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Our away attendances this season

Post by Leisure » Tue Oct 16, 2018 5:09 pm

Following the panic that some people had when the club announced that they'd only taken 1200 tickets for West Ham, I've just had a look at our followings for our first 4 away PL games this season -

Southampton 1242
Fulham 1509
Wolves 1245
Cardiff 719

Will be interesting to see if we sell out for Man City and what allocation we take for Leicester. Maybe the novelty of the PL is wearing off for some of our fans!

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Re: Our away attendances this season

Post by Quickenthetempo » Tue Oct 16, 2018 5:11 pm

Not the best games to judge on especially all being on Sundays but the novelty will wear off unless something exciting happens.

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Re: Our away attendances this season

Post by claretcarrot93 » Tue Oct 16, 2018 5:13 pm

Leisure wrote:Following the panic that some people had when the club announced that they'd only taken 1200 tickets for West Ham, I've just had a look at our followings for our first 4 away PL games this season -

Southampton 1242
Fulham 1509
Wolves 1245
Cardiff 719

Will be interesting to see if we sell out for Man City and what allocation we take for Leicester. Maybe the novelty of the PL is wearing off for some of our fans!
I reckon so. The novelty of watching the big teams is wearing off plus your team defending and seeing none of the ball away from home probably adds to that.

Sad thing is we had something new and exciting in the Europa league which we decided to throw away to concentrate on the mundane prem which we have now seen before. Shame really.
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Re: Our away attendances this season

Post by Devils_Advocate » Tue Oct 16, 2018 5:14 pm

I know we have earned the right to be here on merit but you can see why people would rather have the well supported big clubs like Leeds, Derby and Villa in the Premier league over the poorly supported little clubs like us, Bournemouth and Huddersfield

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Re: Our away attendances this season

Post by Spijed » Tue Oct 16, 2018 5:34 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:I know we have earned the right to be here on merit but you can see why people would rather have the well supported big clubs like Leeds, Derby and Villa in the Premier league over the poorly supported little clubs like us, Bournemouth and Huddersfield
Would be interesting to see how many clubs took the full allocation in the CFS stand last season.

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Re: Our away attendances this season

Post by Devils_Advocate » Tue Oct 16, 2018 5:42 pm

Spijed wrote:Would be interesting to see how many clubs took the full allocation in the CFS stand last season.
I agree not only are we a poorly supported club we are also situated in a sh*t hole of a town with poor transport links and out of the way for most clubs. We must be one of the most unattractive away days Prem League fans will ever have to contend with

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Re: Our away attendances this season

Post by randomclaret2 » Tue Oct 16, 2018 5:57 pm

Out of the way for most clubs ? United City Liverpool Everton and Huddersfield are all within an hour. As for the area being run down....have a look round City's surrounds on Saturday. The fact that our away games have been on a Sunday at the other end of the country mainly explains things.
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Re: Our away attendances this season

Post by randomclaret2 » Tue Oct 16, 2018 5:58 pm

"Devils Advocate " indeed...
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Re: Our away attendances this season

Post by Spijed » Tue Oct 16, 2018 6:04 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:I agree not only are we a poorly supported club we are also situated in a sh*t hole of a town with poor transport links and out of the way for most clubs. We must be one of the most unattractive away days Prem League fans will ever have to contend with
I hardly think the area around Anfield, Spurs, Man U. etc is anymore attractive.

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Re: Our away attendances this season

Post by Devils_Advocate » Tue Oct 16, 2018 6:09 pm

Spijed wrote:I hardly think the area around Anfield, Spurs, Man U. etc is anymore attractive.
Liverpool, London and Manchester are far easier places to get too and have much more going on in their city than our crappy little town. If you think most fans would rather come to Burnley than go to the three teams you mentioned then keep taking those drugs

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Re: Our away attendances this season

Post by NottsClaret » Tue Oct 16, 2018 6:13 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:Liverpool, London and Manchester are far easier places to get too and have much more going on in their city than our crappy little town. If you think most fans would rather come to Burnley than go to the three teams you mentioned then keep taking those drugs
We regularly chat to away fans in the pub pre-match, they love coming to Burnley. Cheap beer, a proper ground, a welcome change from the usual big stadium guff. You should get out and talk to people more, instead of sniping on here all the time.
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Re: Our away attendances this season

Post by Quickenthetempo » Tue Oct 16, 2018 6:18 pm

NottsClaret wrote:We regularly chat to away fans in the pub pre-match, they love coming to Burnley. Cheap beer, a proper ground, a welcome change from the usual big stadium guff. You should get out and talk to people more, instead of sniping on here all the time.
But that wouldn’t let him post in his devil's advocate style.

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Re: Our away attendances this season

Post by Devils_Advocate » Tue Oct 16, 2018 6:25 pm

NottsClaret wrote:We regularly chat to away fans in the pub pre-match, they love coming to Burnley. Cheap beer, a proper ground, a welcome change from the usual big stadium guff. You should get out and talk to people more, instead of sniping on here all the time.
Im sure some do love it I mean it takes allsorts. Id guess that if you looked at most teams away followings their trip to Burnley will be in the bottom few for how many fans they took which indicates more people prefer the usual big stadium guff rather than our dump

As for sniping im just voicing an opinion and seems it was you who took a snipe at me so maybe follow your own advive

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Re: Our away attendances this season

Post by Longside4evr » Tue Oct 16, 2018 6:51 pm

There's a few reasons why our attendances have been poor

Southampton 1242 Sunday in the middle of europe long trip first away game of the season
Fulham 1509 4 o'clock sunday kick off never hardly get a result 3 days after a european game
Wolves 1245 live on sky and on a sunday one point gained from 5 fixtures
Cardiff 719 4 o'clock live on sky
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Re: Our away attendances this season

Post by Dyched » Tue Oct 16, 2018 7:03 pm

What DA is saying is Burnley is **** after the game. The stadium is cool for visiting fans. But fans who enjoy the before and after the football drinks the town is generally a pain to get out of. Train/Bus options aren't great and the drinking spots shite too. For some fans is more than 90 minutes and dint just want to be coached in/out straight away

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Re: Our away attendances this season

Post by JimMcDonald » Tue Oct 16, 2018 7:08 pm

Its simple the Premierleague novelty has worn off. We have played all the biggest teams away numerous times now. There is no away day that excites me anymore other than B@stard Rovers. Its the norm for us now they arent as big of games as they would of been in our first PL season.
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Re: Our away attendances this season

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Tue Oct 16, 2018 7:17 pm

Longside4evr wrote:There's a few reasons why our attendances have been poor

Southampton 1242 Sunday in the middle of europe long trip first away game of the season
Fulham 1509 4 o'clock sunday kick off never hardly get a result 3 days after a european game
Wolves 1245 live on sky and on a sunday one point gained from 5 fixtures
Cardiff 719 4 o'clock live on sky
Don’t forget Euston was shut the weekend of the Fulham game, plus it was still up in the air which day it was going to be played until about ten days before.

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Re: Our away attendances this season

Post by Claretforever » Tue Oct 16, 2018 7:19 pm

Longside4evr wrote:There's a few reasons why our attendances have been poor

Southampton 1242 Sunday in the middle of europe long trip first away game of the season
Fulham 1509 4 o'clock sunday kick off never hardly get a result 3 days after a european game
Wolves 1245 live on sky and on a sunday one point gained from 5 fixtures
Cardiff 719 4 o'clock live on sky
Cardiff away, I believe, was only the 2nd time in our Premier League seasons (80 games) that we have taken less than 1,000 away. The other game being Swansea last season.

The Cardiff game also coincided with the final day of the Ryder Cup, which had an effect. I’m sure when we have a decent run of Saturday away games things will pick up.

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Re: Our away attendances this season

Post by thelaughingclaret » Tue Oct 16, 2018 7:33 pm

Claretforever wrote:Cardiff away, I believe, was only the 2nd time in our Premier League seasons (80 games) that we have taken less than 1,000 away. The other game being Swansea last season.

The Cardiff game also coincided with the final day of the Ryder Cup, which had an effect. I’m sure when we have a decent run of Saturday away games things will pick up.
Being on sky also had a massive effect. Plus the way we are currently playing doesn't help matters.

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Re: Our away attendances this season

Post by AlargeClaret » Tue Oct 16, 2018 8:28 pm

The figures are hardly a true reflection , taking into account bloody long journeys on a Sunday and the Cardiff game Sunday afternoon Sky match those numbers ain’t too shabby . Thought we’d take 1500+ to WH though so surprised only 1200 ticks , though ground a bit shoite.
Surely we’ve sold city out??

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Re: Our away attendances this season

Post by Leisure » Tue Oct 16, 2018 9:11 pm

AlargeClaret wrote: Surely we’ve sold city out??
Nope.

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Re: Our away attendances this season

Post by Grumps » Tue Oct 16, 2018 9:29 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:Liverpool, London and Manchester are far easier places to get too and have much more going on in their city than our crappy little town. If you think most fans would rather come to Burnley than go to the three teams you mentioned then keep taking those drugs
Try getting to Manchester on Saturday, not easy

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Re: Our away attendances this season

Post by Devils_Advocate » Tue Oct 16, 2018 9:31 pm

Grumps wrote:Try getting to Manchester on Saturday, not easy
From where cos I bet its a damn site easier to get to Manchester than Burnley on a Saturday for all of the 18 other Premier League clubs fans

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Re: Our away attendances this season

Post by Cleveleys_claret » Tue Oct 16, 2018 9:32 pm

Unless performances improve and by that I mean the team actually retaining the ball longer than 5 seconds then home attendances will be next.

Not that it matters as with the sky money we dont even need fans to make money, hence Garlick and Dyche not being interested in signing flair players that have fans on the edges of their seats.

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Re: Our away attendances this season

Post by tim_noone » Tue Oct 16, 2018 9:36 pm

Burnley always p!ss poor away. And I'm with DA Burnley would not be my idea of an Away day... There's nothing to see.

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Re: Our away attendances this season

Post by Quickenthetempo » Tue Oct 16, 2018 10:08 pm

Grumps wrote:Try getting to Manchester on Saturday, not easy
The Turf hotel still have seats on a bus going on Saturday. They were advertising it on Facebook.

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Re: Our away attendances this season

Post by Vegas Claret » Tue Oct 16, 2018 10:23 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:I agree not only are we a poorly supported club we are also situated in a sh*t hole of a town with poor transport links and out of the way for most clubs. We must be one of the most unattractive away days Prem League fans will ever have to contend with
Go take a watch of some of the fans youtube channels, you'll find away fans love coming to the Turf as it's an old fashioned ground and the CFS has great acoustics - it's places like Wembley and the Etihad they hate going to

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Re: Our away attendances this season

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Tue Oct 16, 2018 10:24 pm

Grumps wrote:Try getting to Manchester on Saturday, not easy
X43??
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Re: Our away attendances this season

Post by Devils_Advocate » Tue Oct 16, 2018 10:33 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:Go take a watch of some of the fans youtube channels, you'll find away fans love coming to the Turf as it's an old fashioned ground and the CFS has great acoustics - it's places like Wembley and the Etihad they hate going to
I refer the right honorable gentleman to my response on post 13. Also you can show anything in a good light on youtube I once saw a video montage of Gabor Kiraly that made him appear to be a half decent keeper and not some joker in clown pants

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Re: Our away attendances this season

Post by Jakubclaret » Tue Oct 16, 2018 10:46 pm

Think lots of folk are just cash strapped & with Christmas round the corner it’s difficult to justify, I pick & choose indiscriminately with pending finances & work schedule. Away days are a luxury for me but still enjoyable nevertheless as a treat.

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Re: Our away attendances this season

Post by Bin Ont Turf » Tue Oct 16, 2018 10:59 pm

tim_noone wrote:Burnley always p!ss poor away. And I'm with DA Burnley would not be my idea of an Away day... There's nothing to see.
You're talking shite lad.

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Post by tim_noone » Tue Oct 16, 2018 11:09 pm

Bin Ont Turf wrote:You're talking shite lad.
Yes.... Apart from that big orange clad 'thing' entering The Town.

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Re: Our away attendances this season

Post by jrgbfc » Tue Oct 16, 2018 11:09 pm

Think the point people are trying to make is that coming from somewhere like London the need to get a train to Manchester or Leeds and then spend another hour on a train from there just isn't that appealing. Especially when the trains between Burnley and Manchester seems so unreliable.

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Re: Our away attendances this season

Post by Bin Ont Turf » Tue Oct 16, 2018 11:11 pm

tim_noone wrote:Yes.... Apart from that big orange clad 'thing' entering The Town.
How dare you talk about Dyche like that! :)

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Re: Our away attendances this season

Post by tybfc » Tue Oct 16, 2018 11:13 pm

Bin Ont Turf wrote:You're talking shite lad.
Aye.

You would think that we were bottom of League 2.

Some folk need to get a grip - and a ticket!

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Post by tim_noone » Tue Oct 16, 2018 11:14 pm

jrgbfc wrote:Think the point people are trying to make is that coming from somewhere like London the need to get a train to Manchester or Leeds and then spend another hour on a train from there just isn't that appealing. Especially when the trains between Burnley and Manchester seems so unreliable.
Might as well go by horse and cart ...trains running through Burnley to wherever are third world at best.

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Re: Our away attendances this season

Post by Leisure » Tue Oct 16, 2018 11:18 pm

Cleveleys_claret wrote:
Not that it matters as with the sky money we dont even need fans to make money, hence Garlick and Dyche not being interested in signing flair players that have fans on the edges of their seats.
And which flair players would these be that we could have signed but decided not to?

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Post by tim_noone » Tue Oct 16, 2018 11:19 pm

tybfc wrote:Aye.

You would think that we were bottom of League 2.

Some folk need to get a grip - and a ticket!
Burnley is Grim there's nothing there of interest. Got em!

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Re: Our away attendances this season

Post by Bin Ont Turf » Tue Oct 16, 2018 11:28 pm

tim_noone wrote:Burnley is Grim there's nothing there of interest. Got em!
If your focus is wanting to see things of interest then you'll do your homework and then act on that accordingly.

If you get dropped off in town and just want a beer and to follow your team, then Burnley is much the same as anywhere else.

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Re: Our away attendances this season

Post by Leisure » Tue Oct 16, 2018 11:44 pm

Not sure how/why the thread has moved onto the attractiveness or otherwise of Burnley for away fans! Just to get it back on track, will our Cardiff following of 719 be the lowest away following for all PL clubs this season?

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Post by Devils_Advocate » Tue Oct 16, 2018 11:48 pm

Leisure wrote:Not sure how/why the thread has moved onto the attractiveness or otherwise of Burnley for away fans!
Post 5. That Spijed is a right bugger for derailing threads
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Re: Our away attendances this season

Post by KRBFC » Wed Oct 17, 2018 12:58 am

The football is dreadful, people don't want to travel to watch dire football. You all pretend you love the disgusting hoofball but the attendance figures you mentioned proves otherwise.

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Post by tybfc » Wed Oct 17, 2018 1:07 am

KRBFC wrote:The football is dreadful, people don't want to travel to watch dire football. You all pretend you love the disgusting hoofball but the attendance figures you mentioned proves otherwise.
1500 went to Fulham for a 4'o'clock kick off on a Sunday following a Thursday night game.

Have you told them that they didn't want to travel?

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Re: Our away attendances this season

Post by ten bellies » Wed Oct 17, 2018 1:29 am

Devils_Advocate wrote:From where cos I bet its a damn site easier to get to Manchester than Burnley on a Saturday for all of the 18 other Premier League clubs fans
Northern Fail are on strike every Saturday. The landlord of The Ministry of Ale has commented how much his business is down on match days. A lot of away fans prefer to travel by rail. Getting to City by rail will be difficult, and some might not fancy crossing their legs on a rail replacement bus after a few pints.

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Re: Our away attendances this season

Post by tybfc » Wed Oct 17, 2018 1:41 am

The X43 from Burnley Bus Station to Victoria / Deansgate takes an hour and runs every 15 minutes. Surely everybody could cross their legs for that long?

ps - If you want entry into a City centre pub and live in Urmston make sure you have a utility bill with you.

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Re: Our away attendances this season

Post by Rowls » Wed Oct 17, 2018 4:12 am

randomclaret2 wrote: As for the area being run down....have a look round City's surrounds on Saturday..
You don't imagine Man City still draw their support from Moss Side rather than Singapore do you?

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Re: Our away attendances this season

Post by Devils_Advocate » Wed Oct 17, 2018 8:45 am

ten bellies wrote:Northern Fail are on strike every Saturday. The landlord of The Ministry of Ale has commented how much his business is down on match days. A lot of away fans prefer to travel by rail. Getting to City by rail will be difficult, and some might not fancy crossing their legs on a rail replacement bus after a few pints.
Exactly so getting to Burnley by rail for fans is much harder than getting to city's like Liverpool, Manchester and London. That was sort of my point at the outset of this thread but I appreciate you helping reiterate it

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Re: Our away attendances this season

Post by Cleveleys_claret » Wed Oct 17, 2018 8:55 am

Leisure wrote:And which flair players would these be that we could have signed but decided not to?
I am not paid for that to be my job. There are several at the club though who are

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Re: Our away attendances this season

Post by tybfc » Wed Oct 17, 2018 8:56 am

Devils_Advocate wrote:Exactly so getting to Burnley by rail for fans is much harder than getting to city's like Liverpool, Manchester and London. That was sort of my point at the outset of this thread but I appreciate you helping reiterate it
Read the thread title. AWAY ATTENDANCES.

Northern Fail being on strike every Saturday hasn't stopped me just booking two train tickets to Spurs. Or we could have gone on one of the supporters club coaches. Or flown down. Or driven.

You are kind of missing the point I think.

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Re: Our away attendances this season

Post by Devils_Advocate » Wed Oct 17, 2018 9:07 am

tybfc wrote:Read the thread title. AWAY ATTENDANCES.

Northern Fail being on strike every Saturday hasn't stopped me just booking two train tickets to Spurs. Or we could have gone on one of the supporters club coaches. Or flown down. Or driven.

You are kind of missing the point I think.
Not really there has also been a discussion around Burnley being an unattractive away day for other fans with one of the arguments that Manchester is an easier city to get to. A few people if I have understood correctly are using the example of the poor train services to get from Burnley to Manchester as an example of Manchester being difficult to get to but this further backs up the original point that getting in and out of Burnley isn't great compared to a lot of other places.

Now if I've misunderstood and the poster is making the point that the reason Burnleys away attendances have been crap is because that rail journeys out of Burnley and back in are rubbish then that's a fair point.

Finally topics like this talk about people on the whole and averages and don't revolve around you and what you like or are willing to do which really hasn't got much relevance

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