Heaton interview

jrgbfc · Post by **jrgbfc** » Sun Oct 14, 2018 2:24 pm

I get the impression just by watching us this season that our famous team spirit, and being willing to run through a brick wall for Dyche isn't quite what it was.

Cleveleys_claret · Post by **Cleveleys_claret** » Sun Oct 14, 2018 2:25 pm

I think the best thing for us would be a loan move to Championship club who are after promotion or possibly a Newcastle/ Huddesfield type club where he will get lots of chances to impress, meaning we would get better money for him next summer

paulatky · Post by **paulatky** » Sun Oct 14, 2018 2:36 pm

As I have said before I feel this Heaton situation has affected the dressing room.

CoolClaret · Post by **CoolClaret** » Sun Oct 14, 2018 4:48 pm

Hipper wrote:I thought that those that saw Heaton play at Burton were not impressed.

He looked stiff and slow, similar to how he did in the Olympiakos game.

Hart has arguably been our best player this season and kept us in the games that we've picked up points from...

Football is a harsh business, where results and reality doesn't care for sentiment;
Heaton is a legend but if he has to move on in his eyes then so be it.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sun Oct 14, 2018 4:56 pm

Tom is the most likely to leave given he is the oldest. Hart is taller and for me the one area where Pope also completely outshone Tom is in his command of the area. Not sure where Tom will go but he's been amazing for us, I don't see him getting game time with us.

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Sun Oct 14, 2018 6:04 pm

Pope completely outshines not just Tom but also Hart in his command of the area.

Tom needs to play so whilst I would be gutted for him to leave it does not look like he has much of a choice.

Hart has played very well this season but I agree that this could have upset the changing room as Heaton was probably our most senior player....Barton has said how popular Heaton was amongst all the players and the team spirit was clearly great. Whilst football can be ruthless it would also not be a big surprise to see our players impacted by Heaton being in a bad place this season.

paulatky · Post by **paulatky** » Sun Oct 14, 2018 6:24 pm

The willingness to run through brick walls mentality has not bee present in a number of games this season.

Hibsclaret · Post by **Hibsclaret** » Sun Oct 14, 2018 6:31 pm

TVC15 wrote:Pope completely outshines not just Tom but also Hart in his command of the area.

Tom needs to play so whilst I would be gutted for him to leave it does not look like he has much of a choice.

Hart has played very well this season but I agree that this could have upset the changing room as Heaton was probably our most senior player....Barton has said how popular Heaton was amongst all the players and the team spirit was clearly great. Whilst football can be ruthless it would also not be a big surprise to see our players impacted by Heaton being in a bad place this season.

So basically you agree with what I suggested earlier.....

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Sun Oct 14, 2018 6:54 pm

Hibsclaret wrote:So basically you agree with what I suggested earlier.....

Nope...as you don’t know what a metaphor is !!

Plus I have not got a clue whether I am correct or not as there is zero evidence to back up my view

Colburn_Claret · Post by **Colburn_Claret** » Sun Oct 14, 2018 7:20 pm

I'd like to keep all 3, but that obviously isn't going to work.
Hart is in the slot and doing a great job. That could change by January, but I hope not.
The one we really need to hang onto, especially because of his age, is Nick Pope.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sun Oct 14, 2018 7:51 pm

It's not great for all 3 of them, they all deserve to be number 1. It wouldn't surprise me if Dyche started with all 3 and took out the 2 strikers. Who's the better of the 3? difficult to say really, Pope would be more attractive for a bigger club due to his age, for me, Hart is the better of the 3, a truly world class goalkeeper and you can see why he's won PL trophies, 70+ England caps, several golden gloves and all those caps for Man City. This is another interview where the players dont seem happy with Dyche at all.

Steve-Harpers-perm · Post by **Steve-Harpers-perm** » Sun Oct 14, 2018 7:58 pm

KRBFC wrote:It's not great for all 3 of them, they all deserve to be number 1. It wouldn't surprise me if Dyche started with all 3 and took out the 2 strikers. Who's the better of the 3? difficult to say really, Pope would be more attractive for a bigger club due to his age, for me, Hart is the better of the 3, a truly world class goalkeeper and you can see why he's won PL trophies, 70+ England caps, several golden gloves and all those caps for Man City. This is another interview where the players dont seem happy with Dyche at all.

What are the other interviews by players saying they are unhappy with Dyche?

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sun Oct 14, 2018 7:58 pm

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:What are the other interviews by players saying they are unhappy with Dyche?

Arfield and Marney both stuck the boot in

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Sun Oct 14, 2018 8:16 pm

KRBFC wrote:Arfield and Marney both stuck the boot in

Post links of them “sticking the boot” in for us all to see.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sun Oct 14, 2018 8:19 pm

KRBFC wrote:Arfield and Marney both stuck the boot in

I'd be interested to see those interviews as well.

Shame they don't exist though.

taio · Post by **taio** » Sun Oct 14, 2018 8:28 pm

TVC15 wrote:Post links of them “sticking the boot” in for us all to see.

This article is what's being referenced I think:https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/s ... an-marney/

Laughable suggesting it's sticking the boot in. Can only assume it's a desparate attempt to stick the boot into the club and Dyche specifically.

Can't recall Arfield sticking the boot I either but let's see if any evidence emerges.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sun Oct 14, 2018 8:29 pm

Spijed wrote:I'd be interested to see those interviews as well.

Shame they don't exist though.

I posted the article on a topic on here, many agreed Arfield stuck the boot in, you can always search for it yourself.

Hibsclaret · Post by **Hibsclaret** » Sun Oct 14, 2018 8:41 pm

TVC15 wrote:Nope...as you don’t know what a metaphor is !!

Plus I have not got a clue whether I am correct or not as there is zero evidence to back up my view

Guess it is better than not knowing what day it is

Steve-Harpers-perm · Post by **Steve-Harpers-perm** » Sun Oct 14, 2018 8:43 pm

KRBFC wrote:I posted the article on a topic on here, many agreed Arfield stuck the boot in, you can always search for it yourself.

Will just wait for you to post it again then we can read how they stick the boot into Dyche. Looking forward to it.

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Sun Oct 14, 2018 8:49 pm

KRBFC wrote:I posted the article on a topic on here, many agreed Arfield stuck the boot in, you can always search for it yourself.

Even better
Post the article and post the topic link then we can see whether you are making stuff up twice

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Sun Oct 14, 2018 8:50 pm

Tom certsinly looks on his way, but he'll go with our thanks and best wishes.

Sadly he's not fully recovered from his injury, maybe down to lack of games and age, but we have seen just how big, strong l, and commanding keepers help us with our style of defending.

Pope and Hart look a better fit for us over Heaton, and both have age on their side.

Lets get the conveyor belt back in action, and get another up and coming number 3 keeper ready to be Mercerised.

mdd2 · Post by **mdd2** » Sun Oct 14, 2018 8:51 pm

If Pope is fit come January then get either Pope or Heaton out on loan for 6 months then see how the land lies

Steve-Harpers-perm · Post by **Steve-Harpers-perm** » Sun Oct 14, 2018 8:53 pm

Taking a long time to locate these articles.

ClaretAL · Post by **ClaretAL** » Sun Oct 14, 2018 8:54 pm

I really do feel for Tom, and I dont care what anyone says, the only keeper i here barking at his defence is Tom, and I feel that is why our defence is currently below the standard they used to be.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sun Oct 14, 2018 9:00 pm

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:Taking a long time to locate these articles.

He's writing them as we speak....

SGr · Post by **SGr** » Sun Oct 14, 2018 9:27 pm

Cleveleys_claret wrote:Can see him going Spurs as a No2 that will still get decent gametime.

Palace are probably his best shot at number 1 spot in the Prem. No joke Spurs would probably rather keep Vorm than pay us money to sign him in January

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sun Oct 14, 2018 11:19 pm

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:Taking a long time to locate these articles.

Are you all incapable of pulling up the article yourself? I've seen it already, go find it yourself, I believe it was Arfield's first interview with Rangers, can't be that difficult to find.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sun Oct 14, 2018 11:20 pm

TVC15 wrote:Even better
Post the article and post the topic link then we can see whether you are making stuff up twice

Are you all incapable of pulling up the article yourself? I've seen it already, go find it yourself, I believe it was Arfield's first interview with Rangers, can't be that difficult to find.

GodIsADeeJay81 · Post by **GodIsADeeJay81** » Mon Oct 15, 2018 12:25 am

KRBFC wrote:I posted the article on a topic on here, many agreed Arfield stuck the boot in, you can always search for it yourself.

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Anything else I've read, or watched since has no hint of anyone putting the boot in.

Of course people interpret things in different ways, but he appears to have enjoyed his time at the club.

GodIsADeeJay81 · Post by **GodIsADeeJay81** » Mon Oct 15, 2018 12:29 am

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:Taking a long time to locate these articles.

https://rangers.co.uk/news/features/let ... t-arfield/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

It's on Rangers site.
If you can find the part where he's sticking the boot in, then you're a better man then me.

fidelcastro · Post by **fidelcastro** » Mon Oct 15, 2018 12:56 am

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:https://rangers.co.uk/news/features/let ... t-arfield/

It's on Rangers site.
If you can find the part where he's sticking the boot in, then you're a better man then me.

Just KRBFC posting utter poppycock as usual.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Mon Oct 15, 2018 1:23 am

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:https://rangers.co.uk/news/features/let ... t-arfield/

It's on Rangers site.
If you can find the part where he's sticking the boot in, then you're a better man then me.

That's not the one I was talking about, it's the one where he mentions training under Gerrard and takes shots at Dyche.

Cirrus_Minor · Post by **Cirrus_Minor** » Mon Oct 15, 2018 7:39 am

It's been an incredible situation to have 3 current England goalkeepers in the squad. But I expect that when Pope is back and fully fit i expect he will be back as our first goalkeeper. I doubt either Heaton or Hart will want to be the back up or odd man out so one of them leaving is inevitable.

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Mon Oct 15, 2018 7:41 am

KRBFC wrote:That's not the one I was talking about, it's the one where he mentions training under Gerrard and takes shots at Dyche.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.hitc ... -learning/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Oh this one - yep really sticking the boot in. Disgrace.
I fully understand your outrage now.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Mon Oct 15, 2018 7:55 am

TVC15 wrote:https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.hitc ... -learning/

Oh this one - yep really sticking the boot in. Disgrace.
I fully understand your outrage now.

''I was surprised by it having been at Burnley, this training has been eye opening to me to come straight in and the boys have just taken it head on. It has been intensive and it is by far the hardest pre-season I have done, especially the first week."

Steve-Harpers-perm · Post by **Steve-Harpers-perm** » Mon Oct 15, 2018 8:07 am

KRBFC wrote:''I was surprised by it having been at Burnley, this training has been eye opening to me to come straight in and the boys have just taken it head on. It has been intensive and it is by far the hardest pre-season I have done, especially the first week."

My goodness talk about sticking the boot in!!!?

taio · Post by **taio** » Mon Oct 15, 2018 8:09 am

KRBFC wrote:''I was surprised by it having been at Burnley, this training has been eye opening to me to come straight in and the boys have just taken it head on. It has been intensive and it is by far the hardest pre-season I have done, especially the first week."

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Mon Oct 15, 2018 8:13 am

KRBFC wrote:''I was surprised by it having been at Burnley, this training has been eye opening to me to come straight in and the boys have just taken it head on. It has been intensive and it is by far the hardest pre-season I have done, especially the first week."

New manager comes in at Rangers with a squad of league one equivalent players and asks them to do loads of running - that’s a big surprise eh ?
If you read between the lines Arfield is having a massive dig at Dyche....I have rarely seen a tirade of abuse from an ex player like this - but again you have to read between the lines (oh and you also need to be a complete d-ick)

Steve-Harpers-perm · Post by **Steve-Harpers-perm** » Mon Oct 15, 2018 8:25 am

TVC15 wrote:New manager comes in at Rangers with a squad of league one equivalent players and asks them to do loads of running - that’s a big surprise eh ?
If you read between the lines Arfield is having a massive dig at Dyche....I have rarely seen a tirade of abuse from an ex player like this - but again you have to read between the lines (oh and you also need to be a complete d-ick)

It really is sickening how an ex player can speak like this. I’ll be surprised if Dyche hasn’t looked into taking legal action such is the vicious tone of it.

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Mon Oct 15, 2018 8:33 am

Wait till Scotty’s book comes out “Hating Dyche”
(Forward by KRBFC)

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Mon Oct 15, 2018 8:35 am

It’s difficult to see how we can continue as a football club after those comments.

Steve-Harpers-perm · Post by **Steve-Harpers-perm** » Mon Oct 15, 2018 8:45 am

Bordeauxclaret wrote:It’s difficult to see how we can continue as a football club after those comments.

You’d think the board will be looking into it (in KRBFC’s world that is).

Turftalkers mentor · Post by **Turftalkers mentor** » Mon Oct 15, 2018 8:46 am

Anybody with any idea about the game with no disrespect to the other two can see Tom Heaton is by far the most complete keeper we have .

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Mon Oct 15, 2018 9:06 am

Turftalkers mentor wrote:Anybody with any idea about the game with no disrespect to the other two can see Tom Heaton is by far the most complete keeper we have .

Tim, normally I'd agree with you. You were outstanding, however In your appearances do far this season, along with Popeys excellent performances last season means you are a number 3, number 2 at best.

You've had a few games to convince the gaffer and sadly haven't taken them.
It's been seen just what a commanding goal keeper can do to the backline, so once Popey returns it'll be him and Hart fighting to be number 1, and I hope Popey gets the nod.

All the best in your new adventures, another instance where both club and player have complimented each other excellently with incredible gains and with equal success for both.

GodIsADeeJay81 · Post by **GodIsADeeJay81** » Mon Oct 15, 2018 12:17 pm

KRBFC wrote:''I was surprised by it having been at Burnley, this training has been eye opening to me to come straight in and the boys have just taken it head on. It has been intensive and it is by far the hardest pre-season I have done, especially the first week."

One of us clearly hasn't got our brain in gear, but please point out the dig at Dyche...

Steve-Harpers-perm · Post by **Steve-Harpers-perm** » Mon Oct 15, 2018 12:36 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:One of us clearly hasn't got our brain in gear, but please point out the dig at Dyche...

If you keep reading it over and over again in a darkened room with posters of Dyche all over the wall which have big red x’s on his face you’ll be able to pick out the digs.

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Mon Oct 15, 2018 12:40 pm

I think we should seriously consider asking the Premier League to postpone our game on Saturday now these comments have come to light.

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Mon Oct 15, 2018 12:41 pm

If you play the interview backwards on an old gramophone it very clearly says “Sean Dyche is evil...kill him”

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Mon Oct 15, 2018 12:45 pm

Ha Ha Ha, what a melonhead.

Silkyskills1 · Post by **Silkyskills1** » Mon Oct 15, 2018 2:21 pm

KRBFC wrote:That's not the one I was talking about, it's the one where he mentions training under Gerrard and takes shots at Dyche.

Not as many shots as you take. A thread discussing the merits/ futures of three highly skilful goalkeepers has once more degenerated into a 'let's bash Dyche' farce with you taking the lead role once again. You are becoming a laughing stock with your poorly thought out contributions and if only to avoid further humiliation I would suggest you leave this particular thread alone. You clearly have an agenda regarding Sean Dyche, you despise him about as much as any manager we've had in my time as a supporter of Burnley. If he's not your 'cup of tea' then that's fine but something more constructive or better thought out might lend itself to other posters engaging with you in a more harmonious manner. Unless,of course, that's not why you post on here.