we've no chance of promotion if we get rid of SD

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sat Dec 01, 2018 5:34 pm

If we go down and get rid of SD we've pretty much blown our chances of an immediate return to the Prem.

And probably for a few seasons as well

ClaretAndJew · Post by **ClaretAndJew** » Sat Dec 01, 2018 5:34 pm

No chance of staying up if he stays either.

duncandisorderly · Post by **duncandisorderly** » Sat Dec 01, 2018 5:36 pm

Spijed wrote:If we go down and get rid of SD we've pretty much blown our chances of an immediate return to the Prem.

And probably for a few seasons as well

How can you possibly predict that with such certainty?

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Sat Dec 01, 2018 5:36 pm

I’m still in the Dyche in camp but that opening post is ********

Barry_Chuckle · Post by **Barry_Chuckle** » Sat Dec 01, 2018 5:36 pm

Spijed wrote:If we go down and get rid of SD we've pretty much blown our chances of an immediate return to the Prem.

And probably for a few seasons as well

Thanks Nostradamus!

ksrclaret · Post by **ksrclaret** » Sat Dec 01, 2018 5:37 pm

Spijed wrote:If we go down and get rid of SD we've pretty much blown our chances of an immediate return to the Prem.

And probably for a few seasons as well

Absolute horse sh1t.

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Sat Dec 01, 2018 5:38 pm

I don't think that's entirely true. I believe we have a decent squad. With some careful recruitment (signing 2 or 3 younger players in key positions), I think the right man could get us promoted at the first attempt. Of course, there's no guarantee but there isn't a guarantee that Dyche can manage it for a 3rd time either. And to be honest, the Championship is pretty fun.

Parkvilla · Post by **Parkvilla** » Sat Dec 01, 2018 5:40 pm

Ha,ha.Seriously.If Dyche leaves the world will end.The football is awful to watch and we have won 2 of the last 19 league games.Pull your head out of your backside if you think Dyche is the only manager who would bring us back up.Lets give Dyche a 25 year contract cos he got us to the premier.

JohnMac · Post by **JohnMac** » Sat Dec 01, 2018 5:40 pm

There is little chance this squad would get us promoted from the Championship, those that weren't moved on as a cost saving measure anyway.

Rumbletonk · Post by **Rumbletonk** » Sat Dec 01, 2018 5:46 pm

Spijed wrote:If we go down and get rid of SD we've pretty much blown our chances of an immediate return to the Prem.

And probably for a few seasons as well

Bang on. As dire and weak as we are at the minute you don't sack a manager with two promotions under his belt. He has created a really poor side but who else would you have more faith in to make it right

SkiptonClaret · Post by **SkiptonClaret** » Sat Dec 01, 2018 5:47 pm

IndigoLake wrote:I don't think that's entirely true. I believe we have a decent squad. With some careful recruitment (signing 2 or 3 younger players in key positions), I think the right man could get us promoted at the first attempt. Of course, there's no guarantee but there isn't a guarantee that Dyche can manage it for a 3rd time either. And to be honest, the Championship is pretty fun.

Imagine signing younger players ! Youth has almost been entirely irradicated during Dyche’s tenure.

jrgbfc · Post by **jrgbfc** » Sat Dec 01, 2018 5:48 pm

Whatever we had has gone. If Dyche stays then we need to give him the money to build a completely new team, because he has lost the current lot, and can't say I blame them.

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Sat Dec 01, 2018 5:48 pm

SkiptonClaret wrote:Imagine signing younger players ! Youth has almost been entirely irradicated during Dyche’s tenure.

Experience is of course vital but I agree - our squad has aged a little too much.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sat Dec 01, 2018 5:49 pm

Spijed wrote:If we go down and get rid of SD we've pretty much blown our chances of an immediate return to the Prem.

And probably for a few seasons as well

nonsense

and tbh I just want to see some good football and us have an attempt on goal, not bothered what league we are in

ksrclaret · Post by **ksrclaret** » Sat Dec 01, 2018 5:49 pm

SkiptonClaret wrote:Imagine signing younger players ! Youth has almost been entirely irradicated during Dyche’s tenure.

Apart from those couple of young lads he picked up from
Stoke last year

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Sat Dec 01, 2018 5:50 pm

JohnMac wrote:There is little chance this squad would get us promoted from the Championship.

The way they are playing at present I doubt they could get us promoted TO the Championship

Vintage Claret · Post by **Vintage Claret** » Sat Dec 01, 2018 5:52 pm

My hunch is it won't be an issue IF we go down...

Only guessing but I've always thought that if we did go down, one of the remaining' big city' clubs in the Championship will come in for him as he's proved he knows how to get teams out of that division with limited resources so it will be a case of SD choosing to leave rather than Burnley sacking him.

I think he will relish the chance of a new challenge at a different club, will just depend on the ownership set up and how much control he has over signings etc.

SkiptonClaret · Post by **SkiptonClaret** » Sat Dec 01, 2018 5:53 pm

ksrclaret wrote:Apart from those couple of young lads he picked up from
Stoke last year

Good lads them.

jrgbfc · Post by **jrgbfc** » Sat Dec 01, 2018 5:56 pm

Vintage Claret wrote:My hunch is it won't be an issue IF we go down...

Only guessing but I've always thought that if we did go down, one of the remaining' big city' clubs in the Championship will come in for him as he's proved he knows how to get teams out of that division with limited resources so it will be a case of SD choosing to leave rather than Burnley sacking him.

I think he will relish the chance of a new challenge at a different club, will just depend on the ownership set up and how much control he has over signings etc.

The bigger Championship clubs set their sights higher than Dyche. Look at Leeds managing to attract someone like Bielsa.

Vintage Claret · Post by **Vintage Claret** » Sat Dec 01, 2018 6:33 pm

jrgbfc wrote:The bigger Championship clubs set their sights higher than Dyche. Look at Leeds managing to attract someone like Bielsa.

Get what you're saying but not sure why any Championship team wouldn't at least consider a manager who has earned 2 promotions from that division (one as Champions) and kept a team in the PL for 3 seasons, reaching the Europa league qualifiers on the way.

Difference is, I don't think SD would be shown the same patience and support as at Burnley and if he did manage to get the hyperthetical 'big city' club into the PL they would have no qualms about ditching him for a 'big name' manager if things were going tits up after 3 months.

jrgbfc · Post by **jrgbfc** » Sat Dec 01, 2018 6:40 pm

Vintage Claret wrote:Get what you're saying but not sure why any Championship team wouldn't at least consider a manager who has earned 2 promotions from that division (one as Champions) and kept a team in the PL for 3 seasons, reaching the Europa league on the way.

Difference is, I don't think SD would be shown the same patience and support as at Burnley and if he did manage to get the hyperthetical 'big city' club into the PL they would have no qualms about ditching him for a 'big name' manager if things were going tits up after 3 months.

The problem with Dyche is that his style of football is so bad to watch if he didn't get results instantly he'd be under massive pressure. I appreciate his track record in the Championship but if things don't change this season I just don't think he'll be that attractive. Plus the likes of Villa and Forest have fairly recent appointments that are doing well.

Vintage Claret · Post by **Vintage Claret** » Sat Dec 01, 2018 6:48 pm

Hsilgadmkris wrote:A slight nit-pick.. You didn't reach the Europa league.. You failed to qualify..

Yes, it was a slight nit pick but whatever, I've edited it just for you

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Sat Dec 01, 2018 6:50 pm

I can only imagine that without Sean Dyche we will plummet down to the National League North in about 5 seasons

Giftonsnoidea · Post by **Giftonsnoidea** » Sat Dec 01, 2018 6:52 pm

The players aren’t playing for him, are we going to buy a new team?

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sat Dec 01, 2018 6:56 pm

Pulis gets reasonable jobs despite his style of football

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sat Dec 01, 2018 7:34 pm

Spijed wrote:Pulis gets reasonable jobs despite his style of football

and gets the boot when results aren't good because it's ******* torture to watch if you have an ounce of love for football

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