Vokes elbow?

Sean Dyche's Watch · Post by **Sean Dyche's Watch** » Sat Oct 06, 2018 7:56 pm

When Schindler was down for a few minutes I thought it was because the ball had hit him in the face, but I've seen news articles saying that Vokes elbowed him? Or is this a different incident that I've missed this afternoon?

Aclaret · Post by **Aclaret** » Sat Oct 06, 2018 7:59 pm

Westwood smacked him in face with a shot, from my seat anyway.

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Sat Oct 06, 2018 8:01 pm

Vokes elbowed him in the mush seconds before the shot was whacked at him. I dont think Vokes meant to injure him but he shouldnt be swinging his elbow as he did to hold off their player and could have been a red if seen by the officials

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Sat Oct 06, 2018 8:02 pm

No contact from a Claret. Ref though played on hoping Huddersfield would score before stopping the game to allow paramedics to administer oxygen to an injured player.

Sean Dyche's Watch · Post by **Sean Dyche's Watch** » Sat Oct 06, 2018 8:03 pm

Ah, looks like I've missed the elbow whilst I was watching the flight of the ball. I was wondering how a ball in the face caused so much of an injury.

ClaretAL · Post by **ClaretAL** » Sat Oct 06, 2018 8:04 pm

Aclaret wrote:Westwood smacked him in face with a shot, from my seat anyway.

That is how i saw it too.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Sat Oct 06, 2018 8:04 pm

Was it Vokes? Schindler thought Wood but says it was not deliberate- just creating space for himself and caught the lad. Credit to Schindler for taking it on the chin!

piston broke · Post by **piston broke** » Sat Oct 06, 2018 8:07 pm

It looked like Wood on my stream but wasn’t a nasty elbow although it did catch his snozz. The shot then also hit him on the snozz and led to the delay. Why Kavanagh didn’t stop the game immediately we’ll never know.

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Sat Oct 06, 2018 8:11 pm

Martin Keown on Final Score also said he thought Vokes had "done" Schindler.

However, if Schindler himself says it was "not deliberate", then OK.

THEWELLERNUT70 · Post by **THEWELLERNUT70** » Sat Oct 06, 2018 8:12 pm

Vokes smashed the point of his elbow full into the face of Schindler, as the the ball fell (Westwood?) got off a shot which cannoned straight into the unfortunate and still startled ,from the elbow, Schindlers mush. However it was the initial elbow that started the bloodbath

dermotdermot · Post by **dermotdermot** » Sat Oct 06, 2018 8:16 pm

It looked a bit iffy to me. Vokes' elbow was a little early as they jumped. My first thought was that he would miss a few games after it was spotted. , but if the cut was caused by the shot, well that's okay.

burnleymik · Post by **burnleymik** » Sat Oct 06, 2018 8:22 pm

Yeah I missed the elbow too. Just saw the ball cannon into his face and then he stumbled backwards and put his hand up to get attention then went down.

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Sat Oct 06, 2018 8:22 pm

That big lump for Huddersfield that was fouling Tarky all game did him with a fore arm late in the game.

I'm not surprised as the ref just let everything go.

burnleymik · Post by **burnleymik** » Sat Oct 06, 2018 8:23 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:That big lump for Huddersfield that was fouling Tarky all game did him with a fore arm late in the game.

I'm not surprised as the ref just let everything go.

That must have been after Tarks took him out of his pocket!

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Sat Oct 06, 2018 8:28 pm

Vokes blamed ,Lowton blamed,
even Woods.........Anyone else to go on Schindlers list ?

Inchy · Post by **Inchy** » Sat Oct 06, 2018 8:35 pm

Didn’t see the incident well but fair player to Schindler for taking it on the chin and not blaming vokes. Also fair play for carrying on, seen a pic on Twitter and it looks a right mess

burnleymik · Post by **burnleymik** » Sat Oct 06, 2018 8:39 pm

Can anyone find a clip of the incident?

THEWELLERNUT70 · Post by **THEWELLERNUT70** » Sat Oct 06, 2018 8:49 pm

Inchy wrote:Didn’t see the incident well but fair player to Schindler for taking it on the chin and not blaming vokes. Also fair play for carrying on, seen a pic on Twitter and it looks a right mess

I thought Schindler took it more on his nose

THEWELLERNUT70 · Post by **THEWELLERNUT70** » Sat Oct 06, 2018 8:50 pm

burnleymik wrote:Can anyone find a clip of the incident?

It'll be on MOTD a little later on no doubt

TheOriginalLongsider · Post by **TheOriginalLongsider** » Sat Oct 06, 2018 8:52 pm

Was watching on tv. Definitely vokes elbow followed by a smash in the face from the ball

NRC · Post by **NRC** » Sat Oct 06, 2018 10:03 pm

I was stunned he carrried on playing. The close up of Schindler’s face on live TV was not a pretty sight. Real credit to him for saying it was just a playing incident

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Sat Oct 06, 2018 10:39 pm

I don't know about an elbow but that was another cracking header from him.

Need to stop playing him and Barnes as a pair though, not good enough.

Burnleyareback2 · Post by **Burnleyareback2** » Sat Oct 06, 2018 11:03 pm

Great example of how poor the referee was today

claretspice · Post by **claretspice** » Sun Oct 07, 2018 10:30 am

Total accident, as was always to be expected of a gentle giant like Sam, and Wagner has gone down in my estimation for talking it into something it wasn't (or trying to).

Foulthrow · Post by **Foulthrow** » Sun Oct 07, 2018 11:37 am

From watching the replay on MOTD it looked totally accidental.

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Sun Oct 07, 2018 12:58 pm

The majority of elbows are accidents just like a lot of bad tackles. If a player is swinging their elbow as leverage when jumping for the ball with an opposition player near by then this is potentially reckless and they have a responsibility not to elbow the opposition. Its just like when a play flies in for a tackle 100% going for the ball a little out of control but takes out the opposition potentially risking injuring them badly.

I dont think Vokes swung it hard enough to be reckless enough for a red card but it was definitely a booking and not far off a red. To use the excuse that it wanst deliberate isnt a defence when being reckless and out of control and had one of their players jumped with a swinging elbow and smashed up the face of one of our players Dyche and a lot of posters on here would have had a very different view of the incident

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