Crystal Palace v Burnley - Player Ratings

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Crystal Palace v Burnley - Player Ratings

Postby ClaretTony » Sat Dec 01, 2018 5:16 pm

Please leave ratings for all players who have played 20 mins or more.

Scoring is from 3 to 10 as follows:

10 - Out of this World
9 - Excellent
8 - Very Good
7 - Good
6 - Average
5 - Below Par
4 - Poor
3 - Abysmal
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Re: Crystal Palace v Burnley - Player Ratings

Postby MACCA » Sat Dec 01, 2018 5:23 pm

Hart 8 kept it respectable, MOM
Taylor 7 did 9k
Mee 5
Long 6
Lowton 5
Lennon 4
Cork 4
Defour 4 his first half performance is his worst in a Burnley shirt. Mis placed pass time after time, unlike him with his quality
JBG 5
Hendrick 5
Wood 4
Brady 5

I didn't think it could get worse than the battering Wolves and Huddersfield gave us, but it did.
An out of form Palace side with no striker playing could have had 4 or 5 today.

It'll be interesting to hear what Mr Dyche thinks of that display.
We currently look the worst side in the league, and relegation looks a real possibility.

Bottom by Xmas is my prediction, it's not a sticky patch, its been an 11 month nose dive.
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Re: Crystal Palace v Burnley - Player Ratings

Postby BFC123 » Sat Dec 01, 2018 5:25 pm

Hart 8
Lowton 5
Mee 4
Long 4
Taylor 5
Lennon 4
Cork 3
Defour 4
JBG 4
Hendrick 3
Wood 3

Vokes 4
Brady 5

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Re: Crystal Palace v Burnley - Player Ratings

Postby burnleymik » Sat Dec 01, 2018 5:28 pm

Hart - 7 - Made some very good saves and generally kept us in it, under a barrage of fire.
Lowton - 4 - Was exposed time after time down that flank. Looked terrified to put a foot in on Zaha.
Long - 5 - Didn't do all that badly considering.
Mee - 3 - Should be embarrassed to be captain on that performance. Wild tackles, poor passing, stood off
Townsend for the goal. Poor all round.
Taylor - 6 -Put himself on the line a couple of times with good blocks, but his positioning looked suspect at times.
That said he did well in comparison to some of his team mates.
Lennon - 4 - Offerred next to nothing in that first half.
Defour - 5 - Mistakes, far too many of them, but he was at least showing for the ball and making half an effort.
Cork - 3 - Where was he? what did he contribute? He is like a lost puppy at the moment, chasing shadows.
Gudmundsson - 5 - Did some decent defensive work and was trying to close people down, but just couldn;t get into
it.
Hendrick - 4 - Offerred next to nothing once again. Why Dyche persists on doing this I have no idea.
Wood - 4- Wasn;t sure what to do here, but can hardly blame him when the ball rarely ever even comes in his direction.

Brady - 5 - A few bits of decent defensive work, but some of his passes were terrible.
Vokes - 5 - Nothing he could do, similar to Wood, hard to rate him properly.

Dyche - 2 - Is he ever going to learn from his mistakes? Too many to mention, but he never tries anything new, even when we are desperate.

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Re: Crystal Palace v Burnley - Player Ratings

Postby BOYSIE31 » Sat Dec 01, 2018 5:31 pm

Hart 9
Lowton 4
Mee 4
Long 4
Taylor 4
Lennon 3
Cork 3
Defour 3
JBG 4
Hendrick 3
Wood 3

Vokes 3
Brady 3

speechless and do not know what to say anymore.
Garlick ask him to walk or have balls and get rid now because we are as good as down and its only just got to december.
We played better football with some passion under Laws than this shite
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Re: Crystal Palace v Burnley - Player Ratings

Postby maidenover » Sat Dec 01, 2018 5:32 pm

Hart 8 MoM
Lowton 5
Mee 5
Long 7
Taylor 5
Lennon 4
Cork 3
Defour 4
JBG 4
Hendrick 4
Wood 4

Vokes 5
Brady 4

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Re: Crystal Palace v Burnley - Player Ratings

Postby Buxtonclaret » Sat Dec 01, 2018 5:34 pm

Hart 7
Lowton 5
Long 7
Med 5
Taylor 6

Lennon 4
Cork 4
Defour 6
JBG 5
Hendrick 4
Wood 4

Vokes 5
Brady 5

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Re: Crystal Palace v Burnley - Player Ratings

Postby ChristheViking » Sat Dec 01, 2018 5:37 pm

Hart 8 - stopped a cricket score

Lowton 3 looked in awe of Zaha
Mee 3 started the rot for the first goal with the laziest giveaway
Long 5
Taylor 7 at least looked interested

Lennon 4 as you were
Defour 4 - he’s in for his passing yes?
Cork 4 in a 5 man midfield he can excel yes?
JBG 3 anonymous

Hendrick 3 waste of time
Wood 4 hard to judge when he has zero service

Brady 3 - looks disinterested

As bad a performance as I can recall. Relegation looks a certainty. It doesn’t seem to matter what system we play we are getting battered.

Zero shots on target is unacceptable. Honestly the Club should be refunding travelling fans for this one.

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Re: Crystal Palace v Burnley - Player Ratings

Postby Vegas Claret » Sat Dec 01, 2018 5:39 pm

Hart 9
Lowton 4
Mee 4
Long 6
Taylor 3
Lennon 3
Cork 3
Defour 3
JBG 4
Hendrick 3
Wood 3

Vokes 3
Brady 3

******* clueless by Dyche again

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Re: Crystal Palace v Burnley - Player Ratings

Postby Braindead » Sat Dec 01, 2018 5:46 pm

Hart 7 some good saves. Prevents it being a cricket score every single week
Lowton 3 Absolutely consistently terrible
Taylor 6 The only player in the back four who wasn't totally shite
Long 5 Ok, but just ok
Mee 3 Goodbye Ben your time is up
Cork 3 like so many others a shadow of last season's player and yet still gets picked week in week out
Defour 4 garbage
JGB 4 offers nothing
Lennon 4 offers nothing
Hendrick 4 Not a 10 ffs Dyche
Wood 3 £15 million for this carthorse?

Brady 4 unable to influence anything
Vokes 4 useless lump

In a nutshell, terrible. I've had enough of this, Dyche needs a win in his next two games or tarra.

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Re: Crystal Palace v Burnley - Player Ratings

Postby JohnMac » Sat Dec 01, 2018 5:47 pm

Hart 8

Not worth scoring anyone else individually so I'll give them all a 4. It was as poor a team performance as we have seen under Dyche who must step up to the plate and shoulder the blame. Either the players don't want to play for him or his tactics and set up is the worst of anyone since Billy Davies.
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Re: Crystal Palace v Burnley - Player Ratings

Postby deanothedino » Sat Dec 01, 2018 5:50 pm

Hart - 8 - Kept it respectable
Lowton - 4
Long - 4 - to blame for the first goal
Mee - 4 - poor
Taylor - 4 - didn't close down for the second goal despite Mee pointing and yell at Townsend for him to do so
Lennon - 4 - Clearly not fit
Defour - 4
Cork - 4
Gudmundsson - 4
Hendrick - 4
Wood - 4 - though he got absolutely no service

Brady - 4 - didn't look bothered

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Re: Crystal Palace v Burnley - Player Ratings

Postby BabylonClaret » Sat Dec 01, 2018 5:51 pm

JohnMac wrote:Hart 8

Not worth scoring anyone else individually so I'll give them all a 4. It was as poor a team performance as we have seen under Dyche who must step up to the plate and shoulder the blame. Either the players don't want to play for him or his tactics and set up is the worst of anyone since Billy Davies.


This
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Re: Crystal Palace v Burnley - Player Ratings

Postby BabylonClaret » Sat Dec 01, 2018 5:53 pm

deanothedino wrote:Taylor - 4 - didn't close down for the second goal despite Mee pointing and yell at Townsend for him to do so


What you mean as mee let Townsend drift away and asked someone else to do his job for him. Can't blame taylor for that?
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Re: Crystal Palace v Burnley - Player Ratings

Postby deanothedino » Sat Dec 01, 2018 5:54 pm

BabylonClaret wrote:What you mean as mee let Townsend drift away and asked someone else to do his job for him. Can't blame taylor for that?

What I mean is Townsend made Mee look like an amateur and then Taylor dallied while watching him smash it home. Got to close him down after he beats Mee.

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Re: Crystal Palace v Burnley - Player Ratings

Postby BabylonClaret » Sat Dec 01, 2018 5:56 pm

deanothedino wrote:What I mean is Townsend made Mee look like an amateur and then Taylor dallied while watching him smash it home. Got to close him down after he beats Mee.

he had no chance of getting anywhere close to him.

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Re: Crystal Palace v Burnley - Player Ratings

Postby kaptin1 » Sat Dec 01, 2018 5:56 pm

Hart 5
Lowton 4
Long 5
Mee 4
Taylor 4
Lennon 3 (Brady 3)
Defour 3 (Vokes 4)
Cork 3
Hendrick 3
Wood 3

That was horrendous. No positives whatsoever. No shape, no skill, no composure, no fight, no confidence, nothing whatsoever. If we play like that against Liverpool they will hit double figures. We look nailed on for relegation at present.

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Re: Crystal Palace v Burnley - Player Ratings

Postby burnley007 » Sat Dec 01, 2018 5:57 pm

Wow

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Re: Crystal Palace v Burnley - Player Ratings

Postby ElectroClaret » Sat Dec 01, 2018 5:58 pm

Hart 5. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Crystal Palace v Burnley - Player Ratings

Postby taio » Sat Dec 01, 2018 6:03 pm

Hart 8
Lowton 4
Long 6
Mee 4
Taylor 5
Lennon 3
Defour 3
Cork 3
Hendrick 3 
Wood 3

Brady 3
Vokes 4

A disgraceful performance. Big changes needed in the side we put out.
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Re: Crystal Palace v Burnley - Player Ratings

Postby Im_not_Robbie_Blake » Sat Dec 01, 2018 6:03 pm

Hart 8
Lowton 5
Long 6
Mee 5
Taylor 7
Lennon 4
Defour 4
Cork 5
Johann 6
Hendrick 5
Wood 4

Brady 4
Vokes 6
Barnes n/a

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Re: Crystal Palace v Burnley - Player Ratings

Postby deanothedino » Sat Dec 01, 2018 6:09 pm

BabylonClaret wrote:he had no chance of getting anywhere close to him.

Nonsense. But even if that was the case, it doesn't excuse not trying

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Re: Crystal Palace v Burnley - Player Ratings

Postby careyclaret » Sat Dec 01, 2018 6:15 pm

Hart. 7. Mom. Did well on several occasions
Lowton. 6. Taken to the cleaners a few times but defended manfully on other occasions
Long. 7. Several important interventions
Mee. 5. Out of sorts. Don't know what he was doing on the second goal
Taylor. 7. Defended well for the most part
Lennon. 4. Offered very little
Cork. 3. His worst game for us imo
Hendrick. 4. Oh why is he playing in this position?
Defour. 4. Offered little.
JBG. 6. Good defensive work
Wood. 3. Woeful

Brady. 4. No spark
Vokes. 4. See Brady

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Re: Crystal Palace v Burnley - Player Ratings

Postby OffTheBar » Sat Dec 01, 2018 6:33 pm

Hart 7
Lowton 3
Long 6
Mee 3
Taylor 3
Lennon 4
Defour 5
Cork 3
JBG 4
Hendrick 4
Wood 3

Brady 4
Vokes 5

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Re: Crystal Palace v Burnley - Player Ratings

Postby PhiladelphiaChris » Sat Dec 01, 2018 7:08 pm

Hart 8
Lowton 5
Long 6
Mee 5
Taylor 6
Lennon 4
Defour 5
Cork 4
JBG 5
Hendrick 4
Wood 4

Brady 4
Vokes 5

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Re: Crystal Palace v Burnley - Player Ratings

Postby paulatky » Sat Dec 01, 2018 7:11 pm

Hart 8
Lowton 4
Long 6
Mee 4
Taylor 5
Lennon 3
Defour 3
Cork 3
Hendrick 3
Wood 3

Brady 4
Vokes 4
Barnes n/a

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Re: Crystal Palace v Burnley - Player Ratings

Postby LeadBelly » Sat Dec 01, 2018 7:36 pm

Blimey, I'm glad I only had to travel morosely back to Hampshire after that rather than all the way up to the north west.
We were lucky to get none.


Hart 7 - made a few very decent saves, not spectacular but if all the outfield players had performed as well, we might have made a game of it.
Lowton 5 - A few decent tackles and interceptions and still trying to get down the flank towards the end but crossing wasnt up to usual decent level.
Mee 4 - gave the ball away with poor kicked and headed clearances in the first 15 minutes, pretty unsettling for everybody
Long 5 - not commanding but less errors than his partner.
Taylor 6 - thought he was our best outfield player. Defended as well as anyone and did try things going forward.
Lennon 4 - didnt affect the game at all
Cork 5 - was busy in patches but seems to be lacking energy/drive that he used to have.
Defour 4 - he did show for the ball but did little creative with it and gave it away badly a few times.
JBG 5 - He had a poor 1st half but fared a bit better in the 2nd half.
Hendrick 4 - playing in a position that doesnt suit and appears to be no closer to adjusting to it now than he did at first.
Wood 3 - I know people are saying he didnt get the service but he didnt run the channels that I could see & not really very good in the air as a target man for a big lad.

Brady 4 - couldnt affect the game in the 45 minutes
Vokes 5 - did get a few headers in towards the end and made his presence felt more than Wood had done.

The team is very low on confidence, really lacking the assurance in even doing simple things that they did well last season.
The manager needs to earn his corn over the next month to turn things round.

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Re: Crystal Palace v Burnley - Player Ratings

Postby Steve-Harpers-perm » Sat Dec 01, 2018 7:50 pm

Hart 9
Lowton 3
Taylor 5
Long 5
Mee 3
Defour 3
Cork 3
Hendrick 3
JBG 3
Lennon 3
Wood 3

Truly horrific getting beat is one thing but getting beat with no effort or interest from a large number of players is simply unacceptable.

Whatever is going on behind the scenes needs sorting and fast.

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Re: Crystal Palace v Burnley - Player Ratings

Postby Longsidebogs » Sat Dec 01, 2018 8:02 pm

Hart 8, the rest I simply cannot be arsed to comment.
Dyche 0. Sort it out or have the good grace to offer your resignation.

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Re: Crystal Palace v Burnley - Player Ratings

Postby Giftonsnoidea » Sat Dec 01, 2018 8:15 pm

Hart 7 must be wondering if he’s jinxed or something

Lowton 5
Mee 5
Long 6
Taylor 7 looked to be only him and Long playing in defence today

Lennon 4
Hendrick 4
JBG 4
Defour 4
Cork 4
Brady 4

Wood 3 deary me this guy is stealing his wages at moment

Vokes 4 should have started game

Barnes 3

Looking like a lost cause at moment

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Re: Crystal Palace v Burnley - Player Ratings

Postby joey13 » Sat Dec 01, 2018 8:27 pm

Hart 8
Lowton 5
Mee 4
Long 4
Taylor 5
Lennon 3
Cork 3
Defour 3
JBG 3
Hendrick 3
Wood 3

Vokes 4
Brady 4

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Re: Crystal Palace v Burnley - Player Ratings

Postby IWOODLOVETT » Sat Dec 01, 2018 8:30 pm

Hart 6 Made some good saves, but looks faulty in the air (punches when he can catch). At fault for the first goal - goalkeepers like wicket keepers should expect every ball to reach them.
Lowton 5 Poor decision making and lacks confidence to get forward.
Long 6 - solid enough and had a good game but liable to panic when isolated.
Mee 5 - looks shot and needs a rest. Doesn’t give the team the leadership it desperately needs.
Taylor 4 - a one-footed, one-trick pony. Should be better in the air - is beaten by shorter opponents. Lacks confidence.
Cork 5 - see Mee - needs a rest.
Defour 5 - trying hard to get things moving but a lack of quality around him is making him look bad.
Lennon 4 - some useful defending but offered nothing going forward.
JBG 6 - provided a ray of hope, nothing more.
Hendrick 6 - get him in his best position and he will look a lot better.
Wood 4 - looked completely out of his depth but having to battle against a dominant Sako and the other central defender. Provided no threat.
Brady 6 - looked up for it but not match fit. Took a worrying knock late on.

Subs. Vokes for Defour let Woy know know exactly what our tactics were going to be. I bet he was shocked and terrified. Bringing on Barnes for Wood was one big ineffective lump for another. (Where’s Vydra)

Verdict we let Zaha and Townsend sparkle from the start and were completely mesmerised by Palace’s midfield. No MoM from me.

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Re: Crystal Palace v Burnley - Player Ratings

Postby Woodleyclaret » Sat Dec 01, 2018 8:34 pm

Hart 9
Lowton 6
Taylor 5
Long 8
Mee 5 another poor game time for a rest
Lennon 3
Defour 3 uninterested off to China in Jan?
Cork 3 very poor shirking tackles
Hendrick 5
JBG 6 decent support but must trust himself to shoot more
Wood 2 offered sfa never anticipated the odd cross
Barnes. 5 on far too late
Vokes 5 ditto
Brady 4 little impact
Dyche 2 totally at sea and poor tactics again

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Re: Crystal Palace v Burnley - Player Ratings

Postby Top Claret » Sat Dec 01, 2018 8:38 pm

Didn't go today and not watched on any streams. These marks are the worst I have ever see on UTC.

Dyche is finished and we need to get shut. The players need a new motivator to carry the baton on to the end of the season and evaluate what is needed to take the club forward.

Been watching the clarets since our old 1st division days and I can tell you blind loyalty to a football manager can be very dangerous.
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Re: Crystal Palace v Burnley - Player Ratings

Postby Hibsclaret » Sat Dec 01, 2018 8:50 pm

Hart 8
Taylor 5 Championship player
Mee 5
Long 6 pick of the defence
Lowton 5
JBG 7 best outfield player
Defour 6
Lennon 5
Cork 5
Hendrick 4 anonymous
Wood 4

Brady 4
Vokes 5

Very poor performance. Never looked like scoring.
We must get behind the ginger genius. People have short memories and be careful what you wish for

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Re: Crystal Palace v Burnley - Player Ratings

Postby randomclaret2 » Sat Dec 01, 2018 8:55 pm

2 very different opinions on Dyche in the last 2 posts... Our support is split more widely I think

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Re: Crystal Palace v Burnley - Player Ratings

Postby Silkyskills1 » Sat Dec 01, 2018 9:09 pm

[quote="Top Claret"]Didn't go today and not watched on any streams. These marks are the worst I have ever see on UTC.

Dyche is finished and we need to get shut.

And who do you have in mind that can not only take over but also come up with the results we need to survive? I fully accept your point of view but I'm curious as to the names you might have to come in and turn things around.

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Re: Crystal Palace v Burnley - Player Ratings

Postby SalisburyClaret » Sat Dec 01, 2018 9:11 pm

Hart 8
Taylor 7 some good some awful
Mee 5
Long 6
Lowton 5
JBG 7
Defour 5
Lennon 4
Cork 5
Hendrick 4
Wood 4

Brady 5
Vokes 5

That was a shocker
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Re: Crystal Palace v Burnley - Player Ratings

Postby Top Claret » Sat Dec 01, 2018 9:55 pm

Silkyskills1 wrote:



No idea... It is up to the board and our director of football to make the decision.
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Re: Crystal Palace v Burnley - Player Ratings

Postby Bordeauxclaret » Sat Dec 01, 2018 10:05 pm

Top Claret wrote:No idea... It is up to the board and our director of football to make the decision.


It’s their decision to get rid of not but you seem happy to give that opinion?

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Re: Crystal Palace v Burnley - Player Ratings

Postby Nonayforever » Sat Dec 01, 2018 10:22 pm

Hart 7
Lowton 5
Long 6
Mee 4
Taylor 6
Lennon 5
Cork 4
Defour 5
JBG 5
Hendrick 5
Wood 2

Brady 3
Vokes 5

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Re: Crystal Palace v Burnley - Player Ratings

Postby IanMcL » Sat Dec 01, 2018 10:27 pm

Hart 6 errors and saves
Lowton 6
Long 7
Mee 6
Taylor 5
Lennon 4
Defour 5
Cork 5
Gudmundsson 6
Hendrick 5
Wood 3

Brady 3 or less
Vokes 5
Barnes n/a

Not good

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Re: Crystal Palace v Burnley - Player Ratings

Postby Alanstevensonsgloves » Sat Dec 01, 2018 10:48 pm

I'd be interested to see the scores from CT and spice.

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Re: Crystal Palace v Burnley - Player Ratings

Postby paulatky » Sat Dec 01, 2018 10:51 pm

The marks for Wood are shocking.
I gave a 3 but 2 are being awarded.
Wonder how Stan would have reacted.
Would it have been a Winstanley moment

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Re: Crystal Palace v Burnley - Player Ratings

Postby paulatky » Sat Dec 01, 2018 10:54 pm

Silkyskills,BFS but he might think the task is too difficult whatever the financial reward.
Just till the end of the season and then look at Wilder or Wagner

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Re: Crystal Palace v Burnley - Player Ratings

Postby bfcjg » Sat Dec 01, 2018 11:04 pm

Didn't go, followed it on Sky and the radio, I think the marks of those who went and watched the game on links are very depressing. Where is the minimum requirement is maximum effort ethos gone ? I will never criticise a player or mark them down if they put a real shift in. First season up when we went down you really couldn't knock the effort, ditto last two seasons ( bar tail end of last season when we were keeping fit/injury free etc for the world cup and the Europa league) but this, ? Something is fundamentally wrong.

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Re: Crystal Palace v Burnley - Player Ratings

Postby Nonayforever » Sat Dec 01, 2018 11:27 pm

paulatky wrote:The marks for Wood are shocking.
I gave a 3 but 2 are being awarded.
Wonder how Stan would have reacted.
Would it have been a Winstanley moment


Take a look at the 2nd goal for Palace.
We put a long ball forward to Vokes who held his position, wood almost jumped at Vokes leaving the ball free for Palace to pick up and pass to Townsend.

Vokes was holding his head in his hands at Wood.

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Re: Crystal Palace v Burnley - Player Ratings

Postby claretgilly » Sat Dec 01, 2018 11:51 pm

Hart 6 - Fine but it was more their missing than his heroics

Defour 5 - actually tried to get us forward and do something before he was inexplicably hauled off

The rest 3

I’m rarely so negative but that was atrociously, abysmally bad. What are we? What are we setting out to do in a game? Is there any plan whatsoever? I live with a Palace fan and he can’t quite believe how easily they got in behind us going forwards and how little we offered to the game. Something is fundamentally wrong for sure

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Re: Crystal Palace v Burnley - Player Ratings

Postby Hibsclaret » Sat Dec 01, 2018 11:53 pm

Nonayforever wrote:Take a look at the 2nd goal for Palace.
We put a long ball forward to Vokes who held his position, wood almost jumped at Vokes leaving the ball free for Palace to pick up and pass to Townsend.

Vokes was holding his head in his hands at Wood.


That really was pathetic. Both going for the same ball.

The problem with chopping and changing up top means a partnership cannot develop. Ings and Vokes was telepathic

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Re: Crystal Palace v Burnley - Player Ratings

Postby HiroshimaClaret » Sun Dec 02, 2018 12:03 am

Another abject and embarrassing `performance`.

Hart 7 mom

Lowton 5
Long 6
Mee 5
Taylor 7

Gudmundsson 4
Defour 5
Cork 3
Lennon 3
Hendrick 5
Wood 3

Brady 4


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