Oh my god, Sterling!!

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Thu Nov 08, 2018 7:32 am

cricketfieldclarets wrote:These days are long gone.

I remember that. Back when shirts were £45 because £40 of it was made up by the amount of material used, and when they were unwanted you could donate them to an impoverished family in Africa to use as a tent.

Woodleyclaret · Post by **Woodleyclaret** » Thu Nov 08, 2018 7:41 am

Sterlings talent was never an issue
His consistency was blew hot and cold now Peps got him at the top of his gamw.Having a squad of 25 top players helps it increases pressure on anyone who falls short.Except apparently cheat Kompany

Milltown1882 · Post by **Milltown1882** » Thu Nov 08, 2018 7:52 am

The guy tripped but it’s a witch hunt because it’s Sterling. If a Burnley did this for a penalty nobody would bat an eyelid. He’s a scapegoat for everything in the media, I notice nobody will mention the absolute worldie that he scored either.

beddie · Post by **beddie** » Thu Nov 08, 2018 7:59 am

For goodness sake leave the lad alone. He tripped up, it's not his fault the ref gave a penalty. One of the best English talents we have. Incidentally wasn't the ref the same one who officiated one of our home European games (can't remember who we played) he was a character.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:01 am

beddie wrote:For goodness sake leave the lad alone. He tripped up, it's not his fault the ref gave a penalty. One of the best English talents we have. Incidentally wasn't the ref the same one who officiated one of our home European games (can't remember who we played) he was a character.

Yeah, but he runs weird. And he bought his mum a house, like a **** would do.

Lord Beamish · Post by **Lord Beamish** » Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:05 am

SGr wrote:
EDIT: Doesn’t affect Sterling being certified world class either

If only there’d have been some World Football Competition that Sterling could have showed these certificated world class skills on the stage upon, this year. He’s sure to have been a big hit.

It looks like a trip, but he has such a patchy record for his sportsmanship, that his reputation has gone before him on this.

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:30 am

Trip. If you are seeing something else you are ridiculously blinkered, most probably by your dislike of Sterling.

houseboy · Post by **houseboy** » Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:36 am

Rileybobs wrote:Looked like contact to me, he was entitled to go down.

Entitled to go down??? Are we now really saying that MOTD pundits are right when they say a player can dive if someone touches them? Entitled to go down my backside. Is football EVER going to be a man's game again?

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:38 am

I’ve not seen him go down like that since he missed that open net at the Turf last season.

Milltown1882 · Post by **Milltown1882** » Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:50 am

He apologised to the ref and Shakhtar straight after the game and reiterated he didn’t appeal or ask for a pen for it. Shocking character.

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:58 am

houseboy wrote:Entitled to go down??? Are we now really saying that MOTD pundits are right when they say a player can dive if someone touches them? Entitled to go down my backside. Is football EVER going to be a man's game again?

I was joking.

KeighleyClaret · Post by **KeighleyClaret** » Thu Nov 08, 2018 10:03 am

Two sides to this, it wasn't a pen and Sterling knew it wasn't, but he didn't appeal for it and it was given. When you step up to take a pen, as a Pro you don't want to miss it. If it had been me in a CL game I'd have blasted it! As would most anyone else.

On the other hand City were already cruising. Missing the pen would have made no difference. You might say that simply rolling it to the keeper would be disrespectful to the officials. The ref made a decision and Players often get in trouble (or yellow carded) for disputing the Referee's decision. The Ref has to stand by what he decides as do the players, good or bad.

Overall I do think perhaps Sterling might have said something, but 99% of players probably wouldn't have. The fact that Pep told the 4th official that it was a trip absolves Sterling and City from any blame on this.

The Ref however needs a serious talking to! If this was a disgrace then it was clearly the Ref's disgrace, not the players.

houseboy · Post by **houseboy** » Thu Nov 08, 2018 11:14 am

Rileybobs wrote:I was joking.

Sorry mate, I was in a sh!te mood when I got in work and decided to play Mr Angry of Accrington. Actually I only saw it this morning after I posted and if I had seen it before I would have known you couldn't have been serious. At least he had the courage to own up but it begs the question as to why a player who has obviously not been fouled can't go to the ref and say 'sorry mate, I fell'. It would be a refreshing case of honesty but the hope of ever seeing that is, I suppose, very slim.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Thu Nov 08, 2018 11:57 am

SGr wrote:Side note:

If Sterling is supposed to own up to it not being a penalty, shouldn’t every defender now own up when they take someone out in the box and it doesn’t get given??

As bad as it was thats a fair point

Vintage Claret · Post by **Vintage Claret** » Thu Nov 08, 2018 12:23 pm

Only saw the clip recently.

Although it wasn't a dive, ( he tripped himself up accidentally) and he doesn't appear to claim for a penalty he doesn't protest to the ref that it wasn't a pen either.

Apparently there wouldn't have been any point disclaiming it as "refs never change their minds"

If Sterling was a fair sportsman he could have tried (didn't stop Robbie Fowler once trying to disclaim a penalty wrongly awarded in his favour against Arsenal when he knew he hadn't been fouled)

Spike · Post by **Spike** » Thu Nov 08, 2018 12:56 pm

£1.2m a month and the clumsy galhoot falls over his own feet. The ref allegedly had 6-0 on the fixed odds

jlup1980 · Post by **jlup1980** » Thu Nov 08, 2018 1:20 pm

The annoying thing for me is the media saying it doesn't matter because they won 6 nil. You can probably argue that if it's the 5th or 6th goal but not the 2nd. The penalty gave them daylight in the game, same as the appalling 2nd against us the other week.

They're playing to different rules these days and it's a shame. The benefit of the doubt goes with them 90% of the time and it's becoming more and more difficult to give them a game because of it.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Thu Nov 08, 2018 1:52 pm

jlup1980 wrote:The annoying thing for me is the media saying it doesn't matter because they won 6 nil. You can probably argue that if it's the 5th or 6th goal but not the 2nd. The penalty gave them daylight in the game, same as the appalling 2nd against us the other week.

They're playing to different rules these days and it's a shame. The benefit of the doubt goes with them 90% of the time and it's becoming more and more difficult to give them a game because of it.

Spot on, it's crucial when it's the second. Difference last night I suppose is they shouldn't have been playing with ten men after 30 seconds.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Thu Nov 08, 2018 2:03 pm

jlup1980 wrote:The annoying thing for me is the media saying it doesn't matter because they won 6 nil. You can probably argue that if it's the 5th or 6th goal but not the 2nd. The penalty gave them daylight in the game, same as the appalling 2nd against us the other week.

They're playing to different rules these days and it's a shame. The benefit of the doubt goes with them 90% of the time and it's becoming more and more difficult to give them a game because of it.

Which I bet is why Jesus wasn't instructed to pass it back to the keeper, or put it out of play. Had they been 3-0 up, he would have been.

SGr · Post by **SGr** » Thu Nov 08, 2018 2:11 pm

Lord Beamish wrote:If only there’d have been some World Football Competition that Sterling could have showed these certificated world class skills on the stage upon, this year. He’s sure to have been a big hit.

The Champions League is a higher skill level than the World Cup.

Lord Beamish · Post by **Lord Beamish** » Thu Nov 08, 2018 3:31 pm

SGr wrote:The Champions League is a higher skill level than the World Cup.

And yet he was utterly indifferent in that.

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Thu Nov 08, 2018 3:39 pm

Vintage Claret wrote:Only saw the clip recently.

Although it wasn't a dive, ( he tripped himself up accidentally) and he doesn't appear to claim for a penalty he doesn't protest to the ref that it wasn't a pen either.

Apparently there wouldn't have been any point disclaiming it as "refs never change their minds"

If Sterling was a fair sportsman he could have tried (didn't stop Robbie Fowler once trying to disclaim a penalty wrongly awarded in his favour against Arsenal when he knew he hadn't been fouled)

Do you think Sam Vokes should have told the referee when he punched the ball in against Southampton a couple of years ago ? It’s funny I can’t remember a similar outrage on this board back then - and Sam did it deliberately !

I think what Robbie Fowler did was the exception to the rule. It would be lovely if all players did this but in reality if they receive a bit of good fortune through the incompetence of officials then they take it - and that includes our players.

Goodclaret · Post by **Goodclaret** » Thu Nov 08, 2018 4:00 pm

Amazing that we haven't had a penalty for a gazillion years and City get one like this.

I hope we are practising kicking the ground as we speak

Just get Vokes to run in to Leicesters box (ball not even required) kick the ground, fall over - penalty guaranteed.

JohnMac · Post by **JohnMac** » Thu Nov 08, 2018 4:54 pm

Although he didn't appeal, neither did he protest it was not penalty. Back in the day the ball would have been trickled to the keeper or blasted wide.

Robbie Fowler was the last player I saw 'give the ball back' when he was facing Seaman and must have given him a signal.

SGr · Post by **SGr** » Thu Nov 08, 2018 4:57 pm

Lord Beamish wrote:And yet he was utterly indifferent in that.

Good job World Cup is not the only competition in the world then isn’t it. Did you see his goal last night? World class.

basil6345789 · Post by **basil6345789** » Thu Nov 08, 2018 6:29 pm

Cheating little fat-arsed swine.

Lord Beamish · Post by **Lord Beamish** » Thu Nov 08, 2018 6:43 pm

SGr wrote:Good job World Cup is not the only competition in the world then isn’t it. Did you see his goal last night? World class.

But you said that the Champion’s s League was better than the World Cup. Surely, if he was Workd Class, he’d have shone in it.
I think Sterling shines in a stellar Team, but sinks in an ordinary one. True World Class talent lifts an ordinary team. He’s good, I’ll grant you, but to call him World Class devalues the meaning of that word for true World Class talent.

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Thu Nov 08, 2018 7:56 pm

Lord Beamish wrote:But you said that the Champion’s s League was better than the World Cup. Surely, if he was Workd Class, he’d have shone in it.
I think Sterling shines in a stellar Team, but sinks in an ordinary one. True World Class talent lifts an ordinary team. He’s good, I’ll grant you, but to call him World Class devalues the meaning of that word for true World Class talent.

How does that theory explain Messi’s average performances at multiple World Cup tournaments ? Surely he is world class ?

Plus Sterling had a decent World Cup IMHO.

This season he is up there with Hazard as the best player in the Premier League / Europe. If he keeps this up for the season he has got to be world class (or very close to)

basil6345789 · Post by **basil6345789** » Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:07 pm

He should still have turned to the ref and come clean.

Milltown1882 · Post by **Milltown1882** » Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:50 pm

Statistically one of the best players in the world in the past 12 months. That’s a fact.

Milltown1882 · Post by **Milltown1882** » Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:51 pm

Lord Beamish wrote:But you said that the Champion’s s League was better than the World Cup. Surely, if he was Workd Class, he’d have shone in it.
I think Sterling shines in a stellar Team, but sinks in an ordinary one. True World Class talent lifts an ordinary team. He’s good, I’ll grant you, but to call him World Class devalues the meaning of that word for true World Class talent.

He plays a totally different role for England than he does for City

aggi · Post by **aggi** » Thu Nov 08, 2018 10:00 pm

JohnMac wrote:Although he didn't appeal, neither did he protest it was not penalty. Back in the day the ball would have been trickled to the keeper or blasted wide.

Robbie Fowler was the last player I saw 'give the ball back' when he was facing Seaman and must have given him a signal.

That's not what happened though. Fowler said he tried to score the penalty, Seaman saved it and McAteer (I think) scored the rebound. For all the talk of how Fowler did the right thing Liverpool still scored.

SGr · Post by **SGr** » Fri Nov 09, 2018 1:35 am

Lord Beamish wrote:But you said that the Champion’s s League was better than the World Cup. Surely, if he was Workd Class, he’d have shone in it.
I think Sterling shines in a stellar Team, but sinks in an ordinary one. True World Class talent lifts an ordinary team. He’s good, I’ll grant you, but to call him World Class devalues the meaning of that word for true World Class talent.

He was by many accounts the best player on the pitch on Wednesday night, evidenced by that brilliant goal that he scored.

True World Class talent usually doesn’t play in an “ordinary” team in the first place. How many world class players can you name that don’t play for world class teams? Sterling is one of Guardiola’s key players and one of the first names on the team sheet in this stellar team you speak of. Hence why City are set to shell out 300k per week to keep the likes of Real Madrid from taking him.

There’s no devaluation in calling one of the best players, in the Premier League’s best team, who has produced fantastic numbers and influence during that time, “world class”. Too many people don’t want to believe it, because it’s Raheem Sterling.

SGr · Post by **SGr** » Fri Nov 09, 2018 1:37 am

Milltown1882 wrote:He plays a totally different role for England than he does for City

One of the unnoticed things about him actually is just how versatile he is too.

JohnMac · Post by **JohnMac** » Fri Nov 09, 2018 5:27 pm

aggi wrote:That's not what happened though. Fowler said he tried to score the penalty, Seaman saved it and McAteer (I think) scored the rebound. For all the talk of how Fowler did the right thing Liverpool still scored.

You are of course correct, funny how the mind distorts things with age.

At the time watching it live I was covinced Fowler didn't try to score and I had forgotten about Spice Boy Mac following up.

Lowbankclaret · Post by **Lowbankclaret** » Fri Nov 09, 2018 6:48 pm

After the entices against us and that trip then exaggerated dive I turned off the game and have now vowed to never watch City ever again except when I have to suffer them playing us at home.
The worse this game gets the less I want to watch it.
I didn’t watch England at the World Cup as the antics of Alli at the turf put me right off watching/supporting him.

They are making football a pantomime.

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Fri Nov 09, 2018 7:13 pm

Lowbankclaret wrote:After the entices against us and that trip then exaggerated dive I turned off the game and have now vowed to never watch City ever again except when I have to suffer them playing us at home.
The worse this game gets the less I want to watch it.
I didn’t watch England at the World Cup as the antics of Alli at the turf put me right off watching/supporting him.

They are making football a pantomime.

Comedy.

Lowbankclaret · Post by **Lowbankclaret** » Fri Nov 09, 2018 7:59 pm

You may think so, Riley but it’s only going to get worse because it’s working and they are winning by doing it.

Get in wrong refs susses you yellow

Get it right and con the ref 3 points.

Kerching

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Fri Nov 09, 2018 8:00 pm

Lowbankclaret wrote:You may think so, Riley but it’s only going to get worse because it’s working and they are winning by doing it.

Get in wrong refs susses you yellow

Get it right and con the ref 3 points.

Kerching

He tripped. How much more obvious could it be?

Lowbankclaret · Post by **Lowbankclaret** » Fri Nov 09, 2018 8:02 pm

I see no difference between Sterling and Lance Armstrong.

Both masters at cheating.

One worldwide condemnation the other it’s just part of the game, get over it.

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Fri Nov 09, 2018 8:04 pm

Lowbankclaret wrote:I see no difference between Sterling and Lance Armstrong.

Both masters at cheating.

One worldwide condemnation the other it’s just part of the game, get over it.

He.

Tripped.

Lowbankclaret · Post by **Lowbankclaret** » Fri Nov 09, 2018 8:04 pm

Rileybobs wrote:He tripped. How much more obvious could it be?

And then dived three foot in the air.

Not a normal fall in a heap.

Your defending him makes it all the more likely more players will do it next week as you think it’s ok.

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Fri Nov 09, 2018 8:07 pm

Lowbankclaret wrote:And then dived three foot in the air.

Not a normal fall in a heap.

Your defending him makes it all the more likely more players will do it next week as you think it’s ok.

Defending him from what? Tripping over? Crazy how much people will look to see what they want to see.

Milltown1882 · Post by **Milltown1882** » Fri Nov 09, 2018 8:09 pm

£300k a week deal wrapped up. Terrible player.

SGr · Post by **SGr** » Fri Nov 09, 2018 8:41 pm

Milltown1882 wrote:£300k a week deal wrapped up. Terrible player.

Can’t understand why Manchester City and their world class manager Pep Guardiola would think to give this BANG AVERAGE footballer an enormous new contract.

I mean, if they hadn’t he’d have just ended up at some average club anyway, like 12 time European champions Real Madrid.

Games gone mad, I read the Daily Mail, etc, etc, etc

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Sat Nov 10, 2018 12:47 am

Lowbankclaret wrote:And then dived three foot in the air.

Not a normal fall in a heap.

Your defending him makes it all the more likely more players will do it next week as you think it’s ok.

Is that a serious post ?
He did not dive 3 foot in the air - he tripped and fell over.
It’s ok not to like Sterling - just say that rather than fabricate stuff.