MIGHTY CLARETS versus Chelski

SussexDon1inIreland · Post by **SussexDon1inIreland** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 2:46 pm

the top 5 clubs are all too good for the rest of the division

SGr · Post by **SGr** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 2:46 pm

Game over, poor defending as is becoming the norm this season.

Hendrick at 10 surprisingly hasn’t worked, in spite of what is now literally years of exactly the same thing.

SussexDon1inIreland · Post by **SussexDon1inIreland** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 2:47 pm

Wood on for Vokes

HunterST_BFC · Post by **HunterST_BFC** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 2:47 pm

another 2 go low past Hart on his left side.
Hmmm

ClaretAndJew · Post by **ClaretAndJew** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 2:49 pm

Strange substitution

SGr · Post by **SGr** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 2:50 pm

Still no Vydra then? Dropped for zero reason after Cardiff and in his place we have a man who never has and never will have the attributes for that position.

Give it a rest Dyche.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 2:50 pm

how is hendrick still on the pitch ?

burnleymik · Post by **burnleymik** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 2:50 pm

HunterST_BFC wrote:another 2 go low past Hart on his left side.
Hmmm

Hart's first cracking save was on his left side. Not much he could do with the goals. He is the one of the last players who deserve criticism.

..and thats 0-3.

SussexDon1inIreland · Post by **SussexDon1inIreland** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 2:51 pm

the rich foreign team score again

Conroy92 · Post by **Conroy92** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 2:51 pm

Frustrating, the defence has been poor today. People will ask what I expected against a good Chelsea side, I thought we'd get beat as most did. However watching his game, Chelsea have not been anything special, if we'd had kept strong at the back we could have easily stolen a point.

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 2:51 pm

Goodnight Vienna.

SGr · Post by **SGr** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 2:51 pm

I was confident about our goal difference, but now we’ve played two good teams and conceded 8*

*so far.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 2:52 pm

Please sir. Can I have an extra billion pounds.

HunterST_BFC · Post by **HunterST_BFC** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 2:52 pm

and again...
3 bottom left....

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 2:53 pm

Tarkowski jogging around like a schoolboy instead of closing down

ClaretAndJew · Post by **ClaretAndJew** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 2:53 pm

What did you all expect?

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 2:53 pm

this will end up being as bad as City

Conroy92 · Post by **Conroy92** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 2:53 pm

Where is the desire to get out and block shots? We've lost that edge of us throwing ourselves at balls and blocking with our body's. I'm getting sick of watching this desirless garbage! I know it's Chelsea but bloody hell this is wearing thin now.

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 2:54 pm

ClaretAndJew wrote:What did you all expect?

Effort

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 2:54 pm

ClaretAndJew wrote:What did you all expect?

Exactly what's happening.

Paul Waine · Post by **Paul Waine** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 2:54 pm

Is it time to give Tom a game - and, maybe, just maybe, organise the defence in front of him?

Or, would Joe Hart be expected to have a great game on his return to the London Stadium next week?

I'm not backing the second choice - it didn't work out at City.

SGr · Post by **SGr** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 2:55 pm

ClaretAndJew wrote:What did you all expect?

F*ck all. Which is less than I expected last season.

South West Claret. · Post by **South West Claret.** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 2:55 pm

Sounds worrying.

ClaretAndJew · Post by **ClaretAndJew** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 2:55 pm

Paul Waine wrote:Is it time to give Tom a game - and, maybe, just maybe, organise the defence in front of him?

Or, would Joe Hart be expected to have a great game on his return to the London Stadium next week?

I'm not backing the second choice - it didn't work out at City.

Nothing the keeper could do with any of the goals.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 2:56 pm

Paul Waine wrote:Is it time to give Tom a game - and, maybe, just maybe, organise the defence in front of him?
Or, would Joe Hart be expected to have a great game on his return to the London Stadium next week?
I'm not backing the second choice - it didn't work out at City.

Excellent idea. Drop our best player.

SussexDon1inIreland · Post by **SussexDon1inIreland** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 2:56 pm

Barnsey has a black eye?

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 2:56 pm

ClaretAndJew wrote:What did you all expect?

The manager to maybe bring on our new number 10 that we were desperate for. I expected us to get beat but again it's the manner of

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 2:56 pm

ClaretAndJew wrote:Nothing the keeper could do with any of the goals.

I don't think that matters. Some people see 0-3 and think dropping the goalkeeper will sort everything. Football Manager has really screwed some people's minds.

SGr · Post by **SGr** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 2:58 pm

The year is 3042, a cryogenically frozen Jeff Hendrick, who has amassed 23 goals altogether in his 1026 year Burnley career is starting at number 10.

Right_winger · Post by **Right_winger** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 2:59 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:The manager to maybe bring on our new number 10 that we were desperate for. I expected us to get beat but again it's the manner of

I expected exactly what’s happening. We are stale and out of ideas. The “framework” and “low block” doesn’t work anymore as people are wise to it.

Paul Waine · Post by **Paul Waine** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 3:00 pm

FactualFrank wrote:Excellent idea. Drop our best player.

Yes, I know. Joe is at the top of the saves stats and James Tarkowski is top of the most blocks, with Ben Mee in 3rd place.

And, we are 0-8 down over (less than) two games.....

So, what is it that is not working for us?

And, sorry, Frank, I'm too old to have any experience or knowledge of "football manager" or any other "computer game."

Football is a team sport. In my book, it's how the team perform not just one "best" player. So, I'm just asking what is not working for us. I assume Sean Dyche and his coaching team are also thinking about the same things.

In no way should my comments be read as me thinking I've got the answer - and, of course from Sept last year it was Nick Pope who was "making the difference."

bfc-sparta · Post by **bfc-sparta** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 3:00 pm

Let hendrick go on a free so there's no risk of him playing the no 10 role again

burnleymik · Post by **burnleymik** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 3:00 pm

Hart walking round the pitch trying to gee up each player. Kudos.

South West Claret. · Post by **South West Claret.** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 3:00 pm

BBC saying Burnley backing off for both the last two goals, a pattern that must be addressed.

SussexDon1inIreland · Post by **SussexDon1inIreland** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 3:00 pm

Corky injured coming off

burnleymik · Post by **burnleymik** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 3:01 pm

Westwood for Cork.

SGr · Post by **SGr** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 3:01 pm

South West Claret. wrote:BBC saying Burnley backing off for both the last two goals, a pattern that must be addressed.

We’ve been doing that for years, we don’t address issues unless there’s a literal fan revolt about them.

PutTheWheelieBinsOut · Post by **PutTheWheelieBinsOut** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 3:01 pm

We are also old and slow.

icu81b4 · Post by **icu81b4** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 3:02 pm

I don't know what this Turkish commentator is saying but he mentions Frank Lampard a lot!

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 3:02 pm

burnleymik wrote:Westwood for Cork.

That's a strange swap.

South West Claret. · Post by **South West Claret.** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 3:04 pm

SGr wrote:We’ve been doing that for years, we don’t address issues unless there’s a literal fan revolt about them.

Yes and it usually worked until now when for some reason we don’t throw ourselves at the ball so much.

buzzclarets79 · Post by **buzzclarets79** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 3:05 pm

5 shots on goal. 0 on target according to BBC.
Makes you wonder what the plan is....

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 3:06 pm

Paul Waine wrote:
So, what is it that is not working for us?

Quite simple, Paul. We're light years behind the two teams in question.

SussexDon1inIreland · Post by **SussexDon1inIreland** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 3:06 pm

corner clarets

bfc-sparta · Post by **bfc-sparta** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 3:07 pm

At 1 - 0 down we didn't look like scoring with 1 up front ,why wait till 3 -0 to change it to 2 up front

BurnleyFC · Post by **BurnleyFC** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 3:08 pm

buzzclarets79 wrote:5 shots on goal. 0 on target according to BBC.
Makes you wonder what the plan is....

Hit it long and hold on for a 3-0 loss.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 3:08 pm

ElectroClaret wrote:Quite simple, Paul. We're light years behind the two teams in question.

What we need is an extra billion pounds. That might help.

SussexDon1inIreland · Post by **SussexDon1inIreland** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 3:09 pm

Ash challenges their keeper and of course a corner we deserve is not given

Conroy92 · Post by **Conroy92** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 3:10 pm

Electro, it's not just these 2 teams we've been poor against though is it? Something is not obviously working this season. The footballs s*** and the results haven't been much better.

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 3:10 pm

FactualFrank wrote:What we need is an extra billion pounds. That might help.

How did we beat them last season then , and draw the season before ?