Flood on Burnley's policy for hiring managers

Chester Perry · Post by **Chester Perry** » Thu Nov 15, 2018 6:57 pm

for all his current involvement he doesn't half talk to much about the club while promoting his other businesses that he has moved out of the town

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his harping on about "science" reminds me of the Big Bang Theory episode where Zac talks about science to the guys

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TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Thu Nov 15, 2018 7:03 pm

Flood believes UCFB will become the ‘Harvard of Sport’.

It’s been going for 7 years now - not sure exactly what it’s produced yet. Feels more like the “Preston Polytechnic of Sport” to me !

deanothedino · Post by **deanothedino** » Thu Nov 15, 2018 7:06 pm

TVC15 wrote:Flood believes UCFB will become the ‘Harvard of Sport’.

It’s been going for 7 years now - not sure exactly what it’s produced yet. Feels more like the “Preston Polytechnic of Sport” to me !

Gets pretty poor reviews from students as well.

Hipper · Post by **Hipper** » Thu Nov 15, 2018 8:24 pm

TVC15 wrote:Flood believes UCFB will become the ‘Harvard of Sport’.

It’s been going for 7 years now - not sure exactly what it’s produced yet. Feels more like the “Preston Polytechnic of Sport” to me !

Give him a break. Harvard's been going not far off 500 years!

Nonayforever · Post by **Nonayforever** » Thu Nov 15, 2018 8:31 pm

That report sounding a bit like they are preparing for an impending departure.

With regards to the football university, that is very much a vehicle for a large property company.

Burnley are fortunate to have Mr Flood but I think he uses the position to help further his own career.

Rick_Muller · Post by **Rick_Muller** » Thu Nov 15, 2018 8:38 pm

I see he didn’t take any credit for Brian Laws apppintment... as it doesn’t fit his personal credit scoring process.

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Thu Nov 15, 2018 8:41 pm

Nonayforever wrote:Burnley are fortunate to have Mr Flood but I think he uses the position to help further his own career.

Why do you think we are fortunate to have him ?
I think he adds nothing to our current board. He has a huge ego and you are spot on that he uses the club just like he used the university to further his property career. Wonder who is involved in providing accommodation for these students ? Mmmmm ?

Woodleyclaret · Post by **Woodleyclaret** » Thu Nov 15, 2018 9:09 pm

Flood has always put his own interests first.Even when he loaned the club money he asked for and got eye watering interest back.
I would prefer he was miles away from our club and developing his talents elsewhere

bobinho · Post by **bobinho** » Thu Nov 15, 2018 9:37 pm

Always believed this fella was a “wrong un”. No real reason, just a gut instinct that all is not as he wants us to believe. I tend to trust my gut instinct.

Some hail his involvement at Burnley like he was the saviour of the club. Something unpleasant niggles away at me whenever I hear his name.

Cleveleys_claret · Post by **Cleveleys_claret** » Thu Nov 15, 2018 9:50 pm

Likes to tell everyone who will listen of going ons within the club also

BabylonClaret · Post by **BabylonClaret** » Thu Nov 15, 2018 10:00 pm

Hipper wrote:Give him a break. Harvard's been going not far off 500 years!

500?? I dont thunk even Boston itself has a history that long

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Thu Nov 15, 2018 10:00 pm

bobinho wrote:Always believed this fella was a “wrong un”. No real reason, just a gut instinct that all is not as he wants us to believe. I tend to trust my gut instinct.

Some hail his involvement at Burnley like he was the saviour of the club. Something unpleasant niggles away at me whenever I hear his name.

Your beliefs are well founded - he’s a wrong un ok (IMHO !)

Burnleyareback2 · Post by **Burnleyareback2** » Thu Nov 15, 2018 10:40 pm

Another Owen Coyle for me, he took a lot of money out of the club in terms of interest but like Coyle, would we be where we are now?

If his business hadn’t of collapsed during the recession how much more money would he of pumped in.

We needed him, like we needed Coyle at a certain point in our history.

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Thu Nov 15, 2018 11:52 pm

I get the Impression he's in Love With Brendan Flood and The Limelight.

Garnerssoap · Post by **Garnerssoap** » Fri Nov 16, 2018 12:07 am

Another one of those leathery ***** on the rooftop in Athens. Sold us and our manager short for a few years now.

Oshkoshclaret · Post by **Oshkoshclaret** » Fri Nov 16, 2018 5:08 am

“But if you analyse out what Brian Laws has done ... we got a report from Deloitte and looked at the Championship managers in the last three years, what their wage budgets were and what their affective position was at the end of the season. Brian Laws was top of that league every time"

Brendan Flood, January 2010

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Fri Nov 16, 2018 7:23 am

If you read his book he stopped supporting us for a while and watched QPR I think it was. I think as mentioned the club has been a vehicle for his ego. Remember his tv interviews we he became a director talked about buying diamonds for his wife everytime we sign a player using his cash. Hmmm.

Rouwens_Weapon · Post by **Rouwens_Weapon** » Fri Nov 16, 2018 7:39 am

Shameless self promotion. It's as if the recruitment was solely down to him. I think Mr Garlick may have had a bigger role in SD's appointment.

aggi · Post by **aggi** » Fri Nov 16, 2018 9:46 am

Some top quality whitewashing there, I know most of us prefer to try not to remember Laws' time in charge but it appears that Flood has forgotten he was ever here.

Flood's a property developer; pretty much all of the ones I've dealt with professionally tend to be brash and all about self-promotion, it goes with the territory. Generally, it's a highly leveraged business and it doesn't attract the calm and cautious types.

In terms of the hefty interest/bonuses, to be fair to him these were mainly payable on promotion (and not many people expected that Coyle was going to work wonders that season). They also had to be repaid earlier than planned due to the financial crisis and his company going into administration.

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Fri Nov 16, 2018 10:20 am

Appears to be more interested in self promotion. Not sure what he adds really.

Rumbletonk · Post by **Rumbletonk** » Fri Nov 16, 2018 12:57 pm

deanothedino wrote:Gets pretty poor reviews from students as well.

3.7 out of 5 on whatuni.com most reviews are very positive on that site

Spike · Post by **Spike** » Fri Nov 16, 2018 1:08 pm

Preston Poly graduated into UCLAN.

The University of Football shouldn't have been moved

Flood gets a bad press but he isn't A Co-owner as stated in that article . Isnt he now just a shareholder

deanothedino · Post by **deanothedino** » Fri Nov 16, 2018 2:04 pm

Rumbletonk wrote:3.7 out of 5 on whatuni.com most reviews are very positive on that site

Have you read them?

There's several pointing out major flaws that are still giving 5 stars. A few others whose main employment since graduating has been with UCFB.

Quite hard to take those at face value compared to the actual conversations I've had with students there.

Rumbletonk · Post by **Rumbletonk** » Fri Nov 16, 2018 3:13 pm

deanothedino wrote:Have you read them?

There's several pointing out major flaws that are still giving 5 stars. A few others whose main employment since graduating has been with UCFB.

Quite hard to take those at face value compared to the actual conversations I've had with students there.

No just skimmed to be honest. Fair enough if you've talked to people that have been. I'd trust that over a review site all day. I'll get back in my box

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Fri Nov 16, 2018 3:50 pm

I don't really get the point of UCFB. It does not appear to be much more than a glorified college offering a sports degree. It certainly has not attracted the best young sports students in the country and neither does it give those graduating any kind of "special" degree which gives them a pathway into working in the industry. Its also not attracting an especially good calibre of teaching and I have heard a number of pretty bad stories about how poor the teaching has been.

Loughborough University is light years ahead as a centre of excellence for offering sports degrees. Universities like Bangor, Warwick and many others have sports faculties with a far better reputation than UFCB.

As I said anything Flood has been involved in is purely with a view to him making money. In the case of UFCB it was all about him making money about from student accommodation.

deanothedino · Post by **deanothedino** » Fri Nov 16, 2018 3:59 pm

TVC15 wrote:I don't really get the point of UCFB. It does not appear to be much more than a glorified college offering a sports degree. It certainly has not attracted the best young sports students in the country and neither does it give those graduating any kind of "special" degree which gives them a pathway into working in the industry. Its also not attracting an especially good calibre of teaching and I have heard a number of pretty bad stories about how poor the teaching has been.

Loughborough University is light years ahead as a centre of excellence for offering sports degrees. Universities like Bangor, Warwick and many others have sports faculties with a far better reputation than UFCB.

As I said anything Flood has been involved in is purely with a view to him making money. In the case of UFCB it was all about him making money about from student accommodation.

UCFB isn't really a sports university, it's a sports business university something I don't think is necessary tbh

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Fri Nov 16, 2018 6:35 pm

Rick_Muller wrote:I see he didn’t take any credit for Brian Laws apppintment... as it doesn’t fit his personal credit scoring process.

Always found it strange that he admits that he personally wanted Laws in 2007 but was put off by the other directors (his words in his own book) but then always claims he didn't want him in 2010 when, apparently, those directors who didn't want him in 2007 suddenly did three years later.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Fri Nov 16, 2018 6:41 pm

Spike wrote:but he isn't A Co-owner as stated in that article . Isnt he now just a shareholder

Being a shareholder makes you a co-owner. I'm a co-owner too but I don't have anything like as many shares.

Current share status is:

Mike Garlick: 49.24%
John B: 28.2%
Other five directors hold, between them, a total of 16.36%

Total Board holding: 93.8%

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Fri Nov 16, 2018 6:43 pm

Like it or not, its highly unlikely we would be here without him.

Definitely helped push us to our first premier league season and definitely knew how to market us. Was streets ahead of some of the older (in both senses) board members.

Targetman · Post by **Targetman** » Sat Nov 17, 2018 12:10 am

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Like it or not, its highly unlikely we would be here without him.

Definitely helped push us to our first premier league season and definitely knew how to market us. Was streets ahead of some of the older (in both senses) board members.

Are you a mate of his?

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Sat Nov 17, 2018 12:15 am

Targetman wrote:Are you a mate of his?

Never met him in my life.

NRC · Post by **NRC** » Sat Nov 17, 2018 2:33 pm

what a load of "Johnny-come-latelys y'all are.

Some of us openly commented on his "credentials" as the time of his appointment with the reference above to his wife's bling. Then again when in pre-season in North Carolina, where he announced a cooperation with the local soccer structure and a local businessman to be THE recruitment and development plan for our squads. And then again, when he self-appointed himself as our scout for South America....

Grumps · Post by **Grumps** » Sat Nov 17, 2018 2:53 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Like it or not, its highly unlikely we would be here without him.

Definitely helped push us to our first premier league season and definitely knew how to market us. Was streets ahead of some of the older (in both senses) board members.

Absolutely 100% correct, some Prominent posters on here detest him, but without his input we would not have enjoyed our recent successes. Look at what he did, and don't follow the sheep on here.

paulatky · Post by **paulatky** » Sat Nov 17, 2018 3:03 pm

Got to agree that Flood played a significant part in our 1st promotion,
His preparedness to take risk and push the boat out complimented BK’s prudency perfectly.
He ( his company ) funded the signings of Eagles and Paterson and got us to the promised land.

paulatky · Post by **paulatky** » Sat Nov 17, 2018 3:03 pm

Got to agree that Flood played a significant part in our 1st promotion,
His preparedness to take risk and push the boat out complimented BK’s prudency perfectly.
He ( his company ) funded the signings of Eagles and Paterson and got us to the promised land.

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Sat Nov 17, 2018 3:07 pm

paulatky wrote:Got to agree that Flood played a significant part in our 1st promotion,
His preparedness to take risk and push the boat out complimented BK’s prudency perfectly.
He ( his company ) funded the signings of Eagles and Paterson and got us to the promised land.

Didn’t we get into trouble regarding the Eagles signing for not keeping up with the payments?

ksrclaret · Post by **ksrclaret** » Sat Nov 17, 2018 3:08 pm

File alongside Brian Jensen

Some people you are allowed to slag off until your heart is content on this board, others not so much.

paulatky · Post by **paulatky** » Sat Nov 17, 2018 3:14 pm

Yes think you are right Joey.
Had we not won at Wembley might well have had to be a fire sale of players.
But as they say,you cant win if you dont buy a ticket.

Nonayforever · Post by **Nonayforever** » Sat Nov 17, 2018 6:16 pm

Flood was instrumental in the Trippier and Ings signings.

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Sat Nov 17, 2018 6:53 pm

Nonayforever wrote:Flood was instrumental in the Trippier and Ings signings.

Trumpet or Bagpipes ?

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Sat Nov 17, 2018 7:06 pm

Grumps wrote:Absolutely 100% correct, some Prominent posters on here detest him, but without his input we would not have enjoyed our recent successes. Look at what he did, and don't follow the sheep on here.

Is he a mate of yours?

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Sat Nov 17, 2018 7:08 pm

It wouldn't be UTC if posters didn't hint heavily at "things" they have heard.

Course, there is the possibility (however unlikely!) that "things" might not be true.

Grumps · Post by **Grumps** » Sat Nov 17, 2018 8:54 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Is he a mate of yours?

I was agreeing with your post saying we wouldn't have got promoted without him, so don't understand your comment

Alanstevensonsgloves · Post by **Alanstevensonsgloves** » Sat Nov 17, 2018 9:03 pm

See post 30 grumps

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Sat Nov 17, 2018 9:18 pm

Grumps wrote:I was agreeing with your post saying we wouldn't have got promoted without him, so don't understand your comment

Sorry I was being sarcastic while at the same time agreeisng exactly with what you said. See post 30

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Sat Nov 17, 2018 10:09 pm

I think if any director was to sell out or engineer a sale of the club to a foreign buyer it would be him. The input he did years ago has been well documented however moving the uni away was a statement of business above Burnley.

Wokingclaret · Post by **Wokingclaret** » Sat Nov 17, 2018 10:53 pm

In 2009 we were bailed out one of the clubs Directors who was sadly passing away. Unfortunately tonight I cant even think of his name, but we owe him a hell of a lot. Without his help we wouldn't of got past Wembley. Flood with all his investment nearly finished us