63 dead, over 1000 missing

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Fri Nov 16, 2018 6:17 pm

This fire in California has been ******* brutal. I remember a few days ago the death toll was about half the current figure and it had matched the deadliest wildfire ever in the US, but the thought that a further 600 might have been killed by it is just insane.

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Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sat Nov 17, 2018 5:00 am

Now more than 1,000 people missing or unaccounted for.

morpheus2 · Post by **morpheus2** » Sat Nov 17, 2018 10:45 am

My friend Charles and his family just managed to escape from Paradise CA, their house was right next door to the Safeway shop which can be seen in news reports, all that remains is the brick chimney stack. I am in the process of collecting together old Beatrix Potter books for their toddler, I'm glad it is taking a while else they would have been lost with the house and its contents too.

Awful for those lost and for those who have lost loved ones....not to forget those who had to leave family pets behind in the rush. Charles managed to escape with his dogs - I know in the midst of all the human life lost this may seem trivial, but I'm such an animal lover that it always gets me even more down in the event of such tragedies.

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Sat Nov 17, 2018 11:16 am

Excuse my ignorance but the references to ‘camp fire’ is this a place or an assumed cause!?

It’s frightening how quickly it appears to have spread. If people weren’t woken by an alert or call, it could have been too late.

morpheus2 · Post by **morpheus2** » Sat Nov 17, 2018 11:32 am

DCWat wrote:Excuse my ignorance but the references to ‘camp fire’ is this a place or an assumed cause!?

It’s frightening how quickly it appears to have spread. If people weren’t woken by an alert or call, it could have been too late.

It began on the Camp Creek road, hence the 'Camp' fire. Sparks from damaged electric cables are being blamed as the cause.

NRC · Post by **NRC** » Sat Nov 17, 2018 3:10 pm

morpheus2 wrote:Sparks from damaged electric cables are being blamed as the cause.

Allegedly, Morpheus, you don't want to help fund PG&E's legal costs do you?

Surprised it's taken Turtle this long to put a thread up on the topic. if it was an east coast hurricance he's have been covering it when it was still a puff of air.

the scale of this needs some understanding
- 10,000 homes destroyed. Imagine that - 10,000 homes. Is that half of Burnley?
- 150,000 acres raised - that's roughly 300,000 football pitches
- 6,000 fire fighters and 650 trucks
- only 50% contained
- still another 15,000 buildings considered under threat
- roughly 75,000 people displaced. Paradise's population is 25,000 - where the heck do they go/get schooled/earn a living?

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sat Nov 17, 2018 3:14 pm

NRC wrote:
Surprised it's taken Turtle this long to put a thread up on the topic. if it was an east coast hurricane he's have been covering it when it was still a puff of air.

This was pretty **** of you.

NRC · Post by **NRC** » Sat Nov 17, 2018 3:19 pm

nah, didn't translate..... what am I accused of?

Claret · Post by **Claret** » Sat Nov 17, 2018 3:23 pm

NRC wrote:nah, didn't translate..... what am I accused of?

I’m sure imploding turtle can look after himself but why do a lot of people bully him? What’s he done wrong? I don’t get it?

NRC · Post by **NRC** » Sat Nov 17, 2018 3:31 pm

In my case, Claret, I'm actually an IT fan - am on record as such, and actually never really debate him because I often find myself in lock-step with him...... so on that basis I feel empowered to have a gentle dig, hence my "puff or air" tone...... I'm surprised IT didn't recognize the tongue-in-cheek nature of it, if that's what he's implying....

conyoviejo · Post by **conyoviejo** » Sat Nov 17, 2018 3:34 pm

Claret wrote:I’m sure imploding turtle can look after himself but why do a lot of people bully him? What’s he done wrong? I don’t get it?

People bullying Turtle ..Massive Arfs

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Sat Nov 17, 2018 3:45 pm

I can't help thinking that California needs troops slightly more than the US-Mexico border does at the moment.

bfcmik · Post by **bfcmik** » Sat Nov 17, 2018 4:38 pm

Now being reported as 71 deaths after 8 more bodies were found this morning

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