Did Ben Mee tell home fans to f@@k off at end of match

[TVC15]

For me and I guess for the majority of fans we would all gladly take dogs abuse for 90 minutes a week to receive £50k a week in return.

If there were a set of stocks in Towneley Park and a notice up saying sit here and be abused for 90 minutes every Saturday and receive £50k the queue stretch all round the Park.

Seriously stupid analogy. In what possible world would somebody who is nowhere near good enough at something receive a wage the same as those who are very good at that same thing ?
Your second bit about those stocks being set up would be funny but for you actually trying to make a serious point !

[RocketLawnChair]

And I saw Andy Payton get a good ******* hiding in the Yorke House !! You crack on MACCA don’t listen to LC.,

[Lancasterclaret]

Professional footballers now are slightly fitter and have a much better, er, "diet" than the likes of payts did RLC!

[Damo]

A mate of mine once offered Damien Duff out in the toilets at utopia in Blackburn.
Duff filled him in there and then and the lad ended up in the sun with the headline "Duffed up"

[Bordeauxclaret]

When you say “filled him in”...

[MACCA]

MACCA, a professional footballer would completely fill you in if you tried anything.

Remember that bloke at Rovers with Westwood?

They are a lot stronger than they look

You are of course as always, correct.

However I'd like to think I'd find another gear, if he or another abused one of my kids, certainly enough to put up a fight anyhow.

[MACCA]

And I saw Andy Payton get a good ******* hiding in the Yorke House !! You crack on MACCA don’t listen to LC.,

Its all hypothetical, however I didn't swear at him, he didn't abuse me or one if my kids.

I said if he had done ( which why would he ) then I'd end his career.

I'm more confused to those that wouldn't do so if their child was abused, as the abuser is a footballer and a "athlete"
Surely no matter how big or small you'd put ( or at least attempt) them in their place.

I feel sorry for some of the kids if their parents would turn a blind eye to such thing.
I always believed any parent would do ANYTHING to protect their child, obviously there are some that stop if it gets to the abuse stage...

[Lord Beamish]

Its all hypothetical, however I didn't swear at him, he didn't abuse me or one if my kids.

I said if he had done ( which why would he ) then I'd end his career.

I'm more confused to those that wouldn't do so if their child was abused, as the abuser is a footballer and a "athlete"
Surely no matter how big or small you'd put ( or at least attempt) them in their place.

I feel sorry for some of the kids if their parents would turn a blind eye to such thing.
I always believed any parent would do ANYTHING to protect their child, obviously there are some that stop if it gets to the abuse stage...

I’m sorry mate but this sounds like virtue signalling of the most cringeworthy nature.

[ClaretRock]

Wow how many fans get chips on there shoulders when our players start earning premier League wages. Tarky bought a nice new car let's get on his back because he was playing with an injury and had a couple of bad games Ben Mee wanted a contract that other Premier League CBs are on who have nowhere near been as good as him in previous seasons, now he is going through his first patch of not consistently been MOTM candidate, he's only playing for the money it's all he ever cared about!!!! Grow a set the lad is committed and has passion and is improving over the last 3-4 games.

[Lancasterclaret]

If my kid screams abuse at another player and he reacts by telling him to **** off, I'd say to my kid "thats why you don't scream abuse at them"

I think its very important to teach kids the possible consequences of their actions.

Saying that, my lad (whose has had a Mee shirt every season!) would probably go "Ben Mee swore at me. AT ME! ACE! WHERE IS MY PHONE! SWEAR AT ME AGAIN BEN"

[MACCA]

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If my kid screams abuse at another player and he reacts by telling him to **** off, I'd say to my kid "thats why you don't scream abuse at them"

I think its very important to teach kids the possible consequences of their actions.

Saying that, my lad (whose has had a Mee shirt every season!) would probably go "Ben Mee swore at me. AT ME! ACE! WHERE IS MY PHONE! SWEAR AT ME AGAIN BEN"

Now you've moved the goal posts, I didn't say if my child had abused Ben Mee that's how I'd act should Ben retaliate.,
I said iF Mee had abused my child ( and as stated why would he ) then that's how I'd act. 2 completely different scenarios which would be dealt with in 2 very different ways. ( although my children have been brought up, so they don't abuse anyone anyway )

[MACCA]

I’m sorry mate but this sounds like virtue signalling of the most cringeworthy nature.

As you can most probably tell, I'm not very bright, please can you elaborate / explain.

[Lancasterclaret]

Great, as its all hypothetical.

No parent would put up with anyone abusing their kid but if they were giving out to a player who gave it back, I'd be much more inclined (like you its very unlikely to happen as my kids are taught not to do it and be respectful*) to tell them it was a pretty important life lesson.

*to others at any rate, think we are failing when it comes to respect for us!

[MACCA]

Great, as its all hypothetical.

No parent would put up with anyone abusing their kid but if they were giving out to a player who gave it back, I'd be much more inclined (like you its very unlikely to happen as my kids are taught not to do it and be respectful*) to tell them it was a pretty important life lesson.

*to others at any rate, think we are failing when it comes to respect for us!

Then we are on the same page.

I did use the words IF for a reason, and made it clear I wouldn't expect a player to abuse for no reason.

( having met several of our players for more than just a hello, they'd still refrain from a reaction should they ever have the unpleasant experience of a minor abusing them )

As pointed out above this now needs forgetting about for all concerned, it won't do the club or player any good it keep in the spotlight.

I'd even go as far as deleating the thread. You don't want the papers getting wind of this and quoting things.

[Leisure]

I said if he had done ( which why would he ) then I'd end his career..

Wow!

[Lord Beamish]

As you can most probably tell, I'm not very bright, please can you elaborate / explain.

I am strongly suspicious of anyone who makes bold and public claims about how they would do something I’d expect as a matter of course from them, ie. protect their kids from abuse and harm. Why would they even need to state that out loud? I’d take it as axiomatic.

[MACCA]

I am strongly suspicious of anyone who makes bold and public claims about how they would do something I’d expect as a matter of course from them, ie. protect their kids from abuse and harm. Why would they even need to state that out loud? I’d take it as axiomatic.

I see thanks for the explination.
I know it seems a given, however it appears it may not be the case.

I think the thread is only doing harm to both the club and player, and the longer kept in the spot light, will only be used as a stick with which to beat the club, player, fans etc.

It should IMO be removed now as we know all the facts and the matter has been dealt with.

[claretonthecoast1882]

I take it the sexual predator you recently started a thread about has been "sorted" macca, I mean he could be a danger to your kid rather than just swearing at him

[MACCA]

I take it the sexual predator you recently started a thread about has been "sorted" macca, I mean he could be a danger to your kid rather than just swearing at him

Im hoping so, the school has now gone back to its usually closing time.

We've been assured the police and school have been working together to make sure student safety isn't compromised.

Although there's been reports of similar things happening at a school at the other end of town, so hoping the problem has been sorted rather than just moved on.

[JTClaret]

Do you know what, I wasn't particularly supportive for 90minutes.
As long as he wants to give his best, in my eyes he's allowed to be as frustrated as I was.

Easy to go overboard in these situations... It's not like he went to every fan and said f##k off to them personally, but I imagine what was been shouted to him personally probably touched a nerve when you've got had a poor game and scored an own goal.

This is the same player who is a cult hero for the 'Ben Mee Block'

[Spike]

Ben Mee has my full support .Some shocking comments being hurled at the players from the terraces and messageboards.

[Cheshireclaret]

I don’t think anyone on here is actually defending Ben Mee and saying what he did was right, merely understanding the reasons that led him to do what he did.

I’m sure the club will fine him, he has issued an apology and as captain for the night, that makes it a little more disappointing but I’d be angry with any player in a Burnley shirt giving it back in such an arbitrary fashion......and that’s the point.

By gesturing or shouting at a stand full of people which includes children, you are directing your anger at them by association. He didn’t mean that, but that’s the disappointing element of it. Like when Drogba threw a coin back into the crowd (and no, I’m not suggesting they’re on the same level of seriousness), he has no idea if that was going to hit a child in the head or eye. He just threw it back from whence it came.

Players do get dog’s abuse from fans but then it does make me laugh when some of those responsible for said abuse recoil at the response. I recall Billy Turley, a Northampton goalkeeper from many moons ago who spent 45 minutes in front of the away end getting all sorts of abuse shouted at him, during a match that ended with us relegating Northampton. He turned and gestured to us after the final whistle and all hell broke loose with people who’d been questioning every aspect of his life five minutes earlier, demanding he was arrested!

It doesn’t excuse what he did, but I understand why he did it. Ben Mee probably didn’t get anything like that level of abuse yesterday but I understand why he was angry.

[jrgbfc]

Tbh I haven't particularly got any issue with the players getting a bit of stick after the way they've been performing or Ben Mee giving a bit back. Neither side comes out of it very well really.

[cricketfieldclarets]

Posted on Instagram apologising

Fair play to him

[cricketfieldclarets]

Takes guts, fair play.

Hopefully the fans show the same mentality (and commitment) and also move on. I doubt it though.

[cricketfieldclarets]

Be nice to see the rest of the team show the same passion currently!

And the fans!

[MACCA]

Hopefully the fans show the same mentality (and commitment) and also move on. I doubt it though.

It's over, a silly rant at a few ( probably ) is its after a painful defeat, apologised, which is never easy.

Hopefully get a big cheer next game and can put it behind him with a big contribution to 3 massive points.

[beddie]

Interestingly, if any one of those fans bumped into Ben today, let's say in the supermarket and they were on their own I bet you they would speak to him as if it was an honour, if you get my meaning. Sometimes in these situations once one fan starts something the others feel obliged to follow, a bit like sheep. I don't blame Ben in the slightest, if you give it then you have to take it.

[RocketLawnChair]

Ben Mee has apologised, He admits to being frustrated as were many others in the ground so for me that should be that until the next home game when the announcer should leave and NUMBER SIX BEN MEE until the last name called and he can receive a louder cheer, then hopefully at that point everyone can kiss and make up and Ben returns to something like what we have become used to.

[Healeywoodclaret]

I like Ben Mee, his apology shows that he reacted to abuse when feeling gutted after a loss, but he cares for sure

He cares because he's a true Professional..... Not because he's a Burnley Fan. But if he left the club tomorrow I'm sure he'd remember all the good times he had here.

[RocketLawnChair]

And on a slightly different subject but in the same stand please can we stop applauding the opposition goalie as jogs towards us at the start of the half to protect the oppo goal it boils my ****. At the other end Hart is getting dogs abuse from our oppositions fans.

[tim_noone]

Possible song for the cricketfield end....hes only human after all.......hes only human after all dont put the blame on mee!! Quite catchy it could be a hit!

[claptrappers_union]

100% on Bens side

[cricketfieldclarets]

Possible song for the cricketfield end....hes only human after all.......hes only human after all dont put the blame on mee!! Quite catchy it could be a hit!

Brilliant

[tim_noone]

Brilliant

Link

[cricketfieldclarets]

Link

Youre welcome

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[Cleveleys_claret]

Like Ben Mee but come on that apology on insta is a joke. Should of either kept silent on it or put a post up through the club apologising. Also should be donating his match fee to a local charity.

Just hope it fires up the squad for the next game

[maccclaret]

In the Orient Game season I remember Whooshy turning to the Bob Lord (yes, the Bob Lord) and requesting "will you just shut up" to one of the denizens giving him dog's abuse as he shanked another clearance onto the roof.

Back then we were outraged he didn't say please.

[Bin Ont Turf]

Could have done with Ben on here last night.

He would have been like a cocaine fuelled tourette's sufferer.

[Cleveleys_claret]

Funny how when James Mcclean had a pop at his own fans he was an awful human being but when one of our own does it it is acceptable

[Burnleyareback2]

Suggest he only said what most people sat around these people where thinking.

Move on.

[Rileybobs]

If Ben Mee came into my living room, carrying a pack of matches and a jerry can of gasoline, and then proceeded to threaten to set fire to my kids, I should say; “Oi, Mee! No!”