Does Wood come into the reckoning.

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Does Wood come into the reckoning.

Post by jurek » Tue Nov 06, 2018 10:49 pm

Dyche may have a small dilemma. Does he start with Wood up front?
And if so as a lone striker or with either Vydra or Barnes?
And if so who in midfield?
Defour and Cork?
Assuming he'll play JBG and Brady on the flanks.

If Tarks is out then presume Long will come in and the rest as is
although some have made a case for bringing back Heaton which I don't think Dyche will.

My team would be:

Hart
Lowton Mee Long Taylor
JBG Defour, Cork (or Hendrick) Brady
Vydra, Wood

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Re: Does Wood come into the reckoning.

Post by jdrobbo » Tue Nov 06, 2018 10:55 pm

We need to get back what we’re good at: hardworking, effective pressing, midfield-covering.

We need ANOTHER clear the air meeting and players need to respect their position at the club. We as fans need to stop just looking for negatives and we need to start over.

We’ve been crap so far: the team and the fans. We all need to rally. We like a fight in Burnley so let’s bloomin’ well cut the warm up and let’s get on with the big punches!
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Re: Does Wood come into the reckoning.

Post by SGr » Tue Nov 06, 2018 11:08 pm

Chris Wood is our best striker.

With Gudmundsson AND Brady playing, he should be starting regardless of formation. Only time you start Vokes over him is if you're going for one of them turgid 4-5-1 with Jeff behind the striker games where he spends the entire 90 minutes with his back to goal.

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Re: Does Wood come into the reckoning.

Post by warksclaret » Tue Nov 06, 2018 11:08 pm

Wood must start. Same team as opening post but leave Hendrick in, take Vydra out. Play 5 in midfield and you have the option of Barnes or Vydra for last 15-20 minutes

Sam is too slow for the PL. Wood can run down the channels and is a more natural goal scorer

A 0-0 would be incredibkle result

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Re: Does Wood come into the reckoning.

Post by tiger76 » Tue Nov 06, 2018 11:11 pm

jurek wrote:Dyche may have a small dilemma. Does he start with Wood up front?
And if so as a lone striker or with either Vydra or Barnes?
And if so who in midfield?
Defour and Cork?
Assuming he'll play JBG and Brady on the flanks.

If Tarks is out then presume Long will come in and the rest as is
although some have made a case for bringing back Heaton which I don't think Dyche will.

My team would be:

Hart
Lowton Mee Long Taylor
JBG Defour, Cork (or Hendrick) Brady
Vydra, Wood
Agree with most of that i'd give Cork a rest this weekend though,he's been looking jaded the last few games.

If Vydra and Wood play up top,surely we'll have too keep the ball on the ground,and these two should provide movement and runs for Defour/ JBG/Brady to find,despite the defeat at West Ham we at least carried an attacking threat.

With our current fragility in defence,it's hard too see us keeping a clean sheet at the King Power so we may as will give it a whirl.

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Re: Does Wood come into the reckoning.

Post by NL Claret » Tue Nov 06, 2018 11:34 pm

More allowances made for Cork, jaded whereas as others are sh/t. I'm not getting what he offers, probably Hart's fault.

Last night Huddersfield had 3 midfield players that made contributions either breaking play up (Hogg) or Billing or Mooy driving them forward with pace or physicality. If only our midfield could offer something similar.

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Re: Does Wood come into the reckoning.

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Tue Nov 06, 2018 11:34 pm

When we signed Vydra I couldnt wait to see him and Wood together. However thats not happening.

Strangely, last seasons best partnership - Wood and Barnes hasnt yet been used.

I actually dont think we have much of a problem up top, its just how we feed them and pair them.

Out of all of them, Wood is probably the best finisher. Especially in one on ones.

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Re: Does Wood come into the reckoning.

Post by Vegas Claret » Tue Nov 06, 2018 11:52 pm

won't make a scrap of difference until we give them the supply, our midfield generally has been shockingly poor this season

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Re: Does Wood come into the reckoning.

Post by atlantalad » Tue Nov 06, 2018 11:57 pm

Possibly, if used as an Abacus.
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Re: Does Wood come into the reckoning.

Post by boatshed bill » Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:24 am

Hart,
Lowton, Long, Mee, Taylor,
JBG, Defour, Westwood, Hendrick, Brady,
Vokes.

There it is ;)

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Re: Does Wood come into the reckoning.

Post by SGr » Wed Nov 07, 2018 1:12 am

boatshed bill wrote:Hart,
Lowton, Long, Mee, Taylor,
JBG, Defour, Westwood, Hendrick, Brady,
Vokes.

There it is ;)
Flat 5?

Vokes lone striker?

Long?

My eyes :shock:

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Re: Does Wood come into the reckoning.

Post by Woodleyclaret » Wed Nov 07, 2018 7:48 am

Sam has a better touch and scores the unexpected goals.

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Re: Does Wood come into the reckoning.

Post by ashtonlongsider » Wed Nov 07, 2018 8:14 am

In answer to the OT a definite no from me. Play 4-5-1 both home and away with Voksey up top for me. First objective is to stop giving goals away.

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Re: Does Wood come into the reckoning.

Post by HiroshimaClaret » Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:13 am

Not in my home :(
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Re: Does Wood come into the reckoning.

Post by Quickenthetempo » Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:28 am

Anyone who has had success in this struggling side needs to play.

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Re: Does Wood come into the reckoning.

Post by jlup1980 » Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:33 am

Hart
Lowton Mee Long Taylor
JBG Defour Cork Brady
Barnes
Wood

Wood has to play but he needs the physical support and work rate Barnes provides. Brady and JBG are an absolute must. It's a decent, balanced 11 in my opinion.
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Re: Does Wood come into the reckoning.

Post by HiroshimaClaret » Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:35 am

They have pace to burn - gulp!

Hart
Lowton Long Mee Taylor
Hendrick Defour Westwood
Gudmundsson Brady
Wood
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Re: Does Wood come into the reckoning.

Post by Clevedon Claret » Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:39 am

atlantalad wrote:Possibly, if used as an Abacus.
Just signed in to like this post, miserable wet day, made me chuckle :lol:
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Re: Does Wood come into the reckoning.

Post by HiroshimaClaret » Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:44 am

jlup1980 wrote:Hart
Lowton Mee Long Taylor
JBG Defour Cork Brady
Barnes
Wood

Wood has to play but he needs the physical support and work rate Barnes provides. Brady and JBG are an absolute must. It's a decent, balanced 11 in my opinion.
If that`s Cork (2017/18) then absolutely! This season`s version we will get mullered.

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Re: Does Wood come into the reckoning.

Post by Roosterbooster » Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:15 am

Is Tarks definitely out this weekend then? We are lacking serious pace at the back against a rapid team if he is...

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Re: Does Wood come into the reckoning.

Post by Bosscat » Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:42 am

atlantalad wrote:Possibly, if used as an Abacus.
I have a Slide Rule still in my Garage ... thats made of Wood and used for reckoning......

(Just seen Clevedons reply and liked it lol)

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Re: Does Wood come into the reckoning.

Post by Mala591 » Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:45 am

4-1-4-1

Defour to play in front of back four
Westwood and Hendrick to remain in central midfield
JBG and Brady to have a more fluid role and fill no 10 position as much as possible

------------Heaton
Lowton--Long--Mee--Taylor
------------Defour
JBG--Westwood--Hendrick--Brady
------------Wood
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Re: Does Wood come into the reckoning.

Post by Corky » Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:00 pm

Surely all this is practiced and worked out in training. You know the sort of thing; right you two can play up front together and see how you get on then we will keep you on the pitch and try you up front with someone else. You get the idea, I hope. So that on match day it is not a complete surprise to the players!!!!!

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Re: Does Wood come into the reckoning.

Post by mill hill claret » Wed Nov 07, 2018 3:43 pm

wood is our best striker imo so has to start for me ..would like to see him paired with Barnes or vydra

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Re: Does Wood come into the reckoning.

Post by Colburn_Claret » Wed Nov 07, 2018 4:36 pm

As others have said, it doesn't matter who plays up front, unless we change the style of play.
Although a lot of players are performing below the standards set last season, the main reason is we have stopped doing what we were good at, as a team. that lack of team work has placed players in dangerous situations that have been punished, or left other players isolated.

I cannot for the life of me, understand why the players aren't sat down to watch a replay of our matches on a Monday morning, because the mistakes we make, individually and as a team are glaringly obvious. I know that we don't, because the next match we go out and play the same way, with the same mistakes, with the same result.

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Re: Does Wood come into the reckoning.

Post by TVC15 » Wed Nov 07, 2018 5:35 pm

Blackburnclaret wrote:wood is our best striker imo so has to start for me ..would like to see him paired with Barnes or vydra
Have you watched him much in the last few months ? The way he has played he has been our worst striker.

His decline in form is hard to work out - think it coincided with a couple of injuries and going off to play at the other side of the world in the world cup play off when he had a hamstring injury was stupid on his part. He is also not helped by the system we play and the lack of quality service.

All that said I don't know how to explain why he is not winning a lot more of the type of headers he scored from on Saturday and also how he played a few times last year when he was giving centre backs of opposing teams a really good game (he won nearly everything at Anfield for example). It also does not explain why he is offside on so many occasions - a part of his game which shows no signs of improving.

If we can get back the player of last season then I agree he probably is our best striker. I`d like to see him start a game with Vydra and with both Defour and Brady in the team to provide some quality service (and JBG). I'm not convinced this is the answer either but we are lacking some movement and pace up front and even though I think Vydra looked a bit lightweight against West Ham I think its Vydra and Wood who could run the channels the best and stretch the other teams defence.

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Re: Does Wood come into the reckoning.

Post by jrgbfc » Wed Nov 07, 2018 6:58 pm

If Wood is going to start he needs proper support and service. If he's going to be isolated upfront on his own it's a waste of time. Don't think it's a coincidence that his best spell last season came when he had Barnes up there with him to do all the dirty work and physical side of things. For a big lad Wood doesn't really seem to enjoy a physical battle with the centre halves.

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Re: Does Wood come into the reckoning.

Post by ClaretAL » Wed Nov 07, 2018 7:04 pm

I really do want Wood to be successful, but for me all we get is a workout for the linesman flagging offside. It could be argued thats because we are not releasing the ball quick enough, and Wood's thinking is quicker than those passing.

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Re: Does Wood come into the reckoning.

Post by theroyaldyche » Wed Nov 07, 2018 8:02 pm

Wood and vydra need a run

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Re: Does Wood come into the reckoning.

Post by Ooogeorgeorgeoghani » Wed Nov 07, 2018 8:03 pm

As soon as he learns the offside rule he gets a start

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Re: Does Wood come into the reckoning.

Post by ClaretEngineer » Thu Nov 08, 2018 7:41 am

Wouldn’t bother with one up front v Leicester. Might as well just have two banks of 5.

We’re gonna get walloped either way.

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