Drinkwater, Moses snd Cahill.

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Drinkwater, Moses snd Cahill.

Post by moaninclaret » Thu Nov 15, 2018 4:06 pm

None of these players are not featuring in Sarris plans, signing fees might not be too high, wages could be an issue, a bid for Moses could be fruitful, anyone agree?

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Re: Drinkwater, Moses snd Cahill.

Post by FactualFrank » Thu Nov 15, 2018 4:10 pm

Will they want to move to a club who is possibly going to be in a relegation scrap come the end of the season? Will they agree to relegation clauses in their contract? Will they want a wage higher than we're willing to pay them?

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Post by cricketfieldclarets » Thu Nov 15, 2018 4:12 pm

Mentioned these on another thread.

Would offer chelsea 100% of Moses and Drinkwaters wages for rest of the season and then try and negotiate a similar deal to the Hart one for next season.

Two very good players who are exactly what we need.
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Re: Drinkwater, Moses snd Cahill.

Post by jurek » Thu Nov 15, 2018 4:12 pm

Can't see any of those players ending up at the Turf
even if we were interested in some of them.

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Post by moaninclaret » Thu Nov 15, 2018 4:13 pm

Will they want to play for a championship club that wont pay them anywhere near as much as we could?

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Post by Hedontplayforyou » Thu Nov 15, 2018 4:14 pm

Drinkwater all day long. But wouldn’t be interested.
Moses is a cheat who I can’t stand.
Cahill isn’t needed

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Post by South West Claret. » Thu Nov 15, 2018 4:15 pm

Well there's a name from the past Drinkwater has hardly featured since he went to Chelsea has he.
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Post by moaninclaret » Thu Nov 15, 2018 4:24 pm

South West Claret. wrote:Well there's a name from the past Drinkwater has hardly featured since he went to Chelsea has he.
Thats what im trying to get at,why not a cheeky bid for any of them, no harm in asking is there? the bigger clubs wont want any of them so why not throw a bid in the pot?

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Post by cricketfieldclarets » Thu Nov 15, 2018 4:32 pm

South West Claret. wrote:Well there's a name from the past Drinkwater has hardly featured since he went to Chelsea has he.
Much like when they signed Sidwell, Sinclair and the like.

Signing up good British players who arent good enough for them but affects the competition.

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Post by jojomk1 » Thu Nov 15, 2018 5:01 pm

They will end up at either WHU, Fulham or Everton

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Post by beddie » Thu Nov 15, 2018 6:22 pm

All three please. ;)

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Post by MACCA » Thu Nov 15, 2018 6:32 pm

If we weren't trying to sign ( or they werent willing to come ) the next step up in quality player wise after a 7th placed finish, with European football on offer, then we certainly won't be signing those types in a relegation scrap...

You could foresee what was going to happen many months ago, sadly it maybe a while if ever before we get that chance again.
Sadly standing still usually means you go backwards..

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Re: Drinkwater, Moses snd Cahill.

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Nov 15, 2018 6:46 pm

moaninclaret wrote:None of these players are not featuring in Sarris plans, signing fees might not be too high, wages could be an issue, a bid for Moses could be fruitful, anyone agree?
The error you made there is that, should we be interested, wages would be an issue, not could be.

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Post by SGr » Thu Nov 15, 2018 6:52 pm

I’d take Moses. Not so sure re Drinkwater.

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Post by CoolClaret » Thu Nov 15, 2018 6:53 pm

I'd bite Sarri's hand off for Moses

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Post by DCWat » Thu Nov 15, 2018 6:54 pm

Both Drinkwater and Moses would vastly improve our squad.

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Post by evensteadiereddie » Thu Nov 15, 2018 7:05 pm

......sounds like a firm of solicitors.

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Post by MACCA » Thu Nov 15, 2018 7:08 pm

DCWat wrote:Both Drinkwater and Moses would vastly improve our squad.

Never mind improving the squad, let's start trying to improve the first team, we've gone backwards in the last 12 months.
I'd improve the squad, along with my next door neighbour.
First teamers are what's needed, then the squad automatically improves.

Although all 3 would improve the first team IMO if they were played.

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Post by DCWat » Thu Nov 15, 2018 7:10 pm

MACCA wrote:Never mind improving the squad, let's start trying to improve the first team, we've gone backwards in the last 12 months.
I'd improve the squad, along with my next door neighbour.
First teamers are what's needed, then the squad automatically improves.

Although all 3 would improve the first team IMO if they were played.
I say squad but include first XI in that.

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Post by warksclaret » Thu Nov 15, 2018 7:15 pm

All three are big names, and would lift the quality. I can think of 4-5 clubs who would take Drinkwater-saw a lot of him watching Leicester and he was a star player when they won the PL. Highly combative and creative-what a waste of talent at Chelsea, at times not even making the bench

My worry is we are not "streetwise" when getting players before they generate interest from other clubs. Would never back us in a two horse race with another PL side in securing a signing right now. The attempted signings of Jay Road , Dawson and Mawson was a shambles. We need to have the right people at BFC who can swoop, not mess about and take players out the market. WE used to do it once when money was less of an issuect ie Ian Wright, Andy Cole, Chris Eagles, Steven Fletcher, Andre Bikey . At the time it gave me a huge buzz as a fan to secure these guys

Maybe focus our sites on the likes of Antonio (can play wide or down the middle), Austin (if he could be persuaded) both not getting a regular start. These two are likely to be less sought after but have a good track record

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Post by Claretmatt4 » Thu Nov 15, 2018 7:18 pm

Drinkwater 100%

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Post by IanMcL » Thu Nov 15, 2018 7:25 pm

Cork is as good! Defour better.

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Post by cricketfieldclarets » Thu Nov 15, 2018 7:28 pm

ClaretTony wrote:The error you made there is that, should we be interested, wages would be an issue, not could be.
Well it wasnt with Joe Hart...

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Post by cricketfieldclarets » Thu Nov 15, 2018 7:31 pm

IanMcL wrote:Cork is as good! Defour better.
As Drinkwater?

On Talent Defour possibly is. But Drinkwater would be perfect for us. Good on the ball, combative, brilliant energy.

That said we also need goals from midfield. Drinkwater doesnt bring that. But that is alongside a drinkwater and a moses type we need!

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Post by IanMcL » Thu Nov 15, 2018 7:42 pm

Never satisfied!

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Post by SGr » Thu Nov 15, 2018 7:45 pm

IanMcL wrote:Cork is as good! Defour better.
Depends how much Drinkwater has dropped off in ability since joining Chelsea, regarding Cork. Before he did he was easily better than Cork is now, not even close.

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Post by EarbyClaret » Thu Nov 15, 2018 9:34 pm

None are featuring at Chelsea but are they actually for sale?

If it's a question of loans then surely that would suit us better and likewise the players - who must all think they have a PL future.

All three would improve our starting 11 - if it was a question of priorities then Drinkwater tops the list.
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Post by MACCA » Thu Nov 15, 2018 9:38 pm

EarbyClaret wrote:None are featuring at Chelsea but are they actually for sale?

If it's a question of loans then surely that would suit us better and likewise the players - who must all think they have a PL future.

All three would improve our starting 11 - if it was a question of priorities then Drinkwater tops the list.
Loans don't suit us, the player or the parent club.

Unless there's emergency cover needed, I doubt we need to bother with them again. Mr Dyche isn't a fan of players on loan.
( obviously loans, where a perminent signing is agreed also is different )

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Re: Drinkwater, Moses snd Cahill.

Post by tiger76 » Thu Nov 15, 2018 9:38 pm

IanMcL wrote:Cork is as good! Defour better.
Not on this season's viewing,cork has really struggled.

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Post by Garnerssoap » Fri Nov 16, 2018 12:14 am

Can see Drinkwater happening. We nearly got him when ranieri didn’t fancy him at the start of their eventual prem title season but injuries forced the tinker man to play him rather than flog him to us and the rest as they say ......

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Post by Garnerssoap » Fri Nov 16, 2018 12:17 am

Cahill - good shout as well - nice polite chap whenever in San Carlos
Although not sure we need another centre half what with Kevin getting into his stride

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Post by Garnerssoap » Fri Nov 16, 2018 12:19 am

Moses - don’t know him but a bit too lennonesque for me. His pal rodaellga (sic) was alright in his day mind

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Post by cricketfieldclarets » Fri Nov 16, 2018 12:37 am

Cahill has been an excellent player. And even now is still probably good enough for us for now at least. But it wouldnt really be logical or a sensible use of money.

We are well stocked there. Its in front of them where the issue lies.

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Post by jojomk1 » Fri Nov 16, 2018 4:13 pm

All very experienced players with plenty of Prem experience and would all improve our starting eleven but will prob end up elsewhere

More likely targets for us would be the likes of Solanke, Maitland-Niles, Zinchenko, Diaz, McTominay, Walker-Peters

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Post by cricketfieldclarets » Fri Nov 16, 2018 4:24 pm

jojomk1 wrote:All very experienced players with plenty of Prem experience and would all improve our starting eleven but will prob end up elsewhere

More likely targets for us would be the likes of Solanke, Maitland-Niles, Zinchenko, Diaz, McTominay, Walker-Peters
Would probably take McTominay. Would definitely take Zinchenko, but as daft as it sounds he wouldnt get in. Not because he isnt good enough but its a position we are covered in.

Solanke has done nothing to date to justify coming in and dislodging any of our forward players.

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Post by jojomk1 » Fri Nov 16, 2018 11:06 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Would probably take McTominay. Would definitely take Zinchenko, but as daft as it sounds he wouldnt get in. Not because he isnt good enough but its a position we are covered in.

Solanke has done nothing to date to justify coming in and dislodging any of our forward players.
Sorry, but did you see Solanke's goal against Italy this week (everything we need but haven't got) :D

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Post by cricketfieldclarets » Fri Nov 16, 2018 11:19 pm

jojomk1 wrote:Sorry, but did you see Solanke's goal against Italy this week (everything we need but haven't got) :D
To be fair I havent. But I have seen his premier league record which is abysmal.

He may improve in the future. But I remember him demanding 50k a week at chelsea having never kicked a ball and kind of predicted how his career would likely pan out.

Move to someone daft enough to pay it.
Not make it there.
Move down the levels.
Realise he is already set for life and has no motivation to prove himself.
Fade into obscurity.

Hopefuly i am wrong.

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Post by cricketfieldclarets » Thu Aug 08, 2019 11:56 pm

ClaretTony wrote:The error you made there is that, should we be interested, wages would be an issue, not could be.
Has he signed on for the free Bene? :D

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