palmer 'said it' then they are on record as having 'said it'.

Therefore those two have a record of having 'said it'.

It's not tricky, is it?

I'd be fearful for your ability to dress yourself in the morning if it weren't obvious you're being deliberately stupid here Socrates. You're on a massive loser here.

Sorry.

Maybe you are a fan of irony after all?

Genuinely tough to know.

Your either the world’s greatest character poster. Or a two-bit caricature pound shop Rod Liddle type who copies his posting style from morons and thinks flexing his typing muscles wins arguments.

As I say, genuinely tough to know.

[Juan Tanamera]

You'd be best posting that this way, claretburns.


Oui Rowls, il a postulé au poste de Villa après le départ de Sherwood, a postulé par SMS et retiré la carte de course alors que Villa ne lui avait jamais répondu.

Now cut that out Buxton and talk proper England.

[Stalbansclaret]

Here you are Socrates

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/foo ... 67266.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[Top Claret]

The only thing Dwight Yorke is famous for since he left United, is banging that Essex tart with the big lips and tits

[Rowls]

Man ..... not a big fan of irony or parody I see then.

Oh!

You were slyly insinuating I was being racist for the sake of irony.

How very droll.

That's about as funny as Russell Brand or a malicious false rape accusation

[Bin Ont Turf]

He won't get the job because he's as ugly as sin.

[Spiral]

That's about as funny as...a malicious false rape accusation

This is why people compare you to Rod Liddle. You have a knack for coming across as a crypto-fascist sealioning gobshite.

[Rowls]

This is why people compare you to Rod Liddle. You have a knack for coming across as a crypto-fascist sealioning gobshite.

You'll have to explain a) what that is and b) why you believe it to be true.

Here's what happened:

Socrates made a veiled insinuation that I was being "racist" when I evidently was not. I took umbrage with this.

Sorry to be such a stick in the mud but no - I do not find casually throwing around serious accusations (especially when the accusations are evidentally false) to be at all acceptable so I'm rarely going to leave them unchallenged.

It was a childish and stupid thing for Socrates to do. He was wrong to do so - unless you think that casual and "ironic" accusations of racism are a jolly good jape and something we should all laugh about.

You can compare me to Rod Liddle without justifying it all you like. You've just joined in a conversation without adding an ounce of insight or civility and instead you've chosen to start swearing at me and calling me made-up names: You have come across as an utter tw@t.

[Spiral]

You're still sounding like a sealioning crypto-fascist.

By the way, if one only ever responded to another poster directly on their insistence, internet forums wouldn't work. (That's called an e-mail.)

[Bullabill]

Thanks for your contribution Spiral, but we can do without that crap.

[HieronymousBoschHobs]

We've no idea if he will do that or not.

Had he got previous for whinging about not being employed?

Never thought I would agree with you Rowls, but spot on here. The guy is a famous player applying for a job - absolutely standard. OP's presumption seems to be that because he's black he will say, if the application is unsuccessful, he didn't get the job for that reason. That presumption is unwarranted. Would you make a thread like this if a famous white player was trying to get a managerial job?

Leave it out, or people will kick it out.

[Archer]

Never thought I would agree with you Rowls, but spot on here. The guy is a famous player applying for a job - absolutely standard. OP's presumption seems to be that because he's black he will say, if the application is unsuccessful, he didn't get the job for that reason. That presumption is unwarranted. Would you make a thread like this if a famous white player was trying to get a managerial job?

Leave it out, or people will kick it out.

Well this took a lot of googling for context...

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/foo ... 67266.html

[Stalbansclaret]

Archer...see my post number 20 above on this thread....just seemed to get a big Deakin-style WHOOSH on here but I think this sets the context for the OP.

[Shore claret]

This is why people compare you to Rod Liddle. You have a knack for coming across as a crypto-fascist sealioning gobshite.

What does sealioning mean?

[Rowls]

What does sealioning mean?

Best guess is it means that he has a hang over today.

[Spiral]

What does sealioning mean?

To quote quora

Sealioning is the name given to a specific, pervasive form of aggressive cluelessness, that masquerades as a sincere desire to understand.

A Sealion is a person who, when confronted with a fact that they don't care to acknowledge, say, the persistence of systemic racism in America, will ask endlessly for "proof" and insist that it is the other person's job to stop everything they are doing and address the issue to their satisfaction.

https://www.quora.com/What-is-sealioning" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[Spiral]

It's quite useful to be aware of it because some people often attempt to undermine and stifle sincere debate that might otherwise make their stances on certain topics seem untenable and unreasonable by putting an arbitrary burden of proof on an arbitrary point only tenuously related to the main point being made while maintaining the utterly false pretence of civility and sincere curiosity.

Worth pointing out, also, that in post #2, Rowls is ironically sealioning (even if he is unaware of the vocabulary describing what he's doing) to further the bigoted idea of the exploitation of the 'race card'. I say that comfortable in the knowledge he's about the last person on this entire forum who would entertain the notion that perhaps black managers have historically been overlooked on the grounds of their race,

[Rowls]

It's quite useful to be aware of it because some people often attempt to undermine and stifle sincere debate

Oh the ironing.

As Bart Simpson might say.

[Spiral]

Showing your age, there. No one sane has watched The Simpsons for a decade.

[Rowls]

It's true.

I'm older than 10.