Alistair Campbell - NewsNight

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Re: Alistair Campbell - NewsNight

Post by thomaspaine » Sat Dec 08, 2018 1:30 pm

boatshed bill wrote:You may be surprised to know that many Labour members wish he wasn't one.
Pure guesswork on your behalf methinks - mischief making at its worst.

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Re: Alistair Campbell - NewsNight

Post by Imploding Turtle » Sat Dec 08, 2018 1:36 pm

Didn't you just suggest that he winds up "rabid Tories"?

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Re: Alistair Campbell - NewsNight

Post by thomaspaine » Sat Dec 08, 2018 1:43 pm

boatshed bill wrote:You may be surprised to know that many Labour members wish he wasn't one.
Pure guesswork on your behalf - mischief making at its worst. Concentrating on rectifying your own failings before criticising others would be a good start.

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Re: Alistair Campbell - NewsNight

Post by Imploding Turtle » Sat Dec 08, 2018 1:51 pm

A somewhat ironic post. ^
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Re: Alistair Campbell - NewsNight

Post by bfcmik » Sat Dec 08, 2018 2:33 pm

RingoMcCartney wrote:WHY WEREN'T THE BRITISH PUBLIC ALLOWED TO INTERRUPT ALISTAIR CAMPBELL, WHEN HE WAS LYING ABOUT WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION , WHICH LEAD TO THE DEATH OF BRITISH SOLDIERS AND 500,000 IRAQI CHILDREN?.......
We found a hidden weapons cache in Northern Ireland earlier this year, despite the province being about 3500 times smaller than Iraq (14,130 sq.km/37,202,572sq.km), the hiders being non government funded and peace having been declared in 1997 it managed to remain hidden for over 20 years. At that rate of discovery Iraqi caches will still be being discovered over 7000 years from now!


500,000 Iraqi children's deaths caused by the UK's invasion? https://www.statista.com/statistics/269 ... ince-2003/ figures show a total of 204,196 documented civilian deaths, of ALL age groups, in Iraq from the US led invasion in 2003 right up to the end of October this year (almost half of which have come about since the UK and US pulled out in 2011). Not sure we can be blamed for the civilian on civilian casualties whilst we were there let alone since we left, and, if you think things would have been better if Saddam had been left in charge, when more people were being 'disappeared' each year at the hands of him, his sons and the security services than in any year since he was deposed!

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Re: Alistair Campbell - NewsNight

Post by 1968claret » Sat Dec 08, 2018 2:35 pm

I like him :)

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Re: Alistair Campbell - NewsNight

Post by LoveCurryPies » Sat Dec 08, 2018 3:10 pm

I think of him as two people, the Burnley supporter and the political man. As the first, he always plugs the Club at any chance so I have no problem with him.

He certainly was an aggressive press adviser to both Blair and Brown. His biography of Blair was somewhat disappointing, probably because he didn’t want to damage Brown.

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Re: Alistair Campbell - NewsNight

Post by RingoMcCartney » Sat Dec 08, 2018 6:55 pm

bfcmik wrote:We found a hidden weapons cache in Northern Ireland earlier this year, despite the province being about 3500 times smaller than Iraq (14,130 sq.km/37,202,572sq.km), the hiders being non government funded and peace having been declared in 1997 it managed to remain hidden for over 20 years. At that rate of discovery Iraqi caches will still be being discovered over 7000 years from now!


500,000 Iraqi children's deaths caused by the UK's invasion? https://www.statista.com/statistics/269 ... ince-2003/ figures show a total of 204,196 documented civilian deaths, of ALL age groups, in Iraq from the US led invasion in 2003 right up to the end of October this year (almost half of which have come about since the UK and US pulled out in 2011). Not sure we can be blamed for the civilian on civilian casualties whilst we were there let alone since we left, and, if you think things would have been better if Saddam had been left in charge, when more people were being 'disappeared' each year at the hands of him, his sons and the security services than in any year since he was deposed!
Was the death of 500,000 Iraqi children a price worth paying?

Madeleine Albright - "we think it was a price worth paying"

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Re: Alistair Campbell - NewsNight

Post by Oshkoshclaret » Sat Dec 08, 2018 7:14 pm

Ringo you are using bad information. The 500,000 number was an estimate of child deaths caused by UN sanctions in Iraq after Desert Storm. It is one of the stats that Blair used to justify going back in to Iraq.

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Re: Alistair Campbell - NewsNight

Post by bfcmik » Sat Dec 08, 2018 7:18 pm

Oshkoshclaret wrote:Ringo you are using bad information. The 500,000 number was an estimate of child deaths caused by UN sanctions in Iraq after Desert Storm. It is one of the stats that Blair used to justify going back in to Iraq.
So more people died from the sanctions (almost total loss of oil revenue=almost total shut down of government income) than the military invasion and take over - who'd have thought it

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Re: Alistair Campbell - NewsNight

Post by evensteadiereddie » Sat Dec 08, 2018 7:23 pm

:lol:

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Re: Alistair Campbell - NewsNight

Post by bluelabrador16 » Sat Dec 08, 2018 9:24 pm

bfcmik
".. Iraqi caches..."
Doh! We knew they didn't have any WMD.Otherwise, why were we happy to have 170,000 troops getting a late winter tan in Kuwait before the invasion.

bfcmik
"..Not sure we can be blamed for the civilian on civilian casualties whilst we were there let alone since we left,.."
Image

Note ..US-led sanctions against Iraq

Squeezed to death
"Half a million children have died in Iraq since UN sanctions were imposed - most enthusiastically by Britain and the US. Three UN officials have resigned in despair. Meanwhile, bombing of Iraq continues almost daily. John Pilger investigates...

https://www.theguardian.com/theguardian ... 7.weekend9" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: Alistair Campbell - NewsNight

Post by IanMcL » Sat Dec 08, 2018 11:01 pm

HollandsPies wrote:Knocked his middle peg clean out a long time ago.

Has Campbell ever had an 'ordinary' job working with 'ordinary' people, or has he been just a professional politician all his life? Just asking as I genuinely don't know.
Campbell has never been a politician! He was/is a journalist, by trade. Used to work for Daily Mirror and rose to become political editor. Landed job as press secretary to Tony Blair.

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Re: Alistair Campbell - NewsNight

Post by SussexDon1inIreland » Sat Dec 08, 2018 11:04 pm

AC is one of the biggest odious people I have ever had to listen to - why does the media give him so much air time. He is a knob of the highest order

Such a pity he supports Burnley

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Re: Alistair Campbell - NewsNight

Post by bodge » Sat Dec 08, 2018 11:09 pm

I long for the day when this board reverts back to a football messageboard.

He's a claret, we've won, he's happy, i'm happy.

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Re: Alistair Campbell - NewsNight

Post by Wokingclaret » Sat Dec 08, 2018 11:14 pm

Well, he may be happy on Tuesday night (MAY) :D

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