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Dyche in or out

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sun Oct 07, 2018 8:25 am

Cant believe how many are slagging him off on here. surely not a true reflection of what fans want?

If you could make the choice tomorrow though in or out what would you do....


Resounding in for me.

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Re: Dyche in or out

Post by DomBFC1882 » Sun Oct 07, 2018 8:29 am

In but needs to have a plan b,c,d etc

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Re: Dyche in or out

Post by Joe14 » Sun Oct 07, 2018 8:31 am

Defo IN

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Re: Dyche in or out

Post by jdrobbo » Sun Oct 07, 2018 8:31 am

IN....hopefully for many more years.

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Re: Dyche in or out

Post by jrgbfc » Sun Oct 07, 2018 8:31 am

We can't sack him, but I wouldn't be too upset if another club came in for him and he moved on. It's gone incredibly stale and I think a move could be best for both parties.

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Re: Dyche in or out

Post by Cleveleys_claret » Sun Oct 07, 2018 8:33 am

Out .... fantastic manager for us and a great era but he has run out of ideas. Boring negative football for the last 12 months. No plan B. In my opinion looks to have lost the players.
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Re: Dyche in or out

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Sun Oct 07, 2018 8:37 am

In

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Re: Dyche in or out

Post by gawthorpe_view » Sun Oct 07, 2018 8:39 am

IN!

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Re: Dyche in or out

Post by summitclaret » Sun Oct 07, 2018 8:44 am

In but whoever sanctioned not signing a right-footed winger and cm needs sorting.

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Re: Dyche in or out

Post by Granny WeatherWax » Sun Oct 07, 2018 8:44 am

In, with a sub brought on in the transfer windows.

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Re: Dyche in or out

Post by Barry_Chuckle » Sun Oct 07, 2018 8:53 am

I'd like a little entertainment, I remember the days when I'd be on the edge of my seat, the crowd buzzing and supporting the lads wearing the shirt. At present, I could doze off watching predictable, uninspiring and slow football. It most definitely isn't entertaining.

For that reason, I feel the club needs freshening up. We have a great opportunity to expand our fanbase but floating fans will not pay to come back and watch the stuff being served up, it definitely won't get children hooked.

Out for me :cry:

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Re: Dyche in or out

Post by Granny WeatherWax » Sun Oct 07, 2018 8:55 am

Barry_Chuckle wrote:I'd like a little entertainment, I remember the days when I'd be on the edge of my seat, the crowd buzzing and supporting the lads wearing the shirt. At present, I could doze off watching predictable, uninspiring and slow football. It most definitely isn't entertaining.

For that reason, I feel the club needs freshening up. We have a great opportunity to expand our fanbase but floating fans will not pay to come back and watch the stuff being served up, it definitely won't get children hooked.

Out for me :cry:
Dychenosaur hasn’t been the most attractive this season I agree, however you have to be careful what you wish for.
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Re: Dyche in or out

Post by TonbridgeClaret » Sun Oct 07, 2018 8:59 am

jrgbfc wrote:We can't sack him, but I wouldn't be too upset if another club came in for him and he moved on. It's gone incredibly stale and I think a move could be best for both parties.
Agree with this, we are in danger of (in a smaller way) doing what Arsenal did when they stuck with Wenger, brilliant for a few years, followed by years and years never quite reaching the same levels again. Dyche is probably the best manager Burnley have had in years; maybe he needs a new challenge now, he seems devoid of new ideas or a willingness to change the turgid style of play

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Re: Dyche in or out

Post by Granny WeatherWax » Sun Oct 07, 2018 9:02 am

Remember after we were spanked by Fulham he said something like that’s what we were working towards getting us to play like?
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Re: Dyche in or out

Post by The Enclosure » Sun Oct 07, 2018 9:04 am

In buthe needs to get his act together fast...

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Re: Dyche in or out

Post by MACCA » Sun Oct 07, 2018 9:07 am

Out.

I'm getting bored now , and it's my only release in life. I find myself wishing I hadn't gone on most games. There's no excitement no surprises, and hand on heart, I think if it continues I won't bother renewing. Watching Burnley is becoming a hard chore that I'm getting bored of doing every other week.
( never ever thought I'd say that )

He looks incapable of developing or changing his approach towards football.
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Re: Dyche in or out

Post by jrgbfc » Sun Oct 07, 2018 9:08 am

Granny WeatherWax wrote:Remember after we were spanked by Fulham he said something like that’s what we was working towards getting us to play like?
Pigs will fly before you see a Sean Dyche team play vibrant, free flowing attacking football.

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Re: Dyche in or out

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Sun Oct 07, 2018 9:09 am

jrgbfc wrote:Pigs will fly before you see a Sean Dyche team play vibrant, free flowing attacking football.
If you ignore that type of football we have played under him like in the first promotion season........
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Re: Dyche in or out

Post by bobinho » Sun Oct 07, 2018 9:10 am

In. ******* in. What is wrong with people?

When Dyche leaves, we WILL see another collapse like when sheepsteeth left.

Be under no illusions, our club and our players cannot survive losing Dyche.

Why would ANYONE want him to leave?

Absolutely baffling.
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Re: Dyche in or out

Post by Clarethalffull » Sun Oct 07, 2018 9:10 am

In. We are 13th in the Prem & have just picked up 7 points from 9.

For those saying out, who would you replace him with?

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Re: Dyche in or out

Post by jrgbfc » Sun Oct 07, 2018 9:12 am

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:If you ignore that type of football we have played under him like in the first promotion season........
When all the flair came from Ings, Trippier and Stanislas who Eddie Howe signed. Didn't take Dyche long to start replacing them with grafters did it?

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Re: Dyche in or out

Post by RogerBest » Sun Oct 07, 2018 9:12 am

IN

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Re: Dyche in or out

Post by Granny WeatherWax » Sun Oct 07, 2018 9:14 am

It’s not even a debate really. We would be mad to get rid of him and he doesn’t deserve it.

Other teams have got rid of managers who play dychenosaur tactics and massively regretted it.
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Re: Dyche in or out

Post by jrgbfc » Sun Oct 07, 2018 9:18 am

Clarethalffull wrote:In. We are 13th in the Prem & have just picked up 7 points from 9.

For those saying out, who would you replace him with?
How about Dean Smith at Brentford? Has done a great job there with no money to spend, has then playing good football and isn't afraid to use the European markets like Dyche is.

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Re: Dyche in or out

Post by MACCA » Sun Oct 07, 2018 9:19 am

bobinho wrote:In. ******* in. What is wrong with people?

When Dyche leaves, we WILL see another collapse like when sheepsteeth left.

Be under no illusions, our club and our players cannot survive losing Dyche.

Why would ANYONE want him to leave?

Absolutely baffling.
Not particularly wanting him to leave, however I'm getting bored.
Might just be me, and the rest have actually enjoyed the season up to date, but since the start of the season , ( the transfer window included) I've been extreamly underwhelmed.

So I'll be removing myself from watching what we are calling football as it isn't gripping me.

The whole club from top to bottom reeks of doing things on the cheap, and continually pampering over the many cracks.
It's tedious.
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Re: Dyche in or out

Post by Dyched » Sun Oct 07, 2018 9:20 am

How can anybody say we’ll collapse without him? How can you possibly know that? Its a cope out. Like we’ll get relegated if we had beat Accy, Lincoln or Burton. Or they’d rather seeing boring Dyche football than play Howes entertaining football whilst gettimg beat 3-0.

In for now. But I seriously hope the board are doing homework on a new man.

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Re: Dyche in or out

Post by MACCA » Sun Oct 07, 2018 9:21 am

jrgbfc wrote:How about Dean Smith at Brentford? Has done a great job there with no money to spend, has then playing good football and isn't afraid to use the European markets like Dyche is.

Was saying exactly the same thing in.the pub yesterday.

A manager, that is actually a coach that tries to make players play football.
Never had the riches, yet constantly sticks to the philosophy of playing the right way.
Win lose or draw they always seem to play and entertain.

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Re: Dyche in or out

Post by bumba » Sun Oct 07, 2018 9:24 am

Clarethalffull wrote:In. We are 13th in the Prem & have just picked up 7 points from 9.

For those saying out, who would you replace him with?
After the next two it'll be one point in 9 though.

Been stale an boring for too long now, definitely OUT for me. Rather have big Sam than Dyche right now

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Re: Dyche in or out

Post by bf2k » Sun Oct 07, 2018 9:25 am

What a difficult question. A few months ago I don't think you'd have got anyone of sound mind questioning his job. However, something just doesn't seem right. Players look lost and not willing to put the effort in that we've seen from a Dyche team. The recruitment policy is so out dated and leaves us with a disadvantage to start. We're not to dissimilar to Cardiff in that respect yet Dyche got us the required points playing his way with his players.

Something needs to change but I don't think it would be a change in manager. There needs to be a mentality change at the top to realise we are a premier league club. Coupled with a change in the management structure. You can see at Man Utd the CEO route is good for business but poor for the football. Others who have a director of football / sporting director/ etc seem to be more successful in this era of the premier league.

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Re: Dyche in or out

Post by Cleveleys_claret » Sun Oct 07, 2018 9:26 am

MACCA wrote:Not particularly wanting him to leave, however I'm getting bored.
Might just be me, and the rest have actually enjoyed the season up to date, but since the start of the season , ( the transfer window included) I've been extreamly underwhelmed.

So I'll be removing myself from watching what we are calling football as it isn't gripping me.

The whole club from top to bottom reeks of doing things on the cheap, and continually pampering over the many cracks.
It's tedious.
This is spot on.

I dont know though whether it is Dyche or Garlick to blame. In my opinion regardless of players nobody can tell me that just because you may be inferior to another side that you can not play football on the ground. Hoofing it all the time just invites pressure. Passing means you retain the ball and run less risk of conceding as the other side dont have the ball. For the football produced on a weekly basis the blame lies squarely at Dyches door.

Garlick i dont think likes spending money but before every transfer window he states we will break our transfer record and outspend ourselves in any other window. So he is either a liar or Dyche is too picky when wanting a player. I am veering to the latter again.

Dyche knew injured players were a while away and decided against bringing in sufficient replacements.
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Re: Dyche in or out

Post by MDWat » Sun Oct 07, 2018 9:27 am

In. Definitely in. He’s not beyond criticism but without Dyche this squad is Championship standard at best. Those thinking we’ll be able to play free flowing attacking football when every other side can litter their squads Witt more talent than we can is mad.

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Re: Dyche in or out

Post by bf2k » Sun Oct 07, 2018 9:28 am

MACCA wrote: Win lose or draw they always seem to play and entertain.
That gets you relegated if you don't have the players to do it. See Stoke

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Re: Dyche in or out

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Sun Oct 07, 2018 9:29 am

Do people seriously think we are going to sack a manager while sitting 12th in the premier league??? Maybe a few players need to take a look at their recent performances along with the manager.
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Re: Dyche in or out

Post by thatdberight » Sun Oct 07, 2018 9:31 am

In. For now. But someone needs to have a word with him and I worry we have allowed him to become like Wenger where he is running every part of the club and there's no effective challenge or counterbalance. Our football is awful and it's awful by design. He wants us fans to be unentertained because underneath that gruff footballing exterior lies the heart of an accountant more worried about the impact on the balance sheet if we get relegated.

He's also started talking garbage as well which has diminished him to me. I thought he was straight but he now talks in clichés, doublespeak and meaningless riddles that sound like something off 3-2-1. He's now just Ron Manager, a parody of himself.

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Re: Dyche in or out

Post by Top Claret » Sun Oct 07, 2018 9:33 am

In but only until the end of the season. Like others have said the football is dull and boring and I honestly think he has run his course with us.
Every clubs manager runs his course and Seans as at Burnley

It has been said that Dyche won't leave us due to him having complete control here, well if he is responsibility for our recruitment things need to change.
The lack of quality signings in the last transfer window are going to cost the club there Premier league status
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Re: Dyche in or out

Post by Granny WeatherWax » Sun Oct 07, 2018 9:34 am

MDWat wrote:In. Definitely in. He’s not beyond criticism but without Dyche this squad is Championship standard at best.
Who’s fault is that?

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Re: Dyche in or out

Post by MACCA » Sun Oct 07, 2018 9:34 am

bf2k wrote:That gets you relegated if you don't have the players to do it. See Stoke
And also playing this way may also do the same.

I'm not campaigning for his removal, I won't boo or call for his head as he's done great getting and keeping us here.
However if this is the approach, and this is the style we will continue to play, I'll not be paying to watch it anymore.
20th or 10th, league position makes no odds, I won't be renewing if the football and the boards approach on every level doesn't change.

The club is losing touch with me ( I'd say the fans but I can't talk for anyone else ) it seems on a weekly basis
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Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Sun Oct 07, 2018 9:35 am

thatdberight wrote:In. For now. But someone needs to have a word with him and I worry we have allowed him to become like Wenger where he is running every part of the club and there's no effective challenge or counterbalance. Our football is awful and it's awful by design. He wants us fans to be unentertained because underneath that gruff footballing exterior lies the heart of an accountant more worried about the impact on the balance sheet if we get relegated.

He's also started talking garbage as well which has diminished him to me. I thought he was straight but he now talks in clichés, doublespeak and meaningless riddles that sound like something off 3-2-1. He's now just Ron Manager, a parody of himself.
Ah right that explains it all then he purposely tells the players to perform like that to ‘unentertain’ the Burnley public. Thread over.

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Post by Moorite » Sun Oct 07, 2018 9:37 am

In!

But something needs to change.

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Re: Dyche in or out

Post by Billy Balfour » Sun Oct 07, 2018 9:38 am

In.

The overreaction yesterday from some on this forum was embarrassing and I'm being quite kind here. In fact, it was damn well shameful. I'm not having a go at those making constructive criticism, but some calling for our best manager in decades to be sacked, wtf? Dyche deserves better than this. We are Burnley fans, not plastics.

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Post by claretfern » Sun Oct 07, 2018 9:38 am

'In' for now, but it feels like the beginning of the end for him.

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Re: Dyche in or out

Post by Dyched » Sun Oct 07, 2018 9:39 am

bf2k wrote:That gets you relegated if you don't have the players to do it. See Stoke
That’s why there are transfer windows. We’ve had FOUr lots of PL money now under Dyche. Yet quality wise we havent improved.

Would our best 11 now seriously beat this?

Heaton
Trippier
Shackell
Duff
Mee
Arfield
Marney
Jones
Kightly
Vokes
Ings

We may have got better footballers in but playimg the same old crap system etc is what taking their quality away. JBG for instance would look 10x the player playimg for Bournemouth.

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Re: Dyche in or out

Post by Cleveleys_claret » Sun Oct 07, 2018 9:40 am

The worry for Dyche will be where next? In my opinion he is unemployable in the Premiership. No club will employ him as their fans would be in uproar. His only option would be a championship side wanting to get promotion.

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Re: Dyche in or out

Post by Barry_Chuckle » Sun Oct 07, 2018 9:40 am

Clarethalffull wrote:In. We are 13th in the Prem & have just picked up 7 points from 9.

For those saying out, who would you replace him with?
How many points can you see us picking up from the next 9?

I'd be calling the bloke at Brentford, they play lovely one touch free flowing football...... unlucky yesterday against the BIGGEST club in the world!
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Re: Dyche in or out

Post by piston broke » Sun Oct 07, 2018 9:40 am

IN. He was unlucky not to have Brady and Defour back for seasons start. Sadly it looks like Ward is done and Taylor is not ready.
We definitely need better than Vokes, Barnes and Wood to play alongside Vydra but Cork and Westwood have been very sloppy putting so much pressure on the back 4 and in general they have coped.
Last season the midfield were our first line of defence, this season they are the oppositions start point.

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Re: Dyche in or out

Post by thatdberight » Sun Oct 07, 2018 9:43 am

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:Ah right that explains it all then he purposely tells the players to perform like that to ‘unentertain’ the Burnley public. Thread over.
That's not exactly what I meant, as you well know. He sends them out to play a style of football which is designed not to be entertaining where he has 4 defenders, two holding midfielders, two midfielders whose primary job is to help the two full-backs and two big forwards to deal with balls hoofed towards them. That can't entertain.

But no, he doesn't tell Ben Mee to pass badly, Cork to fail to control a ball all day, Barnes to disappear completely, Lennon to fail to impact the game at all, Taylor to look lost. No, that's about the individuals.
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Re: Dyche in or out

Post by Quickenthetempo » Sun Oct 07, 2018 9:50 am

If I trusted the board to appoint a decent manager I would let him go and wish him all the best. Brilliant success for us but football style is dull as dishwater.

But the managers that have a plied in the past for us or the likes of Stoke recently aren't exactly inspirational


We could afford the Lyon boss or Monaco even the Turkish sides boss that played us off the park.

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Re: Dyche in or out

Post by Barry_Chuckle » Sun Oct 07, 2018 9:52 am

MDWat wrote: Those thinking we’ll be able to play free flowing attacking football when every other side can litter their squads Witt more talent than we can is mad.
So Huddersfield, a team in their second season playing in the Prem, can litter their team with more talent and play considerably more football than us?
That's exactly what I saw yesterday!

Dyche has built this team over 6 years, it's his style that is restricting our capability to play attacking football.
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Re: Dyche in or out

Post by claretgilly » Sun Oct 07, 2018 9:52 am

Cleveleys_claret wrote:Out .... fantastic manager for us and a great era but he has run out of ideas. Boring negative football for the last 12 months. No plan B. In my opinion looks to have lost the players.
“the last 12 months” :lol: :lol:

Some folk on here, wow. I didn’t enjoy the second half yesterday but get a grip of yourselves.

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Re: Dyche in or out

Post by Steve1956 » Sun Oct 07, 2018 9:54 am

:roll: This thread...oh dear,be careful what you wish for,our best manager in 50 years and some of you want him gone...unbelievable
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