How long for Theresa May?

Melbourneclaret · Post by **Melbourneclaret** » Thu Nov 15, 2018 10:50 am

I’m glad I don’t live in uk anymore. Good luck everybody.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Thu Nov 15, 2018 10:51 am

Ha!

She's trying to keep the country together, trying to enact the referendum result, trying to keep business happy

Impossible job

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Thu Nov 15, 2018 10:53 am

The one with the economic disaster
The one with the empty cabinet
The one with the general election

We could get a whole series out of this.

LoveCurryPies · Post by **LoveCurryPies** » Thu Nov 15, 2018 10:53 am

hampsteadclaret wrote:Jockeying for position now, for a PM job down the line.

Liam Fox...
Gove..?
Thinking of themselves, rather than the country.
A proper shambles.

Absolutely! David Davies, Jeremy Hunt and even Boris will be lining up to take their chance as leader.

Personally, I am hoping the MP for West Aberdeenshire and Kincardine is given the job. About time we had Prime Minister Bowie.

Pstotto · Post by **Pstotto** » Thu Nov 15, 2018 10:59 am

She's a Remainer so she hasn't a Brexit vision.

She's trying to make a silly plan so that it will fail and then they can stop Brexit because they can't work it out.

It's like a naughty child building a way of being around protecting a lie.

She's trying to please others rather than setting out England's interests and then everyone has to adjust to our way. No compromises.

In woodwork, you cannot measure something from every angle, so you start off with a face side and a square edge and go from there.

It's all about the Good Friday Agreement which has damn all to do with England.

I demand a vote as an Englishman, to kick N.Ireland out of the Union.

Things have moved on. They can't expect a soft border with a foreign state. It's madness. They have no conviction and are kow-towing to backward peasants from the bog, our whole nation.

It needs a man with conviction and a Brexiteer with a vision to have the ruthless statesmanship and tenacity to see this through.

I hope she goes today.

She should never have been appointed.

Tribesmen · Post by **Tribesmen** » Thu Nov 15, 2018 11:18 am

[quote="Pstotto"]

It's all about the Good Friday Agreement which has damn all to do with England.

I demand a vote as an Englishman, to kick N.Ireland out of the Union.

Things have moved on. They can't expect a soft border with a foreign state. It's madness. They have no conviction and are kow-towing to backward peasants from the bog, our whole nation.

quote]
Hummmmm interesting view you have

Claret-On-A-T-Rex · Post by **Claret-On-A-T-Rex** » Thu Nov 15, 2018 11:36 am

It's a brilliant Brexit deal, far better than I could have imagined.
My favourite bit is the bit where you leave the EU but still pay the EU, still have to take orders from the EU and have to get permission from the EU when to stop this all while having absolutely no say in anything the EU does ever again.
It's like being the slave of the EU and paying for it too!
This awesome deal is nothing less than the Leave voters of the UK deserve.
You won, get over it.

JohnMcGreal · Post by **JohnMcGreal** » Thu Nov 15, 2018 11:37 am

Imploding Turtle wrote:The one with the economic disaster
The one with the empty cabinet
The one with the general election

We could get a whole series out of this.]

The one when medicine ran out.

biggles · Post by **biggles** » Thu Nov 15, 2018 11:56 am

Bordeauxclaret wrote:Brexit is going that badly people are feeling sorry for Theresa May.
If ever proof was needed that it’s an absolute farce.

i don't think she's helped herself, tbh. seems to be a poor negotiator conceding too much to the EU mafia. she's making a hash of Brexit.

Melbourneclaret · Post by **Melbourneclaret** » Thu Nov 15, 2018 12:04 pm

I haven’t really been following brexit. Why can’t the UK just leave completely straight away?

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Thu Nov 15, 2018 12:05 pm

Jacob Rees-Mogg calls for TM to go. (In a coded way in the Commons)

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Thu Nov 15, 2018 12:06 pm

biggles wrote:i don't think she's helped herself, tbh. seems to be a poor negotiator conceding too much to the EU mafia. she's making a hash of Brexit.

What kind of negotiator could have negotiated a good deal when it was patently obvious to everyone (except the most extreme brexiteers) that we would be far more hurt by 'no deal' than the EU would be? I can't think of anything more obvious, yet you people seem to think that if you just deny logic.

Imagine going into a pawn shop with jewellery. It's clear to the shop owner that you're homeless and desperate for cash, but you still expect to get a great deal. And if you don't then you'll leave with no deal, THEN turn around and say to yourself that no deal hurt the pawn shop more than you. It's that delusional.

leedsdave · Post by **leedsdave** » Thu Nov 15, 2018 12:16 pm

ElectroClaret wrote:Jacob Rees-Mogg calls for TM to go. (In a coded way in the Commons)

What did he say? I quite like Rees Mogg. Tends to talk a lot of sense.

biggles · Post by **biggles** » Thu Nov 15, 2018 12:20 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:What kind of negotiator could have negotiated a good deal when it was patently obvious to everyone (except the most extreme brexiteers) that we would be far more hurt by 'no deal' than the EU would be? I can't think of anything more obvious, yet you people seem to think that if you just deny logic.

Imagine going into a pawn shop with jewellery. It's clear to the shop owner that you're homeless and desperate for cash, but you still expect to get a great deal. And if you don't then you'll leave with no deal, THEN turn around and say to yourself that no deal hurt the pawn shop more than you. It's that delusional.

the UK is a bit better-off than that poor homeless guy [you?]. the EU needs us as much as we need them. we are in a much stronger position than YOU PEOPLE think.

Claret-On-A-T-Rex · Post by **Claret-On-A-T-Rex** » Thu Nov 15, 2018 12:27 pm

biggles wrote:the UK is a bit better-off than that poor homeless guy [you?]. the EU needs us as much as we need them. we are in a much stronger position than YOU PEOPLE think.

Yep, delusional.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Thu Nov 15, 2018 12:28 pm

biggles wrote:the UK is a bit better-off than that poor homeless guy [you?]. the EU needs us as much as we need them. we are in a much stronger position than YOU PEOPLE think.

I guess it was too much to ask that you understand what an analogy is.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Thu Nov 15, 2018 12:30 pm

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Thu Nov 15, 2018 12:30 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:What kind of negotiator could have negotiated a good deal when it was patently obvious to everyone (except the most extreme brexiteers) that we would be far more hurt by 'no deal' than the EU would be? I can't think of anything more obvious, yet you people seem to think that if you just deny logic.

Imagine going into a pawn shop with jewellery. It's clear to the shop owner that you're homeless and desperate for cash, but you still expect to get a great deal. And if you don't then you'll leave with no deal, THEN turn around and say to yourself that no deal hurt the pawn shop more than you. It's that delusional.

It is. It has been your belief all along that the £320 billion of export business that the EU sells to the UK is of no value whatsoever.

LoveCurryPies · Post by **LoveCurryPies** » Thu Nov 15, 2018 12:34 pm

dsr wrote:It is. It has been your belief all along that the £320 billion of export business that the EU sells to the UK is of no value whatsoever.

That would be import business.

leedsdave · Post by **leedsdave** » Thu Nov 15, 2018 12:34 pm

Found a link to what Rees Mogg said on BBC News website.

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dsr · Post by **dsr** » Thu Nov 15, 2018 12:43 pm

LoveCurryPies wrote:That would be import business.

What the EU sells to the UK is export business by the EU but import business by the UK. Sorry if you were confused.

hampsteadclaret · Post by **hampsteadclaret** » Thu Nov 15, 2018 12:50 pm

Michael Gove as the new Brexit secretary..?

[moving him from Minister for Fish]

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Thu Nov 15, 2018 12:55 pm

Corbyn must be beaming, but he wont say what he wants apart from a deal that protects the UK in a customs union but that is what is splitting the country, parliament and all parties, workshops, offices etc, talk is so easy.

SammyBoy · Post by **SammyBoy** » Thu Nov 15, 2018 1:00 pm

bfcjg wrote:Corbyn must be beaming, but he wont say what he wants apart from a deal that protects the UK in a customs union but that is what is splitting the country, parliament and all parties, workshops, offices etc, talk is so easy.

Corbyn is probably sat in his office smoking a massive doobie and ******* himself that the government is opposing itself, thus doing the legwork for him.

Claret-On-A-T-Rex · Post by **Claret-On-A-T-Rex** » Thu Nov 15, 2018 1:06 pm

There's no pleasing some people, doesn't this end free movement?
That's the main reason the majority of people in Burnley voted leave.

Right_winger · Post by **Right_winger** » Thu Nov 15, 2018 1:18 pm

Claret-On-A-T-Rex wrote:There's no pleasing some people, doesn't this end free movement?
That's the main reason the majority of people in Burnley voted leave.

No we voted to leave the EU. As in the EU has no jurisdiction whatsoever over us... Leave = No deal.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Thu Nov 15, 2018 1:21 pm

Right_winger wrote:No we voted to leave the EU. As in the EU has no jurisdiction whatsoever over us... Leave = No deal.

Except that's not what the Leave campaign campaigned on. They campaigned on leaving with a deal.

KateR · Post by **KateR** » Thu Nov 15, 2018 1:42 pm

will all depend whether enough of them sign up to the no confidence vote, don't see her leaving of her own decision and seems determined to push on through regardless of what she is being told. This may change when it get's rejected in parliament particularly if DUP, and many tory MP's vote against this deal.

While I fully agree she has taken on an impossible job at least she appears to have the courage of her convictions rightly or wrongly, unlike her predecessor, I certainly don't envy how her life must have been for quite a long time. Plus one way or another she will get a headline in the UK's political history for future generations to read and learn from.

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Thu Nov 15, 2018 1:46 pm

Melbourneclaret wrote:I haven’t really been following brexit. Why can’t the UK just leave completely straight away?

Because there's a rump of the population that simply refuse to accept the result of the single biggest expression of democracy the country has ever witnessed. They are organised, sinister in their influence amongst a main stream media only too willing to give them oxygen, and extremely well financed. They have and continue to do anything in their considerable power to frustrate and thwart the will of the people and stop the democratic process.

That's why.

keith1879 · Post by **keith1879** » Thu Nov 15, 2018 1:47 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:What kind of negotiator could have negotiated a good deal when it was patently obvious to everyone (except the most extreme brexiteers) that we would be far more hurt by 'no deal' than the EU would be? I can't think of anything more obvious, yet you people seem to think that if you just deny logic.

Imagine going into a pawn shop with jewellery. It's clear to the shop owner that you're homeless and desperate for cash, but you still expect to get a great deal. And if you don't then you'll leave with no deal, THEN turn around and say to yourself that no deal hurt the pawn shop more than you. It's that delusional.

Spot on. But brexiteer delusions know no bounds. I recall someone on this very site arguing that Brexit would not affect Rolls-Royce aero engines because Airbus would still need them to power their aircraft. (In actual fact Rolls-Royce do not supply many engines to Airbus - it's little more than a niche supplier and Messrs Pratt and Whitney and CFM would be very happy to pick up the extra business).

keith1879 · Post by **keith1879** » Thu Nov 15, 2018 1:48 pm

RingoMcCartney wrote:Because there's a rump of the population that simply refuse to accept the result of the single biggest expression of democracy the country has ever witnessed. They are organised, sinister in their influence amongst a main stream media only too willing to give them oxygen, and extremely well financed. They have and continue to do anything in their considerable power to frustrate and thwart the will of the people and stop the democratic process.

That's why.

The "rump" being approximately 48.1% of the entire population according to the single biggest etc etc etc. But why waste my time arguing with someone whose views are so utterly laughable.

tally · Post by **tally** » Thu Nov 15, 2018 1:53 pm

Welcome to the Hotel California deal ..............you can check out anytime, but you can never leave.
I Liked that one when I heard it

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Thu Nov 15, 2018 1:57 pm

keith1879 wrote:The "rump" being approximately 48.1% of the entire population according to the single biggest etc etc etc. But why waste my time arguing with someone whose views are so utterly laughable.

WRONG!

It's the hardcore ceaseless remoaners that's hellbent on trying to overturn democracy.

Your being disingenuous to the majority of the" 48.1%" Keith. A sizable number of them accept they lost and respect the referendum result with dignity and grace and simply want to get on with implimenting the result.

Claret-On-A-T-Rex · Post by **Claret-On-A-T-Rex** » Thu Nov 15, 2018 2:04 pm

Right_winger wrote:No we voted to leave the EU. As in the EU has no jurisdiction whatsoever over us... Leave = No deal.

No you didn't, you didn't vote to leave the EU without a deal, nobody did.
It wasn't an outcome that was put forth at the time of the referendum.

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Thu Nov 15, 2018 2:08 pm

May has lied all the way through the negotiations to the British public.

Brexit means Brexit
No customs union
No chance of 2nd ref or remaining.

She will go and be replaced with a far bigger right wing Prime Minister.

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Thu Nov 15, 2018 2:08 pm

Claret-On-A-T-Rex wrote:There's no pleasing some people, doesn't this end free movement?
That's the main reason the majority of people in Burnley voted leave.

That's a very sweeping statement.

On what do you base it?

quoonbeatz · Post by **quoonbeatz** » Thu Nov 15, 2018 2:09 pm

may doesn't have long left now but the irony is that none of the people ousting her want the job.

they all know its impossible to deliver what they want.

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Thu Nov 15, 2018 2:10 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:May has lied all the way through the negotiations to the British public.

Brexit means Brexit
No customs union
No chance of 2nd ref or remaining.

She will go and be replaced with a far bigger right wing Prime Minister.

Doesn't have to far right.

Corbyn is a brexiteer after all........

Wile E Coyote · Post by **Wile E Coyote** » Thu Nov 15, 2018 2:11 pm

mogg and johnson are a devious pair of scuttling bastards, is this all we have to look forward to ? 60 million population, and we have to rely on rats like this pair to guide us to salvation !!

Falcon · Post by **Falcon** » Thu Nov 15, 2018 2:17 pm

If Jacob Rees Mogg is the answer then I dread to think what the question is

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Thu Nov 15, 2018 2:19 pm

Which current MP used to reenact the Battle Of Trafalgar in his bath tub?

Falcon · Post by **Falcon** » Thu Nov 15, 2018 2:22 pm

To be honest that'd probably more likely be BoJo?

Although neither is a particularly enchanting mental image to process.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Thu Nov 15, 2018 2:23 pm

"nanny, please wash my willy again"

I'm well aware that won't help!

Claret-On-A-T-Rex · Post by **Claret-On-A-T-Rex** » Thu Nov 15, 2018 2:30 pm

This is hilarious, when's the Festival of Brexit again?
May will actually win the confidence vote and this awesome Brexit deal will go through.
Well done Leave voters, you did it

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Thu Nov 15, 2018 2:40 pm

Darthlaw · Post by **Darthlaw** » Thu Nov 15, 2018 2:41 pm

Claret-On-A-T-Rex wrote:No you didn't, you didn't vote to leave the EU without a deal, nobody did.
It wasn't an outcome that was put forth at the time of the referendum.

Question - "Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union?"

Responses:

"Remain a member of the European Union"
or
"Leave the European Union"

T-Rex, Right Winger pointed out the majority voted to leave the European Union which, according to you, nobody did. Can you point out the bit we all missed regarding leaving with or without a deal?

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Thu Nov 15, 2018 2:43 pm

Darthlaw wrote:Question - "Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union?"

Responses:

"Remain a member of the European Union"
or
"Leave the European Union"

Right Winger pointed out the majority voted to leave the European Union. T-Rex - Can you point out the bit we all missed regarding leaving with or without a deal?

"We should negotiate a new UK-EU deal based on free trade and friendly cooperation." - Official Vote Leave campaign.

Right_winger · Post by **Right_winger** » Thu Nov 15, 2018 2:45 pm

Claret-On-A-T-Rex wrote:No you didn't, you didn't vote to leave the EU without a deal, nobody did.
It wasn't an outcome that was put forth at the time of the referendum.

Yes I did... I know what I voted for.. how can YOU tell me that... it’s because you are guessing and taking crap.

So let me get this straight I thought the de facto claim from remainers was that people didn’t know what they were voting for? They were uninformed? Now you are suggesting otherwise? Which is it too be?

Darthlaw · Post by **Darthlaw** » Thu Nov 15, 2018 2:48 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:"We should negotiate a new UK-EU deal based on free trade and friendly cooperation." - Official Vote Leave campaign.

So that was on the ballot paper, where exactly? Just to be clear.

Falcon · Post by **Falcon** » Thu Nov 15, 2018 2:49 pm

People voted to either leave the EU or remain in it

You voted to leave without a deal

Some other people probably did too

Some voted to leave with a deal

It's not hard this