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Great old words.

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2018 9:59 am
by Bosscat
You may feel yourself a juggins (bit of a twit) for not knowing the difference between a fizgig (firework or a flirty young lady) and a hobbledehoy (clumsy youth) but a list of endangered words is enough to send even the most proficient amanuensis (secretary who takes dictation) into a spin.
Having a bout of 'crapulence (a hangover) after a bout of dipsomania (a craving for alcohol)

Gadzooks people lets not be lickspittles (grovelling servants) to modernisms and let our wonderful language get mired in "lol" and "rofl" don't go down to your m8's gaff .....

Anyone got any more to share.......

Re: Great old words.

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2018 10:07 am
by Buxtonclaret
Ultracrepidarian

Rumour has it, there's a few of these sort on here. :lol:

Re: Great old words.

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2018 10:08 am
by Buxtonclaret
Snollygoster

This is a good 'un!

Re: Great old words.

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2018 3:44 pm
by piston broke
Burnleypenalty

Re: Great old words.

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2018 3:56 pm
by moaninclaret
Think you've been reading too many Charles Dickens novels and watching The Good Old days variety show.

Re: Great old words.

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2018 4:12 pm
by South West Claret.
Monstrous carbuncle..that's two of the blithers I tell you :)

Re: Great old words.

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2018 4:12 pm
by Hedontplayforyou
Todger

Re: Great old words.

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2018 4:14 pm
by claretonthecoast1882
kiff

Re: Great old words.

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2018 4:19 pm
by Lancasterclaret
Personal responsibility

Haven't heard that one for ages!

Re: Great old words.

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2018 4:22 pm
by LeadBelly
Just need to read a few acts of Shakespeare to pick up a fair few words now not much used.

But, for starters....(not necessarily from Will's works)

Fopdoodle
Varlet
Strumpet
Nincompoop
Stingbum
Fandangle
rapscallion
Lucifer (to light your fag with)
tope
purfle (though purfling is still used re guitar building)
smite (Bible maybe keeping that one going but a good old word)

Re: Great old words.

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2018 4:24 pm
by conyoviejo
Fettler/Mucker

Re: Great old words.

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2018 4:27 pm
by houseboy
LeadBelly wrote:Just need to read a few acts of Shakespeare to pick up a fair few words now not much used.

But, for starters....(not necessarily from Will's works)

Fopdoodle
Varlet
Strumpet
Nincompoop
Stingbum
Fandangle
rapscallion
Lucifer (to light your fag with)
tope
purfle (though purfling is still used re guitar building)
smite (Bible maybe keeping that one going but a good old word)
Sturmpet cropped up a lot when I was younger, it was how my dad used to describe my girlfriends, as in, 'oh another strumpet lad, when will you ever learn'.

Re: Great old words.

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2018 4:32 pm
by houseboy
I was suprised very recently to discover that the word GRUNTLED is indeed a word, it means to be happy and satisfied and content and is the opposite of that famous old word DISGRUNTLED.

'How's your sex life?'
'Oh I find myself very gruntled with it.'

Doesn't that sound just great, it fits, having a very gruntled sex life.

If only it were true, he says in a very disgruntled way.

Re: Great old words.

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2018 4:46 pm
by tim_noone
claretonthecoast1882 wrote:kiff
That equates to ..well smart or similar as I remember :D

Re: Great old words.

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2018 4:53 pm
by Lancasterclaret
Susie Dent has just tweeted this

'Joppety-joppety' is old dialect for feverish spurts of panic and agitation"

Re: Great old words.

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2018 5:01 pm
by dsr
houseboy wrote:I was suprised very recently to discover that the word GRUNTLED is indeed a word, it means to be happy and satisfied and content and is the opposite of that famous old word DISGRUNTLED.

'How's your sex life?'
'Oh I find myself very gruntled with it.'

Doesn't that sound just great, it fits, having a very gruntled sex life.

If only it were true, he says in a very disgruntled way.
I think that's a back formation invented, by PG Wodehouse. Disgruntled didn't originally come from gruntled, so far as I know.

Re: Great old words.

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2018 5:03 pm
by dsr
A slug-a-bed snuggled in somnolent gloom,
When a sobersides slithered right into the room

A frightful slangwanger who banged on the bed
And harangued him and snibbed at his poor slimsy head,

Squalling:'Time you were spiffy and slippy and sprack
You slubberdegullion, you sprag, off your back!

Or forsooth, you are sick, when I must-yes-perforce,
I must skink you a spoonful of black slibber-sauce'

Now slibber-sauce, certe, is so sozzle- a skinker
Who slips you a spoonful of that, is a stinker.

'Oh snick up, O slid, 'slife not slibber-sauce- NO!
And the slug-a-bed spanged from his bed in one go,

And skelped the said skellum, (quite rightly, I'd say),
So the sobersides sloped off. He just slived away.

Bronnie Cunningham.

Re: Great old words.

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2018 5:06 pm
by South West Claret.
Clogger.

Re: Great old words.

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2018 6:39 pm
by Alanstevensonsgloves
PIZZLE

Re: Great old words.

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2018 6:43 pm
by TVC15
houseboy wrote:Sturmpet cropped up a lot when I was younger, it was how my dad used to describe my girlfriends, as in, 'oh another strumpet lad, when will you ever learn'.
Love the word “strumpet”. One of my mates uses it !!

Prannock and Wazzock were non swear words “terms of affection” when I was a nipper !

Re: Great old words.

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2018 7:56 pm
by Aclaret
I'm flabbergasted that no one has mentioned that they are discombobulated.

Re: Great old words.

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2018 11:24 pm
by South West Claret.
Ratbag.

Re: Great old words.

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2018 11:37 pm
by Funkydrummer
Gobsmacked.

Fair clemmed.

Goosed.

Re: Great old words.

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 12:19 am
by tim_noone
Montedevo.

Re: Great old words.

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 12:35 am
by cricketfieldclarets
Crestfallen

Re: Great old words.

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 12:43 am
by LeadBelly
From holidays long ago...

Chara(banc)
Portmanteau

Re: Great old words.

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 12:45 am
by Dazzler
2 great old words that seem to be very much out of fashion these days are..

courtesy and consideration.

Re: Great old words.

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 7:02 am
by South West Claret.
Dazzler wrote:2 great old words that seem to be very much out of fashion these days are..

courtesy and consideration.
Bobby Dazzler..Old bean 8-)

Re: Great old words.

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 9:28 am
by Bosscat
South West Claret. wrote:Bobby Dazzler..Old bean 8-)
O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!”
He chortled in his joy.
Twas brillig, and the slithy toves
Did gyre and gimble in the wabe:
All mimsy were the borogoves,
And the mome raths outgrabe.

Re: Great old words.

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 9:33 am
by Sarum
Anyone remember a little old-fashioned word called "those"?

It's one of them words we tend not to use quite as much now....

Re: Great old words.

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 9:39 am
by HiroshimaClaret
Sarum wrote:Anyone remember a little old-fashioned word called "those"?

It's one of them words we tend not to use quite as much now....
You can add `Are` and `there` to this.

Re: Great old words.

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 9:42 am
by cricketfieldclarets
Sarum wrote:Anyone remember a little old-fashioned word called "those"?

It's one of them words we tend not to use quite as much now....
Their theyre. :D

Re: Great old words.

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 9:49 am
by Bosscat
The use of 'of' in place of have as well

"They could of done better...."

My mum would be spinning hearing people say that.

Can hear her now watching TV correcting all and sundry on wrong usages of words and mispronounciations.
:D :D :D

Re: Great old words.

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 10:04 am
by spadesclaret
Sarum wrote:Anyone remember a little old-fashioned word called "those"?

It's one of them words we tend not to use quite as much now....
"who" has been forgotten by many, too.

There are many people now that say "that", then there are still a few people who correctly say "who".

Re: Great old words.

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 11:34 am
by dsr
Sarum wrote:Anyone remember a little old-fashioned word called "those"?

It's one of them words we tend not to use quite as much now....
"them" predates "those". If you learned a very old (Book of Common Prayer) version of the Lord's Prayer, it was "forgive us our trespasses as we forgive them that trespass against us".

Re: Great old words.

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 12:31 pm
by Bosscat
dsr wrote:"them" predates "those". If you learned a very old (Book of Common Prayer) version of the Lord's Prayer, it was "forgive us our trespasses as we forgive them that trespass against us".
We shoot trespassers on sight

Re: Great old words.

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 12:49 pm
by dsr
Bosscat wrote:We shoot trespassers on sight
That'll learn those! :?

Re: Great old words.

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 2:19 pm
by Down_Rover
lol, pmsl,

Re: Great old words.

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 4:54 pm
by Sausage
Ginnel

Re: Great old words.

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 5:09 pm
by Too old to be grumpy
One of my favourite websites.

http://www.phrontistery.info/index.html

There you will find thousands of words and their definitions that have fallen out of use, are rarely used or are simply amusing. The site’s URL includes the word phrontistery. A word no longer used (except in a website’s name) meaning a place for thinking or contemplation. I guess most of us have a place or room which we could call our phrontistery. Mine used to be our bath. I tended to make my best decisions while wallowing in a hot bath one of which was to stop having baths and start using the shower instead. There is now a sign on to outside of our loo door; ‘The Phrontistery’.

Re: Great old words.

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 5:35 pm
by Bosscat
Too old to be grumpy wrote:One of my favourite websites.

http://www.phrontistery.info/index.html

There you will find thousands of words and their definitions that have fallen out of use, are rarely used or are simply amusing. The site’s URL includes the word phrontistery. A word no longer used (except in a website’s name) meaning a place for thinking or contemplation. I guess most of us have a place or room which we could call our phrontistery. Mine used to be our bath. I tended to make my best decisions while wallowing in a hot bath one of which was to stop having baths and start using the shower instead. There is now a sign on to outside of our loo door; ‘The Phrontistery’.
Am off out to sample the product of "zymotechnics" this evening cheers Too old to be Grumpy m8.... ;) ;)

Have bookmarked this site.... I love it

Re: Great old words.

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 5:58 pm
by karatekid
Bosscat wrote:The use of 'of' in place of have as well

"They could of done better...."

My mum would be spinning hearing people say that.

Can hear her now watching TV correcting all and sundry on wrong usages of words and mispronounciations.
:D :D :D
I think it may just be 'Could'ave' has turned into 'Could'of' with the integration of different folk into our society.The English language is forever evolving with every new social media platform that arises and also the number of visitors to our shores over the years have had a profound impact on how English is spoken.

Kiff was always Well Kiff or Fair Kiff back in the Eighties :) It meant something was really good or just averagely good.

Re: Great old words.

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 6:17 pm
by Bosscat
karatekid wrote:I think it may just be 'Could'ave' has turned into 'Could'of' with the integration of different folk into our society.The English language is forever evolving with every new social media platform that arises and also the number of visitors to our shores over the years have had a profound impact on how English is spoken.

Kiff was always Well Kiff or Fair Kiff back in the Eighties :) It meant something was really good or just averagely good.
Lazy I call it......
Damned Lazy people doing this should be Flogged I tell you... Flogged... in fact Flogging is too good for the Lazy Blighters :D :D :D

Re: Great old words.

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 6:44 pm
by expoultryboy
Use ya noggin . Well ace .down bi cut .

Re: Great old words.

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 10:08 pm
by piston broke
An American word, used a lot by Clint Eastwood, I’ve never understood. Cockamamey. Excuse spelling, if incorrect.

Re: Great old words.

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 10:19 pm
by Shore claret
Kruckle, they used to kill.

Re: Great old words.

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 10:25 pm
by dpinsussex
Socialist government

Hang on that's just old words
:) :) :)
Opens the political door and runs

Re: Great old words.

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 10:42 pm
by Volvoclaret
Egate (sic) Very E. Lancs expression, sadly gone from normal conversation. Egate; as in well I saw Mary any she was egate @our Tom was ......

Kiff, good.

Re: Great old words.

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 11:05 pm
by piston broke
Volvoclaret wrote:Egate (sic) Very E. Lancs expression, sadly gone from normal conversation. Egate; as in well I saw Mary any she was egate @our Tom was ......

Kiff, good.
I always thought that was agate. The next door neighbour used it all the time.

Re: Great old words.

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 11:08 pm
by Volvoclaret
Could be agate, thats why I put sic, not 100% sure., but meaning the same thing.