Scudamore - I hope we told them to do one

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Re: Scudamore - I hope we told them to do one

Post by Ashingtonclaret46 » Fri Nov 16, 2018 12:40 pm

It appears that the money is coming out of the Central Fund which is normally used for distributing funds amongst the clubs, therefore, they take the money out before distributing any of it to any club.
There was no vote on the decision at all and, because of the above arrangement, every club will contribute.
It is the PL looking after its own interests --as it always has done. We, as a club, are part of that establishment at the moment, therefore we have to adhere to their rules whether we like it or not.
I do not agree with this payment, however, it will not stop my attending matches because my days of protest are long gone ----they never did any good anyway.
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Re: Scudamore - I hope we told them to do one

Post by NL Claret » Fri Nov 16, 2018 1:49 pm

Ashingtonclaret46 wrote:It appears that the money is coming out of the Central Fund which is normally used for distributing funds amongst the clubs, therefore, they take the money out before distributing any of it to any club.
There was no vote on the decision at all and, because of the above arrangement, every club will contribute.
It is the PL looking after its own interests --as it always has done. We, as a club, are part of that establishment at the moment, therefore we have to adhere to their rules whether we like it or not.
I do not agree with this payment, however, it will not stop my attending matches because my days of protest are long gone ----they never did any good anyway.

It sounds to me, I maybe wrong, that scudamore has the PL over a barrel and to not pay him off would cost them more in the long run either in TV cash or an expensive legal battle which would cost more than £5m.

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Post by bfccrazy » Fri Nov 16, 2018 1:50 pm

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:Imagine getting out the top tier in an emergency if below you can't be accessed. There is always things to improve, but if you feel it is unsafe perhaps be wiser to go in another stand.
It is fairly obvious nothing will be done to that stand until "safe" standing is allowed so that is how it is. I bet when you were going in there when it first opened and there was an atmosphere from that end you never stood there thinking what if there is an emergency.
I’ve thought it years, I’ll go in that stand as my mates are in there and I enjoy it. Evacuating the stand has been a problem going back to when the police steamed into Burnley fans after the bast*rds game in the first season it was split and it bottlenecked down the gangways as people tried to get away (I get they should have left earlier).

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Post by Rumbletonk » Fri Nov 16, 2018 3:30 pm

It's not Scudamore that deserves the anger. He was just doing what club owners asked of him. Get us more money. They couldn't give a crap about the game or the fans. Bottom line, end of story.

It makes my blood boil thinking of a bunch of Yanks, Arabs and Chinese money men plotting how to manoeuvre a Euro elite league

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Post by cricketfieldclarets » Fri Nov 16, 2018 3:45 pm

dsr wrote:In an emergency you would go down to the front of the stand and onto the pitch.
You will have a job if you are in the middle of the pile downstairs!

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Re: Scudamore - I hope we told them to do one

Post by Shore claret » Fri Nov 16, 2018 3:50 pm

Imagine what the new person is thinking, nice easy job and when its time to go I will get a nice cushy pay off, as del boy would say lovely jubbly.
Jobs for the boys and if you scratch my back and I will gold plate yours.

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Post by cricketfieldclarets » Fri Nov 16, 2018 3:53 pm

Shore claret wrote:Imagine what the new person is thinking, nice easy job and when its time to go I will get a nice cushy pay off, as del boy would say lovely jubbly.
Jobs for the boys and if you scratch my back and I will gold plate yours.
I am sure its far from an easy job. You dont earn millions per year and get a £5m retirement bonus for a nice easy job.

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Post by Shore claret » Fri Nov 16, 2018 4:01 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:I am sure its far from an easy job. You dont earn millions per year and get a £5m retirement bonus for a nice easy job.
I bet its not that the hardest job in the world, a product everyone wants cant be the hardest sell in the world.

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Post by cricketfieldclarets » Fri Nov 16, 2018 4:05 pm

Shore claret wrote:I bet its not that the hardest job in the world, a product everyone wants cant be the hardest sell in the world.
Get your application in!

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Post by Bordeauxclaret » Fri Nov 16, 2018 4:09 pm

There isn’t a vacancy.

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Post by Rumbletonk » Fri Nov 16, 2018 4:12 pm

Shore claret wrote:I bet its not that the hardest job in the world, a product everyone wants cant be the hardest sell in the world.
Imagine having to manage not one billionaire's ego but about 20 of them. He obviously earned some serious coin but I bet he wanted to headbutt one of them at least 3 times a day

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Post by Shore claret » Fri Nov 16, 2018 4:13 pm

That job has long gone, she will be currently sat in a bath of asses milk laughing, being fanned by a couple of eunuchs with giant fronds.

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Post by Silkyskills1 » Fri Nov 16, 2018 4:17 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:I am sure its far from an easy job. You dont earn millions per year and get a £5m retirement bonus for a nice easy job.
My dad didn't have an easy job. 12 hour shifts in a cotton mill starting at 6 am every day as well as six more hours on a Saturday morning. He didn't earn much either and didn't receive anything extra when he left the job. You are talking some utter shite here.

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Post by Rumbletonk » Fri Nov 16, 2018 4:22 pm

Silkyskills1 wrote:My dad didn't have an easy job. 12 hour shifts in a cotton mill starting at 6 am every day as well as six more hours on a Saturday morning. He didn't earn much either and didn't receive anything extra when he left the job. You are talking some utter shite here.
Fair play to your Dad but what has that got to do with anything. He obviously worked his balls off all his life but he didn't generate billions of pounds for a bunch of fat greedy money men
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Post by cricketfieldclarets » Fri Nov 16, 2018 4:25 pm

Silkyskills1 wrote:My dad didn't have an easy job. 12 hour shifts in a cotton mill starting at 6 am every day as well as six more hours on a Saturday morning. He didn't earn much either and didn't receive anything extra when he left the job. You are talking some utter shite here.
Fair play. But thats not how business works is it.

If it was an easy job we would all be doing that instead of doing 12 hour shifts a chimney sweeps!

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Post by kentonclaret » Fri Nov 16, 2018 4:59 pm

Pales in comparison to the bonus paid to the Persimmon Homes boss last month amounting to £75m.

When there was the inevitable outcry he promptly resigned taking his bonus with him. :o

Why wouldn't he? :lol:

Will people stop buying homes from Persimmon in protest? I doubt it.
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Re: Scudamore - I hope we told them to do one

Post by Ashingtonclaret46 » Fri Nov 16, 2018 5:47 pm

kentonclaret wrote:Pales in comparison to the bonus paid to the Persimmon Homes boss last month amounting to £75m.

When there was the inevitable outcry he promptly resigned taking his bonus with him. :o

Why wouldn't he? :lol:

Will people stop buying homes from Persimmon in protest? I doubt it.
No, they will still buy houses although I have heard that quite a few people are going round to chant outside the houses just to let him know what they think. :)

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Post by Silkyskills1 » Fri Nov 16, 2018 6:00 pm

You more than imply that a 'not easy job' earns £millions. I disagree.

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Post by cricketfieldclarets » Fri Nov 16, 2018 6:31 pm

Silkyskills1 wrote:You more than imply that a 'not easy job' earns £millions. I disagree.
You arent making sense.

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Post by LlandennyClaret » Fri Nov 16, 2018 6:38 pm

Are we the only club to have put out a formal statement on this? Had a quick look at a few others and none of those clubs had issued anything. Odd if that’s the case. :?: :roll:

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Post by Silkyskills1 » Fri Nov 16, 2018 7:12 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:You arent making sense.
I'll try and simplify it for you. You have said that if a job is 'not an easy job' the rewards are in the £millions. I said I disagree which was based on the 'not easy job' carried out by my father for which he received a pittance and no golden handshake or presumably any form of handshake at the end.

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Post by Ayamonte » Fri Nov 16, 2018 7:17 pm

Crazy, obscene, disgusting. One of the main reason why I am falling out with football rapidly. If he was on a salary + bonus of 2.5 million a year was he not already ridiculously remunerated ??? He was paid to do a job. We all get paid to do a job. I worked with Richard in 1986 when he was a sales manager at Yellow Pages, not that that has any relevance other than he has done exceptionally well to get where he is today but there can be no justification for a payment like this.

....and then you have Sterling signing a new contract that will pay him £300,000 a week for kicking a f*****g football!......now say that to yourself a little slower.....£300,000 A WEEK!!!!! Someone earning 25k a week would take them 12 YEARS to earn £300,000......or put another way 624 WEEKS!!!

£300,000 a week over 12 years equates to...wait for it.......£187,2000,000.

The world's gone bloody mad!! I think I want to get off.
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Post by Ashingtonclaret46 » Fri Nov 16, 2018 7:24 pm

Ayamonte wrote:Crazy, obscene, disgusting. One of the main reason why I am falling out with football rapidly. If he was on a salary + bonus of 2.5 million a year was he not already ridiculously remunerated ??? He was paid to do a job. We all get paid to do a job. I worked with Richard in 1986 when he was a sales manager at Yellow Pages, not that that has any relevance other than he has done exceptionally well to get where he is today but there can be no justification for a payment like this.

....and then you have Sterling signing a new contract that will pay him £300,000 a week for kicking a f*****g football!......now say that to yourself a little slower.....£300,000 A WEEK!!!!! Someone earning 25k a week would take them 12 YEARS to earn £300,000......or put another way 624 WEEKS!!!

£300,000 a week over 12 years equates to...wait for it.......£187,2000,000.

The world's gone bloody mad!! I think I want to get off.
A painting sells for £70 Million in the same week that some old jewellery went for £53 Million ---yes, the world has gone mad but it has left some of us holding on to our sanity and putting things into perspective.

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Post by Rumbletonk » Fri Nov 16, 2018 7:36 pm

I miss Sepp Blatter. A man's villain. He had the decency to laugh in your face and call you a knob whilst robbing and taking the p1ss
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Post by Bin Ont Turf » Fri Nov 16, 2018 7:58 pm

I'd sooner we put the money in a pile and set fire to it.
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Post by cricketfieldclarets » Fri Nov 16, 2018 8:02 pm

Silkyskills1 wrote:I'll try and simplify it for you. You have said that if a job is 'not an easy job' the rewards are in the £millions. I said I disagree which was based on the 'not easy job' carried out by my father for which he received a pittance and no golden handshake or presumably any form of handshake at the end.
You still arent making sense. And i dont want to undermine the hard work your father clearly did. The fact is though it was an unskilled job and if he didnt do it someone else would.

If heading up a multi billion pound organisation and taking it to new levels of success is easy why not throw your hat in the ring?
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Post by timshorts » Fri Nov 16, 2018 8:41 pm

Ashingtonclaret46 wrote:A painting sells for £70 Million in the same week that some old jewellery went for £53 Million ---yes, the world has gone mad but it has left some of us holding on to our sanity and putting things into perspective.
I thought the picture was pretty crap too. Sort of thing you'd see at a local art club but a bit bigger.

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Post by Silkyskills1 » Fri Nov 16, 2018 8:49 pm

We're at an impasse here on interpretations. I'm fine with that but less so on the patronising tone.
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Post by Rumbletonk » Fri Nov 16, 2018 8:56 pm

Silkyskills1 wrote:We're at an impasse here on interpretations. I'm fine with that but less so on the patronising tone.
There's no pleasing you as you flounce of in a big huff
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Post by Devils_Advocate » Fri Nov 16, 2018 9:00 pm

Bin Ont Turf wrote:I'd sooner we put the money in a pile and set fire to it.
We've already tried that one with signing Jon Walters
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Post by MACCA » Fri Nov 16, 2018 9:25 pm

Ayamonte wrote:!! Someone earning 25k a week would take them 12 YEARS to earn £300,000......or put another way 624 WEEKS!!!

I disagree.

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Post by dsr » Fri Nov 16, 2018 11:43 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:You still arent making sense. And i dont want to undermine the hard work your father clearly did. The fact is though it was an unskilled job and if he didnt do it someone else would.

If heading up a multi billion pound organisation and taking it to new levels of success is easy why not throw your hat in the ring?
That's Scudamore's position too. All he had to do was negotiate a new TV deal - that was his job. He's like Pogba's agent who made £40+ million for arranging the sale of Pogba from a club that wanted to sell him, to a club that wanted to buy him, when Pogba wanted to go. It's vastly overpayment for a straightforward job.

As for the rest of his job description, it could be summed up fairly simply. He had to persuade the 14 other clubs to do what the "big 6" wanted to do. Scudamore was never the boss boss, because if he displeased the big 6, he would be out on his ear. He didn't displease the big 6, so that is why they wanted to give him a sweetener on leaving.
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Post by cricketfieldclarets » Fri Nov 16, 2018 11:55 pm

dsr wrote:That's Scudamore's position too. All he had to do was negotiate a new TV deal - that was his job. He's like Pogba's agent who made £40+ million for arranging the sale of Pogba from a club that wanted to sell him, to a club that wanted to buy him, when Pogba wanted to go. It's vastly overpayment for a straightforward job.

As for the rest of his job description, it could be summed up fairly simply. He had to persuade the 14 other clubs to do what the "big 6" wanted to do. Scudamore was never the boss boss, because if he displeased the big 6, he would be out on his ear. He didn't displease the big 6, so that is why they wanted to give him a sweetener on leaving.
Sounds simple.

Where do I apply...

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Post by RammyClaret61 » Sat Nov 17, 2018 2:24 am

My thoughts on this are, if they wanted to give him a sendoff payment. Why does it just have to be the 20 clubs in the Premier now? Clubs like us and Bournemouth etc, who have been here 10 minutes paying the same amount that Man Utd do after 27 years of premier riches. Blackburn & Bolton 18 & 13 years respectively pay nowt. They could’ve worked it on seasons. 27 seasons x 20 clubs = 540 if each club paid £10,000 per season, ie; Burnley £50k, Blackburn £180k etc etc. he’d have got his £5m and everyone would’ve contributed evenly, including Blackpool with £10k.

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Post by 4:20 » Sat Nov 17, 2018 5:04 am

Football's gone to the dogs, this is it for me, I shan't be renewing my Sportsmania subscription.
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Post by Chester Perry » Sun Nov 18, 2018 6:13 pm

Basically it is down to the non compete - oh and the brass comes from the central pot not from the clubs individually

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/20 ... g-la-liga/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sun Nov 18, 2018 7:05 pm

RammyClaret61 wrote:My thoughts on this are, if they wanted to give him a sendoff payment. Why does it just have to be the 20 clubs in the Premier now? Clubs like us and Bournemouth etc, who have been here 10 minutes paying the same amount that Man Utd do after 27 years of premier riches. Blackburn & Bolton 18 & 13 years respectively pay nowt. They could’ve worked it on seasons. 27 seasons x 20 clubs = 540 if each club paid £10,000 per season, ie; Burnley £50k, Blackburn £180k etc etc. he’d have got his £5m and everyone would’ve contributed evenly, including Blackpool with £10k.
Weve probably earnt more in the last three seasons than blackburn did in 18.

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Post by NL Claret » Sun Nov 18, 2018 8:03 pm

Chester Perry wrote:Basically it is down to the non compete - oh and the brass comes from the central pot not from the clubs individually

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/20 ... g-la-liga/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Wonder how many fans will be calling the club in the morning to reinstate their direct debits?
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