Malcontentment in the squad?

boyyanno · Post by **boyyanno** » Mon Oct 15, 2018 6:22 pm

Are we seeing the side effects of not having a happy camp at the moment?

In Dyches whole tenure the full squad has seemed united, there has been very little to no discontent and seemingly that unity has taken us this far.

The last few months have seemed to be the first time that things didn't look so rosy, Walters, Heaton and now Hendrick have all seemingly voiced discontent. Even if the later are more "we want to play" aside from anything else: It's just not how we have normally gone about our business and in Dyche time here most things are dealt with behind the scenes. Even Dyche himself could be shown as to be voicing some discontent over the transfer window. The question is:

A: Do you think this has impacted us?
B: How do you counter it?
C: Is there any discontent? Is it natural for these challenges?

conyoviejo · Post by **conyoviejo** » Mon Oct 15, 2018 6:26 pm

A..No.
B..My first answer covers this
C..No

jrgbfc · Post by **jrgbfc** » Mon Oct 15, 2018 6:29 pm

Maybe, to me this season there's something that just doesn't seem right. For the first time ever under Dyche you could accuse us of rolling over in certain games, the Wolves game in particular springs to mind.

evensteadiereddie · Post by **evensteadiereddie** » Mon Oct 15, 2018 6:33 pm

We had a disturbing start to the season with the EL chaos, we've had a number of significant injuries and we're in a tough league - and that is about it.

Dyched · Post by **Dyched** » Mon Oct 15, 2018 6:33 pm

This season feels like a new era at the club.

We’ve seen Arsenals invincibles get brokern up (Viera, Henry etc)
Utds side brokern since Fergie left (Giggs, Rooney, Ferdinand etc)
Chelseas old guard (Drogba, Terry, Cech, Lampard)

Theres not many left from the first promotion season now. It’s a totally different club to when Arfield, Marney, Heaton, Mee all arrived

TheFamilyCat · Post by **TheFamilyCat** » Mon Oct 15, 2018 6:37 pm

Of course there's discontent in the squad.

Heaton's sulking because we bought Hart.
The rest of the squad are sulking on Heaton's behalf.
Tarks and Mee hate each other.
Mee hates Dyche because he didn't play in the Europa League.
So does Lowton.
Ward's legs have gone.
Defour will never play again.
Vokes is sulking because we touted him to every club in the country over the summer.

Have I missed any?

boyyanno · Post by **boyyanno** » Mon Oct 15, 2018 6:43 pm

Everyone is a touchy bunch on here at the moment.

I haven't stated my opinion on the matter, I've asked some questions to spark debate, it's sort of the purpose that these internet forum thingys were created for.

Some people will think differently to others, are we not allowed to discuss it now?

claretblue · Post by **claretblue** » Mon Oct 15, 2018 6:45 pm

thought it was someone promoted from the under 23's!

gawthorpe_view · Post by **gawthorpe_view** » Mon Oct 15, 2018 6:48 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:Of course there's discontent in the squad.

Heaton's sulking because we bought Hart.
The rest of the squad are sulking on Heaton's behalf.
Tarks and Mee hate each other.
Mee hates Dyche because he didn't play in the Europa League.
So does Lowton.
Ward's legs have gone.
Defour will never play again.
Vokes is sulking because we touted him to every club in the country over the summer.

Have I missed any?

Ben Mee played in the Europa League.

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Mon Oct 15, 2018 6:51 pm

gawthorpe_view wrote:Ben Mee played in the Europa League.

So why does he hate Dyche?

piston broke · Post by **piston broke** » Mon Oct 15, 2018 6:55 pm

The problem of having a larger squad. They can’t all play so cliques form.
I have know idea if there is any truth behind the rumours but didn’t Scotty make remarks on leaving?
SD will sort it.

gawthorpe_view · Post by **gawthorpe_view** » Mon Oct 15, 2018 6:57 pm

Rileybobs wrote:So why does he hate Dyche?

Does he?

GodIsADeeJay81 · Post by **GodIsADeeJay81** » Mon Oct 15, 2018 6:59 pm

Depends on which specs you're wearing.

Dyche out - see everything in a negative light.

Dyche in - everything positive.

Normal - don't fret about it that much

GodIsADeeJay81 · Post by **GodIsADeeJay81** » Mon Oct 15, 2018 6:59 pm

piston broke wrote:The problem of having a larger squad. They can’t all play so cliques form.
I have know idea if there is any truth behind the rumours but didn’t Scotty make remarks on leaving?
SD will sort it.

Krbfc is saying Arfield has made comments, but no one has seen theses comments, so we think they're made up.

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Mon Oct 15, 2018 7:03 pm

What has Hendrick said?

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Mon Oct 15, 2018 7:04 pm

Tall Paul wrote:What has Hendrick said?

He doesn’t have to say anything. You can see the malcontentment in his eyes.

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Mon Oct 15, 2018 7:07 pm

Rileybobs wrote:He doesn’t have to say anything. You can see the malcontentment in his eyes.

I'm sure any malcontentment will be Hendrick's fault anyway.

Woodleyclaret · Post by **Woodleyclaret** » Mon Oct 15, 2018 7:07 pm

His Irish eyes always seem to be shining so all is well

boyyanno · Post by **boyyanno** » Mon Oct 15, 2018 7:10 pm

Tall Paul wrote:What has Hendrick said?

https://www.burnleyexpress.net/sport/fo ... -1-9396780" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

SussexDon1inIreland · Post by **SussexDon1inIreland** » Mon Oct 15, 2018 7:26 pm

Kevin Long just signed another extension but said he was unhappy if he wasn't playing
Of course players not in the playing group are not going to be happy! But it doesn't mean any more than that.

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fidelcastro · Post by **fidelcastro** » Mon Oct 15, 2018 7:35 pm

SussexDon1inIreland wrote:Kevin Long just signed another extension but said he was unhappy if he wasn't playing
Of course players not in the playing group are not going to be happy! But it doesn't mean any more than that.

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Indeed. I'd be a lot more concerned if we had any players who didn't care whether they were in the team or not... and even more so, any that said they were glad they weren't playing!

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AlargeClaret · Post by **AlargeClaret** » Mon Oct 15, 2018 8:11 pm

I’m
Pretty sure it was that KRBFC that came out with the Scotty “ rumours” or similar ? Though he’s a tool of the highest order and about as much chance he’s privy to the inner circle as Mr.T has of being the next PM.

Scotty did make some remark after moving to Rangers about how tough the pre season was or words to that effect . Most “ player leavings” have a slight gripe factor and it was nowt more

I think the squad is fine we’re just a bit crap without our best players in a hellishly strong league which has again stepped up quality

AlargeClaret · Post by **AlargeClaret** » Mon Oct 15, 2018 8:13 pm

Hendrick and Walters can surely be taken with a pinch of salt both of em bang lucky to be anywhere near the Orem ( Walters age and Hendrick ability )

TheFamilyCat · Post by **TheFamilyCat** » Mon Oct 15, 2018 8:45 pm

gawthorpe_view wrote:Ben Mee played in the Europa League.

No, he can't have done. Ben Mee gave am everything to qualify for Europe then Dyche didn't pick him so now he's not trying. Only Dyche hasn't noticed this so is still making him captain.

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Mon Oct 15, 2018 9:03 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:No, he can't have done. Ben Mee gave am everything to qualify for Europe then Dyche didn't pick him so now he's not trying. Only Dyche hasn't noticed this so is still making him captain.

I'm sure he played against Aberdeen.

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Mon Oct 15, 2018 9:04 pm

So still no one answered why the players aren’t trying, apart Tarks, Hart and Joey

TheFamilyCat · Post by **TheFamilyCat** » Mon Oct 15, 2018 9:08 pm

Nope, can't have done. Not possible.

gawthorpe_view · Post by **gawthorpe_view** » Mon Oct 15, 2018 9:08 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:No, he can't have done. Ben Mee gave am everything to qualify for Europe then Dyche didn't pick him so now he's not trying. Only Dyche hasn't noticed this so is still making him captain.

http://www.uptheclarets.com/201819-burnley-fc-stats" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

TheFamilyCat · Post by **TheFamilyCat** » Mon Oct 15, 2018 9:10 pm

Fake news

TheFamilyCat · Post by **TheFamilyCat** » Mon Oct 15, 2018 9:13 pm

joey13 wrote:So still no one answered why the players aren’t trying, apart Tarks, Hart and Joey

See post #6. Nobody likes Dyche. Except those who don't like Mee. Have you not been reading this board for the last five months?

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Mon Oct 15, 2018 9:17 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:See post #6. Nobody likes Dyche. Except those who don't like Mee. Have you not been reading this board for the last five months?

I try not too

Steve-Harpers-perm · Post by **Steve-Harpers-perm** » Mon Oct 15, 2018 9:30 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:No, he can't have done. Ben Mee gave am everything to qualify for Europe then Dyche didn't pick him so now he's not trying. Only Dyche hasn't noticed this so is still making him captain.

I heard Mee didn’t want to sign a contract but Dyche said if you don’t I’ll knock you out so Mee did but now he’s really unhappy he didn’t just say no. Pretty sure there’s an article somewhere with it all in.

fidelcastro · Post by **fidelcastro** » Mon Oct 15, 2018 9:36 pm

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:I heard Mee didn’t want to sign a contract but Dyche said if you don’t I’ll knock you out so Mee did but now he’s really unhappy he didn’t just say no. Pretty sure there’s an article somewhere with it all in.

There is. KRBFC posted it somewhere.

fidelcastro · Post by **fidelcastro** » Mon Oct 15, 2018 9:37 pm

joey13 wrote:I try not too

Except when we lose, then you're drawn to here like a fly around a dog turd.

Colburn_Claret · Post by **Colburn_Claret** » Mon Oct 15, 2018 9:41 pm

You wouldn't want players to be happy not playing.
It has to be hard for Heats, but that doesn't make him a malcontent or trouble maker.
Under Dyche we've had a fairly settled first XI. That changed this season due to Europe, so everyone got a bite, it's easier to sit it out when results are going your way, but difficult to follow when the team is performing so poorly. I feel for Hendrick most of all, at least Heats can see why Hart has kept his spot, Jeff must be scratching his head. That said , I've never heard of him moaning about his lot.

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Mon Oct 15, 2018 9:45 pm

fidelcastro wrote:Except when we lose, then you're drawn to here like a fly around a dog turd.

You’d know more about that being a troll

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Mon Oct 15, 2018 9:46 pm

joey13 wrote:So still no one answered why the players aren’t trying, apart Tarks, Hart and Joey

Maybe nobody has answered because it’s not true ?
You seem to mixing up “trying” and not playing well.

Btw who is this Joey bloke ?

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Mon Oct 15, 2018 9:48 pm

TVC15 wrote:Maybe nobody has answered because it’s not true ?
You seem to mixing up “trying” and not playing well.

Btw who is this Joey bloke ?

I can see when players aren’t trying, pity you can’t
Call yourself a fan and you don’t know who Joey is

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Mon Oct 15, 2018 9:50 pm

Enlighten me please who is he ?

Please don’t say it’s our Icelandic winger as you will look even thicker than you actually are

Is it Joey Barton ? He left a while ago.

Archie Claret · Post by **Archie Claret** » Mon Oct 15, 2018 9:51 pm

This Malcolm Tentman, can he play midfield?

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Mon Oct 15, 2018 9:51 pm

TVC15 wrote:Maybe nobody has answered because it’s not true ?
You seem to mixing up “trying” and not playing well.

Btw who is this Joey bloke ?

Icelandic winger who plays for us. He's one of our best players so would have thought you'd have heard of him

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Mon Oct 15, 2018 9:52 pm

TVC15 wrote:Enlighten me please who is he ?

Please don’t say it’s our Icelandic winger as you will look even thicker than you actually are

Is it Joey Barton ? He left a while ago.

It’s his nickname you ignorant knob

RocketLawnChair · Post by **RocketLawnChair** » Mon Oct 15, 2018 9:53 pm

Just my opinion but I do think something isn’t quite right. I’ve always thought under Dyche that even when we haven’t played particularly well the players always seemed to be in it together. For whatever reason so far this season it’s doesnt look as close knit a group as usual.

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Mon Oct 15, 2018 9:53 pm

**** me DA - please don’t look as stupid as Joey.

Joey or Joseph or Joe not his first name - in Icelandic or English.

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Mon Oct 15, 2018 9:56 pm

joey13 wrote:It’s his nickname you ignorant knob

Ok twa-tty....who says that’s his nickname ?
We used to have an Icelandic midfielder called Joey.
Our current one is Jóhann which is John.
Who calls him Joey ?

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Mon Oct 15, 2018 9:57 pm

TVC15 wrote:**** me DA - please don’t look as stupid as Joey.

Joey or Joseph or Joe not his first name - in Icelandic or English.

Try getting your facts right before making stupid comments

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Mon Oct 15, 2018 9:59 pm

TVC15 wrote:**** me DA - please don’t look as stupid as Joey.

Joey or Joseph or Joe not his first name - in Icelandic or English.

Your the idiot being so pedantic just cos youre having a spat on here. People refer to him as Joey or JBG and I dont think ive heard any fans call him by his first name.

Its like wallys who get excited if someone puts an S on Wood or Hendrick on a messageboard get a life

fidelcastro · Post by **fidelcastro** » Mon Oct 15, 2018 10:01 pm

TVC15 wrote:Ok twa-tty....who says that’s his nickname ?
We used to have an Icelandic midfielder called Joey.
Our current one is Jóhann which is John.
Who calls him Joey ?

I've never heard anyone call him Joey, but the poster calling himself Joey also claims our players aren't trying, so that might explain it.

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Mon Oct 15, 2018 10:02 pm

joey13 wrote:Try getting your facts right before making stupid comments

Who calls him Joey - it’s not his name or his nickname.
That’s your name - does anyone call you John ?
T-it

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Mon Oct 15, 2018 10:05 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:Your the idiot being so pedantic just cos youre having a spat on here. People refer to him as Joey or JBG and I dont think ive heard any fans call him by his first name.

Its like wallys who get excited if someone puts an S on Wood or Hendrick on a messageboard get a life

It’s nothing like that - don’t stick your oar in when you are as wrong as that d-ick.