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Re: Garbage

Post by bumba » Sat Nov 03, 2018 6:32 pm

The problem is Dyche cannot change from his rigid system, he always said when we get better footballers we will adapt our style but Brady, Lennon an Gudmundsson are better players than Arfield, Boyd an Kightly but our system hasn't changed Dyche is just trying to get them to change to play his system.
It's utter garbage to watch an shows no sign of changing because he isn't good enough to change it.

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Re: Garbage

Post by Wo Didi » Sat Nov 03, 2018 6:35 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:Think that was the third, second went through Harts legs

Apologies then. But it was hard to remember them all.

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Re: Garbage

Post by SkiptonClaret » Sat Nov 03, 2018 6:36 pm

For 90% of his tenure the football has been soporific, pragmatic, dull. That’s tolerable when it’s effective, when it clearly isn’t what is the point ?

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Re: Garbage

Post by lesxdp » Sat Nov 03, 2018 6:42 pm

MACCA wrote:It's West Ham FFS, you can't expect to compete with teams like this when they've spent million of pounds on players.
Have to add to that list now "The mentality was right" Certainly seems like mental to keep passing backwards.

The ref was poor.

We were good in patches

We aren't a million miles away

We will be fine when Brady and Defour get back playing

We need to start Vydra

Points will come in the next few weeks

We will get back to basics

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Re: Garbage

Post by Ooogeorgeorgeoghani » Sat Nov 03, 2018 6:43 pm

SkiptonClaret wrote:For 90% of his tenure the football has been soporific, pragmatic, dull. That’s tolerable when it’s effective, when it clearly isn’t what is the point ?
I can see he is trying to change and evolve and that's why we are where we are it's a transitional phase which all prem teams have to go through, stoke were fine until they tried to change , West Brom were fine till they tried , blackburn too got fed up of defending and now it's our turn !!
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Re: Garbage

Post by Vegas Claret » Sat Nov 03, 2018 6:46 pm

Ooogeorgeorgeoghani wrote:I can see he is trying to change and evolve and that's why we are where we are it's a transitional phase which all prem teams have to go through, stoke were fine until they tried to change , West Brom were fine till they tried , blackburn too got fed up of defending and now it's our turn !!
we aren't defending !!

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Re: Garbage

Post by Billy Balfour » Sat Nov 03, 2018 6:46 pm

I really thought we would get something today. I certainly didn't expect a hammering by the Hammers. The 4-2 scoreline flattered us. Can't see us getting anything next week, but I hope I'm wrong. We definitely need 3 points against Newcastle.
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Re: Garbage

Post by BOYSIE31 » Sat Nov 03, 2018 7:03 pm

Ooogeorgeorgeoghani wrote:Dyche is not to blame today , started with a positive team , changed the strikers early and Brady had plenty of time too , I know it's happy clappy stuff but we have to get behind the team at home it's where our points are going to come from, we all know it's not quite clicking so does the manager and the players ,so negative fans on match day will only make matters worse ,
Kind of agree both to blame but looks like they are not playing for him anymore - but players need to have a good long hard look at themselves.

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Post by Spijed » Sat Nov 03, 2018 7:05 pm

BOYSIE31 wrote:Kind of agree both to blame but looks like they are not playing for him anymore - but players need to have a good long hard look at themselves.
If they weren't playing for him would we have made any attempt to equalise twice?

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Re: Garbage

Post by Cleveleys_claret » Sat Nov 03, 2018 7:16 pm

Jimmymaccer wrote:Needs investment......like any business. And we haven’t, not enough to at least keep pace........and that’s not Dyche.

He’s trying to do a job in a highly competitive industry, where the shareholders and Board invest in “make do” players.

Ultimately ready for the Championship in my view...........but how I hope it just about keeps us in the Prem, but at this rate can’t see it.
If rumours are to be believed the board actually had signings in place but Dyche being the stubborn so and so that he is didnt want them. Butterworth had identified targets abroad which the board sanctioned but Dyche didnt.

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Re: Garbage

Post by bumba » Sat Nov 03, 2018 7:23 pm

Cleveleys_claret wrote:If rumours are to be believed the board actually had signings in place but Dyche being the stubborn so and so that he is didnt want them. Butterworth had identified targets abroad which the board sanctioned but Dyche didnt.
If this is true it should be on his head. His general recruitment has been really really poor

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Post by hampsteadclaret » Sat Nov 03, 2018 7:23 pm

Looks like ‘Granny WeatherWax ‘ or whatever it’s name is this week, is keen to be the first to mention the ‘Dyche Out’ bollux on here.

Well done you won.
Wish you would troll off somewhere else.
- who else were you previously.. please name them all?

Unity has got us through the last few years.
Look at the state of Burnley support these days, on this thread, on this forum.
Shocking and embarrassing... fickle, and in some cases clearly fans who’ve only known the Premier League.
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Re: Garbage

Post by k90bfc » Sat Nov 03, 2018 7:24 pm

We need to be much much more positive,Go with 442, and attack every game,It is much better going for one nil Up,Then Wait And See,What the best options are,2 or 3 down,then Subs too late,No Chance,See where Eddie Howe,was coming from.

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Re: Garbage

Post by Top Claret » Sat Nov 03, 2018 7:38 pm

It isn't football watching Burnley, it's whoooooch ball

We don't have an ounce of football in us, we are clueless when we have the ball, more often than not we give it away far to easily.

This really is not good enough for a top 20 English football team and changes will have to be made at the top if things don't improve

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Re: Garbage

Post by Spijed » Sat Nov 03, 2018 7:42 pm

Top Claret wrote:We don't have an ounce of football in us, we are clueless when we have the ball, more often than not we give it away far to easily.
So you didn't see the first goal for us then, or many of the fantastic goals we scored last season, or even the ones we scored against Bournemouth, this?

None of which were hoof ball, btw

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Re: Garbage

Post by THEWELLERNUT70 » Sat Nov 03, 2018 7:42 pm

Our complete lack of pace is also killing us because opposition teams know that if they press us high and try and get that vital 1st goal, we don't have the pace or quality to get in behind and cause damage. It condenses the game into our half and leads to us just lumping the ball aimlessly forward.

Rinse and repeat

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Re: Garbage

Post by Spijed » Sat Nov 03, 2018 7:45 pm

THEWELLERNUT70 wrote:we don't have the pace or quality to get in behind and cause damage.
And yet we manged to equalise twice and it was a great run and cross for nearly a third when the much maligned Taylor managed to do precisely what you've said we don't do and that's to get in behind.

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Re: Garbage

Post by Top Claret » Sat Nov 03, 2018 7:50 pm

Spijed wrote:So you didn't see the first goal for us then, or many of the fantastic goals we scored last season, or even the ones we scored against Bournemouth, this?

None of which were hoof ball, btw

You are delusional mate. Stop going on about the past that is history, its now that matters.

We are a bloody dreadful football team who offer little going forward or in defence. Our performances this year have been well below par as results confirm

The club is going backwards on the pitch were it matters

Not enough thought, time or money as been put into the squad or its management.
Our lack of any type of recruitment structure is going to cost the club dearly
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Re: Garbage

Post by beddie » Sat Nov 03, 2018 8:10 pm

To be honest we are a team of championship players and we've not really improved on that.

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Re: Garbage

Post by Boydesque » Sat Nov 03, 2018 8:21 pm

Got it in one joe

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Re: Garbage

Post by THEWELLERNUT70 » Sat Nov 03, 2018 8:38 pm

Spijed wrote:And yet we manged to equalise twice and it was a great run and cross for nearly a third when the much maligned Taylor managed to do precisely what you've said we don't do and that's to get in behind.
Coulda,woulda, shoulda. My point is still a valid one where teams consistently press us high within the open quarter of the game. It's happened since Watford at home this season where teams, after the initial salvos, visibly move 5 to 10 yards further up the pitch and condense the play

Just as a side I thought Taylor had his best game for us today

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Re: Garbage

Post by Stalbansclaret » Sat Nov 03, 2018 10:51 pm

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Re: Garbage

Post by box_of_frogs » Sat Nov 03, 2018 11:17 pm

The only good thing today was our passion and play after we’d made all 3 subs. The preceding 65 mins or so was absolutely ****.
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