The last 19 League games
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The last 19 League games
2 wins , 5 draws, 12 defeats. For 16 Against 39.
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Re: The last 19 League games
He's had time to turn it round and this is what he has done with that timerandomclaret2 wrote:2 wins , 5 draws, 12 defeats. For 16 Against 39.
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It's not just a bad patch. Losing has become a habit. If I felt Dyche could fix things, I'd give him time. However, I don't believe he can - we're that bad.
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7 wins in the 35 League games since we beat Stoke and went 4th almost a year ago
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So extrapolated to the 38 game PL season 4 wins 10 draws and 24 defeats For 32 against 78randomclaret2 wrote:2 wins , 5 draws, 12 defeats. For 16 Against 39.
Points 22. mmmm.
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I think we may well have peaked in every sense, that night.randomclaret2 wrote:7 wins in the 35 League games since we beat Stoke and went 4th almost a year ago
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Common denominator
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There’s nothing to suggest we will turn this around.
This isn’t just a bad ‘patch’, it’s now far more than that.
The football has been dire for a long time, and in fairness, I think the majority of us have stuck with it until now.
As a set of fans, we’re certainly no different to any other. There aren’t any fans who would put up with this.
We need to look to the future. Dyche has been marvellous. The stats are there for all to see, he’s had ample time. Sure, we can bury our heads in the sand, but that’s really not going to help here. The rhetoric is the same, the bilge on the pitch is the same, and there isn’t remotely a green shoot of recovery.
You could successfully argue with each passing performance, we are actually getting worse, which is very telling.
This isn’t just a bad ‘patch’, it’s now far more than that.
The football has been dire for a long time, and in fairness, I think the majority of us have stuck with it until now.
As a set of fans, we’re certainly no different to any other. There aren’t any fans who would put up with this.
We need to look to the future. Dyche has been marvellous. The stats are there for all to see, he’s had ample time. Sure, we can bury our heads in the sand, but that’s really not going to help here. The rhetoric is the same, the bilge on the pitch is the same, and there isn’t remotely a green shoot of recovery.
You could successfully argue with each passing performance, we are actually getting worse, which is very telling.
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Clutching at straws to avoid naming the real problem; the Manager. Who incidentally bought, coaches, and continues to play Charlie Taylor.Hibsclaret wrote:Common denominator
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I’d prefer to back the manager who arranged 2 promotions a 7th place prem finish and European campaign. He has made some signings that haven’t worked (3 wins in 25 appearances suggest that Charlie is the worst signing of the ones that have played a lot).
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Yes I blame Charlie too for not having a single shot on target today.Hibsclaret wrote:I’d prefer to back the manager who arranged 2 promotions a 7th place prem finish and European campaign. He has made some signings that haven’t worked (3 wins in 25 appearances suggest that Charlie is the worst signing of the ones that have played a lot).
Dyche out
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17 wins in the last 52 PL games
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23 wins over 70 PL games
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You’d prefer to find an easy scapegoat rather than face what’s glaringly obvious. I understand that, but I cannot accept it. Can you please establish a causal link between Charlie Taylor and our poor form other than coincidence? I very much doubt it. He’s just an easy Aunt Sally to throw stones at. Do you really think that, if Ward came back into the team, we’d suddenly become the team we were this time last year? The rot started long before Ward got injured.Hibsclaret wrote:I’d prefer to back the manager who arranged 2 promotions a 7th place prem finish and European campaign. He has made some signings that haven’t worked (3 wins in 25 appearances suggest that Charlie is the worst signing of the ones that have played a lot).
Taylor isn’t as good as Ward(thoug he might be one day), but to put all of our ills on his narrow shoulders and drive him out into the wilderness is pure folly.
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42 league defeats since 2016/17 season.
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Or the fact that he was moaning about a free kick and losing concentration before the first goal, standing off Meyer when he nearly got a second and was slow to react towards Townsend for the second. Absolutely clueless defensively and did he put one decent cross in all day. Errr NoQuickenthetempo wrote:Yes I blame Charlie too for not having a single shot on target today.
Dyche out
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We won 11 league games in 16/17 and 14 in 17/18.
We've won 2 so far this year so 9 more to go to equal 16/17.
Not an impossible task.
We've won 2 so far this year so 9 more to go to equal 16/17.
Not an impossible task.
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And has now well and truly been found out and produced nothing in the slightest to replicate that.Hibsclaret wrote:I’d prefer to back the manager who arranged 2 promotions a 7th place prem finish and European campaign.
Nothing lasts for ever and no fan will ever forget what he achieved but sadly that's in the past.
What worries me more is the fact the board don't seen concerned in the slightest (well haven't voiced any concerns) and they are fans too!
I take it they haven't watched many of the games this season?
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Finishing 7th last season has skewed a lot of fan's thinking.
I treated us finishing 7th in much the same way as I did Leicester winning the title, it was a freakish season that saw it happen as wonderful as it was. Many of the bigger clubs under performed. To finish as high as 7th in the PL normally requires 60 points or more but we managed it with just 54. Even though we failed to win any of our last few games the clubs behind us were in even worse form and failed to make any ground. We finished last season poorly and did not improve at the start of this one.
I treated us finishing 7th in much the same way as I did Leicester winning the title, it was a freakish season that saw it happen as wonderful as it was. Many of the bigger clubs under performed. To finish as high as 7th in the PL normally requires 60 points or more but we managed it with just 54. Even though we failed to win any of our last few games the clubs behind us were in even worse form and failed to make any ground. We finished last season poorly and did not improve at the start of this one.
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The biggest let down was not strengthening when the club was at its peak..
We were all expecting some exciting players coming in, instead wba pricked teased us chasing jrod and Dawson
We were all expecting some exciting players coming in, instead wba pricked teased us chasing jrod and Dawson
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I agree with Hibs on Taylor. Hes failed to impress in most games. With the odd exception. He was to blame for both goals today.
Ward is clearly past it. With that in mind 352 looks an option. Or if we persist with 4 at the back. Pulis style with Gibson there.
Ward is clearly past it. With that in mind 352 looks an option. Or if we persist with 4 at the back. Pulis style with Gibson there.
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Never mind the history lesson lets focus on our 13 wins target .Enough to keep us up.
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Good idea.cricketfieldclarets wrote:I agree with Hibs on Taylor. Hes failed to impress in most games. With the odd exception. He was to blame for both goals today.
Ward is clearly past it. With that in mind 352 looks an option. Or if we persist with 4 at the back. Pulis style with Gibson there.
TBH it’s only when you see him up close like today in the first half that you realise how bad he is. They even made sure their best player was not up against him to save him from total embarrassment.
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Problem with you is you don't seem to understand this is football we're talking about. Do they play it up your way or do you watch tossing the caber? No.doubt you'll have more idea about that.Hibsclaret wrote:I’d prefer to back the manager who arranged 2 promotions a 7th place prem finish and European campaign. He has made some signings that haven’t worked (3 wins in 25 appearances suggest that Charlie is the worst signing of the ones that have played a lot).
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Disgraceful that we didn't bring in two midfield players. Who'll come now? I said at the time it would cost us dear and its going to. The two outfielders we bought don't get picked. Ridiculouscockneyclaret wrote:The biggest let down was not strengthening when the club was at its peak..
We were all expecting some exciting players coming in, instead wba pricked teased us chasing jrod and Dawson
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Taylor must have slept with hibs partner. To basically blame him for all our shortcomings is embarrassing.
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It's laughable.Murger wrote:To basically blame him for all our shortcomings is embarrassing.
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Taylors strength is going forward as an attacking wing back, he never gets the opportunity playing under Dyche. Dyche is not developing him, he is ruining him
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It is not easy to compete in the Premier League and for a club like Burnley it's bloody difficult at the best of times. We've been doing ok thanks to the dogged determination and willingness to work hard of our players and the discipline and simple tactics of our manager. He makes mistakes but Dyche is a good manager and has as much chance as anyone else of keeping us in this division. We could maybe have spent more but that's not the Burnley way and the board has made it clear that there are limits to the wage structure. The players seem to have lost a bit of edge, that extra bit of skill, that extra yard of pace, etc that make the "fine margins" we talk about. Dyche's tactics don't seem to be working but I'm sure that's not stopping him being innovative in his approach and looking at new ideas. I don't know how we start winning again but getting rid of Dyche would seem like a mistake.
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I think that one of the main differences compared to other teams are the wing backs - We have 2 championship level full backs that need to play out of their skin each week to provide defence and attacking options. Most other teams have specialists in those positions and have far more fluency as a result
There again our back 4 yesterday cost £7m - what can you expect
There again our back 4 yesterday cost £7m - what can you expect
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