Arsenal - What a change of manager can do

[Cleveleys_claret]

Just look at Arsenal today and the atmosphere at The Emirates. Last year a lifeless atmosphere and discontent all around. This season a new manager with a few different ideas but mainly the same side. Unbelievable what a change can do, how a long serving manager can stop being able to affect change because players get bored of the same ideas, same team talks, same excuses, same praise.

All good things come to an end and sometimes things just get sterile.

Any comparisons

Just saying

[Barry_Chuckle]

Wenger should have been given more time, he won the league once..... he'd earned it

[Lancasterclaret]

I'm loving all the comparisons coming out today about how changing a manager makes all the difference.

Any chance of any of you using this time to look at all the times it hasn't worked?

For example, I'll give you Stoke last season, or Sunderland every season apart from this one.

And those comparisons are far more likely and realistic that the one given by the OP

[TsarBomba]

I'm loving all the comparisons coming out today about how changing a manager makes all the difference.

Any chance of any of you using this time to look at all the times it hasn't worked?

For example, I'll give you Stoke last season, or Sunderland every season apart from this one.

And those comparisons are far more likely and realistic that the one given by the OP

So because it hasn’t worked for other clubs, we don’t bother then? It’s worked for Palace, don’t forget.

I’ve pretty much accepted relegation now. Would it be advantageous to give a new manager two transfer windows and a 6 month bedding in period to have a crack at the Championship?

We know there is no guarantee with anything. I don’t particularly like the idea of changing manager mid season, but to carry on like we are seems futile. The players are drained of confidence and the atmosphere at the club is becoming toxic.

If there was ANY sign of improvement, then I would put my hands up and say Dyche deserves more time. But there isn’t. We’re getting worse, which tells me enough.

[Lancasterclaret]

Nope, it might work

But Hughes to Lambert

Sunderland - Moyes, that fascist Italian, that dutch bloke, that angry uruguayan

Arsenal have replaced Wenger with one of the better managers in Europe.

If we can find the next Pochettino (for example) then I'm all for it.

But we won't. Its going to be a depressingly short list if we pot Dyche, and it will include BFS and Moyes.

That not my main reason for keeping him (thats that he deserves more time) but I'd be lying if I didn't consider the alternatives to be worse.

[Stockbrokerbelt]

Worked for Palace? Flirt with relegation last year & 4th bottom until yesterday.

[Lord Beamish]

I’m prepared to give Dyche these two games at home this week. I’m not demanding wins from either(especially the Liverpool one), but what I am demanding is a response from the Team. Some sign that they still want to play for him and that he has it within himself to turn this utter mess around.
If threre is no response at all, then I think he’s finished.

[TheFamilyCat]

I find it hard to believe that anyone thinks thst our situation is anything like Arsenal's.

[Bigvince]

It’s ok changing managers, if you get the right one. We could end up with Brian laws!
By the way I think SD should be given more time, he’s earned it

[DCWat]

I remember Dyche talking about, when he first arrived (or perhaps the first summer after his arrival), a questionnaire that all the players completed to understand issues and be able to get everything out in the open, anonymously.

Hopefully something like this has been done, or is being done. Getting back to basics isn’t the answer, the answer is getting to the root of whatever the problems are, either with individuals or the team as a whole.

[ewanrob]

I liked the forward thinking half time substitution, if it's not working then change it....it could catch on, I thought subs weren't allowed until the 80th minute.

[Spijed]

I liked the forward thinking half time substitution, if it's not working then change it....it could catch on, I thought subs weren't allowed until the 80th minute.

Brady came on at HT yesterday

[TsarBomba]

Worked for Palace? Flirt with relegation last year & 4th bottom until yesterday.

Palace have been saved on more than one occasion by changing manager.

They have become very reliant on this short term fix, which is a route I wouldn’t want us to go down, but with the sole aim of avoiding relegation, you can’t deny it hasn’t worked for them.

[ewanrob]

Brady came on at HT yesterday

Did it change the game in our favour?

[EarbyClaret]

Arsenal changed at the end of the season - took their time over the decision and allowed the new manager to prepare properly based on where they finished (CL or Europa League place) and what they expected as a result.

[Quickenthetempo]

What about the impact for Everton Marco Silva is having.
The football is breathtaking compared to the mundane style they had under Alladyce.

Gives me hope

[Vegas Claret]

I find it hard to believe that anyone thinks thst our situation is anything like Arsenal's.

it's identical, you had players wandering around not putting the yards in and now they are - it's the opposite of our last year. It's a human nature thing not an Arsenal Burnley thing

[Lancasterclaret]

Continuing the links to huge clubs with what a change of manager can do isn't really convincing to be honest.

[Blackrod]

There's no guarantees with anything. The current situation on the pitch can't get much worse though. It's not just the results we just aren't in games and never remotely look like winning. Changes can work such as Leicester - Pearson changed Ranieri changed and not much loyalty shown because they'd achieved previously. Similiar set of players. Years ago with us Casper changed Mullen appointed. Similiar set of players. Our players now need a lift and some belief in what they are being asked to do.

[Spijed]

There's no guarantees with anything. The current situation on the pitch can't get much worse though. It's not just the results we just aren't in games and never remotely look like winning. Changes can work such as Leicester - Pearson changed Ranieri changed and not much loyalty shown because they'd achieved previously. Similiar set of players. Years ago with us Casper changed Mullen appointed. Similiar set of players. Our players now need a lift and some belief in what they are being asked to do.

Pearson was sacked at Leicester for non-footballing reasons. It was purely because of his Son acting like an idiot in Thailand.

[Lord Beamish]

Pearson was sacked at Leicester for non-footballing reasons. It was purely because of his Son acting like an idiot in Thailand.

I don’t think it was purely for that, Spijed. His behaviour throughout that season had got stranger and stranger as time went on. Hostile interviews; that truly bizarre clash with an opposition player on the touch line. The misbehaving son was just the straw that broke the camel’s back.

[AlargeClaret]

Can you believe that even some of the bellends on here that anyone can seriously compare our situation to that of Arsenal’s

Perhaps if our wage bill and squad was in their league a managerial change may well be a good thing . Does anyone seriously truthfully think we’d have the squad we do with that kind of clout ? And do they also think SD would play the same style of football if he had a plethora of strong athletic highly skilled young lions on the roster?

Our club is starting to feel like a Brighton or Leicester with deluded new fan twitter types who totally forget we’ve ALWAYS played sh1t football under Dyche and before that Eddie didn’t exactly have us knocking on the prem door

[Lancasterclaret]

Pearson went officially "rogue" that season. He certainly wasn't all there at all.

[Vegas Claret]

Can you believe that even some of the bellends on here that anyone can seriously compare our situation to that of Arsenal’s

Perhaps if our wage bill and squad was in their league a managerial change may well be a good thing . Does anyone seriously truthfully think we’d have the squad we do with that kind of clout ? And do they also think SD would play the same style of football if he had a plethora of strong athletic highly skilled young lions on the roster?

Our club is starting to feel like a Brighton or Leicester with deluded new fan twitter types who totally forget we’ve ALWAYS played sh1t football under Dyche and before that Eddie didn’t exactly have us knocking on the prem door

it's to do with human nature not budget. How did Dyche manage to get a cobbled together team out of the Championship ? He didn't do it because of his budget. As for calling people bellends you might be asking for a ban

[levraiclaret]

Pearson was sacked because he resisted sacking his son (and 2 other players) when his son was filmed disrespecting Thais whilst on tour in the owner's homeland. Pearsons's other misdemeanours were tolerated.

[beddie]

I understand the OP view, however, isn't it easier to get so much more from a highly skilled squad with pace throughout the team, as against a predominantly average championship squad in the premier league. I agree that anyone who can get a team playing and playing well should see the support and noise volume from its crowd increase.