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cricketfieldclarets
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by cricketfieldclarets » Thu Nov 22, 2018 9:22 pm
I think we would have been very happy in their circumstances with most of them.
Id take half of them now.
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by Claretuk » Thu Nov 22, 2018 9:37 pm
Let's hope we give the guy a decent budget! N with Warburton being best mates with dyche, you would think this guy must of massively impressed @ interview..
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by Woodleyclaret » Thu Nov 22, 2018 9:41 pm
Potentially a goid acquisition and his experience can only be helpful to Burnley.Personally working with Fulham is not a problem to have on his cv.I'd be more concerned about him working at QPR with the carcrash thats Hoos
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by CrosspoolClarets » Thu Nov 22, 2018 9:48 pm
Excellent appointment. His brain should help build up the recruitment and scouting infrastructure, in that sense £150m turnover can go a long, long way,
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by Lancasterclaret » Thu Nov 22, 2018 9:56 pm
Can't see anything wrong with this.
You need someone with bags of experience setting this kind of thing up.
Pleasantly surprised its not warburton as well.
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by EarbyClaret » Thu Nov 22, 2018 9:57 pm
That link to to Fulham's incoming transfers suggests Kit Symons was manager when he went there - which meant they were struggling at the wrong end of the table. I seem to recall the season we won the Championship they narrowly avoided the drop - despite scoring a lot of goals.
Last season they got promoted.
I don't know anything about Fulham's business model, other than they are recently cash rich and have the added attraction of their location, but would have thought Mike Rigg being an integral part of recruiting the players that took them from near the bottom of the table to the top can only be a good thing?
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by ClaretAndJew » Thu Nov 22, 2018 10:27 pm
It's interesting the comments from QPR and Fulham fans on Twitter.
I suppose it would be similar to us warning people about Lee Hoos. Was it just a bad appointment for us at the time, etc.
Hopefully this works out but there's some negative stuff being said about him.
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by Spijed » Thu Nov 22, 2018 10:33 pm
ClaretAndJew wrote:Hopefully this works out but there's some negative stuff being said about him.
Something you ALWAYS get from supporters when someone leaves to go elsewhere.
Remember, there was plenty of negative stuff about Eddie Howe when he left us.
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by Cleveleys_claret » Thu Nov 22, 2018 10:35 pm
From looking at the candidates when we kind of knew the three favoured choices I read a lot of disgruntled posts by Fulham regards his time there. But it wasnt for signing players. It was regards taking 8 weeks in preseaon to hire a new manager which was Jokanovic (sp?). Now I doubt that was as much his doing as the owners but he seemdd to get the brunt of the abuse from the fans for it. And in hindsight he didnt do too bad a job.
Personally i would be looking at the likes of Dembele, Sessegnon, Fredericks and the 3 lads who took part in the England U17s world cup. Shows he can recruit youth and hopefully at the level we require
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by RammyClaret61 » Fri Nov 23, 2018 12:34 am
Negative stuff being said about someone in football. Nah, never happens.
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by SussexDon1inIreland » Fri Nov 23, 2018 7:08 am
Sean was involved in his selection so that’s good enough for me
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by snapcrackleandpop » Fri Nov 23, 2018 7:52 am
Typical of this forum, the guy has not even sat down and it is a poor appointment. Why is it every player, coach , cleaner or general handyman is rubbish, crocked or too expensive. Give him a chance then judge, FFS.
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by TVC15 » Fri Nov 23, 2018 8:00 am
snapcrackleandpop wrote:Typical of this forum, the guy has not even sat down and it is a poor appointment. Why is it every player, coach , cleaner or general handyman is rubbish, crocked or too expensive. Give him a chance then judge, FFS.
To be fair I think it’s only one poster who has said something negative
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by claretonthecoast1882 » Fri Nov 23, 2018 8:03 am
SGr wrote:Comments based on the most recent club he has worked at, and what their fans think of his time at the club.
The danger in doing that though is say other fans of a club looked at your comments and then decided all Burnley fans had the same idiotic and weak thoughts, would it be fair to club all fans into the same mindset as you ?
As said why not wait a while, best scenario he is a success and you haven't looked stupid writing someone off before they begins or he flops and you can get back to whinging non stop.
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by Lancasterclaret » Fri Nov 23, 2018 8:25 am
It has to be said that anyone thinking this is a bad idea based solely on the comments of other football fans needs serious professional help.
Do you honestly think we are the only football club in the world with a BOYSIE31?
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by 9thMay1987 » Fri Nov 23, 2018 8:44 am
Recruitment is the chairman's forte so don't see an issue.
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by LoveCurryPies » Fri Nov 23, 2018 9:01 am
He is now working as part of a Garlick, Dyche, Rigg unit, let's see what they can achieve. I think it is really positive the Club recognised some of the recruiting difficulties they have faced and are rectifying it. This is a strong, positive move forward!
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by steve1264b » Fri Nov 23, 2018 9:46 am
more interesting was that he was on the shortlist to replace Dan Ashworth at the FA. Worked in that age group so he might be able to persuade a couple to sign on.
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by Goobs » Fri Nov 23, 2018 10:08 am
steve1264b wrote:more interesting was that he was on the shortlist to replace Dan Ashworth at the FA. Worked in that age group so he might be able to persuade a couple to sign on.
SGR will be along in a minute to tell you that he is clearly a bad appointment and that's why the FA didn't want him because they had sense and listened to a couple of random Fulham fans.
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by Claretmatt4 » Fri Nov 23, 2018 10:42 am
Glad to read Dyche was part of the interview process
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by ClaretTony » Fri Nov 23, 2018 11:59 am
I was out yesterday when the club confirmed the appointment and I've not been feeling too well since, although for once this is self inflicted. However, I've finally managed to get an article online. Won't start a new thread, but the link is:
http://www.uptheclarets.com/rigg-lands- ... ector-role" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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by Hipper » Fri Nov 23, 2018 12:13 pm
I'd be interested to know why he left Man City for QPR? That seems an odd move. I presume he left QPR when they were relegated.
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by randomclaret2 » Fri Nov 23, 2018 12:20 pm
He seems to have followed Mark Hughes....hence stints with FAW , Blackburn , City and QPR
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by Blackrod » Fri Nov 23, 2018 12:43 pm
Can't see how this is anything other than positive. CV looks good to me.
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by Nesnajttam » Fri Nov 23, 2018 1:00 pm
randomclaret2 wrote:He seems to have followed Mark Hughes....hence stints with FAW , Blackburn , City and QPR
Must have done great at Rovers.. Can't even remember him..!
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by Belgianclaret » Fri Nov 23, 2018 1:24 pm
I for one am against this appointment
They'll all be claiming that our deals have been rigged..
I'll fetch my coat
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by Foulthrow » Fri Nov 23, 2018 3:33 pm
I didn't know that microphones needing rigging. You learn something every day.
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by deanothedino » Fri Nov 23, 2018 4:13 pm
ClaretTony wrote:Lot of problems at Fulham though with a relative of the owner picking the players. Both Rigg and the manager had concerns with the way it was being run.
He’s got a hugely impressive CV including Man City so it seems a bit churlish to post just about Fulham.
Fulham was a mess recruitment wise but it never seemed like it was to do with anyone other than the owner and his friends and family.
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by ClaretTony » Fri Nov 23, 2018 4:21 pm
deanothedino wrote:Fulham was a mess recruitment wise but it never seemed like it was to do with anyone other than the owner and his friends and family.
Agree totally with that
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by IanMcL » Fri Nov 23, 2018 6:06 pm
MRG wrote:Did the Fulham fans mention that he will of been involved in pinching one of our top targets from right under our noses in the summer?
He’ll do for me!
The one we cooled off on.
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by Steddyman » Fri Nov 23, 2018 6:14 pm
Looks to be a very good appointment. He has bags of experience and no doubt established contacts outside of the UK.
I'm looking forwards to the January window with excitement for the first time in a quite a few years.
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by randomclaret2 » Fri Nov 23, 2018 6:47 pm
Will more money be available now ?
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by GodIsADeeJay81 » Fri Nov 23, 2018 6:50 pm
randomclaret2 wrote:Will more money be available now ?
We had money in the last window, we just didn't want to pay over the odds.
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by DCWat » Fri Nov 23, 2018 7:40 pm
Steddyman wrote:Looks to be a very good appointment. He has bags of experience and no doubt established contacts outside of the UK.
I'm looking forwards to the January window with excitement for the first time in a quite a few years.
If he has a positive influence on the January window, after a month or so at the helm, I’ll be pleased.
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by randomclaret2 » Fri Nov 23, 2018 7:42 pm
Will we have money but 'not want to pay over the odds ' in January ?
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by GodIsADeeJay81 » Fri Nov 23, 2018 7:45 pm
randomclaret2 wrote:Will we have money but 'not want to pay over the odds ' in January ?
What did you value Jay Rod at in the last window?
If it's £40 million then most would say that's overpriced.
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by bobinho » Fri Nov 23, 2018 7:45 pm
Great to see this lad being given a fair crack of the whip before he starts.
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by SGr » Fri Nov 23, 2018 7:50 pm
randomclaret2 wrote:Will we have money but 'not want to pay over the odds ' in January ?
It’s a good job too mate. We’ll end up like Portsmouth if we pay 2 million more than our own valuation.
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by Chester Perry » Fri Nov 23, 2018 7:51 pm
If it works out well - how long before Brendan talks up the appointment and the process behind it all the while plugging UCFB
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by Cirrus_Minor » Sat Nov 24, 2018 12:22 am
Anything that helps out recruitment policy can’t be x bad thing based upon the abysmal performance during last close season. Welcome Mike Rigg, just hope your not too late.
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by MRG » Sat Nov 24, 2018 10:01 am
IanMcL wrote:The one we cooled off on.
He was number 1 target, we certainly did not cool off on him. The club were disappointed that we missed out on him
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by Burnleyareback2 » Sat Nov 24, 2018 10:58 pm
Is Ya Ya coming now?
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by ClaretTony » Sun Nov 25, 2018 2:18 pm
Chester Perry wrote:If it works out well - how long before Brendan talks up the appointment and the process behind it all the while plugging UCFB
Ha ha - thankfully didn't get his way when we appointed Dyche
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by Bosscat » Sun Nov 25, 2018 2:34 pm
Burnleyareback2 wrote:Is Ya Ya coming now?
No No
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by ashtonlongsider » Sun Nov 25, 2018 5:00 pm
Time will certainly tell whether or not it's a good appointment. Bit surprised as I thought Warburton was nailed on. Think the guy will be best tested in the summer, as I can't see us betting the ranch in January. Thats unless we sell someone for big bucks which will probably be unlikely.
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by claretspice » Sun Nov 25, 2018 5:31 pm
CV looks solid. You can never really judge these people from the outside looking in because they rarely have the last word in recruitment, or anything else measurable externally. They're paid to deliver a service to their chairman, owner and possibly first team manager internally, and so its to these people that they are accountable - not to fans.
I'm not sure anyone should expect him to deliver too many instant results in January, either, for the same reason. He'll have been in post 4 weeks when the transfer window opens. Of course, he should deliver instant impact in terms of helping Dyche and Garlick get deals done and giving us more capacity to move negotiations forwards on multiple fronts, but he's going to be working under the direction of Garlick in terms of strategy and budget. And to the extent he's been brought into scout, its realistically going to take longer than a month for him to identify players who meet our needs who aren't already on our radar, and to get Dyche (who ultimately signs of all deals) on board with those new suggestions - again, he'll be working to Dyche's order.
Ultimately this is a background job and I suspect the key to our success in the transfer market remains reconciling Garlick's clear caution when it comes to budget with Dyche's reluctance to gamble on targets about whom he isn't 100% certain he knows everything there is to know.
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by ClaretTony » Mon Nov 26, 2018 11:17 am
claretspice wrote:CV looks solid. You can never really judge these people from the outside looking in because they rarely have the last word in recruitment, or anything else measurable externally. They're paid to deliver a service to their chairman, owner and possibly first team manager internally, and so its to these people that they are accountable - not to fans.
I'm not sure anyone should expect him to deliver too many instant results in January, either, for the same reason. He'll have been in post 4 weeks when the transfer window opens. Of course, he should deliver instant impact in terms of helping Dyche and Garlick get deals done and giving us more capacity to move negotiations forwards on multiple fronts, but he's going to be working under the direction of Garlick in terms of strategy and budget. And to the extent he's been brought into scout, its realistically going to take longer than a month for him to identify players who meet our needs who aren't already on our radar, and to get Dyche (who ultimately signs of all deals) on board with those new suggestions - again, he'll be working to Dyche's order.
Ultimately this is a background job and I suspect the key to our success in the transfer market remains reconciling Garlick's clear caution when it comes to budget with Dyche's reluctance to gamble on targets about whom he isn't 100% certain he knows everything there is to know.
I think that last sentence sums it all up although I would hope, in time, Rigg will be able to take on a more significant role, certainly in terms of recruitment. Interesting too that we are now merging, in effect, first team and academy recruitment under him.
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by JohnDearyMe » Mon Nov 26, 2018 11:34 pm
Well the pressure is already building on this guy. Looks like he's going to have to help us sort out 4-5 new first team players this January to help try and keep us up
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by tiger76 » Mon Nov 26, 2018 11:43 pm
4-5 new first teamers in January JDM,no chance of this happening,at best we'll get a couple over the line,Championship players looking to make the step up,no established Premier League stars will join the likes of us,or any other possible relegation candidates.
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by cricketfieldclarets » Mon Nov 26, 2018 11:45 pm
The frightening thing is its 7 games before the window opens. And it usually takes us 3 weeks. So may as well be 10!!!