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Strasbourg shooting

Postby tiger76 » Tue Dec 11, 2018 9:35 pm

Sadly this doesn't come as a shock anymore https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-46530265 :(

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Re: Strasbourg shooting

Postby Imploding Turtle » Tue Dec 11, 2018 9:57 pm

It's a shock in Europe, not so much elsewhere.

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Re: Strasbourg shooting

Postby morpheus2 » Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:22 pm

Mr Turtle.

I wasn't shocked in the least.

I was just saying to one of my co-workers that the Christmas markets are in full swing all over Europe, expect some terrorist attacks.

Which sand dune have you had your head buried in to be shocked by such activity in Europe???
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Re: Strasbourg shooting

Postby Imploding Turtle » Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:50 pm

Mass shootings in Europe are pretty rare compared to the place where we usually hear of them, so yes it is pretty shocking when it happens. That doesn't mean it's shocking that it happens at all, they're inevitable given the nature of time and probability.

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Re: Strasbourg shooting

Postby cricketfieldclarets » Tue Dec 11, 2018 11:30 pm

Rare? Perhaps. Shocking? Absolutely not. Just not the usual weapon of choice this side of the pond...

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Re: Strasbourg shooting

Postby Imploding Turtle » Wed Dec 12, 2018 4:29 am

What's the weapon of choice for mass shooters over here then?

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Re: Strasbourg shooting

Postby Damo » Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:02 am

The amount of comments on this thread shows how normal these events have become

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Re: Strasbourg shooting

Postby claretonthecoast1882 » Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:21 am

Damo wrote:The amount of comments on this thread shows how normal these events have become



It’s also at least 30 posts down due to not being in America and spijed probably won’t bring his whataboutery to this as he only cares when it’s caused by the nra. Apparently if these guns are illegal it wouldn’t happen, who knew they were allowed in Strasbourg.

Sadly more people have lost their lives due to a coward.

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Re: Strasbourg shooting

Postby Imploding Turtle » Wed Dec 12, 2018 7:17 am

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:It’s also at least 30 posts down due to not being in America and spijed probably won’t bring his whataboutery to this as he only cares when it’s caused by the nra. Apparently if these guns are illegal it wouldn’t happen, who knew they were allowed in Strasbourg.

Sadly more people have lost their lives due to a coward.


No one said that this kind of thing wouldn't happen if guns were illegal. You made that up.

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Re: Strasbourg shooting

Postby Imploding Turtle » Wed Dec 12, 2018 7:20 am

According to the news the guy escaped arrest earlier yesterday before carrying out his attack last night.

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Re: Strasbourg shooting

Postby SmudgetheClaret » Wed Dec 12, 2018 8:12 am

Usually these shootings happen when a country wants to deflect the media away from other matters,now has there been anything going on in France mmmm let me think ??

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Re: Strasbourg shooting

Postby bfcjg » Wed Dec 12, 2018 8:18 am

All the gunman has to do is lose his gun,get to a channel port, find a people smuggler get to the UK and Corbyn and his disciples will welcome them with open arms as desperate people looking for a better life, improve our culture etc. Why even JK Rowling might put him up in one of her twenty bedtlrooms.
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Re: Strasbourg shooting

Postby Imploding Turtle » Wed Dec 12, 2018 8:31 am

SmudgetheClaret wrote:Usually these shootings happen when a country wants to deflect the media away from other matters,now has there been anything going on in France mmmm let me think ??


So you're saying it's a false flag attack? Got a source?

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Re: Strasbourg shooting

Postby Imploding Turtle » Wed Dec 12, 2018 8:32 am

And some people wonder why they and their opinions aren't taken seriously.

bfcjg wrote:All the gunman has to do is lose his gun,get to a channel port, find a people smuggler get to the UK and Corbyn and his disciples will welcome them with open arms as desperate people looking for a better life, improve our culture etc. Why even JK Rowling might put him up in one of her twenty bedtlrooms.

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Re: Strasbourg shooting

Postby Buxtonclaret » Wed Dec 12, 2018 8:34 am

SmudgetheClaret wrote:Usually these shootings happen when a country wants to deflect the media away from other matters,now has there been anything going on in France mmmm let me think ??


What a weird and not-so-wonderful post.

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Re: Strasbourg shooting

Postby SmudgetheClaret » Wed Dec 12, 2018 8:36 am

Imploding Turtle wrote:So you're saying it's a false flag attack? Got a source?


That's got to be the most stupid question every :lol: :lol: as if I would have a source ? opinions don't need a source you should know that with the drivel you pump out on a gargantuan rate..
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Re: Strasbourg shooting

Postby SmudgetheClaret » Wed Dec 12, 2018 8:38 am

Buxtonclaret wrote:What a weird and not-so-wonderful post.


Well it's a wonderful time of year..and a tad weird :D

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Re: Strasbourg shooting

Postby bfcjg » Wed Dec 12, 2018 8:38 am

Imploding Turtle wrote:And some people wonder why they and their opinions aren't taken seriously.

Seriously enough for you to quote it.

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Re: Strasbourg shooting

Postby Svenster » Wed Dec 12, 2018 8:41 am

BBC reporting it's a local man from Strasbourg. :roll:

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Re: Strasbourg shooting

Postby Imploding Turtle » Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:04 am

bfcjg wrote:Seriously enough for you to quote it.


I'd quote a mental patient too if it got across the point of how mental they are.

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Re: Strasbourg shooting

Postby Lord Rothbury » Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:12 am

Svenster wrote:BBC reporting it's a local man from Strasbourg. :roll:

Named as Cherif C a known radicalised locally born person.Think that tells us all we need to know. Source BBC news.

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Re: Strasbourg shooting

Postby Imploding Turtle » Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:15 am

Lord Rothbury wrote:Named as Cherif C a known radicalised locally born person.Think that tells us all we need to know. Source BBC news.


That he's a ****?

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Re: Strasbourg shooting

Postby Stayingup » Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:59 am

Imploding Turtle wrote:And some people wonder why they and their opinions aren't taken seriously.


That's just what a some think about you and your opinions.

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Re: Strasbourg shooting

Postby Stayingup » Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:59 am

Imploding Turtle wrote:That he's a ****?


Yes at least you've got something right

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Re: Strasbourg shooting

Postby cricketfieldclarets » Wed Dec 12, 2018 10:06 am

Imploding Turtle wrote:What's the weapon of choice for mass shooters over here then?

I bet you argue with the mirror. Then again...

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Re: Strasbourg shooting

Postby Falcon » Wed Dec 12, 2018 10:13 am

To be fair he's the only left wing troll on here, and has about 10 right wing trolls to argue with at any given time.

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Re: Strasbourg shooting

Postby Imploding Turtle » Wed Dec 12, 2018 10:18 am

Falcon wrote:To be fair he's the only left wing troll on here, and has about 10 right wing trolls to argue with at any given time.


In what way am I a "left-wing troll"? Is it because my views are left-wingy and sometimes i'm not entirely serious with my posts? Or do you think my left-wing views are fake in an attempt to troll? If the latter then can you provide an example of one of my "fake" opinions?

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Re: Strasbourg shooting

Postby bfcjg » Wed Dec 12, 2018 11:29 am

Imploding Turtle wrote:In what way am I a "left-wing troll"? Is it because my views are left-wingy and sometimes i'm not entirely serious with my posts? Or do you think my left-wing views are fake in an attempt to troll? If the latter then can you provide an example of one of my "fake" opinions?

I don't agree in the main with IT but at least he is consistent with his opinions and I wouldn't call him/her a troll.

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Re: Strasbourg shooting

Postby bluelabrador16 » Wed Dec 12, 2018 11:48 am

"quelle surprise"

Just in time to distract attention from protests against Macron. The suspected lone gunman evaded police and security forces after TWO shootouts before escaping in a TAXI!!

MacCruiskeen

"Possibly OT, possibly related, possibly a reprise of the Berlin Christmas Market Attack of 2014***:....

*cough* La bonne vieille question de savoir à qui profite le crime...

The shooting happened close to a Christmas market in one of the central squares, Place Kléber.

Image

Police said the suspect was already known to the security services as a possible terrorist threat.

Déjà-vu?

"Meretricious." "And a Happy New Year."

JackRiddler...Earlier today I was thinking this was going to happen. ...Just saying.

http://rigorousintuition.ca/board2/view ... 0&start=15


*** The Amri Affair is the ongoing subject of a commission of inquiry (Untersuchungsausschuss) launched in July of this year.

Defective investigation and obstruction of justice

On 17 May 2017 the Interior Ministry of Berlin stated that already in November 2016 intelligence was given that Anis Amri was involved in criminal offenses concerning drug trafficking. On this basis authorities would have been able to apprehend Amri already at the time, however they did not.An investigation was launched trying to find out to what extent these informations were withheld by the State Criminal Police Office of Berlin after the attack happened.[110] Several days later, while the investigation for obstruction of justice was still going on, a speaker of the Interior Ministry said that manipulations of the file of Amri have been carried out by officers of the criminal investigation department after the attack.[111] On 22 May 2017 a commission of inquiry was initiated starting in July. [b]Meanwhile, a special prosecuter was appointed to the case.[112] In addition to the ongoing investigation concerning manipulations of the file and withholding of information, national TV reported on 1 June, that officers who were ordered by an investigating judge in Berlin to observe Amri until October 2016 for criminal offenses and possible terrorist links did not do so and instead included untrue records regarding observating actions in his file.[113]

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Re: Strasbourg shooting

Postby GodIsADeeJay81 » Wed Dec 12, 2018 1:21 pm

Damo wrote:The amount of comments on this thread shows how normal these events have become


I don't think you're allowed to suggest these events are becoming the norm.
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Re: Strasbourg shooting

Postby Imploding Turtle » Wed Dec 12, 2018 1:49 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:I don't think you're allowed to suggest these events are becoming the norm.


Yeah. Because if you say that then you'll get arrested and thrown in jail. Just like if you say you're English.
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Re: Strasbourg shooting

Postby Lord Beamish » Wed Dec 12, 2018 1:55 pm

I have to say that I hope these things aren’t becoming ‘the norm’. I think this is one of those fortuitous occasions where my desire and reality intersect.
The feel of this is far different to the near ubiquitous nature of Mass Shootings in the United States. These still illicit shock and anger in the populace, rather than resignation and recriminations.

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Re: Strasbourg shooting

Postby Imploding Turtle » Wed Dec 12, 2018 2:00 pm

Lord Beamish wrote:I have to say that I hope these things aren’t becoming ‘the norm’. I think this is one of those fortuitous occasions where my desire and reality intersect.
The feel of this is far different to the near ubiquitous nature of Mass Shootings in the United States. These still illicit shock and anger in the populace, rather than resignation and recriminations.


And of course no one over here will mock the victims.

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Re: Strasbourg shooting

Postby Lancasterclaret » Wed Dec 12, 2018 2:01 pm

I don't think these things are becoming the "norm", but I do think that everyone that happens reinforces the idea that there are only two ways to deal with this.

- You accept restrictions to your civil liberties

- or you accept that your civil liberties will result to stuff like this happening

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Re: Strasbourg shooting

Postby Imploding Turtle » Wed Dec 12, 2018 2:09 pm

I think it's always been accepted that the more civil liberties we enjoy the more likely acts like this will happen. But we're prepared to give up some of our liberties for a little safety when it comes to traffic lights and seat belts. But the problem is that some people are trying to convince us that we need to give up even more liberties, and they're using the fear of the boogieman to manipulate us into doing it.

Freedom and democracy is in decline and it's not because of terrorism, it's because of our own weak minds and willingness to allow demagogues and authoritarians to manipulate us into giving them more power over all of us because we think it will protect us from a tiny fraction of us.
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Re: Strasbourg shooting

Postby Lancasterclaret » Wed Dec 12, 2018 2:11 pm

Yep, I've never been in favour of ID cards, but I have to admit that I suspect they might be more popular in general now.

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Re: Strasbourg shooting

Postby GodIsADeeJay81 » Wed Dec 12, 2018 3:35 pm

So if they aren't becoming the norm, what are they then?

Terror attacks are appearing to happen regularly now, so at what point is it the norm?

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Re: Strasbourg shooting

Postby Lord Beamish » Wed Dec 12, 2018 3:55 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:So if they aren't becoming the norm, what are they then?

Terror attacks are appearing to happen regularly now, so at what point is it the norm?

If you are ready to concede that GodIsADeeJay81 has always been a new moniker for Sydney1st, and that that whole charade about it being a friend of yours who set up the account was just a way of leaving your baggage-laden old account behind and coming back with a clean slate, then I might be able to engage you an something other than mockery.

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Re: Strasbourg shooting

Postby Imploding Turtle » Wed Dec 12, 2018 3:57 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:So if they aren't becoming the norm, what are they then?

Terror attacks are appearing to happen regularly now, so at what point is it the norm?



I guess we're talking about two different things. Mass shootings are clearly not the norm nor are they becoming the norm.

However i would argue that terror attacks aren't becoming the norm either, since if this rate of terrorism is a sign of it being normalised then what the hell was the 70s, 80s and 90s when terrorism was a far bigger threat?

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Re: Strasbourg shooting

Postby Rick_Muller » Wed Dec 12, 2018 4:31 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:I guess we're talking about two different things. Mass shootings are clearly not the norm nor are they becoming the norm.

However i would argue that terror attacks aren't becoming the norm either, since if this rate of terrorism is a sign of it being normalised then what the hell was the 70s, 80s and 90s when terrorism was a far bigger threat?

yeah but that was the Irish, and they're the same colour as the English... ahem...

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Re: Strasbourg shooting

Postby GodIsADeeJay81 » Wed Dec 12, 2018 8:49 pm

Lord Beamish wrote:If you are ready to concede that GodIsADeeJay81 has always been a new moniker for Sydney1st, and that that whole charade about it being a friend of yours who set up the account was just a way of leaving your baggage-laden old account behind and coming back with a clean slate, then I might be able to engage you an something other than mockery.


I admitted a while ago who I was, but it was someone else who created the account.

Plus I've asked for my own account to be unblocked several times now but the mods don't seem to be that arsed about doing it.

Next?

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Re: Strasbourg shooting

Postby GodIsADeeJay81 » Wed Dec 12, 2018 8:50 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:I guess we're talking about two different things. Mass shootings are clearly not the norm nor are they becoming the norm.

However i would argue that terror attacks aren't becoming the norm either, since if this rate of terrorism is a sign of it being normalised then what the hell was the 70s, 80s and 90s when terrorism was a far bigger threat?


Mass shootings in the US are the norm, they're regular enough and most of the world is meh when another happens, which should be any time in the next couple of weeks.

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Re: Strasbourg shooting

Postby Bordeauxclaret » Wed Dec 12, 2018 8:51 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:I admitted a while ago who I was, but it was someone else who created the account.

Plus I've asked for my own account to be unblocked several times now but the mods don't seem to be that arsed about doing it.

Next?


Why were you weirdly talking between your two accounts on Twitter in order to cover your tracks?

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Re: Strasbourg shooting

Postby Imploding Turtle » Wed Dec 12, 2018 8:53 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:Mass shootings in the US are the norm, they're regular enough and most of the world is meh when another happens, which should be any time in the next couple of weeks.


next couple of hours

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Re: Strasbourg shooting

Postby Lord Beamish » Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:57 pm

Bordeauxclaret wrote:Why were you weirdly talking between your two accounts on Twitter in order to cover your tracks?

Because he’s full of sh!te and thinks we all came down in the last shower of rain.
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Re: Strasbourg shooting

Postby Bfcboyo » Wed Dec 12, 2018 10:07 pm

More madness in aworld dominated by apes that won the evolution golden ticket and didn't know what to do with it other than hurt each other.

Im fed up.

Bfc boyo

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Re: Strasbourg shooting

Postby ClaretMoffitt » Wed Dec 12, 2018 10:18 pm

Rick_Muller wrote:yeah but that was the Irish, and they're the same colour as the English... ahem...


it always comes down to colour with you people

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Re: Strasbourg shooting

Postby Rick_Muller » Wed Dec 12, 2018 10:34 pm

ClaretMoffitt wrote:it always comes down to colour with you people

I have no idea what you’re alluding to, I was being sarcastic - as in in the 70’s 80’s and 90’s under the greater threat of Irish republican terrorism no one could blame Asian Muslims for it, which is usually what happens on here...

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Re: Strasbourg shooting

Postby claretonthecoast1882 » Thu Dec 13, 2018 8:23 am

The IRA weren't/aren't terrorists though. Jeremy & Diane have told us all often enough

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Re: Strasbourg shooting

Postby Imploding Turtle » Thu Dec 13, 2018 8:29 am

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:The IRA weren't/aren't terrorists though. Jeremy & Diane have told us all often enough



Only Corbyn, who called what the IRA did "terrorism", can be accused of saying the IRA aren't terrorists.

It's as if the truth just isn't relevant to you when it comes to your opinions.


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