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Would any Bunrley Players From

Postby Untinted Glasses » Sun Dec 09, 2018 9:57 am

Would any Burnley Players From 1984-2000 be good enough to play for this Burnley now ?

Would Ian Britton have been good enough ?

Do you think Steve Davis would have got in ?

I think for sure David Eyres would be an improvement.

Was Billy Hamilton better than Chris Wood ? He was just before my watching days

Was Leighton James (the bully) overrated ?
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Re: Would any Bunrley Players From

Postby cricketfieldclarets » Sun Dec 09, 2018 10:03 am

Glen Little would walk into this team imo.

I know he never really got the chance at this level and did lack pace. But he showed in an average burnley team against top sides how good he was. He was our le tissier. He absolutely ripped spurs apart that night.

In the first season after promotion under Stan he was incredible. Although it helped us by not doing, its a travesty he never signed for a top side round that time.

Aside from him our best players either werent good enough or had already been there. Cook, Ball, Blake.

Payton knew where the net is. And you cant coach that instinct. So who knows?

Papadopoulos went on to have a good career. Albeit not with us.
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Re: Would any Bunrley Players From

Postby Targetman » Sun Dec 09, 2018 10:09 am

Untinted Glasses wrote:Would any Burnley Players From 1984-2000 be good enough to play for this Burnley now ?

Would Ian Britton have been good enough ?

Do you think Steve Davis would have got in ?

I think for sure David Eyres would be an improvement.

Was Billy Hamilton better than Chris Wood ? He was just before my watching days

Was Leighton James (the bully) overrated ?


Why was Leighton James a bully?

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Re: Would any Bunrley Players From

Postby dushanbe » Sun Dec 09, 2018 10:12 am

I loved watching David Eyres as much as the next person but to say he’d improve our current team is mental. He had a long career in the lower reaches of the football league for a reason.

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Re: Would any Bunrley Players From

Postby Top Claret » Sun Dec 09, 2018 10:15 am

Glen Little would be nowhere near this team. He had no pace and was lazy. Little would have been well out of his depth at this level

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Re: Would any Bunrley Players From

Postby Lord Beamish » Sun Dec 09, 2018 10:16 am

Glen Little, and that’s about it. A shout out for an in his prime Vince Overson. I think Dyche might’ve got him and England Cap.

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Re: Would any Bunrley Players From

Postby tim_noone » Sun Dec 09, 2018 10:24 am

Targetman wrote:Why was Leighton James a bully?

A bit loud.... Great player for Burnley to say he was a skinny kid with glasses and not looking the part as a footballer. One of the best But way before 84

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Re: Would any Bunrley Players From

Postby Ptangyangkipperbang » Sun Dec 09, 2018 10:26 am

Mike Phelan

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Re: Would any Bunrley Players From

Postby djt2006 » Sun Dec 09, 2018 10:29 am

dushanbe wrote:I loved watching David Eyres as much as the next person but to say he’d improve our current team is mental. He had a long career in the lower reaches of the football league for a reason.


I am sure David Eyres was being watched by some of the top clubs at the time until they found out how old he was.

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Re: Would any Bunrley Players From

Postby Untinted Glasses » Sun Dec 09, 2018 10:31 am

tim_noone wrote:A bit loud.... Great player for Burnley to say he was a skinny kid with glasses and not looking the part as a footballer. One of the best But way before 84


1986-1989 is the period I watched him play, I guess he was way past his best?

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Re: Would any Bunrley Players From

Postby HiroshimaClaret » Sun Dec 09, 2018 10:36 am

Wowsers...a huge headache that one!!!!!

1984???????

Steve Davis MK II would be the Tarkowski
Adrian Randall the working class man`s Defour ;)
Glen Little
...and of course John Deary!!!!

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Re: Would any Bunrley Players From

Postby tim_noone » Sun Dec 09, 2018 10:36 am

Untinted Glasses wrote:1986-1989 is the period I watched him play, I guess he was way past his best?

A brilliant player could turn on a sixpence as the saying went and leave his man chasing his shadow. He was a bit gobbI off the pitch though.

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Re: Would any Bunrley Players From

Postby tim_noone » Sun Dec 09, 2018 10:43 am

HiroshimaClaret wrote:Wowsers...a huge headache that one!!!!!

1984???????

Steve Davis MK II would be the Tarkowski
Adrian Randall the working class man`s Defour ;)
Glen Little
...and of course John Deary!!!!

Adrian Randall stood out from the pack. I wonder if he looks back with regret.he really was quality.
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Re: Would any Bunrley Players From

Postby Untinted Glasses » Sun Dec 09, 2018 10:43 am

You think John Francis would be anywhere near?

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Re: Would any BURNLEY Players From

Postby WestMidsClaret » Sun Dec 09, 2018 10:48 am

I think you need some new glasses or a bigger keyboard :)
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Re: Would any Bunrley Players From

Postby piston broke » Sun Dec 09, 2018 10:48 am

With Trevor Steven we’d be in Europe every year and Mike Phelan could do the grafting for him.

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Re: Would any Bunrley Players From

Postby HiroshimaClaret » Sun Dec 09, 2018 10:50 am

Top Claret wrote:Glen Little would be nowhere near this team. He had no pace and was lazy. Little would have been well out of his depth at this level


Into the shame corner for you!!!!!!!! :o
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Re: Would any Bunrley Players From

Postby HiroshimaClaret » Sun Dec 09, 2018 10:55 am

djt2006 wrote:I am sure David Eyres was being watched by some of the top clubs at the time until they found out how old he was.


I can remember him taking a 50-yd, Tarkowski esque long raking diagonal ball down so beautifully and in stride in front of the Bob Lord Stand...a thing of beauty!

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Re: Would any Bunrley Players From

Postby Spijed » Sun Dec 09, 2018 11:04 am

Top Claret wrote:Glen Little would be nowhere near this team. He had no pace and was lazy. Little would have been well out of his depth at this level


Ability can easily override lack of pace and being lazy

Ibrahimović was bone idle at times yet he had the ability which meant it didn't matter.

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Re: Would any Bunrley Players From

Postby HiroshimaClaret » Sun Dec 09, 2018 11:10 am

I am absolutely certain that these modern day pampered `athletes` would not have got a look in back in the days of sodden pitches kicking a 5kg football around so saying player from the past could not muster it in the modern day, for this post, seems a tad churlish. You would not have seen the majority of Arsenal`s team anywhere a pitch back in the 1950s and 1960s (I`m guessing).

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Re: Would any Bunrley Players From

Postby Vintage Claret » Sun Dec 09, 2018 11:13 am

In his prime, Ian Wright
Glen Little
Andy Payton

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Re: Would any Bunrley Players From

Postby Untinted Glasses » Sun Dec 09, 2018 11:15 am

How about Ted Mcminn. Would he have been good enough

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Re: Would any Bunrley Players From

Postby CharlieinNewMexico » Sun Dec 09, 2018 11:49 pm

John Francis would give us the pace up top we lack.

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Re: Would any Bunrley Players From

Postby Im_not_Robbie_Blake » Mon Dec 10, 2018 8:35 am

"Was Billy Hamilton better than Chris Wood?"


Yes, yes, yes, YES!!!!
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Re: Would any Bunrley Players From

Postby Chester Perry » Mon Dec 10, 2018 9:40 am

Trevor Steven, Mike Phelan, Vince Overson - all of whom had good careers in the top flight at Everton, Norwich& Man Utd, Forrest respectively

Payton and Little are slight possibles on a descending scale of likelihood based on work rate, but there is no denying their substantial talents


I still lament the broken leg of Mark Monnington - as a teenager he looked like he was going to go all the way, never got back to that level after it
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Re: Would any Bunrley Players From

Postby Chester Perry » Mon Dec 10, 2018 9:42 am

Im_not_Robbie_Blake wrote:"Was Billy Hamilton better than Chris Wood?"


Yes, yes, yes, YES!!!!


but only at about a third of the pace - I loved Billy Hamilton though

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Re: Would any Bunrley Players From

Postby Chobulous » Mon Dec 10, 2018 10:02 am

They would all be too old.
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Re: Would any Bunrley Players From

Postby Lancasterclaret » Mon Dec 10, 2018 10:03 am

Honestly? (bar the ones who actually made the step up with other clubs obviously)

No

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Re: Would any Bunrley Players From

Postby andyh » Mon Dec 10, 2018 10:42 am

Chester Perry wrote:Trevor Steven, Mike Phelan, Vince Overson - all of whom had good careers in the top flight at Everton, Norwich& Man Utd, Forrest respectively

Payton and Little are slight possibles on a descending scale of likelihood based on work rate, but there is no denying their substantial talents


I still lament the broken leg of Mark Monnington - as a teenager he looked like he was going to go all the way, never got back to that level after it

I think I slept through Overson at Forrest. Laws yes Overson no.
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Re: Would any Bunrley Players From

Postby Caballo » Mon Dec 10, 2018 11:06 am

No chance, it's all about levels and between 84 and 2000 we were nowhere near this one.

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Re: Would any Bunrley Players From

Postby Sleeping Cat » Mon Dec 10, 2018 1:10 pm

Glenn & Steve Davies.

Glenn showed he could perform at top level with Reading & Portsmouth including a cracking game in Europe when he was at the end of his career. A tricky player like glenn has a place in a squad like ours today.

Steve Davies is the most composed CB I've seen play for Burnley & I rate him higher than many of the CB we have had represent us at this level, so I would say he would be good enough to be involved in this team now.
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Re: Would any Bunrley Players From

Postby JimMcDonald » Mon Dec 10, 2018 6:16 pm

Alan Mahon easily walk into this team.

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Re: Would any Bunrley Players From

Postby jrgbfc » Mon Dec 10, 2018 6:56 pm

Glen Little ability wise would be 100% good enough to get in our current team but he wouldn't work hard enough for Dyche. He certainly wasn't out of his depth when playing for Reading in the top flight.

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Re: Would any Bunrley Players From

Postby CharlieinNewMexico » Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:57 am

JimMcDonald wrote:Alan Mahon easily walk into this team.


Thanks Alan!
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Re: Would any Bunrley Players From

Postby piston broke » Tue Dec 11, 2018 9:14 am

Sorry if already mentioned but saw Laws name above which triggered Lee Dixon. Both of them were good enough.

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Re: Would any Bunrley Players From

Postby Rowls » Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:49 am

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Glen Little would walk into this team imo..


Yes but he’d have you believe he was running

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Re: Would any Bunrley Players From

Postby Untinted Glasses » Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:12 pm

I was only a wee kid but Chris Pearce would surely be good enough for the squad and Marlon Beresford?

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Re: Would any Bunrley Players From

Postby boatshed bill » Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:18 pm

Possibly Glen Little.
Trevor Steven? Didn't he leave before 1984? But I think he would have been good enough,

that's about it.

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Re: Would any Bunrley Players From

Postby JTClaret » Wed Dec 12, 2018 1:41 pm

I'd have to say Little, however...
How good would JBG look in that 99/00 team if you were to switch?

In all honesty, I think all of our current players would look like world beaters. Our 3 keepers are England internationals ffs :lol: I loved Beresford as much as the next Burnley fan, but he was Middlesborough's 2nd/3rd choice for years, and hardly banging down the door so he could get a place in the England squad.

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Re: Would any Bunrley Players From

Postby Spijed » Wed Dec 12, 2018 1:58 pm

Untinted Glasses wrote:I was only a wee kid but Chris Pearce would surely be good enough for the squad and Marlon Beresford?


Chris Pearce - really?

A lower league keeper for a reason.

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Re: Would any Bunrley Players From

Postby Clarets4me » Wed Dec 12, 2018 2:29 pm

As mentioned, a lot of those players were great at lower League level but would have struggled in the top flight ... Steve Davis was great but lacked a yard or two of pace, Super John had pace, but close control was not his forte ... others were either past their best, lacked consistancy or occasionally application.

I remember Ted McMinn, well past his best when he came to us, ripping a young Swansea full back ( U21 International ) to pieces in the first half to the extent that he didn't reappear for the 2nd half ....

Obviously, the one exception to this was John Deary, who we've never really replaced properly, and who'd have easily made the Brazilian team of 1970 !! :D :D :D UTC !!

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Re: Would any Bunrley Players From

Postby Bosscat » Wed Dec 12, 2018 2:38 pm

HiroshimaClaret wrote:Wowsers...a huge headache that one!!!!!

1984???????

Steve Davis MK II would be the Tarkowski
Adrian Randall the working class man`s Defour ;)
Glen Little
...and of course John Deary!!!!

Adrian Randall ....
My m8 Mike was convinced on a rather boozy weekend (overnighter in Taunton and went down to Exeter St Davids by train) he saw Ady score twice against Exeter (we lost 4-1 :lol: :lol: ) the eleventeen pints we drunk possibly had something to do with that hahaha.

Mikes Dad always had a thing against John (Weary) Deary.
We were at Hull (I think it was over Christmas one year in the mid 90's) and John scored a screamer of a 30 yarder and even then all we got was a Harrumph ......

Int Footy wonderful..

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Re: Would any Bunrley Players From

Postby ClaretTony » Thu Dec 13, 2018 11:48 am

Chester Perry wrote:Trevor Steven, Mike Phelan, Vince Overson - all of whom had good careers in the top flight at Everton, Norwich& Man Utd, Forrest respectively


Vince played for Birmingham and Stoke, not Forest

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Re: Would any Bunrley Players From

Postby ClaretTony » Thu Dec 13, 2018 11:50 am

Untinted Glasses wrote:Would any Burnley Players From 1984-2000 be good enough to play for this Burnley now ?

Would Ian Britton have been good enough ?

Do you think Steve Davis would have got in ?

I think for sure David Eyres would be an improvement.

Was Billy Hamilton better than Chris Wood ? He was just before my watching days

Was Leighton James (the bully) overrated ?


Billy Hamilton did play in the top flight, but he was a striker who did all his damage at home, rarely played well away in the league. That night he scored twice at Tottenham equaled his away goal tally for two full seasons in the league.

Leighton James in his first spell at Burnley was good enough, not after that, and the likes of Davis and Eyres, no matter how well they did for us, played in Burnley teams way below the level we play now.
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Re: Would any Bunrley Players From

Postby Quickenthetempo » Thu Dec 13, 2018 12:12 pm

Glen Little did play higher than we are now for Pompey and played against AC Milan when perhaps past his best.

He wouldn't be in a Dyche side though, maybe Eddie Howe or similar would pick him.

Man City bid 5m for him when we were both at the top of the championship which was quite a lot of money then.

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Re: Would any Bunrley Players From

Postby Sausage » Thu Dec 13, 2018 12:18 pm

Re: Adrian Randall

I read an interview with Harry Redknapp a few years ago where he stated that Randall was the biggest wasted talent he'd seen in his career. All of the skill, none of the application. He showed glimpses of his talent when playing for Burnley but, in my opinion, didn't do it often enough.

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Re: Would any Bunrley Players From

Postby Adrianthepostman » Fri Dec 14, 2018 1:56 pm

Adrian Randall

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Re: Would any Bunrley Players From

Postby Fretters » Fri Dec 14, 2018 3:03 pm

Sausage wrote:Re: Adrian Randall

I read an interview with Harry Redknapp a few years ago where he stated that Randall was the biggest wasted talent he'd seen in his career. All of the skill, none of the application. He showed glimpses of his talent when playing for Burnley but, in my opinion, didn't do it often enough.


What about a wasted talent?
“Adrian Randall at Bournemouth. He was a genius. Six foot tall, he used to glide over the pitch, juggling the ball on his foot. He could do it all. We used to play him against Tony Pulis in training and he’d tie him in knots, but he never really made it. He was so laid-back in his attitude. You just wanted to shake him, because this was a talent like I’d never seen.”

https://talksport.com/football/292719/i ... 703154429/

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Re: Would any Bunrley Players From

Postby ZizkovClaret » Fri Dec 14, 2018 3:09 pm

I'd ague for Gareth Taylor if we put good crosses in. His header success rate was unreal

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Re: Would any Bunrley Players From

Postby claretabroad » Fri Dec 14, 2018 3:14 pm

+1 for Glenn.

Adrian Randall was an enigma. He was capable of some moments of unbelievable skill and his first touch always put him in space but he never managed to apply his talents consistently on the field. Frustration personified.

In addition: Inchy. He did have an established top flight career and when he played for us in the lower divisions it was obvious he was a class above those around him.


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