Jeremy Corbyn

[John Johnson 1605]

Derek Hatton was always well turned out.

[Rowls]

For some people, looking good is more important than being good.

That’s the only reason Jeremy trims his beard.

[Healeywoodclaret]

You're a moron.
Grow up.

Usual charming brainless self I see.

[AndrewJB]

What's wrong with ASDA stuff...what are you a champagne socialist ? I'm a fully paid up member too but I'm more interested in what comes out of the guys mouth than his sartorial inelegance...having said that I rue the day we got him...we should be out of sight in the polls .

I know more than a few Labour people who wish someone else had been elected as leader, but who? Whichever other candidate would have faced the same press opposition - unless they swung Labour somehow to the right of the Tories (not necessarily wholly, but with some strong anti-immigrant, and austerity messages that papers like the Sun could only agree with), and that would have taken the wind out of the sails of all the people joining the party to make a difference. Labour's strength is in having activists who can knock on doors. The right-wing press ridiculed Ed Miliband - who had no skeletons in closets, was a fairly regular guy, wasn't un-presentable, and yet gave us policies hardly different to Tory ones. And he was trounced. I'd much rather have someone willing and able to stand up to the press, and be themselves, while offering up a radical alternative to the utter rubbish the Tories have given us these last eight or so years.

Yes, Labour are behind, or only slightly in front in the polls, but an election changes the rules in how the press report, and as we saw last time, people tend to like what Labour say (rather than what the press say Labour says). Another twenty percent swing of the vote would see Labour in with a landslide. At least we're (I'm Green, but on your side) not starting from a position of twenty points behind, like last time. It's a long game, but worth it.

[randomclaret2]

I thought he looked relatively smart, for a retired Polytechnic Sociology tutor

[CardyTheClaret]

Why don't you resign from the Party then?

Is the poliitical version of the ‘why don’t you go and support Blackburn then?’

[UpTheClaretsFCBK]

If you believe that wearing a nice suit and jacket and how big your poppy is, are defining qualities in what makes a good prime minister, you have an IQ similar to, but not exceeding, that of a loaf of bread.

[Paul Waine]

I know more than a few Labour people who wish someone else had been elected as leader, but who? Whichever other candidate would have faced the same press opposition - unless they swung Labour somehow to the right of the Tories (not necessarily wholly, but with some strong anti-immigrant, and austerity messages that papers like the Sun could only agree with), and that would have taken the wind out of the sails of all the people joining the party to make a difference. Labour's strength is in having activists who can knock on doors. The right-wing press ridiculed Ed Miliband - who had no skeletons in closets, was a fairly regular guy, wasn't un-presentable, and yet gave us policies hardly different to Tory ones. And he was trounced. I'd much rather have someone willing and able to stand up to the press, and be themselves, while offering up a radical alternative to the utter rubbish the Tories have given us these last eight or so years.

Yes, Labour are behind, or only slightly in front in the polls, but an election changes the rules in how the press report, and as we saw last time, people tend to like what Labour say (rather than what the press say Labour says). Another twenty percent swing of the vote would see Labour in with a landslide. At least we're (I'm Green, but on your side) not starting from a position of twenty points behind, like last time. It's a long game, but worth it.

Hi Andrew,

Who could lead the Labour Party rather than Jeremy Corbyn? Well, he was only added to the leadership election ballot to balance all the "left of centre" candidates (if you will accept that term). And, anyone who knew anything about JC over his time in politics knew that he waa a maverick within how own party - and, if nothing else, not a unifying candidate. And, his meetings with "terrorists sympathising groups" - I can't remember JC saying that he was only meeting with them in the pursuit of peace.

You mention Ed Milliband, maybe his brother David would have been a successful leader? Maybe Yvette Cooper? Maybe Andy Burnham - though he probably needed a few more years to build his experience. (I admire him for going for mayor of Manchester, rather than an MP). And, I'm sure there are others that would be closer to the centre and so better able to win an election.....

[boatshed bill]

Little Britain in full swing here then.

[Lancasterclaret]

I've no idea whether an election campaign would swing JC into power, but I do know that for millions we'd be voting for the least worst choice.

Which is not how democracy is supposed to be.

[South West Claret.]

Well If that is the case LC I suggest that those millions start to wise up and double quick to voting tactically if they want to first of all get rid of this dreadful excuse of a government!

[evensteadiereddie]

Usual charming brainless self I see.

Says the gormless prat who refers to Corbyn as a "creature".............

[ClaretRock]

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Seems to start mid sentence so you can't get the context and still he doesn't actually say he personally condemns it.

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There you go IT if you were struggling to find it.

[ashtonlongsider]

Unfortunately we live in a world, age and time where image is everything. 'Style over substance' comes to mind. If you've not got the right profile your not going to get far. The various PR machines will see to that.

[Healeywoodclaret]

To be fair I'm surprised the tw@ turned up to it.

Didn't turn up at The Royal Albert Hall Festival of Remembrance though did he?

[AndrewJB]

Hi Andrew,

Who could lead the Labour Party rather than Jeremy Corbyn? Well, he was only added to the leadership election ballot to balance all the "left of centre" candidates (if you will accept that term). And, anyone who knew anything about JC over his time in politics knew that he waa a maverick within how own party - and, if nothing else, not a unifying candidate. And, his meetings with "terrorists sympathising groups" - I can't remember JC saying that he was only meeting with them in the pursuit of peace.

You mention Ed Milliband, maybe his brother David would have been a successful leader? Maybe Yvette Cooper? Maybe Andy Burnham - though he probably needed a few more years to build his experience. (I admire him for going for mayor of Manchester, rather than an MP). And, I'm sure there are others that would be closer to the centre and so better able to win an election.....

Paul - I think Dominic Grieve would be an excellent Tory leader. He’d end Brexit, have a more humane approach to welfare, and likely take a more pragmatic approach to taxing the rich. And for the reasons I’ve given he’s unlikely to ever become Tory leader.

[Lancasterclaret]

Aye, there is more chance of Nadine Dorris becoming Tory Leader than any of the moderate ones.

[RocketLawnChair]

What do you expect when It's Dianne Abbott who gets him dressed in the morning.

I thought it was David Blunkett.

[RingoMcCartney]

To be fair to jeremy, he's more used to being in a hotter climate when he's laying a reef....

[Falcon]

Threads like these really do make me think the Russian bots have taken over.

[Lancasterclaret]

Post truth ******** is all the rage these days.

People just make stuff up and believe it, without a care in the world.

[ClaretMoffitt]

To be fair to jeremy, he's more used to being in a hotter climate when he's laying a reef....

[The Enclosure]

If he cant be arsed making an effort with his appearance then he probably couldnt be arsed leading a government properly......a horrible little man.

[JohnMcGreal]

I bet he can't eat a bacon sandwich properly, either! He shouldn't be let anywhere near number 10!












Am I doing this right?

[nil_desperandum]

I bet he can't eat a bacon sandwich properly, either! He shouldn't be let anywhere near number 10!

Unless he learns to dance, in which case he'll be a much more credible candidate.

[Lancasterclaret]

I don't get why people just don't attack him for stuff he gets very wrong, rather than his dress sense.

He's as easy target on everything to be perfectly honest

[Bacchus]

Well If that is the case LC I suggest that those millions start to wise up and double quick to voting tactically if they want to first of all get rid of this dreadful excuse of a government!

Unfortunately tactical voting only works in a handful of constituencies. I lent Labour my vote last year in a futile attempt to oust the abysmal Nigel Evans and they came nowhere near. I 'll just vote with my conscience in future however much of a wasted vote it might be.

[Imploding Turtle]

Seems to start mid sentence so you can't get the context and still he doesn't actually say he personally condemns it.

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There you go IT if you were struggling to find it.

"Whist obviously condemning the bombing campaigns in Britain, it is important to be able to talk to Sinn Fein"
How much more clear can he be? Who the **** do you think he's talking about?

By all means criticise him for his political views, but stop with this bullshit. It's pathetic and only makes you look like an idiot. And i'm sure you're not.

[Spijed]

If only Jeremy Corbyn was as immaculately dressed as Donald Trump was when he went to visit the US military cemetery.

[Rowls]

I bet he can't eat a bacon sandwich properly, either! He shouldn't be let anywhere near number 10!

Am I doing this right?

No.

You’ve got it all wrong.

You don’t appear to understand the difference between conscious and subconscious reasoning.

The only people who ever talk about the bacon sandwich thing as if it weee a decision of conscious reasoning were supporters of Milliband - the people who’d vote for him anyway.

Also, Bacon Sandwich-Gate was 2014. Maybe time to let this one go?

[Rick_Muller]

Aye, there is more chance of Nadine Dorris becoming Tory Leader than any of the moderate ones.

She's my current MP - and bloody useless at it from my perspective... but she looks nice and is well dressed I suppose...

[Lancasterclaret]

She's also batshit mental, which would normally rule her out of the Conservative Party leadership.

Normally

[Erasmus]

A lot of extreme views on Corbyn here, but none that I can see that criticise the policies he is advocating. I wonder why that is. Oh, and he's not a communist but a social democrat, there is a huge distinction between the two.

[houseboy]

What a scruff. The jacket he wore for the remembrance ceremony at the cenotaph wasn’t even black and it looked like he’d bought it from ASDA. To think people want him to be the person who leads us and represents us on the international stage. God at least Trump makes an effort.

Presentation matters.

But buying things from Asda keeps ordinary people in work. I am a great believer in the content being more important than the packaging.

[houseboy]

The old goat
ASDA? More like the charity shop.

He's a communist t!t.

As opposed to a right wing t!t?

[houseboy]

Which is probably a large reason as to why he was a tremendous galvanizer of a nation; image, whether you like it or not is important.

So in your eyes it's 1-0 to Hitler then? Well done.

[Lancasterclaret]

"Tremendous galvanizer of a nation" is the new "well at least the trains ran on time"

[houseboy]

Teresa is not exactly blessed with dress sense.Her jackets have sleeves 6ins too short and are about 2 suzes too small.She reminds me of a kid who picked the wrong coat up at home time
Corbyn needs a shave and get over the open neck shirt look.Certain occasions call for a tie and it diesnt make you less of the peoples man by weaeing a tie.
The wearing of his charity shop jacket to the Remembrance celebrations did him no favours.

You're right about May, her clothes don't fit.
About Corbyn though, if he wants to sport a beard why shouldn't he? It's a (supposedly) free world. As for ties, they are the most ridiculous piece of 'clothing' ever invented, they have no purpose, are potentially dangerous in some environments and just look plain daft. I will never wear one unless forced to do so. I worked in an office environment a few years ago and was moaned at for not wearing a tie, I said I would gladly oblige if they made the women wear them too. I was never pulled up about it again.
I know people have different views about what looks right and wrong but I believe you should wear what you feel right with, not what fashion or appearance say you should.

[houseboy]

Indeed he did .... however Mussolini, Hirohito, and Hitler were vehement non-smokers, whereas Churchill, Roosevelt and Gen.Eisenhower all smoked like the proverbial chimney but I wouldn't cast all non-smokers as inherently evil ....

Corbyn is however a " dangerous idiot ", who shouldn't be let anywhere near the levers of power !!

In your opinion.

[houseboy]

The bloke is an absolute disgrace to our country.

Why?

[houseboy]

There are some planks on here

I am not Corbyns biggest fan but he was there and he paid his respects. What more do you want?

Like the prats who get offended because he doesn’t sing God save the queen. So what? He doesn’t believe in god or the monarchy, so what.

Get a grip. You’re making out like he’s purposely making life difficult for disabled people so they would rather die. Oh

Precisely. I never sing the national anthem because it is a misnomer, it's not a national anthem it's an anthem to the bloody queen and I, like Corbyn, am an anti-royalist. Actually I was thinking yesterday as the bands played at the cenotaph why do we have this bloody dirge for an anthem, I think Rule Britannia is more appropriate, it's less depressing and I think would lift people far more. No wonder England don't do well at world cups, imagine having to stand through that depressing rot before every game.

[houseboy]

If he cant be arsed making an effort with his appearance then he probably couldnt be arsed leading a government properly......a horrible little man.

What a strange and uninformed conclusion.

[Spijed]

For those who don't like the way Jeremy Corbyn dresses I presume you are equally offended with the way Boris Johnson looks after his hair.

If not, you are hypocrites!

[Devils_Advocate]

The Roast of The Bee Hole End numpties hosted by houseboy.....go on lad stick it to them dipsticks!!

[JohnMcGreal]

No.

You’ve got it all wrong.

You don’t appear to understand the difference between conscious and subconscious reasoning.

The only people who ever talk about the bacon sandwich thing as if it weee a decision of conscious reasoning were supporters of Milliband - the people who’d vote for him anyway.

Also, Bacon Sandwich-Gate was 2014. Maybe time to let this one go?

Bacon Sandwich-Gate was indeed in 2014, and was the first installment of the cheap (but popular) 'Smear the Labour Leader' franchise. Many sequels are available at your nearest right-wing open sewer.

I'll just echo what others have said. There are plenty of legitimate arguments you can make against Corbyn and his politics, and I'd even agree with some of them myself.

To take potshots at his cheap coat while he's laying a wreath for the war dead is just a bit pathetic, that's all.

[AndrewJB]

Precisely. I never sing the national anthem because it is a misnomer, it's not a national anthem it's an anthem to the bloody queen and I, like Corbyn, am an anti-royalist. Actually I was thinking yesterday as the bands played at the cenotaph why do we have this bloody dirge for an anthem, I think Rule Britannia is more appropriate, it's less depressing and I think would lift people far more. No wonder England don't do well at world cups, imagine having to stand through that depressing rot before every game.

Never been a big fan of God Save the Queen either, though I’d prefer Land of Hope and Glory, or Jerusalem as a replacement.

[Taffy on the wing]

What a scruff. The jacket he wore for the remembrance ceremony at the cenotaph wasn’t even black and it looked like he’d bought it from ASDA. To think people want him to be the person who leads us and represents us on the international stage. God at least Trump makes an effort.

Presentation matters.

What a pathetic person you are!

[Taffy on the wing]

Just the fact that you/we are all talking/arguing about this non event, means Rupert Murdoch and his ilk have won again!

[AndrewJB]

She's my current MP - and bloody useless at it from my perspective... but she looks nice and is well dressed I suppose...

Most women I know have said they would never consider getting it on with a man who holds right wing views, but for me Dorries, Palin, Fransen, the woman who runs AfD, and a few others hold a profoundly unhealthy hold over part of my imagination. I suppose as long as it’s only physical...

[Lancasterclaret]

Right wing ******.......