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A collection of England goalkeepers

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:15 pm
by ClaretTony
This is a unique photo with four Burnley goalkeeperswho have played for England.
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Re: A collection of England goalkeepers

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:17 pm
by randomclaret2
Fantastic stuff !

Re: A collection of England goalkeepers

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:18 pm
by Vino blanco
Absolutely fantastic!!!! What a picture!!

Re: A collection of England goalkeepers

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:20 pm
by hampsteadclaret
Great photo..I guess we could possibly have got a couple more on there..

Re: A collection of England goalkeepers

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:21 pm
by RingoMcCartney
That's Lindegaard pushed further down the pecking order then!

Re: A collection of England goalkeepers

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:22 pm
by DomBFC1882
We are blessed with top goalkeepers at the moment

Re: A collection of England goalkeepers

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:22 pm
by ClaretTony
There will be an article on site later but it’s been incredible this morning.

Re: A collection of England goalkeepers

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:25 pm
by bodge
As I'm only in my twenties I don't recognise the old fella, who is it chaps ?

Re: A collection of England goalkeepers

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:26 pm
by scouseclaret
I’m in my 50s and neither do I! Clearly England goalkeepers used to be a lot smaller!

Re: A collection of England goalkeepers

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:29 pm
by theroyaldyche
who's the eld chap with em

Re: A collection of England goalkeepers

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:32 pm
by scouseclaret
Chris Woods hasn’t aged well :lol:

Re: A collection of England goalkeepers

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:33 pm
by hampsteadclaret
Must be Colin McDonald he's still alive..[87]..

Re: A collection of England goalkeepers

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:35 pm
by randomclaret2
Once voted the World's Best Goalkeeper

Re: A collection of England goalkeepers

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:35 pm
by ClaretTony
hampsteadclaret wrote:Must be Colin McDonald he's still alive..[87]..
It is Colin McDonald

Re: A collection of England goalkeepers

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:36 pm
by clansman
Colin probably the greatest of them all.

Re: A collection of England goalkeepers

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:38 pm
by Vino blanco
I'm old enough to remember Colin McDonald playing for the Clarets (World Cup 1958 he was England's keeper). I know the passing of time sometimes clouds the memory, but I think he is still the greatest goalkeeper we have ever had.

Re: A collection of England goalkeepers

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:46 pm
by FactualFrank
bodge wrote:As I'm only in my twenties I don't recognise the old fella, who is it chaps ?
Tom Heaton.

Re: A collection of England goalkeepers

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 2:14 pm
by claretblue
Colin played in the England world cup team that drew 0 - 0 against Brazil in '58!

Re: A collection of England goalkeepers

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 2:21 pm
by Royboyclaret
What a wonderful photo.

Great to see Colin looking so well.

Re: A collection of England goalkeepers

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 2:39 pm
by ClaretTony
Royboyclaret wrote:What a wonderful photo.

Great to see Colin looking so well.
And he is well

Re: A collection of England goalkeepers

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 2:58 pm
by Royboyclaret
In my youth one of the most eagerly anticipated days of the month was the one when Charles Buchan's Football Monthly dropped through the letter box. Even more so on the rare occasions that the front page featured a Burnley player.

Step forward - Colin McDonald - October 1958, resplendent in England jersey and Cap.

Re: A collection of England goalkeepers

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 3:08 pm
by moaninclaret
Fantastic line up of world class goalkeepers, what a shame we cant say the same about our outfield players so far.

Re: A collection of England goalkeepers

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 3:28 pm
by exilecanada
Royboyclaret wrote:What a wonderful photo.

Great to see Colin looking so well.


Colin does look well! He was a brilliant goalie back in the day, unfortunately he had one major flaw. If he expected a shot to go wide, he’d raise his arms, on occasion the shot would go in just inside the post. If memory serves he broke a leg playing a meaningless game for Football League vs League of Ireland which more or less ended his career.

Re: A collection of England goalkeepers

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 3:38 pm
by Foulthrow
Is Joe Hart the odd one out then? In that, although he has the most caps, he hasn't played for England whilst at Burnley?

And that he has tights on.

Re: A collection of England goalkeepers

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 3:45 pm
by Lordlucan
Being far too young for Colin McDonald, I just hit the google button. I happened upon a Lancashire Telegraph article - "vote for your keeper in the Hall of Fame". Just to show how blessed we are now, the candidates to accompany Blacklaw & McDonald were... Beresford, Jenson & Stevenson.

Re: A collection of England goalkeepers

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 4:06 pm
by Stayingup
Yes. We have more goalkeepers and Centre Forwards available than midfield players as things stand.

Re: A collection of England goalkeepers

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 4:16 pm
by TVC15
moaninclaret wrote:Fantastic line up of world class goalkeepers, what a shame we cant say the same about our outfield players so far.
Is that really necessary on this thread ?
You certainly live up to your username

Re: A collection of England goalkeepers

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 4:27 pm
by ClaretTony
TVC15 wrote:Is that really necessary on this thread ?
You certainly live up to your username
See username

Re: A collection of England goalkeepers

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 4:29 pm
by quoonbeatz
bodge wrote:As I'm only in my twenties I don't recognise the old fella, who is it chaps ?
i saw bodge the other day and he's looking very good for in his twenties.

Re: A collection of England goalkeepers

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 4:33 pm
by Royboyclaret
quoonbeatz......Martin, one of your dad's favourite Burnley players' at the time was Colin McDonald.

Re: A collection of England goalkeepers

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 4:36 pm
by Burnley1989
TVC15 wrote:Is that really necessary on this thread ?
You certainly live up to your username

a midfield of world class players would set you back circa £300-400 million, I still cant understand why our board aren't giving Sean the money

Re: A collection of England goalkeepers

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 4:40 pm
by TVC15
My dad followed Burnley everywhere at the time McDonald played....if he played in the 1958 World Cup and got the clean sheet v Brazil is that not the world cup that Pele broke on to the world scene as a young man ? Is it not that World Cup when they always show the goal Pele scored when he chests it down in the area chips to over a player and scores in the bottom corner ?

That's also the World Cup when all the home nations qualified I think....or at least Northern Ireland, Wales and England did...not sure about the sweaty socks !

Re: A collection of England goalkeepers

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 4:50 pm
by Vino blanco
Tvc15. You are right on all points about Pele and home nations.

Re: A collection of England goalkeepers

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 4:55 pm
by Buxtonclaret
Great photo!
Really is one for the scrapbook.

Colin, along with Jimmy Mac and Willie Irvine were my dad's favourites.

Re: A collection of England goalkeepers

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 5:00 pm
by ClaretTony
TVC15 wrote:My dad followed Burnley everywhere at the time McDonald played....if he played in the 1958 World Cup and got the clean sheet v Brazil is that not the world cup that Pele broke on to the world scene as a young man ? Is it not that World Cup when they always show the goal Pele scored when he chests it down in the area chips to over a player and scores in the bottom corner ?

That's also the World Cup when all the home nations qualified I think....or at least Northern Ireland, Wales and England did...not sure about the sweaty socks !
That's the World Cup and all four home nations were in out of a total of 16.

Re: A collection of England goalkeepers

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 5:03 pm
by TVC15
Also the World Cup the most ever goals were scored by one player - Fontaine with 13 I think

Not even checked Wiki....so I may be wrong

World Cups would be my mastermind specialist subject I reckon !

Re: A collection of England goalkeepers

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 5:08 pm
by mkmel
In those days not only were the keepers generslly shorter but am I right in thinking that they didn't wear gloves?

And all wore green jerseys?

Re: A collection of England goalkeepers

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 5:09 pm
by Royboyclaret
TVC15 wrote:Also the World Cup the most ever goals were scored by one player - Fontaine with 13 I think

Not even checked Wiki....so I may be wrong

World Cups would be my mastermind specialist subject I reckon !
Aye, prolific goalscorer was Juste Fontaine. Played for Reims against Burnley in 1960 in the European Cup.

Re: A collection of England goalkeepers

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 5:14 pm
by Bfc
exileclaret I remember Colin McDonald doing the arms upto one side of his body or the other, depending which side the shot was going. Very clearly remember a goal he conceded at the Beehole end v WBA. A shot from outside the box flew into to right hand side of the net, as Colin arms raised to his right as he moved across his goalmouth and watched it go in. A shot he should and could have saved.

Royboy besides McDonald( in his blue England cap, with tassels), do you know if Adamson was the only other player we had who appeared on the front cover of Charles Buchan

Re: A collection of England goalkeepers

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 5:15 pm
by claretblue
following his retirement from the game (broken leg)

I saw Colin play left winger for an Ex-Clarets team that played in Skipton mid 60's

brilliant photograph!

Re: A collection of England goalkeepers

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 5:16 pm
by ClaretTony
mkmel wrote:In those days not only were the keepers generslly shorter but am I right in thinking that they didn't wear gloves?

And all wore green jerseys?
McDonald was 6ft 2ins although you can see from the pics he's nowhere near that height now. The only time they wore gloves was when it was very wet. Always green jerseys in the Football League with shorts and socks the same colour as all the other players.

Re: A collection of England goalkeepers

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 5:20 pm
by Royboyclaret
Bfc wrote:exileclaret I remember Colin McDonald doing the arms upto one side of his body or the other, depending which side the shot was going. Very clearly remember a goal he conceded at the Beehole end v WBA. A shot from outside the box flew into to right hand side of the net, as Colin arms raised to his right as he moved across his goalmouth and watched it go in. A shot he should and could have saved.

Royboy besides McDonald( in his blue England cap, with tassels), do you know if Adamson was the only other player we had who appeared on the front cover of Charles Buchan
Brian Pilkington - July 1959.

Re: A collection of England goalkeepers

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 5:21 pm
by claret54
Vino blanco wrote:I'm old enough to remember Colin McDonald playing for the Clarets (World Cup 1958 he was England's keeper). I know the passing of time sometimes clouds the memory, but I think he is still the greatest goalkeeper we have ever had.
I agree.

Re: A collection of England goalkeepers

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 5:32 pm
by Royboyclaret
Bfc.........Also Ray Pointer - November 1960.

Re: A collection of England goalkeepers

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 5:48 pm
by Silkyskills1
Broke his leg in a challenge with Liam Tuohy. Wouldn't say it was a meaningless game as he was representing the Football League.
As for goalkeepers wearing gloves my memory is of the type of glove you see worn by snooker referees. Just a covering for the hand and definitely nothing like the ones worn nowadays.
The Charles Buchan Football Monthly always makes me smile. I had(still have) two elder brothers so let's say I learned how to 'wait my turn' when it came to reading it. Was always the same on a Saturday evening with the 'Sports' paper and that was after I had to troll down to 'Driver's on Bury Rd. in Haslingden to buy it. Wonderful memories though.

Re: A collection of England goalkeepers

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 6:01 pm
by ClaretTony
Silkyskills1 wrote:As for goalkeepers wearing gloves my memory is of the type of glove you see worn by snooker referees
He told us today that he didn't wear gloves unless it was very wet

Re: A collection of England goalkeepers

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 6:14 pm
by turfytopper
Happy birthday to Colin, he'll be 88 next week. It's great to see him appreciated by the current crop of Clarets. I believe Tom Heaton has been instrumental in ensuring Colin has been treated as he should be. His horrendous injury prevented him from a League championship medal and loads of England caps.

Brilliant article... thanks

Re: A collection of England goalkeepers

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 6:35 pm
by Silkyskills1
The photograph would make a wonderful gift for Clarets that have seen all these play. Might it become available in the club shop?

Re: A collection of England goalkeepers

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 6:46 pm
by Rick_Muller
Bloody typical, you wait 60 years for another England keeper and then three turn up at once...

Re: A collection of England goalkeepers

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 10:27 pm
by claretlife
Great photo and great piece by CT. I too am too 'young' to have seen Colin McDonald however re :by Lordlucan » Tue Oct 09, 2018 2:45 pm

Being far too young for Colin McDonald, I just hit the google button. I happened upon a Lancashire Telegraph article - "vote for your keeper in the Hall of Fame". Just to show how blessed we are now, the candidates to accompany Blacklaw & McDonald were... Beresford, Jenson & Stevenson.

I can assure you Alan Stevenson was in a different class to Beresford and Jenson. Probably the last really good keeper we had before our current England keepers