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“In U.S. Media, Israel Is Untouchable”

Post by bluelabrador16 » Tue Dec 04, 2018 12:16 pm

In U.S. Media, Israel Is Untouchable

You can attack the Palestinians in America uninterrupted, call to expel them and deny their existence. Just don’t dare say a bad word about Israel, the holy of holies.

Gideon Levy
"Marc Lamont Hill is an American writer and lecturer in communications at Temple University in Philadelphia, and also an analyst with CNN. In a speech last week at a United Nations conference he called for “international action that will give us what justice requires and that is a free Palestine from the river to the sea.”

In a matter of hours, the skies collapsed into well-orchestrated hysteria. Seth Mandel, editor of the Washington Examiner, accused Hill of having called for Jewish genocide; Ben Shapiro, an analyst on Fox News, called it an anti-Semitic speech; Consul Dani Dayan tweeted that Hill’s remarks were like a “swastika painted in red,” the Anti-Defamation League said they were tantamount to calling for Israel to be wiped off the map. The inevitable outcome was not long in coming and CNN fired the rebel analyst on the very same day.

How dare he? What was he thinking? Where did he think he’s living, in a democracy with free speech or a country where dialogue about Israel is under the serious censorship of the Jewish establishment and Israeli propaganda? Hill tried to claim that he’s opposed to racism and anti-Semitism and his remarks were intended to support the establishment of a binational, secular and democratic state. But he didn’t stand a chance.

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In the heavy-handed reality that has seized control over dialogue in the United States, there’s no room for expressions that may offend the Israeli occupation. On a liberal day it’s permissible to say “two states” as long as you do it in a whisper.

What would have happened if Hill had called for the establishment of a Jewish state between the Jordan and the sea? He would have safely continued holding down his job. ...

The key word of course is anti-Semitism. A lot has been written about the use Israel and its supporters make of anti-Semitism. And it works wondrously, it’s a magic word that silences people. There has not yet been a single critique of occupation that isn’t tagged as anti-Semitism. Everything is anti-Semitism: Hill is anti-Semitic because he favors a one-state solution, Roger Waters is an anti-Semite because that’s how Gilad Erdan described him at a conference last week about propaganda in Germany, UNRWA is anti-Semitic, and of course, BDS. The whole world is against us....

Marc Lamont Hill at UN calls for "Free Palestine from the River to the Sea" to chorus of applause

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvzSv28z97o" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Last week there was a lot of fuss over a world survey of anti-Semitism conducted by CNN. It turns out that the Jews are not as hated as Israel would like: Only 10 percent said they had any negative feelings about them. Nearly four times as many people said they don’t like Muslims. Along with its worrisome aspects, the survey points up more than a few truths you can’t deny. Twenty-eight percent of those questioned said that anti-Semitism in their countries is a result of Israeli policy. A third believe that Israel takes advantage of the Holocaust to advance its positions. One in five thought the Jews have too much influence in the media.

Fire more analysts who dare to criticize Israel or suggest just solutions to the occupation – and more people surveyed will say what everyone knows: The Jews and Israel have an incredible degree of influence in Western media. Now you can call me an anti-Semite, as well.

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Post by RocketLawnChair » Tue Dec 04, 2018 12:21 pm

FFS

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Post by martin_p » Tue Dec 04, 2018 12:23 pm

One of those post where you read the thread title and immediately know who's written it.

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Post by Lancasterclaret » Tue Dec 04, 2018 12:27 pm

Where do the Israelis live if the Palestinian state stretches from "the river to the sea"?

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Post by South West Claret. » Tue Dec 04, 2018 12:55 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:Where do the Israelis live if the Palestinian state stretches from "the river to the sea"?
Where the Palestinians let them.

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Post by Lord Beamish » Tue Dec 04, 2018 1:01 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:Where do the Israelis live if the Palestinian state stretches from "the river to the sea"?
On that bit of land that’s exposed when the tide goes out?

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Post by ontario claret » Tue Dec 04, 2018 1:35 pm

Israel is that rare entity that is supported by both the left and the right in American politics. Jews have always heavily supported the Democrats (at least the secular ones do, and these days they're in the vast majority), while fundamentalist Christians, who always vote Republican, are taught that the final battle of Armageddon will be fought between the "just" (Jews and Christians) and the "unjust" (Muslims), lead by the Antichrist, who will be thrown into a literal fiery pit, and a period of peace will ensue, followed by the Second Coming. So, the left love them for the here and now (besides, Jews wrote most of my economics text books), while the right loves them for the role they'll play in their future. There's no denying, in the meantime, that Jews are a special people, and deserve a home political state of their own. The question always was where? Luckily you Brits provided it for them. I guess that makes you a special people, as well.

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Post by South West Claret. » Tue Dec 04, 2018 1:46 pm

ontario claret wrote:Israel is that rare entity that is supported by both the left and the right in American politics. Jews have always heavily supported the Democrats (at least the secular ones do, and these days they're in the vast majority), while fundamentalist Christians, who always vote Republican, are taught that the final battle of Armageddon will be fought between the "just" (Jews and Christians) and the "unjust" (Muslims), lead by the Antichrist, who will be thrown into a literal fiery pit, and a period of peace will ensue, followed by the Second Coming. So, the left love them for the here and now (besides, Jews wrote most of my economics text books), while the right loves them for the role they'll play in their future. There's no denying, in the meantime, that Jews are a special people, and deserve a home political state of their own. The question always was where? Luckily you Brits provided it for them. I guess that makes you a special people, as well.
Then there's the whole truth:

The Balfour Declaration.

The declaration had two indirect consequences, the emergence of a Jewish state and a chronic state of conflict between Arabs and Jews throughout the Middle East. It has been described as the "original sin" with respect to both Britain's failure in Palestine and for wider events in Palestine. The statement also had a significant impact on the traditional anti-Zionism of religious Jews, some of whom saw it as divine providence; this contributed to the growth of religious Zionism amid the larger Zionist movement.

Starting in 1920, inter communal conflict in Mandatory Palestine broke out, which widened into the regional Arab–Israeli conflict, often referred to as the world's "most intractable conflict". The "dual obligation" to the two communities quickly proved to be untenable; the British subsequently concluded that it was impossible for them to pacify the two communities in Palestine by using different messages for different audiences. The Palestine Royal Commission – in making the first official proposal for partition of the region – referred to the requirements as "contradictory obligations", and that the "disease is so deep-rooted that, in our firm conviction, the only hope of a cure lies in a surgical operation". Following the 1936–1939 Arab revolt in Palestine, and as worldwide tensions rose in the buildup to World War II, the British Parliament approved the White Paper of 1939 – their last formal statement of governing policy in Mandatory Palestine – declaring that Palestine should not become a Jewish State and placing restrictions on Jewish immigration. Whilst the British considered this consistent with the Balfour Declaration's commitment to protect the rights of non-Jews, many Zionists saw it as a repudiation of the declaration. Although this policy lasted until the British surrendered the Mandate in 1948, it served only to highlight the fundamental difficulty for Britain in carrying out the Mandate obligations.

Britain's involvement in this became one of the most controversial parts of its Empire's history, and damaged its reputation in the Middle East for generations. According to historian Elizabeth Monroe: "measured by British interests alone, [the declaration was] one of the greatest mistakes in imperial history. The 2010 study by Jonathan Schneer, specialist in modern British history at Georgia Tech, concluded that because the build-up to the declaration was characterised by "contradictions, deceptions, misinterpretations, and wishful thinking", the declaration sowed dragon's teeth and "produced a murderous harvest, and we go on harvesting even today".[xxxviii] The foundational stone for modern Israel had been laid, but the prediction that this would lay the groundwork for harmonious Arab-Jewish cooperation proved to be wishful thinking.

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Post by bluelabrador16 » Tue Dec 04, 2018 3:04 pm

Marc Lamont Hill Speech at United Nation's International Day of Solidarity with Palestine

In this post, we reproduce the video and unofficial transcript of his speech.
"....While the Universal Declaration for Human Rights says that all people are “born free and equal in dignity and rights,” the Israeli nation state continues to restrict freedom and undermine equality for Palestinian citizens of Israel as well as those in the West Bank and Gaza. At the current moment, there are more than 60 Israeli laws that deny Palestinians access to full citizenship rights, simply because they’re not Jewish. From housing to education to family reunification, it is clear that any freedoms naturally endowed to all human beings are actively being stripped away from Palestinians through Israeli state craft.

While human rights promises the right to life, liberty, and security of person, Palestinians continue to live under the threat of random violence by Israeli military and police, disproportionate violence within the West Bank and Gaza, unprompted violence in the face of peaceful protest, and misdirected violence by an Israeli state that systematically fails to distinguish between civilians and combatants.

While the Universal Declaration for Human Rights protects us again torture and cruel and inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment, Palestinians continue to be physically and psychologically tortured by the Israeli criminal justice system, a term I can only use with irony.

The Universal Declaration for Human Rights promises the right to freedom of movement and residence within the borders of each state as well as the right to leave any country, including his “own” and to return to said country. It is impossible to travel throughout historic Palestine and not see the blatant restriction of movement between cities in the occupied Palestinian territories as well as inside the State of Israel. Standing checkpoints, temporary or flying checkpoints, annexation walls, and other security barriers prevent Palestinians from moving freely, both within areas legally designated by the Israeli government and cosigned by the Palestinian Authority under the terms of Oslo, but also we see in Gaza the restriction of movement that is so severe that it literally defines life in the area.....

and it has reinforced the fact that Israeli is not a state of all of its citizens......

As a Black American, my understanding of action and solidarity action is rooted in our own tradition of struggle. As Black Americans resisted slavery, as well as Jim Crow laws that transformed us from a slave state to an apartheid state, we did so through multiple tactics and strategies. It is this array of tactics that I appeal to as I advocate for concrete action from all of us in this room.

Solidarity from the international community demands that we embrace boycotts, divestment, and sanctions as a critical means by which to hold Israel accountable for its treatment of Palestinian people. This movement, which emerges out of the overwhelming majority of Palestinian civil society offers a nonviolent means by which to demand a return to the pre ’67 borders, full rights for Palestinian citizens, and the right of return as dictated by international law.

And that is a free Palestine from the river to the sea.

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Marc Lamont Hill

"My reference to “river to the sea” was not a call to destroy anything or anyone. It was a call for justice, both in Israel and in the West Bank/Gaza. The speech very clearly and specifically said those things. No amount of debate will change what I actually said or what I meant."

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Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Tue Dec 04, 2018 3:19 pm

bluelabrador16 wrote:Marc Lamont Hill Speech at United Nation's International Day of Solidarity with Palestine

In this post, we reproduce the video and unofficial transcript of his speech.



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Marc Lamont Hill

"My reference to “river to the sea” was not a call to destroy anything or anyone. It was a call for justice, both in Israel and in the West Bank/Gaza. The speech very clearly and specifically said those things. No amount of debate will change what I actually said or what I meant."

Looking at that image are you gonna miss Palestine when it has gone blueracist ?

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Post by bluelabrador16 » Tue Dec 04, 2018 3:26 pm

I have to admit with a degree of sadness that you claretonthecoast1882 don't come across as a nice member of the human race.
C'est la vie

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Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Tue Dec 04, 2018 3:28 pm

bluelabrador16 wrote:I have to admit with a degree of sadness that you claretonthecoast1882 don't come across as a nice member of the human race.
C'est la vie

You mean the same way you express a tolerance for anything Israeli ?

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Post by ontario claret » Tue Dec 04, 2018 4:51 pm

When the Israeli state came into being in 1948, it was immediately attacked by all of its Arab neighbours. The result of this war was a complete and utter victory by the Israelis. This is how Israel's borders expanded. The same thing occurred in 1967. The Arabs attacked, the Israelis won, this time into the Golan Heights and the Suez Canal. To paint Israel as an aggressor in subsequent wars is a complete falsehood. The total stupidity of the Arab cause has led to their downfall. At least Jordan (a Bedouin kingdom), and Egypt had the common sense to make peace with what has become an established entity.

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Post by ontario claret » Tue Dec 04, 2018 4:54 pm

The history of the world is filled with wars that led to the creation and expansion of political entities. To state that Israel has no more right to exist than other countries is blasphemous.

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Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Tue Dec 04, 2018 5:58 pm

No it isn't blasphemous but thanks for playing.

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Post by Lancasterclaret » Tue Dec 04, 2018 7:06 pm

Er, quick comment here Ontario

!967 was an Israeli surprise attack. Definitely because they were about to be attacked, but still an Israeli attack. Still the most successful and brilliant military campaign of pretty much all time it has to be said.

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Post by Imploding Turtle » Tue Dec 04, 2018 7:35 pm

I'm surprised it's taken this long for BlueLab to whine about this.

I think CNN over reacted. I don't think Lamont-Hill was calling for the elimination of Israel but having learned the meaning and context behind the phrase he chose to use i can understand why some might think he was. And I can understand why CNN over-reacted.

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Post by bfcjg » Tue Dec 04, 2018 7:42 pm

If you had to live in a middle eastern country which would you choose ? For me it's a no brained Israel therefore why not support them ? Who would seriously prefer say Iran ?

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Post by Imploding Turtle » Tue Dec 04, 2018 7:50 pm

bfcjg wrote:If you had to live in a middle eastern country which would you choose ? For me it's a no brained Israel therefore why not support them ? Who would seriously prefer say Iran ?
It possible to support a country's right to exist while not supporting them unconditionally. Some of the things Israel do are unforgivable, as is their constant oppression of Palestinians.

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Post by bluelabrador16 » Tue Dec 04, 2018 8:07 pm

ontario claret.....Post 13 :roll:

I hate to think where you learnt your history from.

ontario claret....Post 14
"... To state that Israel has no more right to exist than other countries..."
A racist, genocidal, supremacist, apartheid state, with concentration camps and open air prisons for millions, shouldn't.

Marc Lamont Hill, Gideon Levy, Myself and many others are advocating a "one-state solution" to the situation....Israel/Palestine

The following is a start:
" the Universal Declaration for Human Rights says that all people are “born free and equal in dignity and rights,”

human rights promises the right to life, liberty, and security of person

Universal Declaration for Human Rights promises the right to freedom of movement and residence within the borders of each state as well as the right to leave any country, including his “own” and to return to said country"
ontario claret .....

Why not join those with foresight in advocating for the establishment of a binational, secular and democratic state from the river to the sea.
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Post by Spiral » Tue Dec 04, 2018 8:18 pm

bluelabrador16 wrote:
ontario claret....Post 14


A racist, genocidal, supremacist, apartheid state, with concentration camps and open air prisons for millions, shouldn't [have more right to exist].
Already regret bumping this thread but I have to say that's some breathtakingly stupid logic you're displaying there. Is 'all the above' you allege a fundamental component of a state's existence or are they choices made by government in spite of the right of a nation to exist? And to further the point, should the decisions made by a government determine the fate of a state's right to exit as an entity, and could you pleas also then apply such logic to Palestinian terrorism? Because it's dumb as f.uck and I'm curious to see where you go with this.
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Post by Imploding Turtle » Tue Dec 04, 2018 8:20 pm

Spiral wrote:Already regret bumping this thread but I have to say that's some breathtakingly stupid logic you're displaying there. Is 'all the above' you allege a fundamental component of a state's existence or are they choices made by government in spite of the right of a nation to exist? And to further the point, should the decisions made by a government determine the fate of a state's right to exit as an entity, and could you also then please apply such logic to Palestinian terrorism?
I wonder how he would plan to see Israel no longer exist without a genocide since genocide is apparently one of the reasons it shouldn't exist.

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Post by South West Claret. » Tue Dec 04, 2018 9:06 pm

In case some have forgotten the Zionist state that is known as the State of Israel is an occupying force in the Country of Palestine, therefore if there are any terrorists in Palestine they are Israeli terrorists.

Further more Israel are in breach of United Nations resolutions, The UN Security Council has declared the annexation of the Golan Heights and East Jerusalem to be "null and void" and continues to view the territories as occupied by Israel.

So given that if a foreign Country occupied this Country what do think we would do just stand by and let the occupiers build houses and put their own people in them while they try and destroy our crops on farms.. of course not so why do some think it's just fine for the Israelis to do the same in Palestine?

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Post by Spiral » Tue Dec 04, 2018 10:37 pm

South West Claret. wrote:So given that if a foreign Country occupied this Country what do think we would do just stand by and let the occupiers build houses and put their own people in them while they try and destroy our crops on farms.. of course not so why do some think it's just fine for the Israelis to do the same in Palestine?
Aside from the fact Jews have lived in what is now modern day Israel/Palestine for millennia, (many emigrating to Europe during the early industrial revolution after finding themselves increasingly marginalised in the Middle East, causing a "problem" in Europe to which a "solution" was apparently needed), it isn't fine, and nobody is stating it is. It's horrible, in fact, what living Palestinians endure to say nothing of the dead ones, but it seems rather odd to moralise over what is essentially a consequence of regional (and you can put your bull$hit global Zionist conspiracy theories away, bluelabrador) sectarian hatred, especially if we're being realistic about the fate the Jewish Israelites would suffer were they not determined in their aims to have a state in which they aren't a minority amongst Muslims - many of whom in the region are fundamental in their ideological beliefs as a result of a sick combination of poverty and piety, none of those two things due to Israel. We can argue all day about the means by which that safety is achieved, and I'd agree with a hell of a lot of the hand wringing over Israel's treatment of the Palestinians, but it's the weird leap in logic that usually sees people questioning the right of the state to exist on the grounds that the actions of its governments are abhorrent that has me sat here scratching my head.

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Post by ontario claret » Wed Dec 05, 2018 3:57 pm

If the Arabs within the Israeli state who hold citizenship are allowed to vote and are actually represented in the Knesset by a party, then why is there persecution and concentration camps, and where, exactly are these camps. And why doesn`t CNN know about it.

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Post by PutTheWheelieBinsOut » Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:37 pm

It would be much better for the whole world if everyone just accepted that God doesn't exist and therefore all religions are pointless.

Let's face it if there was a God, he'd be pretty useless if he can't get it right on his home turf - Isreal.

What did Jesus die for.... it appears for nothing. God apparently killed his own son for no reason, only a maniac would do that.

God apparently is all powerful, so it makes me laugh when people pray to God for the victims of natural disasters. How about the almighty one stopped the natural disaster in the first place.... or maybe he chooses not to.

Get rid of religion and then we can make progress on peace.

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Post by Lancasterclaret » Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:39 pm

Is that a mob with flaming torches I see heading towards your house PTWBO?

You've finally united all the faiths (well, until they argue about how best to kill you obviously!)

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Post by Herts Clarets » Thu Dec 06, 2018 1:32 pm

Got to say Israel was one of the nicest places I have been to on holiday......

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Post by South West Claret. » Thu Dec 06, 2018 1:57 pm

Herts Clarets wrote:Got to say Israel was one of the nicest places I have been to on holiday......
I'm told that Germany was in the early 1940's as well but it helped if you were a Nazi.

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Post by Taffy on the wing » Thu Dec 06, 2018 6:22 pm

Israel is a racist, Apartheid state!....Besides that i hear it's nice this time of year.
Unless of course you're a Palestinian.

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Post by Damo » Thu Dec 06, 2018 7:01 pm

Nothing like the subject of Israel to bring out all of the mentalists

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Post by ontario claret » Thu Dec 06, 2018 7:07 pm

And as the latest rounds of homemade rockets from the Gaza Strip land with no apparent effect on Israel, and mobs of Palestinians approach the border while burning tires (why do they always burn tires), the world sits back and wonders what the next development will be. Can man exist with mere ethics alone, or is there an invisible guiding hand (and I don't mean the invisible hand of the marketplace.)

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Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Thu Dec 06, 2018 8:33 pm

ontario claret wrote:And as the latest rounds of homemade rockets from the Gaza Strip land with no apparent effect on Israel, and mobs of Palestinians approach the border while burning tires (why do they always burn tires), the world sits back and wonders what the next development will be. Can man exist with mere ethics alone, or is there an invisible guiding hand (and I don't mean the invisible hand of the marketplace.)
The guiding hand of religion is the issue.
Despite them worshipping the same god :roll:

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Post by bluelabrador16 » Thu Dec 06, 2018 10:33 pm

Obstacle to Peace: The US Role in the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict

Jeremy R. Hammond

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Inside its pages, you'll learn:

How US and Israeli policies have strengthened Hamas

Why Israel implemented an illegal policy of collectively punishing the civilian population of Gaza, and how it's been able to do so with impunity

What really happened during Operation Cast Lead and Operation Pillar of Defense, two of Israel's large-scale military assaults on the defenseless Gaza Strip

What the so-called "peace process" is and why the US pursues it so aggressively

Why Israel attacked the Mavi Marmara in international waters, and why the US defended the killing of nine peace activists on board

How Israel has maintained its occupation of Palestine and what must happen to bring it to an end

What must occur for Palestinian refugees to have a realistic hope of exercising their right to return to their homeland

How and why the US mainstream media manipulate information so as to manufacture consent for US foreign policy

How to decipher the euphemistic language used by the government and media to deceive the public

How the United Nations helped create the conflict and how Secretary General Ban Ki-moon has played a duplicitous role

What the Goldstone Report was, what its findings were, and why it so upset the US and Israel

How, despite congenial rhetoric to the contrary, the Obama administration has continued the longstanding US policy of rejecting the rights of the Palestinian people

And much more!

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E.g 1967 War
"In 1982, Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin acknowledged, “In June 1967 we again had a choice. The Egyptian army concentrations in the Sinai approaches do not prove that Nasser was really about to attack us. We must be honest with ourselves. We decided to attack him.”

Under international law, Israel’s attack on Egypt constituted aggression, defined at Nuremberg as “the supreme international crime”.


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Just Another Day

Video shows Israeli soldier firing tear gas into Palestinian school in West Bank

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The photo published by Haaretz shows a box filled with dozens of used tear gas canisters and stun grenades collected by a school in al-Khalil (Hebron) after the Israeli army shot them into the school over the past few months.

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Re: “In U.S. Media, Israel Is Untouchable”

Post by ontario claret » Fri Dec 07, 2018 2:15 am

Another reason why to never trust the internet.

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Re: “In U.S. Media, Israel Is Untouchable”

Post by Imploding Turtle » Fri Dec 07, 2018 2:27 am

ontario claret wrote:Another reason why to never trust the internet.

There are plenty of great sources of information on the internet, and there are plenty of dogshit sources. Anyone with even a tiny bit of critical thinking can, in time, figure out which ones are dogshit.

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Re: “In U.S. Media, Israel Is Untouchable”

Post by ClaretMoffitt » Fri Dec 07, 2018 6:26 am

Lancasterclaret wrote:Where do the Israelis live if the Palestinian state stretches from "the river to the sea"?
they don't.

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Re: “In U.S. Media, Israel Is Untouchable”

Post by Lancasterclaret » Fri Dec 07, 2018 8:00 am

**** Moff, I know that, I just want Blue Lab to confirm that he wants to exchange his Palestinian holocaust for another Jewish one.

He's definitely not got the hang of two wrongs don't make a right.

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Re: “In U.S. Media, Israel Is Untouchable”

Post by bluelabrador16 » Fri Dec 07, 2018 5:22 pm

Lancasterclaret
Where do the Israelis live if the Palestinian state stretches from "the river to the sea"?
:roll:

I hope this was a poor attempt at sarcasm/humour. Nonetheless, you quickly joined in the manufactured controversy (i.e. smear campaign) regarding Marc Lamont Hill’s UN speech. Sad!

Marc Lamont Hill must be reinstated .... Hatem Abudayyeh
"...Hill believes, like many millions across the world, that justice requires “a free Palestine from the river to the sea.” This clause in his speech is what drew the ire of the Anti-Defamation League and other extreme anti-Palestinian voices in the US, some who disingenuously even accused him of calling for the genocide of Israeli Jews.

“From the river to the sea”

But “Palestine will be free, from the river to the sea” has been a slogan of the Palestine national movement for decades and it has never meant the eradication of anyone.

It signifies the political sentiment that a white settler-colony state built on the Zionist premise that those who identify as Jews anywhere in the world have more of a right to the land of historic Palestine than the Palestinians who have lived there for generations is a racist concept that has led to inequality, apartheid, the illegal Israeli military occupation of Palestinian lands, and vicious crimes against the Palestinian people.

It also represents the political reality that a two-state solution has never been viable.

Israeli-only settlements have been built on expropriated Palestinian land in Jerusalem and elsewhere in the West Bank since 1967 in violation of international law. Palestinians make up 20 percent of the population of Israel, and the Gaza Strip and the West Bank are not contiguous territories. Freedom from the river to the sea simply means that the only real solution to the Palestine question is a single democratic state in historic Palestine, where all the people who live there enjoy equal rights.

So Hill’s political “crime” is that he upholds equal rights for Palestinians, but he is also even more “guilty” of being a representative of the Black liberation movement in this country, a large and constantly growing section of which believes, as he does, that Palestinian rights are directly bound to the rights of Black people in the US......

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Welcome To Chanukah Apartheid
"During the holiday of Hanukkah, the town of Afula’s municipal park will be off limits to Arabs. The park was already closed Nov. 24 to visitors from nearby villages. Only the Jewish residents of Afula were allowed to enjoy time with their families in this public space. This Hanukkah will be the first holiday in which access to the park is limited to Jews."

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"If any European, Arab, African or Indian leader had to publicly announce that a nation should be for their people only, and that a war would result with anyone who disagreed, these same Zionist extremists and their fellow Jewish Supremacists in the media would relentlessly attack and denigrate them."

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Re: “In U.S. Media, Israel Is Untouchable”

Post by NRC » Fri Dec 07, 2018 5:58 pm

ontario claret wrote:If the Arabs within the Israeli state who hold citizenship are allowed to vote and are actually represented in the Knesset by a party, then why is there persecution and concentration camps, and where, exactly are these camps. And why doesn`t CNN know about it.
they're over the US/Arizona border in Mexico, OC - doubling up as camps for the immigrant caravan folks that are about to invade Arizona that Trump has lamented as being wall-free

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Re: “In U.S. Media, Israel Is Untouchable”

Post by ontario claret » Fri Dec 07, 2018 9:22 pm

Yes, NRC. Thy're massing on the Mexican/American border, waiting to board the landing craft in order to cross the Rio Grande. Reminds me of how Hezbollah are supposedly massing on the Lebanon border in order to take over Israel. Both parties rank in the general category of ignorant sheep herders. Of course ignorant sheep herders is what has kept various NATO forces pinned down in Afghanistan for how many years. But they're only there to protect our freedom, or so certain right-wing politicos would have you believe.

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Re: “In U.S. Media, Israel Is Untouchable”

Post by bluelabrador16 » Mon Dec 10, 2018 5:42 pm

The Occupation of the American Mind
"Over the past few years, Israel's ongoing military occupation of Palestinian territory and repeated invasions of the Gaza strip have triggered a fierce backlash against Israeli policies virtually everywhere in the world -- except the United States. The Occupation of the American Mind takes an eye-opening look at this critical exception, zeroing in on pro-Israel public relations efforts within the U.S.

Narrated by Roger Waters and featuring leading observers of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and U.S. media culture, the film explores how the Israeli government, the U.S. government, and the pro-Israel lobby have joined forces, often with very different motives, to shape American media coverage of the conflict in Israel's favor. From the U.S.-based public relations campaigns that emerged in the 1980s to today, the film provides a sweeping analysis of Israel's decades-long battle for the hearts, minds, and tax dollars of the American people in the face of widening international condemnation of its increasingly right-wing policies...."

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Occupation of the American Mind
A look at the information wars waged by Israel and its supporters to win the hearts and minds of the American people.

"The 2014 war on Gaza saw the Israeli military launch a devastating attack on the Gaza Strip. Over the course of 51 days, Israel dropped nearly 20,000 tonnes of explosives on Gaza, killing more than 2,000 Palestinians, wounding tens of thousands and obliterating countless homes. The overwhelming majority of the casualties were civilians..."

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the art of chutzpah....

defend the indefensible...

live in their country freely...

#BLM .. from Ferguson to Palestine the struggle for freedom continues

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