Humans have wiped out 60% of animals since 1970

ClaretAndJew · Post by **ClaretAndJew** » Tue Oct 30, 2018 9:03 am

Have a good day

https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... port-finds" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Tue Oct 30, 2018 9:10 am

We're winning. Other animals need to step up their game!

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Tue Oct 30, 2018 9:24 am

I wiped out a chicken last night. Delicious. Asdas extra tasty.

AlargeClaret · Post by **AlargeClaret** » Tue Oct 30, 2018 9:28 am

Imploding Turtle wrote:We're winning. Other animals need to step up their game!

Leisure · Post by **Leisure** » Tue Oct 30, 2018 9:46 am

Appalling statistics! Very very sad!

Bosscat · Post by **Bosscat** » Tue Oct 30, 2018 9:46 am

Imploding Turtle wrote:We're winning. Other animals need to step up their game!

Mayby they need to go to a "Back 3 with Wing Backs"

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Tue Oct 30, 2018 10:47 am

Humans are the scourge of the Earth.

Chobulous · Post by **Chobulous** » Tue Oct 30, 2018 10:56 am

IanMcL wrote:Humans are the scourge of the Earth.

That's a bit of a generalisations isn't it. You mean middle aged white males surely.

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Tue Oct 30, 2018 11:31 am

IanMcL wrote:Humans are the scourge of the Earth.

Its kill or be killed out there, Ian. We have to get them before they get us.

Its a jungle.

claretonthecoast1882 · Post by **claretonthecoast1882** » Tue Oct 30, 2018 11:34 am

Chobulous wrote:That's a bit of a generalisations isn't it. You mean middle aged white males surely.

Just the English ones

Falcon · Post by **Falcon** » Tue Oct 30, 2018 11:50 am

"Don't kid yourself Jimmy, if a cow ever got the chance he'd eat you and everyone you cared about!"

Claret Till I Die · Post by **Claret Till I Die** » Tue Oct 30, 2018 12:06 pm

I blame the Bob Lorders

Bfcboyo · Post by **Bfcboyo** » Tue Oct 30, 2018 12:20 pm

Claret Till I Die wrote:I blame the Bob Lorders

So true . It takes 7 freshly squeezed cows to make just 1 cup of bovril.

Hipper · Post by **Hipper** » Tue Oct 30, 2018 12:25 pm

http://www.livingplanetindex.org/projec ... ome_flag=1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

No where does it mention increases in human population, just our lifestyle. The population has doubled since 1970.

http://www.worldometers.info/world-popu ... n-by-year/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

BennyD · Post by **BennyD** » Tue Oct 30, 2018 12:43 pm

Has the loss of any one of those species noticeably affected you? No, nor me.

Falcon · Post by **Falcon** » Tue Oct 30, 2018 12:53 pm

It's not affected me either. But that's missing the point. I'd prefer to live in a world where we didn't destroy everything we touch.

The palm oil industry could realistically wipe out the Orangutan in the next few years. It wouldn't change my life whatsoever on a day to day basis, but I'd be gutted that a wonderful, unique, intelligent species would be gone forever.

Climate change has wiped out 80% of the Great Barrier Reef in the last 5 years. If you go diving there off Queensland nowadays all you see is acres of bleached white dead coral where a colourful, beautiful and biodiverse ecosystem once was. A crying shame.

Dougall · Post by **Dougall** » Tue Oct 30, 2018 12:57 pm

Those cats around Claret Tony's house must be particularly tough customers, then, if they're amongst the survivors.
Ignore all previous advice, CT - head for the hills !!!

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Tue Oct 30, 2018 1:02 pm

BennyD wrote:Has the loss of any one of those species noticeably affected you? No, nor me.

This is such a stupid post. Did you not learn about food chains in school?

willsclarets · Post by **willsclarets** » Tue Oct 30, 2018 1:05 pm

That has blown my mind a bit, the figures are astounding and extremely sad and worrying.

Pstotto · Post by **Pstotto** » Tue Oct 30, 2018 1:13 pm

We need to switch from a global economic growth model to a localized 'ebeneezer good in one's own country' economic model on a nationalize and rationalize production of all things, rather than follow a myth of consumer choice where everything is crap but in many different variations. The Age of Conceit is literally a junk era. There is a form race as much as a space race, I'm working on contextualizing it via describing a transcendental structure, whether discovered or invented.

Hurricane Smith in 71 said there was a problem, sung with good sentiment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IKC2qmSyqg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

LoveCurryPies · Post by **LoveCurryPies** » Tue Oct 30, 2018 1:15 pm

BennyD wrote:Has the loss of any one of those species noticeably affected you? No, nor me.

Have you tried getting Cod in fish n chip shops recently?

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Tue Oct 30, 2018 1:17 pm

LoveCurryPies wrote:Have you tried getting Cod in fish n chip shops recently?

I was gonna ask him about fish prices, but then remembered that Benny blocks my posts because i provide too much supporting information for my opinions.

Falcon · Post by **Falcon** » Tue Oct 30, 2018 1:20 pm

Haddock's tastier anyway

Chobulous · Post by **Chobulous** » Tue Oct 30, 2018 1:25 pm

LoveCurryPies wrote:Have you tried getting Cod in fish n chip shops recently?

Pendle Street Chippy, Padiham. They have a choice of cod or haddock.

BigChaCha · Post by **BigChaCha** » Tue Oct 30, 2018 1:26 pm

Has the loss of any one of those species noticeably affected you? No, nor me.

Maybe not directly but we have almost certainly lost forever plants and microbiomes that could of cured many diseases, including some cancers.

It's scary to think that 150-200 species of plants, insects, birds and mammals become extinct every 24 hours but to be honest I gave up on the planet a few years back.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Tue Oct 30, 2018 1:27 pm

BigChaCha wrote:Maybe not directly but we have almost certainly lost forever plants and microbiomes that could of cured many diseases, including some cancers.

It's scary to think that 150-200 species of plants, insects, birds and mammals become extinct every 24 hours but to be honest I gave up on the planet a few years back.

We deserve our fate.

Leisure · Post by **Leisure** » Tue Oct 30, 2018 1:50 pm

Pstotto wrote:
Hurricane Smith in 71 said there was a problem, sung with good sentiment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IKC2qmSyqg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Get it re-released!

Hipper · Post by **Hipper** » Tue Oct 30, 2018 3:04 pm

The most scary thing amongst many scary things would be the loss of pollinators, like insects and some birds.

Taffy on the wing · Post by **Taffy on the wing** » Tue Oct 30, 2018 3:06 pm

BennyD wrote:Has the loss of any one of those species noticeably affected you? No, nor me.

Disgusting, self centered comments like this......are not helpful or funny.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Tue Oct 30, 2018 3:09 pm

Falcon wrote:"Don't kid yourself Jimmy, if a cow ever got the chance he'd eat you and everyone you cared about!"

I think they eat grass by choice.

Leisure · Post by **Leisure** » Tue Oct 30, 2018 3:10 pm

BennyD wrote:Has the loss of any one of those species noticeably affected you? No, nor me.

But they will in time! And hopefully you more than me!

Billy Balfour · Post by **Billy Balfour** » Tue Oct 30, 2018 3:11 pm

BennyD wrote:Has the loss of any one of those species noticeably affected you? No, nor me.

I'd be very worried if I was you, Benny. Apparently, pond life is next to go.

Somethingfishy · Post by **Somethingfishy** » Tue Oct 30, 2018 4:58 pm

If we keep losing the Honeybee in the numbers we currently are then we could face crop failures and food shortages that only the ancient Egyptians and Project Fear could dream about. (Someone had to get Brexit mentioned on this thread somehow

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BennyD · Post by **BennyD** » Tue Oct 30, 2018 5:20 pm

Billy Balfour wrote:I'd be very worried if I was you, Benny. Apparently, pond life is next to go.

Why should I be worried that Ba5tard fans are going to be extinct next.

Bosscat · Post by **Bosscat** » Tue Oct 30, 2018 6:17 pm

BennyD wrote:Why should I be worried that Ba5tard fans are going to be extinct next.

Are you saying they are bottom of the food chain

Burnley1989 · Post by **Burnley1989** » Tue Oct 30, 2018 6:59 pm

IanMcL wrote:Humans are the scourge of the Earth.

We chose to evolve, if you don’t evolve you get left behind

wickdkewlclaret · Post by **wickdkewlclaret** » Tue Oct 30, 2018 7:24 pm

BigChaCha wrote:Maybe not directly but we have almost certainly lost forever plants and microbiomes that could of cured many diseases, including some cancers.

It's scary to think that 150-200 species of plants, insects, birds and mammals become extinct every 24 hours but to be honest I gave up on the planet a few years back.

I as well.

Few years back I was seriously considering permaculture and doing talks voluntarily to make make people aware of how we are affecting the planet, re climate change tipping points etc, when the realisation of ‘we’re ******’ happened. But I wanted a job and a nice car that everyone else is entitled to, and got it.

I have fully accepted that we are screwed no matter what.

BennyD · Post by **BennyD** » Tue Oct 30, 2018 7:28 pm

Taffy on the wing wrote:Disgusting, self centered comments like this......are not helpful or funny.

Why? You haven’t answered the question I posed, and that was all I did. I didn’t offer an opinion or state facts (apart from saying their loss hasn’t affected me) I asked a question you haven’t answered so don’t be so high and mighty.

willsclarets · Post by **willsclarets** » Tue Oct 30, 2018 7:43 pm

This thread is beginning to explain why our planet and the people on it, are doomed.

BennyD · Post by **BennyD** » Tue Oct 30, 2018 8:16 pm

You are right, every one of us going to die and, one day, the planet will too. What’s your point?

Taffy on the wing · Post by **Taffy on the wing** » Wed Oct 31, 2018 2:02 am

Burnley1989 wrote:We chose to evolve, if you don’t evolve you get left behind

We have a winner!.....Stupidest post on the thread. Congratulations!

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Wed Oct 31, 2018 8:18 am

Burnley1989 wrote:We chose to evolve, if you don’t evolve you get left behind

It is the characteristics of that evolution, which is the cause for concern.

willsclarets · Post by **willsclarets** » Wed Oct 31, 2018 9:51 am

BennyD wrote:You are right, every one of us going to die and, one day, the planet will too. What’s your point?

Well the thread is based upon an article you clearly haven't read, so first off your answer is in there. There is a difference between "every one of us" and us as a collective species. The planet will naturally "die" yes, when it's engulfed by the Sun as it expands in about 4 billion years. But what has that got to do with anything that's in the article? In one sentence you've managed to misunderstood the whole problem, perhaps consciously to get a rise. Coupled with the above comment about a supposed evolutionary will, amongst others, and it's pretty clear a lot of people don't see a problem that's staring us in the face either via a lack of knowledge or interest. I find both worrying. And that's not to say I know a lot or behave in a way that's exemplary, I'm part of the problem too.

It's a big leap mentally to make, chomping away on a McDonalds hamburger and connecting it to mass cattle farming. Where do they find the land to rear the beef? What do they feed the cattle on, how do they grow that feed, and where? What lived on that land before it was farmland? What impact did that have on the ecosystem? Billions of burgers later, from one fast food giant, and you have one tiny singular example.

Our behaviour might not affect you personally, but it does affect our species and nearly every other. We seem to be miles away from making any meaningful compromises in our lives for the betterment of everyone and everything.

Pstotto · Post by **Pstotto** » Wed Oct 31, 2018 9:55 am

Yogis lived on it. Thank God for Macdonald's in India.

Dyched · Post by **Dyched** » Wed Oct 31, 2018 10:26 am

What goes around comes around.

I bought my house. The spiders that think they can come in and take residence rent free are jokers.

Burnley1989 · Post by **Burnley1989** » Fri Nov 02, 2018 7:14 am

Taffy on the wing wrote:We have a winner!.....Stupidest post on the thread. Congratulations!

It’s a joke, as if I genuinely have those sort of opinions.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Fri Nov 02, 2018 11:42 am

This little **** thinks he's something.

Bosscat · Post by **Bosscat** » Fri Nov 02, 2018 12:15 pm

Pstotto wrote:Yogis lived on it. Thank God for Macdonald's in India.

I thought Yogi lived on "Pic-a-nic Baskets" while getting one over on Ranger Smith... hey hey hey Boo-Boo

Pstotto · Post by **Pstotto** » Fri Nov 02, 2018 12:27 pm

I don't recall Yogi bear bending down to see the sun shine out of his ass and to catch the flies around it with his tongue for a protein fix.

Bosscat · Post by **Bosscat** » Fri Nov 02, 2018 12:34 pm

Pstotto wrote:I don't recall Yogi bear bending down to see the sun shine out of his ass and to catch the flies around it with his tongue for a protein fix.

Well if thats your hobby on a cold but sunny Friday afternoon enjoy... me I'm off up the Pub