Leicester helicopter crash

Fretters · Post by **Fretters** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 9:43 am

theroyaldyche wrote:Why havent they announced any deaths? Surely a disaster likr that is unsurvivable

As horrific as it sounds, they might struggle to identify any bodies without referring to dental records.

SonofPog · Post by **SonofPog** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 9:49 am

Fretters wrote:As horrific as it sounds, they might struggle to identify any bodies without referring to dental records.

That unfortunately is my thought too, reading the LCFC forum, seems he's known for offering a lift (back to London) to guests often.

claretandy · Post by **claretandy** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 9:54 am

Just been announced on Sky News that the Chairman, his daughter, 2 pilots and 1 unnamed person were on board.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 10:12 am

claretandy wrote:Just been announced on Sky News that the Chairman, his daughter, 2 pilots and 1 unnamed person were on board.

There were some rumours i saw that Puel might have been aboard but a friend of his says he's safe, according to the Guardian. So at least we know he's not the unnamed passenger.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/20 ... h-car-park" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

theroyaldyche · Post by **theroyaldyche** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 10:15 am

Imploding Turtle wrote:There were some rumours i saw that Puel might have been aboard but a friend of his says he's safe, according to the Guardian. So at least we know he's not the unnamed passenger.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/20 ... h-car-park" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I wouldnt have thought puel would leave so soon after full time

taio · Post by **taio** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 10:18 am

Imploding Turtle wrote:There were some rumours i saw that Puel might have been aboard but a friend of his says he's safe, according to the Guardian. So at least we know he's not the unnamed passenger.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/20 ... h-car-park" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Some people have a thirst for making stuff up.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 10:19 am

theroyaldyche wrote:I wouldnt have thought puel would leave so soon after full time

Me neither. It was only about 40 minutes or so, right?

taio · Post by **taio** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 10:20 am

Imploding Turtle wrote:Me neither. It was only about 40 minutes or so, right?

The link you posted says 8.30pm

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 10:25 am

About an hour then.

RocketLawnChair · Post by **RocketLawnChair** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 10:28 am

I’d read on Twitter (so not forced to be true) that a lady called Susan Whelan was a passenger she is the CEO at LCFC according to the source. A tragic accident condolences to everybody effected.

Paul Waine · Post by **Paul Waine** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 10:48 am

Condolences to everyone connected to this tragic accident. RIP.

Turfmoor321 · Post by **Turfmoor321** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:11 am

RocketLawnChair wrote:I’d read on Twitter (so not forced to be true) that a lady called Susan Whelan was a passenger she is the CEO at LCFC according to the source. A tragic accident condolences to everybody effected.

False Susan & her husband reported safe & well

Down_Rover · Post by **Down_Rover** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:34 am

Why do people speculate?

This is tragic and guessing who was on board only makes it worse for those connected to the missing people

We will know soon enough

Sean Dyche's Watch · Post by **Sean Dyche's Watch** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:38 am

Down_Rover wrote:Why do people speculate?

This is tragic and guessing who was on board only makes it worse for those connected to the missing people

We will know soon enough

a sad indictment of today's society, unfortunately - wanting sensitive and serious information instantly before it has been verified.

There is a protocol to be followed when things like this happen, and because letting the general public know isn't an early part of that protocol, the general public tend to speculate until the correct version of events is disclosed.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:50 am

Down_Rover wrote:Why do people speculate?

Human nature.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 12:02 pm

Spiral wrote:https://twitter.com/i/status/1056284627193790464

"The owners are now heading off. It's when we consider out life choices."

****ing hell, that's disturbing.

That is eery as hell.

Obviously understand the sentiment but still eery.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 12:06 pm

South West Claret. wrote:The most dangerous times for a helicopter to crash is when taking off and landing, in fact their safety record isn’t that good relative to aircraft.

Remember when the Chelsea vice chairman I think at the time dying in one of these things after a midweek game at Bolton from memory. Some decades ago.

The one bit of advice I always took from my dad... dont ever get in a helicopter. Even at 33 when theres been chances to go in one 'sorry my dad said im not allowed!'

Saw two taking off with some very wealthy chinese passengers from the distillery at the isle of skye. How they didnt come down I will never know. Looked ridiculously unsafe.

Someone mrs knows is a pilot. And shes not the best of fliers. He reassured her that flying is completely safe and just described it as magic. When she asked about helicopters he said black magic, dont do it...

Terrible news. Shocking.

theroyaldyche · Post by **theroyaldyche** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 12:26 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:The one bit of advice I always took from my dad... dont ever get in a helicopter. Even at 33 when theres been chances to go in one 'sorry my dad said im not allowed!'

Saw two taking off with some very wealthy chinese passengers from the distillery at the isle of skye. How they didnt come down I will never know. Looked ridiculously unsafe.

Someone mrs knows is a pilot. And shes not the best of fliers. He reassured her that flying is completely safe and just described it as magic. When she asked about helicopters he said black magic, dont do it...

Terrible news. Shocking.

Snap

They dont seem safe at all

South West Claret. · Post by **South West Claret.** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 10:16 pm

Confirmation of crash.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-l ... e-46013381" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

quoonbeatz · Post by **quoonbeatz** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 10:47 pm

Sad news. Didn't know much about the owner but he seems to have been a sound guy.

We're their next home game now.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 10:47 pm

Horrendous. Puts EVERYTHING, but especially today into perspective.

Awful news.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 10:49 pm

The Premier League is facing pressure to ban helicopters from stadiums after eyewitnesses claimed the pilot in charge of the aircraft at the King Power Stadium prevented an even greater tragedy by diverting it away from supporters and staff.

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What a hero that man is. Knew what was coming. What his fate was. But managed to save others.

Damo · Post by **Damo** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 10:53 pm

Awful news.
Burnley FC have put out a short statement on twitter and it's gathered some weird replies

CombatClaret · Post by **CombatClaret** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:15 pm

It's a little embarrassing our image of grieving contains a half finished photoshop job.

thatdberight · Post by **thatdberight** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:20 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:The Premier League is facing pressure to ban helicopters from stadiums after eyewitnesses claimed the pilot in charge of the aircraft at the King Power Stadium prevented an even greater tragedy by diverting it away from supporters and staff.

I'm not sure why the Premier League should be pressured to do the job of the proper authorities which govern our airspace in regulating risks from air traffic.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:46 pm

thatdberight wrote:I'm not sure why the Premier League should be pressured to do the job of the proper authorities which govern our airspace in regulating risks from air traffic.

It's nonsense. The crash was an hour after full time. Fans were gone. If we're gonna ban flights an hour after a group of people gathered then we may as well ban all flights over populated areas.

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Mon Oct 29, 2018 12:08 am

Imploding Turtle wrote:It's nonsense. The crash was an hour after full time. Fans were gone. If we're gonna ban flights an hour after a group of people gathered then we may as well ban all flights over populated areas.

It flew in when fans were still in the stadium. Must have been well within the hour, and plenty of people still around.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Mon Oct 29, 2018 12:16 am

dsr wrote:It flew in when fans were still in the stadium. Must have been well within the hour, and plenty of people still around.

That's a fair point.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Mon Oct 29, 2018 2:00 am

Helicopters have a dreadful safety record, I'm amazed they were allowed to land inside the stadium tbh. RIP to those on board, truly horrible way to go.

RocketLawnChair · Post by **RocketLawnChair** » Mon Oct 29, 2018 7:23 am

Turfmoor321 wrote:False Susan & her husband reported safe & well

Hence why I wrote may not be true. I now believe the 5 people on board have been named. My condolences to all concerned again

ClaretEngineer · Post by **ClaretEngineer** » Mon Oct 29, 2018 7:36 am

Terrible news, we always hope that there are no tragedies.

When it goes wrong in a helicopter it goes from good to sh*t very very quickly.

For our game I hope our fans show the respect to the occasion that it deserves.

slw · Post by **slw** » Mon Oct 29, 2018 8:16 am

Ive been on an helicopter myself whilst on holiday years ago. It was a nervy experience and was relieved to get off.
Incidents like this are rare but this is an horrible disaster, life is so cruel. RIP to all the victims.

ClaretAndJew · Post by **ClaretAndJew** » Mon Oct 29, 2018 8:18 am

Isn't there still someone just listed as "passenger"?

quoonbeatz · Post by **quoonbeatz** » Mon Oct 29, 2018 8:22 am

ClaretAndJew wrote:Isn't there still someone just listed as "passenger"?

nope, all been named.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-l ... e-46013381" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Falcon · Post by **Falcon** » Mon Oct 29, 2018 8:59 am

The 'passenger' is the partner of the pilot, who was also an accomplished pilot herself apparently.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Mon Oct 29, 2018 10:35 am

I didn't put anything on the site initially but following the news yesterday with the confirmed loss of life, added to the sad death of a supporter at Brighton, I've now included this on the site.

http://www.uptheclarets.com/our-thought ... r-football" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Hipper · Post by **Hipper** » Mon Oct 29, 2018 11:41 am

cricketfieldclarets wrote:The Premier League is facing pressure to ban helicopters from stadiums after eyewitnesses claimed the pilot in charge of the aircraft at the King Power Stadium prevented an even greater tragedy by diverting it away from supporters and staff.

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What a hero that man is. Knew what was coming. What his fate was. But managed to save others.

They always say this with plane crashes and usually it is nonsense.

The pilot will have been trying to deal with the situation as best he can but likely he would not have known what the problem was nor do much to deal with it. Compared to an aircraft I would have thought that once you lose lift in a helicopter there's not much that can be done.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Mon Oct 29, 2018 1:34 pm

It just makes you think. It doesn't matter how many millions you have in the bank, your days could end in a second.

As Bob Marley once said, "Money can't buy life".

box_of_frogs · Post by **box_of_frogs** » Mon Oct 29, 2018 2:55 pm

Hipper wrote:They always say this with plane crashes and usually it is nonsense.

The pilot will have been trying to deal with the situation as best he can but likely he would not have known what the problem was nor do much to deal with it. Compared to an aircraft I would have thought that once you lose lift in a helicopter there's not much that can be done.

Agreed - once the tail rotor goes (if that's what it was) then you're only going 1 way - down. Close to the ground with less speed, there's little time to try and auto-rotate down.

The black humour in the military gives choppers a nickname of 'spinning death machines'. I've had friends crash in them several times. Some lived, some died. Sadly just the way it goes.

deanothedino · Post by **deanothedino** » Mon Oct 29, 2018 3:09 pm

Hipper wrote:They always say this with plane crashes and usually it is nonsense.

The pilot will have been trying to deal with the situation as best he can but likely he would not have known what the problem was nor do much to deal with it. Compared to an aircraft I would have thought that once you lose lift in a helicopter there's not much that can be done.

There's not much you can do if you lose lift in an aircraft either, you're just very unlikely to lose both wings.

From what's been reported it sounds like an engine failure, but as soon as the tail rotor stops a conventional helicopter will just spin. He might have had some limited control with feathering the rotorblades but like you say... unlikely he would have been able to truly know what the result of that would be.

claptrappers_union · Post by **claptrappers_union** » Tue Oct 30, 2018 8:36 am

There’s CCTV footage on Sky News. The helicopter goes up and leaves the screen for a few moments. Then you see it reappear into the frame - simply dropping from the sky.

I’m no aviation expert, but from the white blob from CCTV filmed on a mobile phone... it looks like there was no control.

It’s scary that a helicopter can stop working

NRC · Post by **NRC** » Tue Oct 30, 2018 11:06 am

Seems like a very sound guy. He has four kids, and he is survived by them and his wife, Aimon Srivaddhanaprabha. She must be thankful none of them nor herself were on the flight. Not so lucky for his assistant Nursara Suknamai, a former Miss Thailand runner-up and Miss Photogenic winner.

deanothedino · Post by **deanothedino** » Tue Oct 30, 2018 12:25 pm

claptrappers_union wrote: It’s scary that a helicopter can stop working

It's the major disadvantage to something that flies by generating lift with machinery.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Tue Oct 30, 2018 12:33 pm

deanothedino wrote:It's the major disadvantage to something that flies by generating lift with machinary.

Some people are going to think you're being sarcastic, but i think you're pointing out that helicopters can't glide.

But if you were being sarcastic then you get an extra point for being funny and right at the same time.

deanothedino · Post by **deanothedino** » Tue Oct 30, 2018 12:40 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:Some people are going to think you're being sarcastic, but i think you're pointing out that helicopters can't glide.

But if you were being sarcastic then you get an extra point for being funny and right at the same time.

I'm just glad it has been appreciated.

claretandy · Post by **claretandy** » Tue Oct 30, 2018 2:05 pm

NRC wrote:Seems like a very sound guy. He has four kids, and he is survived by them and his wife, Aimon Srivaddhanaprabha. She must be thankful none of them nor herself were on the flight. Not so lucky for his assistant Nursara Suknamai, a former Miss Thailand runner-up and Miss Photogenic winner.

AKA, his mistress.

Chobulous · Post by **Chobulous** » Tue Oct 30, 2018 2:07 pm

claretandy wrote:AKA, his mistress.

Not necessary

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Tue Oct 30, 2018 2:10 pm

Dan Roan:
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/bbc- ... 75146.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Tue Oct 30, 2018 2:23 pm

Spijed wrote:Dan Roan:
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/bbc- ... 75146.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

"Just want to say sorry for some comments made in a private, off-air conversation earlier with a colleague. Absolutely no offence intended"

Interesting for him to think including 'private, off-air conversation' should somehow excuse him for saying it.

I see plenty of people replying, pretending to be offended to make themselves feel significant.

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Tue Oct 30, 2018 2:35 pm

#LeicesterCityFC listen to how they mourn for a man who was a foreigner, cosmopolitan, 'person of nowhere' in Theresa May's words. What do your white natvist influencers have to say about that?? Yasim Alibai-Brown

What inappropriate, insensitivity .

Using this tragedy as an opportunity to indulge herself in race baiting is appalling.