Raheem Sterling racially abused by Chelsea fans

[tiger76]

Crazy in 2018 people behave in such an ignorant manner Raheem is totally correct to call them out on this https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/46498849 you would have hoped by now this behaviour would be condemned to history.

[jrgbfc]

Fair play to him for speaking out about his treatment by some of the press. The way some of our gutter press have treated him is disgusting, but I suppose with the likes of the Sun and Daily Mail not really surprising unfortunately.

[tiger76]

Not confined just to Chelsea fans https://uk.yahoo.com/sports/news/spurs- ... 39245.html

FFS i thought this stuff belonged to the history books,but it's slowly creeping back into the game.

[ClaretMoffitt]

Not confined just to Chelsea fans https://uk.yahoo.com/sports/news/spurs- ... 39245.html

FFS i thought this stuff belonged to the history books,but it's slowly creeping back into the game.

Let's ignore the fact police said they accepted the account there was no racial intent though because we can use it to support our argument that Britain is full of nazis. Guy was almost certainly just eating it and threw it on without thinking but of course in these turbulent times you can never pass up a good opportunity to convict someone of racism

[Lancasterclaret]

Its not as isolated incident though with Chelsea fans.

They had a Waffen-SS Totenkopf unit badge on one of their flags. Now you might think thats just low level anti-semitism, but then you look a bit deeper into it.

You see, the Waffen-SS had more than one unit, but what was special about Totenkopf is that it was originally made up of concentration camp guards who were transferred to the Waffen-SS. So basically even more anti-semitic. The worst of the worst if you will.

Could be a coincidence that that is the unit badge they went for, but it could also them trying to be a bit too clever for their own good

Too dangerous to assume that this is just bantz or whatever defence the 57 year old man (the demographic I have to admit I thought he'd be) came out with.

[martin_p]

Let's ignore the fact police said they accepted the account there was no racial intent though because we can use it to support our argument that Britain is full of nazis. Guy was almost certainly just eating it and threw it on without thinking but of course in these turbulent times you can never pass up a good opportunity to convict someone of racism

Ah, the old ‘just happened to take a banana to the match as a snack and had just finished eating it when an opposition black player scored and the skin was in my hand and I just instinctively threw it at him’.

There but for the grace of god.......

[SammyBoy]

Let's ignore the fact police said they accepted the account there was no racial intent though because we can use it to support our argument that Britain is full of nazis. Guy was almost certainly just eating it and threw it on without thinking but of course in these turbulent times you can never pass up a good opportunity to convict someone of racism

What're the odds, I've literally never seen anyone eat a banana on a football match.

[Grumps]

What're the odds, I've literally never seen anyone eat a banana on a football match.

Guy in front of me has one every half time...

[claretonthecoast1882]

Ah, the old ‘just happened to take a banana to the match as a snack and had just finished eating it when an opposition black player scored and the skin was in my hand and I just instinctively threw it at him’.

There but for the grace of god.......

Agreed, it is far more likely he thought I will take this banana with me, eat it then carry the skin in my pocket during the day, then if a black opposition player scores in front of me I can take it out my pocket and throw it at him and hopefully not be caught on camera.

[Steve-Harpers-perm]

Let's ignore the fact police said they accepted the account there was no racial intent though because we can use it to support our argument that Britain is full of nazis. Guy was almost certainly just eating it and threw it on without thinking but of course in these turbulent times you can never pass up a good opportunity to convict someone of racism

How to really embarrass yourself.

[Chobulous]

Let's ignore the fact police said they accepted the account there was no racial intent though because we can use it to support our argument that Britain is full of nazis. Guy was almost certainly just eating it and threw it on without thinking but of course in these turbulent times you can never pass up a good opportunity to convict someone of racism

Why would you think it acceptable for a fan to throw anything onto the pitch at any time for any reason?

[Ashingtonclaret46]

Why would you think it acceptable for a fan to throw anything onto the pitch at any time for any reason?

This was the question my wife asked me last night when she saw it on the news. She has no interest in football whatsoever, apart from having suffered for over 50 years in a male dominated household, however, she just couldn't see any justification at all.

[martin_p]

Agreed, it is far more likely he thought I will take this banana with me, eat it then carry the skin in my pocket during the day, then if a black opposition player scores in front of me I can take it out my pocket and throw it at him and hopefully not be caught on camera.

Correct, that is much more likely. If his coping mechanism for an opposition player scoring is throwing something at him he’s probably not over blessed with brains, so probably won’t have considered he could be caught.

[Falcon]

It's always interesting to me that some posters' default response to someone being allegedly racially abused is to make excuses for the abuser without knowing any of the facts.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

Guy in front of me has one every half time...

You stand behind Moffitt?

[nil_desperandum]

Guy in front of me has one every half time...

Does he accidentally throw it on the pitch if the opposition happen to score in the second half? or does he only accidentally do it if the player happens to be from a specific ethnic background?
Not seen anything like this on the pitch, so I assume he just does the normal thing and puts his rubbish in the bin after the match.

[Spijed]

Let's ignore the fact police said they accepted the account there was no racial intent though because we can use it to support our argument that Britain is full of nazis. Guy was almost certainly just eating it and threw it on without thinking but of course in these turbulent times you can never pass up a good opportunity to convict someone of racism

So you think all those ex players such as John Barnes, Viv Anderson etc. are just lying when they say black players are still subjected to racial abuse?

Was Raheem Sterling lying as well, with regards to the recent incident at Chelsea?

[Pearcey]

The spurs fan was a Greek Cypriot man who lives in Norwich. He’s never been in trouble with the police before and stated in the local press that he threw it without thinking. The police believe him and after reading the report, so do I.
Unfortunately there are an awful amount of racist fans in football and some of the stuff I’ve heard over the years is truly vile. Including our own fans.

[Burnley Ace]

Is he still getting a free pass or can he get “abused” for his penalty? Just asking for a friend

[Grumps]

You stand behind Moffitt?

No, just a normal supporter who likes a banana at half time, no agenda, just facts

[Grumps]

Does he accidentally throw it on the pitch if the opposition happen to score in the second half? or does he only accidentally do it if the player happens to be from a specific ethnic background?
Not seen anything like this on the pitch, so I assume he just does the normal thing and puts his rubbish in the bin after the match.

Just answering the question without any bias, unlike you

[martin_p]

No, just a normal supporter who likes a banana at half time, no agenda, just facts

This guy was supposedly eating a banana during the match, which seems a little unlikely.

[Grumps]

The spurs fan was a Greek Cypriot man who lives in Norwich. He’s never been in trouble with the police before and stated in the local press that he threw it without thinking. The police believe him and after reading the report, so do I.
Unfortunately there are an awful amount of racist fans in football and some of the stuff I’ve heard over the years is truly vile. Including our own fans.

Doubt some on here will accept that, despite the facts

[Grumps]

This guy was supposedly eating a banana during the match, which seems a little unlikely.

Why?

[Reckoner]

Unfortunately I think the Brexit vote (and Trump's election) has encouraged more people with racist views to express them, whereas in the past their bigotry may have been more suppressed. Not saying that applies to this Spurs fan who may be truthful in his explanation, but its no coincidence you are hearing about more of these incidents.

[Grumps]

Unfortunately I think the Brexit vote (and Trump's election) has encouraged more people with racist views to express them, whereas in the past their bigotry may have been more suppressed. Not saying that applies to this Spurs fan who may be truthful in his explanation, but its no coincidence you are hearing about more of these incidents.

Trumps election making people racist in Britain? Big leap that one.

[Reckoner]

The increase in racist noise isn't confined to the UK.

[Grumps]

The increase in racist noise isn't confined to the UK.

Iam sure it isn't, but to blame trump for racism in football is somewhat far fetched

[Reckoner]

I think the Brexit vote (and Trump's election) has encouraged more people with racist views to express them. I do not think this is limited to the UK and I also think that racism is not confined to football supporters. Hope that helps.

[nil_desperandum]

Just answering the question without any bias, unlike you

How did my post display any bias? I said that I assumed he took his litter home and didn't throw it on the pitch, - which I'm sure you agree is normal behaviour for a mature adult.
For clarity - referring to the banana eating person sat in front of you, I wrote:

"Not seen anything like this on the pitch, so I assume he just does the normal thing and puts his rubbish in the bin after the match."

Are you saying that I'm wrong?

[Grumps]

I think the Brexit vote (and Trump's election) has encouraged more people with racist views to express them. I do not think this is limited to the UK and I also think that racism is not confined to football supporters. Hope that helps.

Iam sure racism was a bigger thing in the 80s and 90s, long before trump and brexit. Its possibly at its lowest point in the UK for many years. Hope that helps.

[Grumps]

How did my post display any bias? I said that I assumed he took his litter home and didn't throw it on the pitch, - which I'm sure you agree is normal behaviour for a mature adult.
For clarity - referring to the banana eating person sat in front of you, I wrote:

Are you saying that I'm wrong?

The question was suggesting nobody ate a banana at a football match, I was pointing out that they do, nothing more.

[Reckoner]

It was definitely more prominent then I agree, and I don't think Brexit and Trump have created more racists per se. Its just given the existing racists a validation so they are more vocal now than they were a couple of years ago. Its very sad.

[nil_desperandum]

The question was suggesting nobody ate a banana at a football match, I was pointing out that they do, nothing more.

No. You replied to my post and accused me of some sort of bias, which I don't understand.
I didn't state or imply that eating bananas at a football match was an abnormal thing to do. It's perfectly acceptable.
It's throwing them (or their skins) on the pitch that's odd and isn't acceptable, - and in fact it's an offence, even if there's no one on the pitch at the time.

[Grumps]

No. You replied to my post and accused me of some sort of bias, which I don't understand.
I didn't state or imply that eating bananas at a football match was an abnormal thing to do. It's perfectly acceptable.
It's throwing them (or their skins) on the pitch that's odd and isn't acceptable, - and in fact it's an offence, even if there's no one on the pitch at the time.

Definitely an offence to throw them, agreed

[Guich]

Is he still getting a free pass or can he get “abused” for his penalty? Just asking for a friend

I thought that was weird too.

Possibly the most stupid way to take a penalty, whether it goes on or not, if you don't want people to think you're a nob.

[Grumps]

Definitely a nob

[thatdberight]

It's always interesting to me that some posters' default response to someone being allegedly racially abused is to make excuses for the abuser without knowing any of the facts.

Except that he did give a fact. That the police have accepted that it wasn't racially motivated. If you can disprove that or sensibly argue against it, you should do so. But your response does add to a feeling that making an accusation of racial abuse is in itself a conviction of the accused in some people's minds; free of the need for process or facts.

[ClaretMoffitt]

Except that he did give a fact. That the police have accepted that it wasn't racially motivated. If you can disprove that or sensibly argue against it, you should do so. But your response does add to a feeling that making an accusation of racial abuse is in itself a conviction of the accused in some people's minds; free of the need for process or facts.

Beat me to it.

Like I say, people want to see racism.

Racism justifies the existence of entire industries, organisations and even political parties. The day it dies is the day they die, they will hunt it until the can find it no more and at that point, they will redefine what it is to be racist and hunt it all over again.

[martin_p]

Beat me to it.

Like I say, people want to see racism.

Racism justifies the existence of entire industries, organisations and even political parties. The day it dies is the day they die, they will hunt it until the can find it no more and at that point, they will redefine what it is to be racist and hunt it all over again.

This handily ignores the fact that the magistrate found that it was a ‘targeted gesture’ with a ‘racial element’.

[tim_noone]

The question was suggesting nobody ate a banana at a football match, I was pointing out that they do, nothing more.

This could spell the end of the inflatable banana popular with football fans....

[tiger76]

PC plod interviewing someone in relation to this incident https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/46647187