Could Joe Hart be the main problem?

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Re: Could Joe Hart be the main problem?

Post by kentonclaret » Mon Dec 03, 2018 4:31 pm

I just hope the club saw fit to add relegation clauses to the contracts so that if we are relegated they are on much reduced wages.

How many of them are worth retaining anyway?

If they don't want to play Dyche ball in the PL why should their attitude be different in the Championship?

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Re: Could Joe Hart be the main problem?

Post by joey13 » Mon Dec 03, 2018 5:09 pm

kentonclaret wrote:I just hope the club saw fit to add relegation clauses to the contracts so that if we are relegated they are on much reduced wages.

How many of them are worth retaining anyway?

If they don't want to play Dyche ball in the PL why should their attitude be different in the Championship?
Including Dyche but I very much doubt it

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Re: Could Joe Hart be the main problem?

Post by bumba » Tue Dec 04, 2018 6:50 am

Tall Paul wrote:This is not true.

Why do posters keep misrepresenting stats to make it look like we've been doing worse than we actually are?
Sorry my bad I was a few weeks out so tell me which stat tells you were not doing that bad:

5 wins from December 12th to the end of last season

Or

7 wins within 90 minutes in nearly a year?

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Re: Could Joe Hart be the main problem?

Post by Tall Paul » Tue Dec 04, 2018 7:36 am

bumba wrote:Sorry my bad I was a few weeks out so tell me which stat tells you were not doing that bad:

5 wins from December 12th to the end of last season

Or

7 wins within 90 minutes in nearly a year?
Both of them tell me were (sic) not doing as bad as you said when you misrepresented the stat.

Note that that doesn't mean we're doing fine, just not as bad as people like you are making out. The only stat that really matters is the number of points we end the season with relative to the other teams in the league. Since you want to look at the last year, we've gained 38 points in 38 games in that time, which would be good enough to stay up.

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Re: Could Joe Hart be the main problem?

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Wed Dec 05, 2018 5:00 pm

Mala591 wrote:There is only one way to solve this ongoing 'debate'

Play Heaton for a few games and see what happens
We did. Against Burton and Olympiakos. He was at fault in both games.

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Re: Could Joe Hart be the main problem?

Post by Rick_Muller » Wed Dec 05, 2018 5:58 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:We did. Against Burton and Olympiakos. He was at fault in both games.
Not a fair or true reflection mate, both games we played an “under strength” team as far as I recall. Though I do admit the goal that went through him at Burton was a mistake, but that does disappear with time playing - which he won’t get because Hart is “showboating” every game ;) (tongue firmly in cheek, I know it’ll rile some...)

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Re: Could Joe Hart be the main problem?

Post by joey13 » Wed Dec 05, 2018 8:57 pm

Obviously not
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Re: Could Joe Hart be the main problem?

Post by ElectroClaret » Wed Dec 05, 2018 9:07 pm

Incredible save.

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Re: Could Joe Hart be the main problem?

Post by MACCA » Wed Dec 05, 2018 9:29 pm

:cry:
ElectroClaret wrote:Incredible save.
First Liverpool goal looked suspect. He walked to within 2 yards of it.

Don't like keepers watching it go in.

Been good tonight though Burnley, no problem with that.
Looked to have fight in them, just 2 soft and avoidable goals Conceeded
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Re: Could Joe Hart be the main problem?

Post by Pstotto » Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:45 pm

Twice in two games he's just watched with no effort to save, like he doesn't do those kind of saves or they are beneath him. I sometimes think he's a paid actor, like the flap for cross goal at Fulham, headed goals right through his hands where he's just jumped up and let it in and at the World Cup in 2014.

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Re: Could Joe Hart be the main problem?

Post by IanMcL » Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:13 am

I'm with Pep.
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Re: Could Joe Hart be the main problem?

Post by mdd2 » Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:17 am

All three went in down and to his left. City fans will tell you Hart is suspect down and to his left
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Re: Could Joe Hart be the main problem?

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:51 am

mdd2 wrote:All three went in down and to his left. City fans will tell you Hart is suspect down and to his left
My dad used to have a theory about this when we played junior football. He always said keepers struggled down low to their left and always put penalties there :o

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Re: Could Joe Hart be the main problem?

Post by tim_noone » Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:57 am

cricketfieldclarets wrote:My dad used to have a theory about this when we played junior football. He always said keepers struggled down low to their left and always put penalties there :o
Fact son.... Fact :D

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Re: Could Joe Hart be the main problem?

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Thu Dec 06, 2018 1:05 am

tim_noone wrote:Fact son.... Fact :D
Son? :o

Are you telling me something... :? :? :D

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Re: Could Joe Hart be the main problem?

Post by ClaretRock » Thu Dec 06, 2018 1:13 am

Tough on Hart but I would like to see Heaton given a chance. Although Hart has made some fantastic saves I feel his presence in the box, dealing with crosses and high balls is lacking and puts the defence under more pressure than if Heaton was in organising the defence or Pope plucking anything in the box out of the sky.

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Re: Could Joe Hart be the main problem?

Post by CBT » Thu Dec 06, 2018 1:18 am

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Son? :o

Are you telling me something... :? :? :D
Haha u kind of missed that one
Or got there abit late

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