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Burnley v Liverpool - Player Ratings

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 10:19 pm
by ClaretTony
Please leave ratings for all players who have played 20 mins or more.

Scoring is from 3 to 10 as follows:

10 - Out of this World
9 - Excellent
8 - Very Good
7 - Good
6 - Average
5 - Below Par
4 - Poor
3 - Abysmal

Re: Burnley v Liverpool - Player Ratings

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 10:20 pm
by theroyaldyche
No1 less than 7

Re: Burnley v Liverpool - Player Ratings

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 10:27 pm
by maidenover
Hart 8
Bardsley 9 MoM
Tarkowski 7
Mee 6
Taylor 7
Cork 6
Westwood 6
Brady 7
JBG 6
Wood 5
Barnes 7

Vokes 6
Lennon 6

Re: Burnley v Liverpool - Player Ratings

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 10:30 pm
by burnley007
Hart 8 MOM. Incredible save
Bardsley 8
Tarkowski 7
Mee 6
Taylor 7
Cork 7
Westwood 7
Brady 7
JBG 7
Wood 5
Barnes 8

Vokes 6
Lennon 5


Decent, compared to the recent rubbish

Re: Burnley v Liverpool - Player Ratings

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 10:30 pm
by jdrobbo
Hart 6
Bardsley 8
Tarkowski 7
Mee 6
Taylor 6
Cork 6
Westwood 8
Brady 7
JBG 6
Wood 5
Barnes 6

Vokes 5
Lennon 5

Re: Burnley v Liverpool - Player Ratings

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 10:32 pm
by taio
Hart 8
Bardsley 8*
Tarkowski 7
Mee 7
Taylor 6
Cork 7
Westwood 8
Brady 6
JBG 6
Wood 5
Barnes 7

Re: Burnley v Liverpool - Player Ratings

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 10:33 pm
by RalphCoatesComb
Hart 7
Bardsley 8 (1 for his passion)
Tarkowski 7
Mee 7
Taylor 7
Cork 7
Westwood 7
Brady 6
JBG 7
Wood 6
Barnes 7

Vokes 7
Lennon 6

Re: Burnley v Liverpool - Player Ratings

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 10:33 pm
by Rick_Muller
Hart 6
Bardsley 10 MoM
Tarkowski 8
Mee 7
Taylor 8
Cork 7
Westwood 9
Brady 7
JBG 7
Wood 6
Barnes 8

Vokes 7
Lennon 7

Re: Burnley v Liverpool - Player Ratings

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 10:34 pm
by theroyaldyche
All copying 5s for wood from the previous poster. He did well tnite with barnes

Re: Burnley v Liverpool - Player Ratings

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 10:35 pm
by DCWat
Hart 8
Bardsley 8
Tarkowski 7
Mee 7
Taylor 7
Cork 7
Westwood 7
Brady 7
JBG 6
Wood 6
Barnes 7

Vokes 6
Lennon 5

Re: Burnley v Liverpool - Player Ratings

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 10:37 pm
by joey13
Hart 8
Bardsley 8
Tarkowski 7
Mee 6
Taylor 7
Cork 7
Westwood 7
Brady 7
JBG 6
Wood 7
Barnes 8

Vokes 6
Lennon 5

Re: Burnley v Liverpool - Player Ratings

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 10:38 pm
by Top Claret
Hart 7
Bardsley 8 MOM
Tarks 8
Mee 7
Taylor 6
Brady 7
Westwood 6
Cork 6
Jbg 6
Wood 6
Barnes 6

Far better performance

Re: Burnley v Liverpool - Player Ratings

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 10:40 pm
by PhiladelphiaChris
Hart 8
Bardsley 9
Tarkowski 8
Mee 7
Taylor 8
Cork 7
Westwood 8
Brady 7
JBG 7
Wood 7
Barnes 8

Vokes 7
Lennon 7

Re: Burnley v Liverpool - Player Ratings

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 10:41 pm
by SalisburyClaret
Hart 8 cracking save
Bardsley 8* played on the edge but got away with it
Tarkowski 7
Mee 6
Taylor 7
Cork 7
Westwood 7
Brady 7 missed him when he went off
JBG 6
Wood 5 as sharp as soap
Barnes 8

Vokes 6
Lennon 5

Re: Burnley v Liverpool - Player Ratings

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 10:43 pm
by burnleymik
Hart 8 - Some great saves, including the worldy he tipped onto the post. Kept us in the game.
Bardsley 9 - Where did that come from? Everywhere, crunching tackles, incredible determination and passion, some belting runs and the confidence to shoot from well outside the box. Impressive. MOM.
Tarkowski 7 - Solid. Looked to have found that connection again with Mee.
Mee 7 - Very good foot in on that Salah run and looked more assured tonight. Couple of mistakes, not quite a good as Tarks, but was a close 6 or 7.
Taylor 7 - One piece of cover early doors, where he was across covering for the right back was impressive and he did okay tonight.
Cork 7 - Finally good to see him putting the effort in. Couple of wayward passes, but a couple of times he picked up loose balls and made those forward passes and moves.
Westwood 6 - Didn't think he was in the game much, can;t remember him doing an awful lot.
Brady 7 - Thought he was a different player from the one we saw at Palace. Very good defensive work, really putting his opponents under the cosh and whipped some good balls into the box.
JBG 6 - He was one of the few who just didn't seem to get into it. Had a couple of opportunities, but it just got away from him. Think he did okay with his defensive duties though.
Wood 5 - Poor again unfortunately. Couldn't get the ball out from under himself at crucial times to shoot.
Barnes 8 - Was unlucky to slip at a couple of importnant moments, but never stopped working, chasing and hustling. As good as those Liverpool defenders were, he made them work for it.

Vokes 5 - Rarely see Sam get dominated in the air, but that Van Dyke had him completely covered. Unfortunately didn't offer us much after he came on.
Lennon 6 - Was trying hard, but it wasn't happening for him. Seem to be getting a little bit frustrated towards the end.
Vydra - Not really time to judge him. Although he fell over the ball, seemed a bit too keen, he seems to have the passion, desire and work-rate. Never stopped running.

Re: Burnley v Liverpool - Player Ratings

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 10:47 pm
by IanMcL
Hart 5....I am not convinced at all. His 'super saves' tonight were caused by slightly slow reactions. His ability to stay on the line caused problems and he should have read that 3rd goal and cut it out. Either he has a slowness of reaction - fatal for a keeper- or he has a sight problem, which could be corrected.
Bardsley 8 - set the tone, with his tenacity.
Tarkowski 7
Mee 7
Taylor 7
Cork 7
Westwood 7
Brady 7
JBG 7
Wood 5
Barnes 8

Vokes 6
Lennon 6

The Clarets are back.

Re: Burnley v Liverpool - Player Ratings

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 10:51 pm
by FCBurnley
Hart 8
Bardsley 8
Tarks 7
Mee 6
Taylor 7
JBG 6
Cork 7
Westwood 7
Brady 7
Wood 5
Barnes 7 Brilliant blocking of VD on corner that led to our goal. Fabulous finish for disallowed goal

Re: Burnley v Liverpool - Player Ratings

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 10:52 pm
by Buxtonclaret
Hart 8
Bardsley 8 **
Tarks 7
Mee 6
Taylor 6

Cork 6
Westwood 7
Brady 7
JBG 6
Wood 5
Barnes 7

Vokes 6
Lennon 5

Always disappointing to lose. But the way we've been losing recently has been dire.
Much, much better tonight against one of the best teams in Europe.
Certainly didn't deserve to get beat 3-1.

Last season, we took points against sides we weren't expected to playing like that.
Keep that level up and, reckon we've a chance of staying up.

Re: Burnley v Liverpool - Player Ratings

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 10:54 pm
by kaptin1
Hart 7
Bardsley 8
Tarkowski 7
Mee 7
Taylor 7
JBG 7
Cork 8
Westwood 8
Brady 7
Barnes 7
Wood 4

Re: Burnley v Liverpool - Player Ratings

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:02 pm
by CoolClaret
Hart 8
Bardsley 9 quality
Tarkowski 7
Mee 6 - minus one for leaving Firmino on the set piece
Taylor 5 - He's our worst player with no right foot.
Cork 6
Westwood 7
Brady 6
JBG 6
Wood 5
Barnes 7

Vokes 6
Lennon 5

Re: Burnley v Liverpool - Player Ratings

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:04 pm
by BOYSIE31
Hart 8
Bardsley 9
Mee 6
Tarks 6
Taylor 6
Cork 6
Westwood 6
JBG 6
Brady 7
Barnes 6
Wood 4

Lennon 5
Bikes 5
Vydra

Re: Burnley v Liverpool - Player Ratings

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:12 pm
by ClaretTony
That result was cruel, this was much more like the Burnley we know and it is a pleasure to be giving these kind of marks.

Hart 7
Bardsley 8
Tarkowski 7
Mee 7
Taylor 7
JBG 6
Westwood 8
Cork 6
Brady 7
Wood 6
Barnes 7

Re: Burnley v Liverpool - Player Ratings

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:12 pm
by Steve-Harpers-perm
Hart 8
Bardsley 8
Taylor 7
Mee 7
Tarkowski 7
Cork 7
Westwood 8
Brady 7
JBG 7
Barnes 7
Wood 6

Much better performance and signs of us getting back to what we are about. Massive game Saturday now.

Re: Burnley v Liverpool - Player Ratings

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:14 pm
by Inchy
theroyaldyche wrote:All copying 5s for wood from the previous poster. He did well tnite with barnes

No he didn’t. He took far to long to get the ball out of his feet twice ruining two good chances. What else did he offer? He missed an easy header as well but fortionately he was miles offside, which is no surprise

Re: Burnley v Liverpool - Player Ratings

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:14 pm
by KlyBfc
Hart 8
Bardsley 8 a proper fullbacks performance nearly crowned with a worldly close to mom
Tarks 7 (knocked a point off because I thought he lost VVD on the second)
Mee 8 fantastic defending
Taylor 7 very slow at getting out at times
Brady 7 worked hard and looked much more assured tonight
JBG 7 a threat in glimpses and put a shift in
Cork 8 I thought he was excellent tonight
Westwood 8 MoM like cork is excellent, everywhere with an eye for a pass
Barnes 8 almost a wonderful goal
Wood 7 put a shift in, linked well, just clearly lacking confidence/belief in front of goal

A really enjoyed the effort and passion. Perhaps I’ve over marked and if I watched it again maybe my marks would be adjusted. However considering what we have witnessed in recent months that performance against the second best team in the country made me very proud

Re: Burnley v Liverpool - Player Ratings

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:15 pm
by Vegas Claret
Hart 8
Bardsley 8 **
Tarks 7
Mee 6
Taylor 6
Cork 6
Westwood 7
Brady 7
JBG 6
Wood 4 - shouldn't be anywhere near the PL
Barnes 7

Re: Burnley v Liverpool - Player Ratings

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:22 pm
by Blackrod
Hart 7
Bardsley 8 excellent performance. Probably his best in a Burnley shirt. Mom
Tarkowski 7
Mee 6
Taylor 5 not convinced
JBG 6
Westwood 7
Cork 6
Brady 6
Barnes 7 shows passion which always wins fans over
Wood 5

Subs no real impact although the right subs. Perhaps Vydra could have had more time.

Much better and some positives but it's another defeat. We have to get points from somewhere. The first half we looked much more at it with a better tempo and more pressing but silly mistakes are our undoing.

Re: Burnley v Liverpool - Player Ratings

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:23 pm
by piston broke
Hart......7. Two top saves but has to dive for their first.
Bardsley..9.MoM
Tarks......7
Mee.......7
JBG........6
Cork.......7. Big improvement
Westwood.6
Brady......7
Barnes.....7
Wood.......6

Vokes......6
Lennon....5
Vydra......n/a

Much better but conceded 3 sloppy goals. Excuse the last one as we were pressing.

Re: Burnley v Liverpool - Player Ratings

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:28 pm
by Cirrus_Minor
Hart 8
Bardsley 8
Tarkowski 7
Mee 7
Taylor 8
Brady 7
Westwood 8
Cork 7
JBG 6
Barnes 8
Wood 6

Vokes 5
Lennon 6

Re: Burnley v Liverpool - Player Ratings

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:29 pm
by Cirrus_Minor
Hart 8
Bardsley 8
Tarkowski 7
Mee 7
Taylor 8
Brady 7
Westwood 8
Cork 7
JBG 6
Barnes 8
Wood 6

Vokes 5
Lennon 6

Re: Burnley v Liverpool - Player Ratings

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:34 pm
by Cubanclaret
Hart 6
Bardsley 8* Albeit always feel he’s a challenge away from a sending off
Tarks 7 - good to have him back,although lost van dijk got crucial second goal (which was a mirror image of their last minute strike last season, was it not ?)
Mee 7
Taylor 7
Brady 7 much better
Westwood 7
Cork 7
Gudmundsson 6
Barnes 7
Wood 5

Vokes 7 (he’s better option than Wood right now)
Lennon 7
Vydra 6

Re: Burnley v Liverpool - Player Ratings

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:06 am
by Burnleyareback2
As a huge Ward fan, I have to say that was Taylor’s best game tonight. Same with Lowton and Bardsley

Re: Burnley v Liverpool - Player Ratings

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:09 am
by ClaretTony
Vegas Claret wrote:Wood 4 - shouldn't be anywhere near the PL
Neither should you with that comment. I know we are all entitled to opinions but the work he got through tonight was absolutely incredible.

Re: Burnley v Liverpool - Player Ratings

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:11 am
by claretgimmer
Hart 6
Bardsley 8 MoM Set the tone for the team
Tarkowski 7
Mee 6
Taylor 5 Not PL standard
Cork 6 Worked hard but got himself over run at times
Westwood 7
Brady 7 Getting there, looked more of a threat than against Newcastle
JBG 7 Linked up well with Bardsley
Wood 4 Please drop him, we could have been two up by HT poor control, lacks strength and as for being pacey, don`t make me laugh.
Barnes 7 Great strike for the offside goal didn`t win many headers against VVD but makes a nuisance of himself and others should take advantage of this

Vokes 5 gave VVD a bit more to think about
Lennon 5 No end product

Dyche 4 Better tonight but the fact that he still thinks Wood is worthy of a starting place after recent games instead of Vydra doesn`t make me think he will get us out of trouble, we don`t create enough chances to spurn them as easily as Wood does

Re: Burnley v Liverpool - Player Ratings

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:18 am
by Claret
Hart 7
Bardsley 8
Tarkowski 8
Mee 7
Taylor 8
Cork 7
Westwood 8
Brady 7
JBG 6
Wood 5
Barnes 6

Vokes 5
Lennon 6

Re: Burnley v Liverpool - Player Ratings

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:31 am
by Quickenthetempo
ClaretTony wrote:Neither should you with that comment. I know we are all entitled to opinions but the work he got through tonight was absolutely incredible.
Got some good chances tonight but looks devoid of confidence.
He looked to have loads of time for the first one after Barnes flicked on but took a touch and got swamped.

He will only get his confidence back by playing him though.

Re: Burnley v Liverpool - Player Ratings

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:35 am
by THEWELLERNUT70
Hart 8
Bardsley 9 *
Tarkowski 8
Mee 5
Taylor 7
Cork 6
Westwood 6
Brady 7
JBG 6
Wood 5
Barnes 7

Vokes 6
Lennon 6

Re: Burnley v Liverpool - Player Ratings

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:43 am
by strayclaret
More like us
Hart 6 minus 1 for not diving for first
Bardsley 8
Tarkowski 7
Mee 7
Taylor 7
Cork 7
Westwood 7
Brady 7
JBG 6
Wood 6
Barnes 6

Vokes 6
Lennon 5
A lot better, play like that against “lesser teams” and we’ll be alright.

Re: Burnley v Liverpool - Player Ratings

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:47 am
by fidelcastro
IanMcL wrote:Hart 5....I am not convinced at all. His 'super saves' tonight were caused by slightly slow reactions. His ability to stay on the line caused problems and he should have read that 3rd goal and cut it out. Either he has a slowness of reaction - fatal for a keeper- or he has a sight problem, which could be corrected.
Agenda driven b0llocks :roll:

Re: Burnley v Liverpool - Player Ratings

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:54 am
by LoveCurryPies
Christ, some of you are hard to please. Liverpool are second best team in the country but you still score Cork with 6 points. Did you forget he scored?

Personally, I would say all the players deserve an 8. That was a spirited performance. Bardsey certainly showed why he should be in the team. Barnes really caused them a lot of problems. Feel sorry for Chris Wood but am confident the goals are coming. Lennon and Vydra showed real potential. Good to see Gudmanson, Tarkowski and Brady back.

Re: Burnley v Liverpool - Player Ratings

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:57 am
by Taffy on the wing
theroyaldyche wrote:All copying 5s for wood from the previous poster. He did well tnite with barnes
Pressed like by mistake, from my computer he looked disinterested, he'd even turned his back in disgust during our goal! Not ideal from a striker.

Re: Burnley v Liverpool - Player Ratings

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 2:25 am
by Vegas Claret
ClaretTony wrote:Neither should you with that comment. I know we are all entitled to opinions but the work he got through tonight was absolutely incredible.
so you think having the ability to run around a lot is all you need to play in the Premier League............sorry Tony not for me. He might work hard (first time this season) but he isn't clinical enough at this level even in comparison to someone like Barnes. To be fair to him, we aren't playing to his strengths either but that doesn't change his lack of finishing, we are struggling and could do with playing our most clinical players and for that reason I'd prefer Vydra be given a chance.

Re: Burnley v Liverpool - Player Ratings

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 6:08 am
by Colburn_Claret
Hart 8
Bardsley 10 inspirational stiff at both ends of the pitch
Tarks 8 great game back
Mee 8 much, much better
Taylor 7 apart from a couple of moments a solid game
Brady 8 not a lot going forward, but definitely up for it and did some great defending
Cork 8 as Ben Mee good to see him back, a few hairy moments second half, but so much better than of late.
Westwood 7 steady
JBG 7 steady without being inspirational
Barnes 8 weve needed that fight at the top of the pitch for ages, he's also so much better at linking play than all our other strikers. He should , and deserves to start every game.
Wood 6 put himself about a lot more and seemed up for it, but missed another glorious chance, and then it was offside, offside, offside, offside..............he needs to sort it out, because he's spoiling himself.



If the marks are high in a defeat, it's because I was so happy to see us back to where we need to be in this league. Liverpool were the better team, but with a little bit of luck we could have got something out of that game.

Re: Burnley v Liverpool - Player Ratings

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 6:52 am
by Nonayforever
Hart 8
Bardsley 9
Tarks 7
Meet 6
Taylor 6
JBG 7
Westwood 8
Cork 7
Brady 7
Barnes 9
Wood 4

Vokes 6
Lennon 6

Re: Burnley v Liverpool - Player Ratings

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 6:56 am
by Flat Stanley
Hart 7 Some great saves but I thought he could have got the first goal. Maybe unsighted but he was not that far away from it and didn't even dive.
Bardsley 8 A thug but maybe that's what we needed. Lucky not to have got a red or at least a yellow card early on but set the tone for the performance.
Mee 6 Good performance generally, lost his man for second goal.
Tarks 7 slotted straight back in, great performance but let Van Dyke go for the second goal.
Taylor 6 Did ok. Keep wanting him to turn into the player I thought we signed but after all this time starting to think he is too one footed and not up to the PL.
Westwood 8 very tidy and lots of energy
Cork 7 Back to his best
JBG 6 solid without much attacking threat
Brady 7 A world away from the Newcastle game!
Barnes 7 Fought well
Wood 5 Low on confidence

Vokes 6 ok
Lennon 6 ok

Best performance of the season but still leaking soft goals.

Re: Burnley v Liverpool - Player Ratings

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 7:11 am
by MACCA
Hart 6 first goal looked suspect, walked to within 2 yards of the ball. Dislike when keepers just watch the ball going in.
Bardsley 8 great display, set the tone MOM
Tarks 7
Meet 6 left his man for the 2nd, a few other lapses against quite a poor front 2 of Sturridge and Origi
Taylor 7 did well
JBG 6 quotes game for him than ususl
Westwood 7
Cork 7 +1 for goal
Brady 7 our dead balls looking better now he's back
Barnes 7 put himself about, great finish, played a part in the goal
Wood 6 better, just needs to work on the offside, he seems nearly almost always off from.the start.

Vokes 6
Lennon 6

Klopp condoning our tackling saying we were unfair and playing like a bowling ball knocking down skittles.
Well Mr Klopp, like bowling, that's the aim of the game. Us fans want to see some fight and passion from.our boys, and it was all done fairly.

Well done Mr Dyche for being brave and ringing the changes, it certainly worked.

Bring on Brighton, as of we keep this up we will pick up a few wins.

Re: Burnley v Liverpool - Player Ratings

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 7:26 am
by Claretmonkey77
Hart 7 did what he had to do.
Bardsley 9 great passion and defence contribution.
Tarks 8 good display and connection with Mee.
Mee 8 more assured and confident with tarks beside him.
Taylor 7 steady and calm.
Cork 8 good battling energetic display.
Westwood 8 positive and combative, one of his better games.
Jbg 7 not his usually penetrative self but good defence assistance.
Brady 8 good movement and positivity, seemed to tire towards end.
Wood 6 needs a goal and confidence booster. Just didn’t fall right for him tonight, but he still tries.
Barnes 8 great game, both on and off the ball. He gets free kicks, worries defenders and has an eye for goal. Must start if we are gonna be positive and win games.
Vokes 7 steady away. Not much time to impress.
Lennon 7 I’m not a big fan as he underwhelms too much.
Vydra 7 he’s a better option than woods with Barnes up front.
Dyche 8 his tactics and plan were spot on, just missing that bit of class or luck to execute the full plan and claim 3 points and get back on track.
If we play like this every week, we’ll be fine.
UTC.

Re: Burnley v Liverpool - Player Ratings

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 7:49 am
by IndigoLake
Hart 7 - Made some good saves. Can't be faulted for the goals
Bardsley 9 - Fantastic performance
Tarks 7
Meet 8 - Back to his old self
Taylor 6
JBG 6
Westwood 7
Cork 8 - 1000x the player he was last weekend
Brady 7
Barnes 8 - We have to play him every game.
Wood 5 - He's low on confidence but he'll improve with a goal

Vokes 6
Lennon 6

Re: Burnley v Liverpool - Player Ratings

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 8:00 am
by arise_sir_charge
Surprised by some of the low marks for Taylor. Recently he’s been one of our better outfield players and I think he’s growing into a very capable left back at this level.

Re: Burnley v Liverpool - Player Ratings

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 8:22 am
by Flixton Claret
Hart 8 - right attitude but always feel there's a softie round the corner
Bardsley 10 Flawless MOM.
Tarkowski 9 no post operation hangover / brave as always
Mee 8 look like he really cared tonight
Taylor 8 one of his best performances
Cork 7 - a much improved shift
Westwood 6 - gives us some tackling options
Brady 7 - his first bone crunching tackle set the scene
JBG 6 - play better with him in the team
Wood 6 he's never stepped up to the right level in my opinion
Barnes 8 - hard-working will always win you something

Vokes 5 - too late for me
Vydra 5 as above
Lennon 5 powder puff