Sir Philip Green.

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Sir Philip Green.

Postby GodIsADeeJay81 » Thu Oct 25, 2018 6:23 pm

Now we can talk about him, appears he's an even bigger tosser than he was before.

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Re: Sir Philip Green.

Postby HunterST_BFC » Thu Oct 25, 2018 6:37 pm

Thinks he is above the Law.
Powerful friends.
Completely fecks people over - has done all his life - for personal gain.
Usually gets away with everything to the long term cost of everyone else.
Not surprised in the least by this latest news.
...
but will probably pay his way out of it somehow.
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

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Re: Sir Philip Green.

Postby Barry_Chuckle » Thu Oct 25, 2018 6:40 pm

Perv....

No not you GodIsaDeeJay81, Philip Green ;)

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Re: Sir Philip Green.

Postby Quickenthetempo » Thu Oct 25, 2018 6:44 pm

Can we stop calling him Sir?

Tosser of the highest order.
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Re: Sir Philip Green.

Postby GodIsADeeJay81 » Thu Oct 25, 2018 7:06 pm

Barry_Chuckle wrote:Perv....

No not you GodIsaDeeJay81, Philip Green ;)


You don't need to tell me, I already know I am 8-)
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Re: Sir Philip Green.

Postby GodIsADeeJay81 » Thu Oct 25, 2018 7:07 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:Can we stop calling him Sir?

Tosser of the highest order.


We can, but it's still there until he's stripped of it.

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Re: Sir Philip Green.

Postby Steve1956 » Thu Oct 25, 2018 7:08 pm

A total arrogant wide boy ....chuffed he's been outed.....that knighthood looking sadder than Saville's
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Re: Sir Philip Green.

Postby South West Claret. » Thu Oct 25, 2018 7:13 pm

Innocent until proven guilty as they say but in his case I’ll make an exception..the arrogant big mouthed bullying git of a low life specimen of a human being, but that’s just my balanced open minded humble opinion :P
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Re: Sir Philip Green.

Postby tim_noone » Thu Oct 25, 2018 7:14 pm

Him and his wife parasites ....

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Re: Sir Philip Green.

Postby Nonayforever » Thu Oct 25, 2018 7:15 pm

I'm sorry, but the people he has sexually and racially insulted are as bad as him by virtue of the fact they have accepted his tainted money.

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Re: Sir Philip Green.

Postby HunterST_BFC » Thu Oct 25, 2018 11:31 pm

Nonayforever wrote:I'm sorry, but the people he has sexually and racially insulted are as bad as him by virtue of the fact they have accepted his tainted money.

More than likely forced too do so sadly.
Don't think his back is not or has not been covered over the years...
It's amazing what he has "got away with" and he has allies suckling from both major parties and probably the third also.
Vested interests and power within and across the spectrum..............
It stinks !!! ...and stank before today.

You have to give a nod though for managing to feck over so many in power to the point where nobody would dare to stop him... even with knowledge of the likely end game regards £.

Then he gets given "Sir". (check the timing of this if you are any doubt) but allow for when the process would have been started for this.
Then wonder why it happened when it did.
Then question who knew what / gained - and then see the way things have been managed since regards his "business" and his "family" - the way they were dealt with.
Compare it to how others would have been treated?

Peter Hain at least had the large round ones to finally say / find a way to put at least comma if not yet a full stop - to stop this (pick your own word xxxxxxxxxxxx).
I Just wish the non-disclosure agreements (NDAs) had been challenged years ago.
The system has protected the system for years.

I want this guy dragged through all the mud he has churned over the years and found easy to scoop under the carpet.
Those who benefited / knew - Also
Will it happen?
I doubt it somehow............

He'll end up with most of it.. and we'll get taxed for fighting the cases against him - Out gunned.
He /This / It's - Morally Bankrupt.
Some of his "a'hem crimes" would involve his assets being seized if it were another crime. Can you see this happening to him? Nah.......

I can't believe I have wasted my time posting this...........
A Blind Man On A Galloping Horse ... probably could see this years ago

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Re: Sir Philip Green.

Postby tim_noone » Thu Oct 25, 2018 11:45 pm

How's Sir Richard Branson getting On these Days?
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Re: Sir Philip Green.

Postby Millertime v1.7 » Fri Oct 26, 2018 10:32 am

Rumpus claimed to have been wined and dined on Greens yacht at Cannes last year. Green probably picked up a few bad habits from him.

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Re: Sir Philip Green.

Postby TVC15 » Fri Oct 26, 2018 10:58 am

What a t-wat this guy his. How he is not in prison for what he and his wife did with the pension funds f-uck only knows - hopefully he gets a stint inside now and gets to share a cell with Big Vern.

I saw his yacht last year docking into Monaco. I say yacht - it’s more like a ship....all paid for by the retirement savings of the people who worked for him for years.

And anyone who still thinks our peer and knighthood system is not corrupt and not based on money only needs to look at the tw-ats like Green and Branson who bought theirs.

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Re: Phil Green.

Postby IanMcL » Fri Oct 26, 2018 8:38 pm

Nasty piece of work.

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Re: Sir Philip Green.

Postby Rick_Muller » Fri Oct 26, 2018 8:45 pm

I reserve the “C” word (rhymes with runt) for only the most dispicable members of society, and he is one.

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Re: Sir Philip Green.

Postby Garnerssoap » Fri Oct 26, 2018 9:56 pm

Had a beer with him once. Nice fella

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Re: Sir Philip Green.

Postby Jakubclaret » Fri Oct 26, 2018 10:02 pm

Grade A knob from what I’ve heard but can’t be 100% about the bloke. As a irrefutable fact.

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Re: Sir Philip Green.

Postby Aclaret » Fri Oct 26, 2018 10:14 pm

Millertime v1.7 wrote:Rumpus claimed to have been wined and dined on Greens yacht at Cannes last year. Green probably picked up a few bad habits from him.

Long way from Aberdeen to Cannes on a yacht. Hope Rumps kept a close eye on Morag whilst in the pervs company (Green).

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Re: Sir Philip Green.

Postby GodIsADeeJay81 » Wed Jun 12, 2019 5:59 pm

His Arcadia Group has just about avoided entering administration, but it's worth noting that it's got a pension deficit of approx £750 million....

Some stores are going to be closed as a result of today's agreement and he's had to make various promises to the landlords to ensure they agree to CVA's.

That knighthood he was given for 'Services to the Retail Industry' is looking like it was given in error, especially after BHS collapsed.

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Re: Sir Philip Green.

Postby BennyD » Wed Jun 12, 2019 6:16 pm

He's a complete tosser. Got his knighthood off another, probably even bigger, tosser. IIRC, he asked the banks how much debt his empire could sustain and was told 1.2 billion. He then paid his wife, a Monaco resident a (tax fee) dividend of 1.2 billion. Shortly after he was knighted for services to the retail sector. It's all right for some.

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Re: Sir Philip Green.

Postby Herts Clarets » Wed Jun 12, 2019 6:37 pm

So basically the combined pension deficits of BHS and Arcadia Group total around the same as this slimeball's net worth. Robbing the poor to feed the rich.

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Re: Sir Philip Green.

Postby Pimlico_Claret » Wed Jun 12, 2019 10:21 pm

Classic example of why the honours list should be resigned to history. Rich ******* gone wrong.

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Re: Sir Philip Green.

Postby Blackrod » Wed Jun 12, 2019 10:25 pm

The honours list is a farce.
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Re: Sir Philip Green.

Postby TVC15 » Wed Jun 12, 2019 10:34 pm

Complete and utter c-unt.
Robbed thousand of their pensions
Made thousands redundant
Transferred his wealth (sorry his employees pensions) to his c-unt of a wife.
Now has a ship bigger than Padiham that he regularly shows off in the likes of Monaco.

All that said I would allow him to keep his knighthood - but only on the condition that he changes his name and he is known for ever as “Sir C-unt”

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Re: Sir Philip Green.

Postby Taffy on the wing » Wed Jun 12, 2019 10:50 pm

HunterST_BFC wrote:Thinks he is above the Law.
Powerful friends.
Completely fecks people over - has done all his life - for personal gain.
Usually gets away with everything to the long term cost of everyone else.
Not surprised in the least by this latest news.
...
but will probably pay his way out of it somehow.
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Just like Trump!..........screws people over left and right, then fight to the death in court! Most people can't afford to pay for a protracted court battle, so the Trumps and Greens of this world keep winning.....Bastards!

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Re: Sir Philip Green.

Postby Garnerssoap » Thu Jun 13, 2019 1:19 am

Well we mostly do still vote for his lot so what do we expect

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Re: Sir Philip Green.

Postby Alanstevensonsgloves » Thu Jun 13, 2019 5:55 am

Jakubclaret wrote:Grade A knob from what I’ve heard but can’t be 100% about the bloke. As a irrefutable fact.


Despite once having a wee next to him in the bogs of the Mandarin Oriental Park Lane, I cannot comment on the quality of his knob :D

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Re: Sir Philip Green.

Postby hampsteadclaret » Thu Jun 13, 2019 8:17 am

An utter **** this bloke.
Why is he still hanging on to that ‘knighthood’?
What use are they anyway?
That man needs dealing with in the courts.. properly.

What was that phrase from the 1970’s?..

- ‘the unacceptable face of capitalism’.

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Re: Sir Philip Green.

Postby Hendrickxz » Thu Jun 13, 2019 8:38 am

'Orrible little shi-t! I hope his stores in Burnley shut down -- we need more coffee shops!

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Re: Sir Philip Green.

Postby bob-the-scutter » Thu Jun 13, 2019 6:04 pm

Hopefully pretty soon he'll meet up with Joe Brand!

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Re: Sir Philip Green.

Postby Bosscat » Thu Jun 13, 2019 6:16 pm

tim_noone wrote:Him and his wife parasites ....

I thought her name was Tina?
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Re: Sir Philip Green.

Postby Steve1956 » Fri Jun 14, 2019 9:02 am

Bosscat wrote:I thought her name was Tina?

:lol:

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Re: Sir Philip Green.

Postby BurnleyFC » Fri Jun 14, 2019 9:41 am

Bosscat wrote:I thought her name was Tina?

It’s Theresa.

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Re: Sir Philip Green.

Postby Bosscat » Fri Jun 14, 2019 1:32 pm

BurnleyFC wrote:It’s Theresa.


Christina -Tina - Green
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tina_Green

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Re: Sir Philip Green.

Postby Dyched » Fri Jun 14, 2019 2:27 pm

Alanstevensonsgloves wrote:Despite once having a wee next to him in the bogs of the Mandarin Oriental Park Lane, I cannot comment on the quality of his knob :D


I’d have turned round a ****** on him

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Re: Sir Philip Green.

Postby miele-man » Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:05 pm

He seems to have built up quite a sizable empire so I wont criticize him for that , most of us would love to be in his position , given a lot to charity over the years which he doesn't have to do . Not many people in life have not trod on a few toes to get what they want whether in business or otherwise .
You guys don't like him , I dont know him ,but he is a tremendous success and a little like Mike Ashley he gets and takes a lot of flak without it bothering him .

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Re: Sir Philip Green.

Postby GodIsADeeJay81 » Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:16 pm

A tremendous success, but oddly his Arcadia group has a £750 million pension deficit and he lifted hundreds of millions out of the BHS pension pot before flogging it to a bankrupt crook, resulting in its collapse.

If being successful means running businesses at a loss and taking however much money he likes out of them, then hiding it all over in Monaco in his wife's name, then yeah he's successful.

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Re: Sir Philip Green.

Postby miele-man » Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:26 pm

Maybe the law needs changing , he,s still here with the BHS guy in prison . Taking money from pension schemes is definitely wrong but was it legal at the time ? and is it now illegal , i hope so.

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Re: Sir Philip Green.

Postby BurnleyFC » Fri Jun 14, 2019 5:01 pm

Bosscat wrote:Christina -Tina - Green
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tina_Green

Theresa Green.

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Re: Sir Philip Green.

Postby Spijed » Fri Jun 14, 2019 5:13 pm

miele-man wrote:given a lot to charity over the years which he doesn't have to do


Hmmm...

I'll take that with a very large pinch of salt.

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Re: Sir Philip Green.

Postby Bosscat » Fri Jun 14, 2019 5:49 pm

BurnleyFC wrote:Theresa Green.

:lol: :lol: :lol:
Missed it sorry
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Sir Philip Green.

Postby Paul Waine » Fri Jun 14, 2019 6:10 pm

miele-man wrote:Maybe the law needs changing , he,s still here with the BHS guy in prison . Taking money from pension schemes is definitely wrong but was it legal at the time ? and is it now illegal , i hope so.


GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:A tremendous success, but oddly his Arcadia group has a £750 million pension deficit and he lifted hundreds of millions out of the BHS pension pot before flogging it to a bankrupt xxxxxx, resulting in its collapse.

If being successful means running businesses at a loss and taking however much money he likes out of them, then hiding it all over in Monaco in his wife's name, then yeah he's successful.


Slow down, guys, neither Green nor his businesses, Arcadia or, previously, BHS "have taken money out of their pension schemes." That's just not how these deficits arise.

Process is:
1) employer sets up defined benefit pension scheme;
2) pension scheme is, typically, a trust and seperate from the employer;
3) employer pays in contributions - these contributions are agreed with the trustees of the pension scheme;
4) employees are also committed to make contributions, as deductions from their pay;
5) we can leave out the change in the tax rules that applied to pension schemes, if we like, but in 1997 Gordon Brown changed the tax rules, taking about £5 billion a year out of final salary pension schemes;
6) employees offered a pension for life from date of retirement - obviously, based on their length of service and salary on retirement, or average of 2/3 years before retirement;
7) people are, generally, living longer - which means pensions must be paid for longer - which means they cost the employer more;
8) the internet comes along and we all start shopping on-line - so, retail stores don't make as much as they used to;

Take all these things together, the pension deficits build up because we are living longer, because Gordon Brown changed the tax rules on pension scheme income and Arcadia and BHS were under financial pressure and didn't pay in enough into their pension schemes to make up for the longer lifes and GB's tax take.

Of course, possibly one of the reasons why BHS and Arcadia didn't pay in enough is because Mr and Mrs Green made decisions about dividends - and these payouts to themselves (and we all know Mrs Green is reported not to pay UK tax on her dividends) may have left BHS/Arcadia short of reserves which could have helped plug the pension deficit gap.

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Re: Sir Philip Green.

Postby GodIsADeeJay81 » Fri Jun 14, 2019 7:04 pm

Odd how companies are being caught out by the longer lifespan thing, yet this issue crippled numerous American companies decades ago, because they were lavish and didn't expect people to live longer.


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