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Re: Dyche in or out

Postby BennyD » Sun Oct 07, 2018 1:36 pm

Steve1956 wrote:The Pardew Arms sounds ok ish!


Give yourself a kick in the head.

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Re: Dyche in or out

Postby claret54 » Sun Oct 07, 2018 1:37 pm

Granny WeatherWax wrote:You mean Eddie Howe who’s team is currently 6th?

And who we beat 4-0 recently.

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Re: Dyche in or out

Postby Steve1956 » Sun Oct 07, 2018 1:38 pm

BennyD wrote:Give yourself a kick in the head.

It was tongue in cheek. Ish :lol:

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Re: Dyche in or out

Postby Steve1956 » Sun Oct 07, 2018 1:41 pm

Was the chinky chippy back open again yesterday?

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Re: Dyche in or out

Postby tim_noone » Sun Oct 07, 2018 1:44 pm

Steve1956 wrote:Was the chinky chippy back open again yesterday?

Wacist!

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Re: Dyche in or out

Postby Steve1956 » Sun Oct 07, 2018 1:46 pm

tim_noone wrote:Wacist!

Was it? Open I mean.

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Re: Dyche in or out

Postby Devils_Advocate » Sun Oct 07, 2018 1:46 pm

DAVETHEVICAR wrote:Just watching Fulham on Sky who play lovely attacking football just like some of our fans want us to play
However the usual outcome ,if the players are not top standard ,is conceding goals for fun and heavy defeats.
Prefer the Dyche way and watching players like Hazard at home to watch every week
As I type this it is now 1-4 to Arsenal

Is this newly promoted Fulham who battered us and are only 3pts behind us despite playing 3 of the big 6 whilst we've played 4 of the bottom 5?

They look far better than we did in the first Prem season under Dyche and are much more likely to stay up whilst playing miles more entertaining and attacking football then we did

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Re: Dyche in or out

Postby jrgbfc » Sun Oct 07, 2018 1:51 pm

Seem to recall plenty of folk saying be careful what you wish for with regards to Arsenal fans wanting Wenger gone. Hasn't worked out too bad so far has it?

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Re: Dyche in or out

Postby dermotdermot » Sun Oct 07, 2018 1:51 pm

Not at all nice to hear the booing yesterday. Uncalled for. One criticism; why, with seven minutes go - a good fifteen, if you count the extra time - and a substitute apiece about to come on, did theirs come straight on, while ours, Vydra, had to wait another five minutes. This, I found the most annoying part of the game.

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Re: Dyche in or out

Postby taio » Sun Oct 07, 2018 1:52 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:Is this newly promoted Fulham who battered us and are only 3pts behind us despite playing 3 of the big 6 whilst we've played 4 of the bottom 5?


Yeah same one.

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Re: Dyche in or out

Postby Steve1956 » Sun Oct 07, 2018 1:56 pm

dermotdermot wrote:Not at all nice to hear the booing yesterday. Uncalled for. One criticism; why, with seven minutes go - a good fifteen, if you count the extra time - and a substitute apiece about to come on, did theirs come straight on, while ours, Vydra, had to wait another five minutes. This, I found the most annoying part of the game.

We where under the cosh Dermot,Dyche was waiting till we got the ball in their half.
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Re: Dyche in or out

Postby taio » Sun Oct 07, 2018 1:56 pm

dermotdermot wrote:Not at all nice to hear the booing yesterday. Uncalled for. One criticism; why, with seven minutes go - a good fifteen, if you count the extra time - and a substitute apiece about to come on, did theirs come straight on, while ours, Vydra, had to wait another five minutes. This, I found the most annoying part of the game.


Because we were defending set pieces when Vydra was ready. Managers rarely make a substitution in those situations unless they are bringing someone on who is superior in the air to the player going off which obviously wasn't the case with Vydra coming on for Vokes.

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Re: Dyche in or out

Postby Devils_Advocate » Sun Oct 07, 2018 1:56 pm

taio wrote:Yeah same one.

Thought thats who he was on about. God it would have awful to see football like that 4 years ago instead of scrapping our way to relegation

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Re: Dyche in or out

Postby claretonthecoast1882 » Sun Oct 07, 2018 2:00 pm

In

There’s a long list of people the club would be better off without starting with some if they whoppers on here who whinge at everything and anything from players linked with to price of a twix before we start thinking of Dyche going

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Re: Dyche in or out

Postby BurnleyFC » Sun Oct 07, 2018 2:00 pm

At the end of the season, it’s thanks for everything from me, Sean.
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Re: Dyche in or out

Postby PutTheWheelieBinsOut » Sun Oct 07, 2018 2:09 pm

Dyche IN
I'm not in favour of Dyche going anywhere, but lets imagine we made a change, whats with waiting to the end of the season? if your going to make a change stats probably prove its better to do it mid-season than end of the season.
Garlick OUT
Where's all the money gone Mr ̶A̶s̶h̶l̶e̶y̶ Garlick ? It's time we stopped giving this guy an easy ride. Dyche has had his hands tied because of his policys.

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Re: Dyche in or out

Postby Bosscat » Sun Oct 07, 2018 2:10 pm

:lol: :lol: Lets play football like Fulham hmmmmm :lol: :lol:

1-5 at home to the Arse-nil :lol: :lol:
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Re: Dyche in or out

Postby Woodleyclaret » Sun Oct 07, 2018 2:11 pm

In but sort put the subs please Sean.Barnsey was crocked 25 mins in by Huddersfields hacking tactics and a shadow of his usual self.Should have been subbed then
Vydra was needed much earlier as Huddersfield pushed out, we offered nothing in attack
We desparatly needed a goalscoring cm.Dack scoring for fun worth signing?

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Re: Dyche in or out

Postby Wile E Coyote » Sun Oct 07, 2018 2:11 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:So you think Dyche has assembled such a poor squad we would be negatively saddling any other manager with it should Dyche leave. You are also critical of the funding our board has put into the club to take us from a standard Championship club to a Premier league club who qualified for Europe

What a barrel of laughs you are with all your negativity and criticism


your reply was that of an unevolved primate, as if you were responding to some other topic altogether. Made no sense whatsoever , big improvement on your normal stuff though, keep trying.

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Re: Dyche in or out

Postby Devils_Advocate » Sun Oct 07, 2018 2:13 pm

Bosscat wrote::lol: :lol: Lets play football like Fulham hmmmmm :lol: :lol:

1-5 at home to the Arse-nil :lol: :lol:

What score was it when we last played Arsenal and how did we get on against Fulham this season::

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Re: Dyche in or out

Postby Pearcey » Sun Oct 07, 2018 2:13 pm

In. Hopefully he’ll get backed in January.

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Re: Dyche in or out

Postby RoystonVasey » Sun Oct 07, 2018 2:37 pm

In. As above hopefully he'll get backed in January. Not so sure he will.

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Re: Dyche in or out

Postby Granny WeatherWax » Sun Oct 07, 2018 2:41 pm

Always hard to sign players in January

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Re: Dyche in or out

Postby Stayingup » Sun Oct 07, 2018 2:50 pm

Rick_Muller wrote:The progress is that Vokes and Barnes of 5 years ago have developed and earnt the right to play in our squad.


True but I think.that once we are ticking properly again, when our injured players are back, that Vydra and Wood will start up front.
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Re: Dyche in or out

Postby nyclaret » Sun Oct 07, 2018 2:51 pm

I don't think people on here realize how inept our board actually is. They got VERY VERY lucky with Dyche. I wouldn't be confident at all with their next appointment.

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Re: Dyche in or out

Postby thatdberight » Sun Oct 07, 2018 2:53 pm

RoystonVasey wrote:In. As above hopefully he'll get backed in January. Not so sure he will.

Pearcey wrote:In. Hopefully he’ll get backed in January.


And Dyche getting backed means exactly what? More of the same? More ultra-utilitarian midfielders who prefer to help their full-back over getting forward? I don't think there's any evidence that backing Dyche would unleash the inner Pep in him.

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Re: Dyche in or out

Postby BabylonClaret » Sun Oct 07, 2018 2:54 pm

MDWat wrote:He’s not beyond criticism but without Dyche this squad is Championship standard at best. Those thinking we’ll be able to play free flowing attacking football when every other side can litter their squads Witt more talent than we can is mad.


********. We have spent around 100m on this squad.

On your second point - every side?

Rubbish

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Re: Dyche in or out

Postby Pstotto » Sun Oct 07, 2018 2:55 pm

Oh, the hokey cokey
Oh, the hokey cokey
Oh the hokey cokey
In out
In out
Have another shout!
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Re: Dyche in or out

Postby Burt » Sun Oct 07, 2018 3:03 pm

In, job for life for me

Yes we need more creativity and a turnaround in form from some but please.....

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Re: Dyche in or out

Postby Spaceman » Sun Oct 07, 2018 3:14 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:In

Mainly because I live in the real world, not football manager. We've a good side, a good squad, certainly enough to stay up. I'm not sure that any other manager can come in and do the job that SD does for us.

If you want to have this sort of discussion, two things are required

1) End of the season

2) Don't let people who post absolute rubbish after every defeat or bad performance but are "too busy" to visit when we are doing well have a say

Its need to be a balanced debate with reasonable points made.


Well said . The real world. Patience . Withold judgement . Season is long. Players come back from injuries. Players develop. Signings are made.
The internet has bred a want it right now culture . Life does not fit that attitude well. If we become angry after a bad result it's not good to vent . A bad season even is not the end of the world.
I'd be happy for Sean to stay 25 years . Man utd can't replace fergie and his dynasty . That kind of magnificence takes time and tolerance of bad days.
When we were in championship I'd be happy to accept the yo yo club phase for 10 years . Up and down . Getting the money . Improving slowly in all areas . That was a dream back then . I see nothing since to support us expecting to be high performing premier league club yet. It's the long game that counts.
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Re: Dyche in or out

Postby nyclaret » Sun Oct 07, 2018 3:17 pm

Spaceman wrote:Well said . The real world. Patience . Withold judgement . Season is long. Players come back from injuries. Players develop. Signings are made.
The internet has bred a want it right now culture . Life does not fit that attitude well. If we become angry after a bad result it's not good to vent . A bad season even is not the end of the world.
I'd be happy for Sean to stay 25 years . Man utd can't replace fergie and his dynasty . That kind of magnificence takes time and tolerance of bad days.
When we were in championship I'd be happy to accept the yo yo club phase for 10 years . Up and down . Getting the money . Improving slowly in all areas . That was a dream back then . I see nothing since to support us expecting to be high performing premier league club yet. It's the long game that counts.


Good points. Would you be happy if the style of football continued during that time?

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Re: Dyche in or out

Postby BabylonClaret » Sun Oct 07, 2018 3:17 pm

On the question it surely has to be IN.

But something's knocking us off kilter at the moment. Ive no idea what - id be simply speculating. But it looks more of a mental thing to me.

I think the messages from the top have been too negative and its noe trickled down to the players. How do you manage to keep positive when your ultimate top of ths shop publicly doesnt think we can compete so plans for failure?

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Re: Dyche in or out

Postby NottsClaret » Sun Oct 07, 2018 3:20 pm

In.

Partly just because he deserves it, he's transformed our club for the better. Also, for our budget, he's probably as good as anyone out there. It's going to be a tough season, we're playing some really terrible football. But there's 30 games to go and we're 5 points above the drop zone.

It's a bit rubbish at the moment, I'm not pretending it isn't but let's show a bit of patience, stick together and see if things pick up. Not at the Etihad maybe, but over the next couple of months.
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Re: Dyche in or out

Postby dandeclaret » Sun Oct 07, 2018 3:25 pm

Dyched wrote:How can anybody say we’ll collapse without him? How can you possibly know that? Its a cope out. Like we’ll get relegated if we had beat Accy, Lincoln or Burton. Or they’d rather seeing boring Dyche football than play Howes entertaining football whilst gettimg beat 3-0.

In for now. But I seriously hope the board are doing homework on a new man.



Howe's exciting football? FFS it was total shite. Slow, supposedly patient, turgid dull stuff that was taking us towards relegation before he left.

For Dyche in out discussion, see Megson at West Brom / Bolton, Pulis at Stoke etc. That's the position Burnley are in - fans Bored of being 7th / 12th in the prem, grafting out results that are above the expected level of the clubs reputation / spend. I fully get the entertainment desire - I was one of Cotterball's biggest critics, but I'd also like to think I am a pragmatist, and realise that what is happening at present, with fighting to stay in the prem is as good as it gets from a league position perspective.
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Re: Dyche in or out

Postby BurnleyBob » Sun Oct 07, 2018 3:35 pm

By size of club Burnley should be somewhere in the bottom half of the Championship. Using league position to wage bill in the Premier League Burnley would have been relegated bottom in every season after their promotions. Burnley are massive overachievers - just take a look at the huge clubs trying to get out of the Championship. Sean Dyche's achievements at the club are on a par with those of Harry Potts and Jimmy Adamson. It is completely mad to think of him being eased out. Burnley's style of football is designed to keep a club with a relatively limited squad in the Premier League, an open expansive passing game would lead to automatic relegation.
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Re: Dyche in or out

Postby KRBFC » Sun Oct 07, 2018 3:36 pm

OUT

Watching us isn't enjoyable anymore and I'm not sure why I bother, but i'll continue to bother.
The football is the worst style of play I have ever seen played by any club, at any level. The ''we haven't got the players capable of attacking or passing the ball'' myth is utter toss too, Coyle had us playing wonderful football on 1/50th of the budget. We can't even play good football against League One and Two sides.

I think the Turf atmosphere says a lot, 18k+ gates and it's never been as quiet in the home ends.

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Re: Dyche in or out

Postby joey13 » Sun Oct 07, 2018 3:39 pm

BurnleyBob wrote:By size of club Burnley should be somewhere in the bottom half of the Championship. Using league position to wage bill in the Premier League Burnley would have been relegated bottom in every season after their promotions. Burnley are massive overachievers - just take a look at the huge clubs trying to get out of the Championship. Sean Dyche's achievements at the club are on a par with those of Harry Potts and Jimmy Adamson. It is completely mad to think of him being eased out. Burnley's style of football is designed to keep a club with a relatively limited squad in the Premier League, an open expansive passing game would lead to automatic relegation.

Getting ripped apart by the likes of Huddersfield, Fulham,Wolves and even Cardiff will lead to relegation

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Re: Dyche in or out

Postby KRBFC » Sun Oct 07, 2018 3:39 pm

MDWat wrote:In. Definitely in. He’s not beyond criticism but without Dyche this squad is Championship standard at best. Those thinking we’ll be able to play free flowing attacking football when every other side can litter their squads Witt more talent than we can is mad.

Explain why we can't play free flowing attacking football against teams we are leagues ahead of and we're 3 million times richer. Burton, Accy, Aberdeen x2, Leeds, Port Vale, Lincoln the list is endless....

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Re: Dyche in or out

Postby BennyD » Sun Oct 07, 2018 3:42 pm

PutTheWheelieBinsOut wrote:Dyche IN
I'm not in favour of Dyche going anywhere, but lets imagine we made a change, whats with waiting to the end of the season? if your going to make a change stats probably prove its better to do it mid-season than end of the season.
Garlick OUT
Where's all the money gone Mr ̶A̶s̶h̶l̶e̶y̶ Garlick ? It's time we stopped giving this guy an easy ride. Dyche has had his hands tied because of his policys.


The clubs accounts are published, so Mr Garlick cannot be doing anything with the money. Also, how do we know it’s the board that is responsible for the lack of signings? How do you know it’s not SD that is putting a realistic value on players and telling the board not to go OTT and pay too much? The answer is; you don’t, and neither do I. I, for one, think the board are doing a great job in trying to keep us in this division whilst safeguarding the future of the club. Also, how many other clubs in the Prem and top half of the Championship don’t have a mega-rich sugar daddy?
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Re: Dyche in or out

Postby Cooperclaret » Sun Oct 07, 2018 3:43 pm

The best Manager we have ever had and some of you want him out !!!!

There is a reason I don’t come on here any more and a reason not to again - this thread !
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Re: Dyche in or out

Postby KRBFC » Sun Oct 07, 2018 3:44 pm

piston broke wrote:IN. He was unlucky not to have Brady and Defour back for seasons start. Sadly it looks like Ward is done and Taylor is not ready.
We definitely need better than Vokes, Barnes and Wood to play alongside Vydra but Cork and Westwood have been very sloppy putting so much pressure on the back 4 and in general they have coped.
Last season the midfield were our first line of defence, this season they are the oppositions start point.

What do they all have in common?

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Re: Dyche in or out

Postby BennyD » Sun Oct 07, 2018 3:46 pm

KRBFC wrote:Explain why we can't play free flowing attacking football against teams we are leagues ahead of and we're 3 million times richer. Burton, Accy, Aberdeen x2, Leeds, Port Vale, Lincoln the list is endless....


It’s because we have a rigid framework to try and contain much stronger teams on a weekly basis and we take that tactic into games against ‘smaller’ clubs who utilise it against us. SD is a one dimensional manager, but he has done, and is doing, the job to keep us in this league. Pretty, free flowing football will have to wait.

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Re: Dyche in or out

Postby Claretmatt4 » Sun Oct 07, 2018 3:47 pm

You can be frustrated at the managers tactics and seeming inability to play exciting football, but still want him to stay.

Dyche In for sure.

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Re: Dyche in or out

Postby NL Claret » Sun Oct 07, 2018 3:48 pm

Is Bob Bradley available?

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Re: Dyche in or out

Postby bumba » Sun Oct 07, 2018 3:51 pm

Bottom line is do you want to spend your hard earned money watching a decent game of football an be entertained or do you want to spend your hard earned money on watching dull football that could possibly make the club more money from the premier league product?

I go for enjoyment so want to be entertained

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Re: Dyche in or out

Postby Flat Stanley » Sun Oct 07, 2018 3:51 pm

In but very bored with the football at the moment to the point I get very little enjoyment going to watch. Deserves the chance to get back to playing like the first half of last season but needs to start giving us something to support or crowds will start dropping away.

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Re: Dyche in or out

Postby RalphCoatesComb » Sun Oct 07, 2018 3:56 pm

I hope SD doesn't read this shoite !

They guy has worked wonders at this Club; he gets Burnley and he has been loyal to us and our team (sorry, his team) since day 1.

Before you string yourself up from the nearest beam, have a look at the League Table. 12th with 1 point per game. Even if we do lose at the Etihad, we will still be in a reasonable position. If we're bottom by New Year, then you can hide the knives and cut up longer pieces of rope ;)

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Re: Dyche in or out

Postby KRBFC » Sun Oct 07, 2018 3:58 pm

Bosscat wrote::lol: :lol: Lets play football like Fulham hmmmmm :lol: :lol:

1-5 at home to the Arse-nil :lol: :lol:

We got beat 5-0 the last time we played Arsenal and Fulham destroyed us not long ago.

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Re: Dyche in or out

Postby RalphCoatesComb » Sun Oct 07, 2018 4:00 pm

KRBFC wrote:I'm not sure why I bother


So, why do you?

You really are a jolly soul !

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Re: Dyche in or out

Postby Steve1956 » Sun Oct 07, 2018 4:01 pm

NL Claret wrote:Is Bob Bradley available?

:lol:


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