Dyche says dont expect a flurry of signings

[cricketfieldclarets]

Surely a flurry (6 or 7) would be as bad as none? Trying to remake the side in one window. 3 would be better. Don't jump on me. Just an opinion...

Absolutely. The problem is we always overpromise and under deliver.

Id interpret the statement as meaning we will sign one player. 2 at an absolute push.

[Il Duce]

Wasn’t expecting Rigg to be the sole reason we brought men in, I was thinking our transfer activity would be largely dictated by our current plight and a search for a means to stop it.

[dsr]

Without even thinking about it, there’s

Steve Clarke,
Fat Sam,
Martin O’Neill
David Moyes

All far superior tacticians to Dyche and nowhere near as rigid.

There would be a raft of managers from Europe aswell that would be interested but we don’t go down that route.

You posted that without thinking? You do surprise me.

[Lancasterclaret]

Actually reading the article, its a lot less worrying.

We all know we've got targets, its whether we can get them over the line.

[joey13]

Actually reading the article, its a lot less worrying.

We all know we've got targets, its whether we can get them over the line.

Rodriguez and Dawson

[Lancasterclaret]

Think one is a winger, no idea who though

[Goobs]

How dare he! I expected nothing less than a statement we would sign a minimum of seven players all at a minimum of £20m each and that they would all waltz straight into our first team. Dry powder... No ambition... Wasted opportunity and some other stuff... Dyche, Garlick, Rigg, Baldwin and Woan Out Heaton to fill all their roles as he shouts a lot!

[Burnleyareback2]

7 games in December to prove me wrong then. Just out of interest how many out of the 7 games do you think we will win? I'm going for none and dyche sacked in new year.

That’s the spirit

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[Vino blanco]

We normally have anywhere between £15 and £25 million pounds worth of players on the bench, so I'd be happy to get them all playing properly first.

[CBT]

Dyche will be out of work in January, so he doesn't have to worry about it.

He wouldn't be out of work for long
He's be snapped up within days and then we really would be a laughing stock

[PutTheWheelieBinsOut]

I think Dyche's style of play doesn't attract technical gifted quality up and coming footballers, why would someone that is good at football want to come and play Dycheball unless its for the wages and because we don't pay the wages we are just left with journeymen.

It's akin to being a skilled carpenter who's used to building the finest wood furniture being offered a job assembling furniture kits from IKEA, you might do it, if you really had to and the money was decent, but you wouldn't enjoy it.

[HiroshimaClaret]

The Steve Clark sacked at Reading? FFS.

That Sean Dyche sacked at Watford...

[Dyched]

He wouldn't be out of work for long
He's be snapped up within days and then we really would be a laughing stock

With the way Dyche sets up a team he’d need success fairly quickly anywhere else or he’d be gone just as quick.

[HiroshimaClaret]

If that is the entirety of the quotes then this is the mother of all non-stories. I am incredibly frustrated with Dyche at the moment and actually believe we should be discussing the possibility of going in a different direction but to sling this mud at him (not saying the OP was...has meandered in that direction) is ridiculous. Nothing he said is anything other than reasonable.

p.s. don`t know where Reecey stands on the whole subject.

[houseboy]

So, for clarity, you’ve watched all but 5 or so games in the past 50 years and you’ve concluded that our most successful part of that 50 years isn’t good enough and you’re losing interest?

Rightho...

I'm guessing that what he was trying to say is that despite all the ups and downs over the last 50 years (which he has obviously witnessed) we have never in our entire history, even allowing for inflation, had as much money as we have now and still the board won't spend anything approaching the money needed in this division. We are, apparently, awash with money if reports are to be believed. I have said for weeks that if we are bottom around Christmas we will see no attempt to buy the players we need because the board will resign themselves to having tons of money in the Championship.

I think a few of us are getting a little tired of supporting the Royal Bank of Burnley because at the moment that is how it feels, all take and no give.
As for Dyche being gone in January I think if he is it may be that he walks out of frustration.

[Reecey1987]

If that is the entirety of the quotes then this is the mother of all non-stories. I am incredibly frustrated with Dyche at the moment and actually believe we should be discussing the possibility of going in a different direction but to sling this mud at him (not saying the OP was...has meandered in that direction) is ridiculous. Nothing he said is anything other than reasonable.

p.s. don`t know where Reecey stands on the whole subject.

I only posted the link for posters to read themselves . I really hope dyche gets backed and given the chance to land his number 1 targets and get us out this mess we find ourselves in

[LoveCurryPies]

I'm not expecting many signings, however I would like 1 striker and 1 quality midfielder.

[MACCA]

I think a few of us are getting a little tired of supporting the Royal Bank of Burnley because at the moment that is how it feels, all take and no give.
As for Dyche being gone in January I think if he is it may be that he walks out of frustration.

The first part is correct, however itd take a very silly man to "walk away" from 70k a week wages. SD has been very savvy in regards to his career choices so far,, and far from a silly man.
I don't expect him to walk away from anything.

Not many chairmen or clubs would accept some of the demands he makes.

[Longside4evr]

As for Dyche being gone in January I think if he is it may be that he walks out of frustration.

Not on his contact he won't unless he takes up another job first and wavers his brake of contractual agreement.

[summitclaret]

Like any walk of life you gave to be thinking about the present and crucially the future. For coming up to 12m now we are not far of relegation form. The usual suspects will defend the club whatever, but it is serious now.

We ought to have 2 new starters in midfield in early jan, but we all know that won't happen. More importantly we need to stop playing 442 starting this weekend.

[Rick_Muller]

We all need to get a handle on the realities of what it means to be at the top table, and a "small fish in that massive ocean".

Ignore the obscene amounts of cash that the club receives - the vast majority of that cash will be budgeted for the expense of actually having playing staff who are able to play to the standards required and the infrastructure that is being built to increase the chances of the club being successful for years to come. Should we drop down, the income will go, albeit with parachute payments to ensure we dont implode. The board are working withing those restraints, we dont have a bottomless pit like many other clubs appear to have. Its the same old issues that keep getting discussed on here "but we've got gazillions of cash, why cant we buy Messi...?" - because we just cant afford to: a/ buy him or b/ pay him you muppet... extreme example, granted, but so many people forget its not just the transfer fees; its wages and bonuses; and agent fees etc. Too many people just dont have a clue.

We may make some signings in January, we may not. If we do, it will be because they are needed, if we dont it's because we worked within a budget for our club and we wont get held to ransom.

[THEWELLERNUT70]

Luck.

If ever you wanted to know when a fellow posters mission on this board is nothing more and nothing less than to be a forum TROLL read that post

[jrgbfc]

Even if we do manage to bring someone in will be April before Dyche trusted them to play.

[houseboy]

The first part is correct, however itd take a very silly man to "walk away" from 70k a week wages. SD has been very savvy in regards to his career choices so far,, and far from a silly man.
I don't expect him to walk away from anything.

Not many chairmen or clubs would accept some of the demands he makes.

You are correct - I don't think he's going anywhere anytime soon. I suppose I meant that he is more likely to walk than be sacked because I don't think the latter is even a consideration.

[HB Claret]

Personally think the summer window was our best opportunity to do real business as we were in Europe, had just finished 7th and were apparently in the up. Good prospects for the future but now we are struggling with form, confidence us low and with a possible relegation in the cards why would someone choose Burnley - apart from it being the best club in the world

[MACCA]

Personally think the summer window was our best opportunity to do real business as we were in Europe, had just finished 7th and were apparently in the up. Good prospects for the future but now we are struggling with form, confidence us low and with a possible relegation in the cards why would someone choose Burnley - apart from it being the best club in the world

Agreed, 7th place and Europe may as well not have happened, it's not been capitalised on to progress, if anything we've gone backwards as a club or good proposition to join.

[Safron]

Wouldn't be surprised if dyche went in for Charlie Adam now he's not in the picture at stoke dyche type of player cheap and over 30

[Spijed]

Agreed, 7th place and Europe may as well not have happened, it's not been capitalised on to progress, if anything we've gone backwards as a club or good proposition to join.

Let's be fair. Every one outside Burnley knew we'd over performed and we were never likely to repeat such a season.

[kentonclaret]

Isn't that what they call

"A statement of the bleeding' obvious"

You would have to be a very naive supporter to expect anything else.

[Spijed]

Isn't that what they call

"A statement of the bleeding' obvious"

Exactly, and that's why better players are not going to be queuing up to join us when they know we'll be in a relegation battle most seasons whilst in the Prem.

[jrgbfc]

That's why we need to be going for young, hungry lads who aren't getting a look in at the big clubs. We can sell ourselves as a stepping stone to bigger things. Have a good season or two for us and you'll put yourself in the shop window. Instead we go after old crocks like Jon Walters.

[Goobs]

Exactly, and that's why better players are not going to be queuing up to join us when they know we'll be in a relegation battle most seasons whilst in the Prem.

But we had some Europa league qualifiers in July, we could have enticed pretty much anyone with that promise. #missedopportunity

[MACCA]

Let's be fair. Every one outside Burnley knew we'd over performed and we were never likely to repeat such a season.

Agreed

[boatshed bill]

Let's be fair. Every one outside Burnley knew we'd over performed and we were never likely to repeat such a season.

...and many within Burnley.
Unfortunately the 7th place finish glossed over our problems

[Rumbletonk]

Surely a flurry (6 or 7) would be as bad as none? Trying to remake the side in one window. 3 would be better. Don't jump on me. Just an opinion...

A flurry is definately over 5 and in quick succession. So reading between the lines, 3 signings. One rapid tricky ******, a charismatic midfield general and Leighton Baines

[Rumbletonk]

Let's be fair. Every one outside Burnley knew we'd over performed and we were never likely to repeat such a season.

They also thought getting 3 points against us home or away was going to be a proper scrap. That's gone

[Top Claret]

I certainly hope we don't push the boat out in January and I certainly don't think we will.
Our directors have not got the financial clout to bank roll BFC, so I for one hope we sign no one.

[Spijed]

...and many within Burnley.
Unfortunately the 7th place finish glossed over our problems

What problems did we have last season?

[boatshed bill]

What problems did we have last season?

Poor win ratio after New Year?

Oh, but we finished 7th!!!

[Rumbletonk]

Mainly creativity and pace. I would add meaningful passing game but we did see that at times. They were offset by other qualities though such as tenacity, energy, belief, determination etc. I think last season could be summed up in 1 game, Liverpool at home. Ugly, determined, battle, superb stuff

[JohnMac]

I have never expected a flurry of signings at any point in recent times because we don't need them.

What is needed is an ability to change the game plan when it isn't working. We have players on the bench to do this but have reverted to the tactics of our previous relegation season with SD.

Set up not to lose, try to stifle the opposition and break up the play. Don't get too adventurous, keep it tight.

If we are losing wait until the final few minutes and then try to salvage a point by throwing on a few subs, or not.

[jrgbfc]

What problems did we have last season?

Only managing 36 goals in a 38 game season? Which meant we were reliant on having a great defensive record. Now that has gone we are screwed.

[JohnMac]

With the way Dyche sets up a team he’d need success fairly quickly anywhere else or he’d be gone just as quick.

Sean Dyche did very well at Watford and is a great fit at Burnley, not too disimilar to David Moyes at Preston, then Everton.

Dyche will only find his limit once he has tried elsewhere but I personally think he is only suited to a task similar to what he has done here, or maybe abroad.

I just can't see many clubs in the current Premier League who would consider him an upgrade on what they already have.

[jrgbfc]

Sean Dyche did very well at Watford and is a great fit at Burnley, not too disimilar to David Moyes at Preston, then Everton.

Dyche will only find his limit once he has tried elsewhere but I personally think he is only suited to a task similar to what he has done here, or maybe abroad.

I just can't see many clubs in the current Premier League who would consider him an upgrade on what they already have.

Does Dyche strike you as the sort of bloke who would be willing to spread his wings and move abroad? There's not a chance in hell of him getting another Premier league job. Even a dinosaur like Warnock is showing more tactical nous and flexibility.

[TsarBomba]

Let's be fair. Every one outside Burnley knew we'd over performed and we were never likely to repeat such a season.

Irrelevant.

Yeah, the whole football world knew we’d overachieved, but it doesn’t excuse our utter incompetence to capitalise on what will be our highest ever finish.

The last four months has confirmed we’re small time, and one single summer of incompetence and unwillingness to invest threatens to unravel years of steady building.

I accept our standing in the grand scheme, and every year we stay in the PL is success in itself. But the position we find ourselves in is completely self inflicted, which is why the club, board and Dyche get very little sympathy.

[Winstonswhite]

Does Dyche strike you as the sort of bloke who would be willing to spread his wings and move abroad? There's not a chance in hell of him getting another Premier league job. Even a dinosaur like Warnock is showing more tactical nous and flexibility.

Did Dyche not show tactical nous and flexibility in getting a seventh place finish??!!!

[Spijed]

I accept our standing in the grand scheme, and every year we stay in the PL is success in itself. But the position we find ourselves in is completely self inflicted, which is why the club, board and Dyche get very little sympathy.

So on one hand you are saying it's a success if we stay in the PL, yet on the other it's self inflicted?

How can it all be self inflicted if you are admitting it's hard to stay in the Prem?

As for sympathy, everyone outside of BFC knows our limitations and see us as a fantastically run club, and the model for many others to follow.

Even with Leicester winning the league our footballing achievements last season were season as one of the greatest in modern times. That's why SD was being on the shortlist for manager of the year.

[TsarBomba]

So on one hand you are saying it's a success if we stay in the PL, yet on the other it's self inflicted?

How can it all be self inflicted if you are admitting it's hard to stay in the Prem?

As for sympathy, everyone outside of BFC knows our limitations and see us as a fantastically run club, and the model for many others to follow.

Even with Leicester winning the league our footballing achievements last season were season as one of the greatest in modern times. That's why SD was being on the shortlist for manager of the year.

Outside of the top 6, anyone can go down, that’s what I accept.

There is no guarantee of avoiding relegation.

But the situation we find ourselves in now is ENTIRELY self inflicted. To think otherwise is delusional.

If we can honestly say that on and off the field, as a club, we have strived to improve on last season, then fine, but we can’t. We sat back in the summer, lit a huge fat Cuban, and thought ‘we’ve cracked this Premier League lark’.

[TsarBomba]

For whatever reason, there was a conscious decision in the summer not to invest.

We thought because we’d finished 7th, there was sufficient in the tank to see us through this year with minimal investment.

The Chairman even hinted in an interview in pre-season that he would accept a lower league finish because of the EL commitment.

That was our mentality before the season had already started. Of course, finishing 7th again was nigh on improbable, but jeez, you don’t come out and say it. What kind of message does that put out?

[jojomk1]

For whatever reason, there was a conscious decision in the summer not to invest.

We thought because we’d finished 7th, there was sufficient in the tank to see us through this year with minimal investment.

The Chairman even hinted in an interview in pre-season that he would accept a lower league finish because of the EL commitment.

That was our mentality before the season had already started. Of course, finishing 7th again was nigh on improbable, but jeez, you don’t come out and say it. What kind of message does that put out?

Sorry, but I really don't know how you can come to that assumption

The fact that we had gone into the Europa League made everyone (inc Garlick) realise the squad needed to be strengthened to deal with the extra games

We were reported as putting in several bids for Dawson and Jay Rod so money was certainly there - just not as much as WBA were trying to squeeze out of us

The fact that Dyche was so obsessed with those two players he, and he alone, took his eye off the need for replacements in other areas

I would even suggest that the last minute signings were driven by the recruitment team and Garlick rather than the manager (which would go some way to explain why Vydra is being ignored)

Given our current league position it is going to be hard to recruit players good enough to walk into the first team. We don't need any more "squad" players hence SD playing down transfer activity in Jan