Your team for Liverpool....

piston broke · Post by **piston broke** » Sun Dec 02, 2018 9:12 pm

Dodobdobodobo wrote:Hart
Bardsley Mee (LB) Tarkowski Gibson
Defour Westwood Hendrick (as a third central midfielder)
Gudmundsson (wide right) Barnes (wide left)
Vokes

Mee wasn’t good enough as a championship LB. His lack of pace against Salah would kill any confidence he still has.

Dark Cloud · Post by **Dark Cloud** » Sun Dec 02, 2018 9:21 pm

Mee at LB has been tried before and it would be a seriously retrograde step. He was universally regarded as the weakest link until he suddenly switched to CB and became a star. We need to be bold and we need to be imaginative (for a change), but Mee to LB really is pretty much suicidal.

Jakubs Tash · Post by **Jakubs Tash** » Sun Dec 02, 2018 9:38 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:The most athletic team we've got to be honest.

Depending on fitness, I'd be very tempted to play Gibson and Long as well

I'd have to reluctantly drop Cork for Westwood and I'd stick with the 4-5-1 with Vokes up front.

Vokes? I thought you said the most athletic team we've got....

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Sun Dec 02, 2018 9:40 pm

He's the only striker remotely on form Jakub. He's got to stay centre, hold up the ball and the others get up to support him.

I agree that he goes against the idea of an athletic team, but I just can't see any other striker being effective at the moment.

Jakubs Tash · Post by **Jakubs Tash** » Sun Dec 02, 2018 9:44 pm

Fair enough... Barnes for me. We need scrappers and Barnes is the best option we have to be a complete nuisance to the opposition.

TsarBomba · Post by **TsarBomba** » Sun Dec 02, 2018 9:49 pm

Vokes is the closest we have to an in-form striker, but if it’s one up top, then it has to be Barnes.

Three at the back would be a mistake, and like BOT said further up, we would end up with a flat back 5.

I can’t see much else than 4-5-1.

Westwood in for his energy and perhaps Vydra in for a bit of pace and dynamism, although that’s never gonna happen.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Sun Dec 02, 2018 9:49 pm

He's been well off it this season when I've seen him to be honest but yeah, he'd be the guy if he doesn't go with Vokes.

Dodobdobodobo · Post by **Dodobdobodobo** » Sun Dec 02, 2018 9:53 pm

Dark Cloud wrote:Mee at LB has been tried before and it would be a seriously retrograde step. He was universally regarded as the weakest link until he suddenly switched to CB and became a star. We need to be bold and we need to be imaginative (for a change), but Mee to LB really is pretty much suicidal.

But at least he can defend.

Dark Cloud · Post by **Dark Cloud** » Sun Dec 02, 2018 10:08 pm

Why not throw Liverpool a curve ball and pick Barnes and Vydra as a front two?

bobinho · Post by **bobinho** » Sun Dec 02, 2018 10:45 pm

Not sure about the team, but for formation I would definitely opt for 6-5-4. We may see some of the ball then.

Joe14 · Post by **Joe14** » Sun Dec 02, 2018 10:58 pm

Heaton pleaseeeeeeeeeeeee

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Sun Dec 02, 2018 11:25 pm

Man city.....

MT03ALG · Post by **MT03ALG** » Sun Dec 02, 2018 11:46 pm

Defour as a free man. Cork and Hendrick as holding players.
Vydra or Barnes up front with hopefully a few though balls from Defour (Woods or Vokes do not move enough to latch on to any through balls....)

ClaretLoup · Post by **ClaretLoup** » Mon Dec 03, 2018 12:02 am

Remember when we beat Liverpool 2 - 0. Andre Scored the second goal following a midfield surge from Defour.

What happened to that player?

Down_Rover · Post by **Down_Rover** » Mon Dec 03, 2018 12:04 pm

Brighton on Saturday is a bigger game.

Let everyone who has any sort of knock or fitness issue have a rest on Wednesday so we have our best team ( whatever that is) available for Saturday.

On WEdnesday we should give game time to Gibson, Long, McNeil, Westwood, Hendrick Vydra and Barnes

We will lose whatever but they will all get minutes in the bank and might display that bit of hunger that makes us competitive

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Mon Dec 03, 2018 12:40 pm

Dark Cloud wrote:Why not throw Liverpool a curve ball and pick Barnes and Vydra as a front two?

As the Grinch said '... it's too much too soon'
Surprises for the opposition and the crowd now come on. I think I'll go and lie down.

WestMidsClaret · Post by **WestMidsClaret** » Mon Dec 03, 2018 12:46 pm

I'm no manager but will it really matter if players aren't on it or are fed up. It bloody should but nowadays player power and all that. My champ manager pick would be

Hart
Long Gibson Mee
Lowton JBG (wingback)
Defour Cork Hendrick
Vydra
Vokes

I see some people saying vokes can't play up top on his own well he's twice as good at it then wood that's for sure. Vydra can drop off him or go along side him. Might be a good link to the midfield and strikers because let's face it they are miles apart atm. I'd personally rather see changes for Brighton tbh but I get there is a need to try something out for Wednesday just not sure if it'll serve a purpose or not.

claretblue · Post by **claretblue** » Mon Dec 03, 2018 12:58 pm

ClaretLoup wrote:Remember when we beat Liverpool 2 - 0. Andre Scored the second goal following a midfield surge from Defour.

What happened to that player?

we sold him to Watford for £18M!

WestMidsClaret · Post by **WestMidsClaret** » Mon Dec 03, 2018 1:01 pm

He's still trying to surge but when you've got statues in front of you they're easy to mark. The amount of times I see him shrugging his shoulders because the options are limited. Oh and I'm on about Defour not Gray

Wood has a bit of pace but he's ineffective at the moment. He's not making the movement and when the ball is hit up to him it's 50/50 whether he finds a Burnley shirt or not.

taio · Post by **taio** » Mon Dec 03, 2018 5:30 pm

From the latest reports it looks like there will be some key changes for Wednesday, which is what many people on here want. Hope it goes far enough.

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Mon Dec 03, 2018 5:43 pm

Big changes as Dyche has realised he's been to loyal for too long Boden claims.

There's only Lennon, Mee and Hart who has played constanrly I think

MrTopTier · Post by **MrTopTier** » Mon Dec 03, 2018 6:03 pm

Hart
Lowton, Tarkowski, Mee, Taylor.
JBG, Defour, Westwood, Lennon
Barnes
Vokes
Barnes to drop in to create the extra body in midfield, we have had league and Europa cup games and the formation has been 451 or 442, there will be no change to 352 or 433 now. Just bloody have a go, Would rather see us have a go and lose two or three nil rather than sit back and get hammered like we did against Palace

Mala591 · Post by **Mala591** » Mon Dec 03, 2018 8:01 pm

taio wrote:From the latest reports it looks like there will be some key changes for Wednesday, which is what many people on here want. Hope it goes far enough.

Maximum changes would be something like:

Heaton
Bardsley Long Tarks Gibson
JBG Westwood Defour McNeil
Barnes Vydra

Before the match SD should promise the players that any outstanding performances
will guarantee a start on Saturday

icu81b4 · Post by **icu81b4** » Mon Dec 03, 2018 8:14 pm

I'd like the Man City team please.
UTC

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Mon Dec 03, 2018 9:11 pm

Wood, one of the worse centre-forwards I've seen in the PL with his back to goal. Stick with Vokes and a 5 man midfield.

ŽižkovClaret · Post by **ŽižkovClaret** » Mon Dec 03, 2018 9:43 pm

Hart

Bardsley
Long
Tarks
Taylor

Westwood
Defour

Lennon
Vydra
JBG

Vokes

jlup1980 · Post by **jlup1980** » Mon Dec 03, 2018 9:53 pm

Heaton
Lowton Tarky Gibson Taylor
Defour Hendrick
Lennon Vydra JBG
Barnes

dougcollins · Post by **dougcollins** » Mon Dec 03, 2018 10:17 pm

Left back is a specialist position. I watched Mee play (too) many games there and he doesn't have it.

Ludicrous to think he can replace Taylor. He can't even currently play to his own position's requirements.

HunterST_BFC · Post by **HunterST_BFC** » Mon Dec 03, 2018 10:34 pm

-----------------Heaton
Lowton ----Tarky ---Mee ---Taylor
----------Westwood ---Cork
Vydra ---------------------------JBG
----------------Defour top of midfield 5 / free

-------Barnes or Vokes up top

Bench - Hart Lennon Vydra Long Bardsley ...McNeil or Hendrick + either Barnes or Vokes

Think Brady has a Knock?
Wood can he make a brew?...
... he'd find a way of being offside from the stands at the moment...

Sleeping Cat · Post by **Sleeping Cat** » Tue Dec 04, 2018 11:47 am

....................Hart
...........Long - Gibson - Mee -
JBG - Defour - Westwood - Hendrick - Taylor
................ Vydra Vokes

Rick_Muller · Post by **Rick_Muller** » Tue Dec 04, 2018 12:27 pm

————————Heaton—————————
————Long—Tarkowski—Mee————
Lowton—————————————Taylor
—-—Westwood-Defour-Hendrick—-—
————————Vydra——————————
———————————Barnes———————

Options to switch back to 4-4-1-1 with addition of JBG or Lennon if fit

alwaysaclaret · Post by **alwaysaclaret** » Tue Dec 04, 2018 12:33 pm

jlup1980 wrote:Heaton
Lowton Tarky Gibson Taylor
Defour Hendrick
Lennon Vydra JBG
Barnes

Quite like this line up 1980, also re-: the rumoured fall out between tarks and mee it gives us an option if it doesn't work to revert to long and mee, fully behind the Gk decision, gives Cork a rest and puts hendrick back where he should be and vydra where he can be effective, not quite sure whether I'd prefer vokes though, but absolutely why not give Barnes and start and depending on how it goes get vokes on after 60, utc's

Steve-Harpers-perm · Post by **Steve-Harpers-perm** » Tue Dec 04, 2018 12:42 pm

Hart
Lowton
Mee
Gibson
Tarkowski
Defour
Hendrick
Westwood
Lennon
JBG
Barnes.

LoveCurryPies · Post by **LoveCurryPies** » Tue Dec 04, 2018 12:45 pm

theroyaldyche wrote:Nobody should be putting heaton as their first choice

Why? Given Pope isn't yet an option, I would select Heaton.

LoveCurryPies · Post by **LoveCurryPies** » Tue Dec 04, 2018 12:48 pm

Heaton
Lowton, Tarkowski, Mee, Taylor
JBG, Defour, Vydra, Lennon
Barnes & Wood

theroyaldyche · Post by **theroyaldyche** » Tue Dec 04, 2018 2:17 pm

LoveCurryPies wrote:Why? Given Pope isn't yet an option, I would select Heaton.

What do you mean why?

Hart is our best keeper by a county mile

alwaysaclaret · Post by **alwaysaclaret** » Tue Dec 04, 2018 2:25 pm

LoveCurryPies wrote:Why? Given Pope isn't yet an option, I would select Heaton.

Not playing Heaton, is one of the fundamental reasons why things have gone tits up in my opinion, he's done nothing wrong only get injured for god sake, ok he needed a few games to play himself back in and it may have resulted in losing 2 or 3 but we've done that anyway, why on earth would you make Hart no1 as soon as he walks through her door, this has completely upset the applecart imo. So I took would select Heaton.

alwaysaclaret · Post by **alwaysaclaret** » Tue Dec 04, 2018 2:28 pm

theroyaldyche wrote:What do you mean why?

Hart is our best keeper by a county mile

That's why 3 other managers have moved him on, just a shame dyche still hasn't seen it.

claretonthecoast1882 · Post by **claretonthecoast1882** » Tue Dec 04, 2018 2:37 pm

alwaysaclaret wrote:Not playing Heaton, is one of the fundamental reasons why things have gone tits up in my opinion, he's done nothing wrong only get injured for god sake, ok he needed a few games to play himself back in and it may have resulted in losing 2 or 3 but we've done that anyway, why on earth would you make Hart no1 as soon as he walks through her door, this has completely upset the applecart imo. So I took would select Heaton.

We managed to lose to Burton with Heaton in the side, not mentioning the goals he let in away in Greece

theroyaldyche · Post by **theroyaldyche** » Tue Dec 04, 2018 3:14 pm

alwaysaclaret wrote:That's why 3 other managers have moved him on, just a shame dyche still hasn't seen it.

If we hadnt had hart in goal wed have conceded a lot more goals. Hes by far the best keeper we have with pope next

SalisburyClaret · Post by **SalisburyClaret** » Tue Dec 04, 2018 3:37 pm

Defour is now rated as touch and go - we all know what that means...
Brings McNeil closer to the team though

brexit · Post by **brexit** » Tue Dec 04, 2018 3:45 pm

Fulledge Colts

SGr · Post by **SGr** » Tue Dec 04, 2018 4:04 pm

Hahahahahaha people still desperate to make Hart the problem whilst Cork puts in 3-4/10 showings week in week out, genuinely incredible

My team for Liverpool? Genuinely not sure, pretty convinced a standard 3-0 defeat is coming - but I’d probably go 4-4-2 with Barnes and Wood up front, Hendrick and Westwood central assuming Defour being “touch and go” means what it usually does. Alternatively, 4-2-3-1 with Vydra behind Barnes.

Still think Wood is our best striker on ability but the form just isn’t there, Barnes deserves his shot.

Ooogeorgeorgeoghani · Post by **Ooogeorgeorgeoghani** » Tue Dec 04, 2018 4:50 pm

Rick_Muller wrote:————————Heaton—————————
————Long—Tarkowski—Mee————
Lowton—————————————Taylor
—-—Westwood-Defour-Hendrick—-—
————————Vydra——————————
———————————Barnes———————

Options to switch back to 4-4-1-1 with addition of JBG or Lennon if fit

Would go for this we don't use the wingers anyway! Tomorrow is all about keeping it tight

Ooogeorgeorgeoghani · Post by **Ooogeorgeorgeoghani** » Tue Dec 04, 2018 4:57 pm

Gibson for new, we are struggling with distribution all over the place at least that's one area covered, Westwood for cork

JohnMac · Post by **JohnMac** » Wed Dec 05, 2018 7:51 am

Hart
Bardsley
Long
Gibson
Mee
Taylor
JBG
Hendrick
Westwood
McNeil
Vydra

Why?

Why not!

Rick_Muller · Post by **Rick_Muller** » Wed Dec 05, 2018 8:23 am

Ooogeorgeorgeoghani wrote:Would go for this we don't use the wingers anyway! Tomorrow is all about keeping it tight

exactly my thoughts on it, keep it tight at the back, and long ball to Vydra; and Barnes to beat them up on the break

LoveCurryPies · Post by **LoveCurryPies** » Wed Dec 05, 2018 9:26 am

SGr wrote:Still think Wood is our best striker on ability but the form just isn’t there, Barnes deserves his shot.

I’d start with Barnes and Wood up front. Wood’s form will return and we will see regular goals from the lad.

It’s really a question of whether the midfield are going to get the ball forward.

Goobs · Post by **Goobs** » Wed Dec 05, 2018 9:46 am

Hart
Lowton Tarks Long Gibson Taylor
Westwood Defour Hendrick
Barnes Wood

Young_Claret_91 · Post by **Young_Claret_91** » Wed Dec 05, 2018 10:26 am

—-—————————————-Hart————————————————

———Lowton——Tarkowski——Mee——Long——Taylor—————

—————————Westwood———-Defour—————————————

——-———JBG———————————————————Lennon————

——————————————-Barnes—————————————————