What country do you live in?

2 Bee Holed · Post by **2 Bee Holed** » Wed Nov 07, 2018 1:54 pm

Oh deary me.

For the 5th time, I live in Britain.

Bosscat · Post by **Bosscat** » Wed Nov 07, 2018 2:05 pm

2 Bee Holed wrote:Oh deary me.

For the 5th time, I live in Britain.

Britain is not a country ....
The United Kingdom is however...

You will carry a United Kingdom Passport....as in

United Kingdom
Country in Europe
The United Kingdom, made up of England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland, is an island nation in northwestern Europe. England – birthplace of Shakespeare and The Beatles – is home to the capital, London, a globally influential centre of finance and culture.

Britain as in the British Isles also covers the Republic of Ireland... and is not a country recognised by the United Nations as a Whole but "The United Kingdom" is

2 Bee Holed · Post by **2 Bee Holed** » Wed Nov 07, 2018 2:05 pm

HiroshimaClaret wrote:Is this a wind-up? `British` is NOT a country - it`s a nationality.

Settle and Yorkshire - clearly meant and taken in jest.

What the heck is nationality then?

Nationality: 'the status of belonging to a particular nation'.

Nation: 'a large body of people united by common descent, history, culture, or language, inhabiting a particular country or territory'.

I suspect I am debating with Sociologists here, who define everything differently to the rest of Society.

I still await the definition of a Country, that does not include having it's own Government!
I still cannot see how England is a Country, it does not have it's own Government.
It is in fact governed from London, by the Government of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.(i.e. the UK).
Not the Government of England.

spadesclaret · Post by **spadesclaret** » Wed Nov 07, 2018 2:06 pm

2 Bee Holed wrote:So is England a Country despite it not having a Government?

Yes, it is a country, one of the four making up the UK. It is not, however, a sovereign state.

Bosscat · Post by **Bosscat** » Wed Nov 07, 2018 2:08 pm

Isn't Pedantry a wonderful thing ....
Boom Toosh

2 Bee Holed · Post by **2 Bee Holed** » Wed Nov 07, 2018 2:13 pm

Bosscat wrote:Britain is not a country ....
The United Kingdom is however...

You will carry a United Kingdom Passport....as in

United Kingdom
Country in Europe
The United Kingdom, made up of England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland, is an island nation in northwestern Europe. England – birthplace of Shakespeare and The Beatles – is home to the capital, London, a globally influential centre of finance and culture.

Britain as in the British Isles also covers the Republic of Ireland...

Wow this is fascinating:

I carry a British Passport issued by the United Kingdom Passport Authority.
I am a British Citizen, it tells me so in my passport.
Your definition of Britain is plain wrong.
Britain is the main/large island comprising England, Scotland and Wales.
The British Isles are completely different and include many islands, some governed by Westminster and others not.

CnBtruntru · Post by **CnBtruntru** » Wed Nov 07, 2018 2:16 pm

Dunno........

2 Bee Holed · Post by **2 Bee Holed** » Wed Nov 07, 2018 2:18 pm

Oh no...Spades joining in now too!

At some point, somebody will agree that a Country must have a Government.

So perhaps those living in England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland, should answer the original question by saying,

I live in the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. I suppose that would be correct, however, I say I am British, it's easier than that mouthful! It's also probably more accurate then saying England!

CnBtruntru · Post by **CnBtruntru** » Wed Nov 07, 2018 2:21 pm

I live in the British Isles, Ireland Southern to be precise

SussexDon1inIreland · Post by **SussexDon1inIreland** » Wed Nov 07, 2018 2:25 pm

Republic of Ireland

Born in NZ

Lived most of my life in SE England returning there next year

Been a Claret for 50 years

2 Bee Holed · Post by **2 Bee Holed** » Wed Nov 07, 2018 2:33 pm

spadesclaret wrote:Yes, it is a country, one of the four making up the UK. It is not, however, a sovereign state.

Spades:

Don't bring up sovereign states. It's already complicated enough deciding which country we live in!

Falcon · Post by **Falcon** » Wed Nov 07, 2018 2:35 pm

If you'd have said 'I live in Britain' then nobody would have said owt.

However you said 'I am British' which did not answer the question.

spadesclaret · Post by **spadesclaret** » Wed Nov 07, 2018 2:39 pm

2 Bee Holed wrote:Spades: Don't bring up sovereign states. It's already complicated enough deciding which country we live in!

It's really ridiculously easy

You are just pretending to not understand. Go on - be honest

2 Bee Holed · Post by **2 Bee Holed** » Wed Nov 07, 2018 2:39 pm

Ok.... To conclude;

I live in the sovereign state of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

I am a British Citizen.

ps. Not really I live in Britain and I am British.

Tribesmen · Post by **Tribesmen** » Wed Nov 07, 2018 2:45 pm

piston broke wrote:Rep.of Ireland and very happily.

Top man PB ............... Yep Irish by the grace of Allah

2 Bee Holed · Post by **2 Bee Holed** » Wed Nov 07, 2018 2:45 pm

Falcon wrote:If you'd have said 'I live in Britain' then nobody would have said owt.

However you said 'I am British' which did not answer the question.

You mean if I had put 'I am English' I would also have had this much stick?

No, I suspect the idea of being 'British' is becoming unfashionable and my bringing it up has stirred a hornets nest.

Tribesmen · Post by **Tribesmen** » Wed Nov 07, 2018 2:46 pm

edison wrote:I live in the UK

Hummmmmmmmmmmmmm

KateR · Post by **KateR** » Wed Nov 07, 2018 2:47 pm

you don't live in Britain, there is no such place on earth, the universe.

You can live in Great Britain which is separate from Northern Island but both form part of the UK (United Kingdom)

Please don't forget you are Great

Living in the USA is always fun, when asked where I lived by a women, when I replied the UK am British, she signed shook her head and said I could have sworn you from England, errrrrr, was my reply before bursting in to laughter.

In addition from a well educated, so I thought women who told me she had been on a tour of Europe, she rattled of France/Paris/French - Italy/Rome/Italian, when she got to the UK/London she was disappointed to find out we did not have our own language!!

2 Bee Holed · Post by **2 Bee Holed** » Wed Nov 07, 2018 3:11 pm

KateR wrote:you don't live in Britain, there is no such place on earth, the universe.

You can live in Great Britain which is separate from Northern Island but both form part of the UK (United Kingdom)

Please don't forget you are Great

Britain
proper noun

The island containing England, Wales, and Scotland. The name is broadly synonymous with Great Britain, but the longer form is more usual for the political unit. See also Great Britain, United Kingdom.

Though I've had enough now KateR.
To be frank, I don't know where I live anymore and actually I am no longer sure I care!

KateR · Post by **KateR** » Wed Nov 07, 2018 3:16 pm

you stated yourself what your passport says and therefore it is where you live, taking a single word out of the eight will never do

Was only trying to remind you not only of where you live but your heritage, you have "Great'ness in you my boy, be proud, shout it from the rooftops

Gnulty · Post by **Gnulty** » Wed Nov 07, 2018 3:18 pm

Norway.

Bosscat · Post by **Bosscat** » Wed Nov 07, 2018 3:20 pm

HiroshimaClaret wrote:Is this a wind-up? `British` is NOT a country - it`s a nationality.

Settle and Yorkshire - clearly meant and taken in jest.

I thank you .... a sensible reply, cheers Hiroshima m8...

Vino blanco · Post by **Vino blanco** » Wed Nov 07, 2018 3:22 pm

Spain, on the Costa del Sol. Been going on the Turf for 67 years and hope to get back soon to get some matches in.

Falcon · Post by **Falcon** » Wed Nov 07, 2018 3:22 pm

2 Bee Holed wrote: You mean if I had put 'I am English' I would also have had this much stick?

No, I suspect the idea of being 'British' is becoming unfashionable and my bringing it up has stirred a hornets nest.

That's exactly what I mean yes. No ulterior motives. If you'd have written England, Britain or UK as answers that would have been fine.

Ignore KateR

California Colner · Post by **California Colner** » Wed Nov 07, 2018 3:24 pm

United States of America

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Wed Nov 07, 2018 3:27 pm

Spend a Lot of time in Iceland these days.

Falcon · Post by **Falcon** » Wed Nov 07, 2018 3:28 pm

tim_noone wrote:Spend a Lot of time in Iceland these days.

I prefer Aldi

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Wed Nov 07, 2018 3:31 pm

Falcon wrote:I prefer Aldi

Is that part of the uk?

UpTheClaretsFCBK · Post by **UpTheClaretsFCBK** » Wed Nov 07, 2018 3:33 pm

Moving to Thailand in January.

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Wed Nov 07, 2018 3:44 pm

2 Bee Holed wrote: You mean if I had put 'I am English' I would also have had this much stick?

No, but you'd have been arrested and thrown in jail.

ClaretDiver · Post by **ClaretDiver** » Wed Nov 07, 2018 3:46 pm

UpTheClaretsFCBK wrote:Moving to Thailand in January.

Where you moving to dude? I am leaving the UK in March for good...never shall return!

snapcrackleandpop · Post by **snapcrackleandpop** » Wed Nov 07, 2018 3:58 pm

Vino blanco wrote:Spain, on the Costa del Sol. Been going on the Turf for 67 years and hope to get back soon to get some matches in.

Vino how is Robbie doing since Scotty moved back to Scotland.

piston broke · Post by **piston broke** » Wed Nov 07, 2018 4:05 pm

snapcrackleandpop wrote:You're right Spades, only to expected though from the usual cereal offenders

So would you give a Frostie reception to the flakes.

piston broke · Post by **piston broke** » Wed Nov 07, 2018 4:10 pm

ClaretDiver wrote:Where you moving to dude? I am leaving the UK in March for good...never shall return!

I’m hoping this means that your good ladies health is improving?
If that is private just tell me to eff off. I’ll understand.

Vino blanco · Post by **Vino blanco** » Wed Nov 07, 2018 4:22 pm

Snapcrackle. Robbie is fine, still gets happily ******, mainly in the Lounge these days. He's happy at the moment because Derby are doing well,

ClaretDiver · Post by **ClaretDiver** » Wed Nov 07, 2018 5:06 pm

piston broke wrote:I’m hoping this means that your good ladies health is improving?
If that is private just tell me to eff off. I’ll understand.

No worries, she actually left me in June to go back to her family.....not heard from her since, it's been a tough few months but i am getting there!

Falcon · Post by **Falcon** » Wed Nov 07, 2018 5:11 pm

tim_noone wrote:Is that part of the uk?

If you take a wander through the aisles of the Burnley branch and taken a look at the natives you'd be forgiven for thinking you have travelled to Mordor.

piston broke · Post by **piston broke** » Wed Nov 07, 2018 5:41 pm

ClaretDiver wrote:No worries, she actually left me in June to go back to her family.....not heard from her since, it's been a tough few months but i am getting there!

Sorry to read that. Sad outcome to a dreadful situation. Hope the move is successful.

ClaretDiver · Post by **ClaretDiver** » Wed Nov 07, 2018 5:59 pm

piston broke wrote:Sorry to read that. Sad outcome to a dreadful situation. Hope the move is successful.

Cheers buddy...onwards and upwards as they say...UTC!

Jimmymaccer · Post by **Jimmymaccer** » Wed Nov 07, 2018 6:14 pm

Isle of Man....

Burnley Bank Hall born.........

PhiladelphiaChris · Post by **PhiladelphiaChris** » Wed Nov 07, 2018 6:20 pm

As in the name,near Philadelphia USA Also Burnley Bank Hall born.

Bosscat · Post by **Bosscat** » Wed Nov 07, 2018 6:33 pm

Falcon wrote:If you take a wander through the aisles of the Burnley branch and taken a look at the natives you'd be forgiven for thinking you have travelled to Mordor.

Well LotR was written near Slaidburn (Tolkien did stay at Stoneyhurst College, and used a lot of the area as settings for the Books) a lot of Tolkien names on properties in the area, certainly up "The Trough of Bowland"

snapcrackleandpop · Post by **snapcrackleandpop** » Wed Nov 07, 2018 7:34 pm

piston broke wrote:So would you give a Frostie reception to the flakes.

Frosties are Branned I’m my house.

snapcrackleandpop · Post by **snapcrackleandpop** » Wed Nov 07, 2018 7:36 pm

Vino blanco wrote:Snapcrackle. Robbie is fine, still gets happily ******, mainly in the Lounge these days. He's happy at the moment because Derby are doing well,

Good to hear - cracking lad.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Wed Nov 07, 2018 7:46 pm

USA, been here nearly 10 years now. Miss going on the Turf but nothing else !

dermotdermot · Post by **dermotdermot** » Wed Nov 07, 2018 7:47 pm

Testing

Brooky · Post by **Brooky** » Wed Nov 07, 2018 7:52 pm

Principality of Wales

Stayingup · Post by **Stayingup** » Wed Nov 07, 2018 7:52 pm

Claretpants wrote:so Burnley then?

No Blackburn

dermotdermot · Post by **dermotdermot** » Wed Nov 07, 2018 8:02 pm

Testing

africlaret · Post by **africlaret** » Wed Nov 07, 2018 8:41 pm

Republic of South Africa