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Self indulgence Alert!

Post by South West Claret. » Wed Dec 12, 2018 7:59 am

Just when you think this Government can't get any worst-

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46535739" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Post by SmudgetheClaret » Wed Dec 12, 2018 8:07 am

Don't fall for the hype it's just a pantomime probably planned weeks in advance even if she loses which is unlikely the establishment will replace her with another EU shill...

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Post by Imploding Turtle » Wed Dec 12, 2018 8:08 am

SmudgetheClaret wrote:Don't fall for the hype it's just a pantomime probably planned weeks in advance even if she loses which is unlikely the establishment will replace her with another EU shill...
:lol: It's all a (((Deep State))) conspiracy, isn't it Smudge? Did Q predict this? I bet he did.

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Post by Lancasterclaret » Wed Dec 12, 2018 8:08 am

Don't do drugs kids

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Post by martin_p » Wed Dec 12, 2018 8:15 am

Imploding Turtle wrote::lol: It's all a (((Deep State))) conspiracy, isn't it Smudge? Did Q predict this? I bet he did.
I think Smudge is probably an establishment plant designed to discredit followers of Q.

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Post by SmudgetheClaret » Wed Dec 12, 2018 8:16 am

Imploding Turtle wrote::lol: It's all a (((Deep State))) conspiracy, isn't it Smudge? Did Q predict this? I bet he did.
and there's me thinking you would be dancing around with the hope she goes odd that innit?..

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Post by South West Claret. » Wed Dec 12, 2018 8:18 am

On top of it all only 27 MP's Tory have the guts and openness to admit they want May out by calling for this irresponsible and damaging (to this Country) Internal election.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46237174" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Post by SmudgetheClaret » Wed Dec 12, 2018 8:18 am

It's just a shock none of you cutting edge researchers didn't even know about Q until I mentioned it lol

"The day the leftists woke up " ha ha ha

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Post by Lancasterclaret » Wed Dec 12, 2018 8:21 am

Known about it for quite some time mate.

Only nutters believe it though.

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Post by Imploding Turtle » Wed Dec 12, 2018 8:23 am

SmudgetheClaret wrote:and there's me thinking you would be dancing around with the hope she goes odd that innit?..
Just because i'm laughing at you doesn't mean I hope she wins, or loses. I've shared no opinion.

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Post by Imploding Turtle » Wed Dec 12, 2018 8:25 am

SmudgetheClaret wrote:It's just a shock none of you cutting edge researchers didn't even know about Q until I mentioned it lol

"The day the leftists woke up " ha ha ha
You didn't mention it. You parroted something about the Clinton's being brought down on December 5th (how's that going?) which i was able to discern was from Qanon.

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Post by SmudgetheClaret » Wed Dec 12, 2018 8:27 am

Lancasterclaret wrote:Known about it for quite some time mate.

Only nutters believe it though.
Only time will tell! I mean quite a few on here believed 800k jobs would go an emergency budget would be imminent also every family would be £4300 worse off if we voted leave ,and the economy would fffaaaaallllllll off a cliff !! actually we have record employment and wages up by over 3% we are all doomed ..

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Post by SmudgetheClaret » Wed Dec 12, 2018 8:28 am

Imploding Turtle wrote:You didn't mention it. You parroted something about the Clinton's being brought down on December 5th (how's that going?) which i was able to discern was from Qanon.
She got her letter...

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Post by Imploding Turtle » Wed Dec 12, 2018 8:30 am

SmudgetheClaret wrote:Only time will tell! I mean quite a few on here believed 800k jobs would go an emergency budget would be imminent also every family would be £4300 worse off if we voted leave ,and the economy would fffaaaaallllllll off a cliff !! actually we have record employment and wages up by over 3% we are all doomed ..
Source?

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Post by SmudgetheClaret » Wed Dec 12, 2018 8:39 am

Imploding Turtle wrote:Source?
yawn your stalling tactics are getting so obvious..

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Post by Imploding Turtle » Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:04 am

SmudgetheClaret wrote:yawn your stalling tactics are getting so obvious..
Asking you to prove you're not just making **** up is not "stalling".

:lol:

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Post by Lancasterclaret » Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:08 am

Remember that this bloke when asked for proof that his claims weren't all right wing fantasist ******** came up with two articles.

One from Breibart, one from infowars

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Post by dsr » Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:22 am

Imploding Turtle wrote:Source?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics- ... m-36534192" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... referendum" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
https://news.sky.com/story/brexit-could ... r-10291524" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/brit ... ysis-shows" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

One from the BBC showing the emergency budget, one from the Guardian showing the £4,300 per family loss of income, and one from Sky with 800,000 job cuts. And if you think they're all biased pro-Brexit liars, one from the government itself - but that only shows 500,000 job losses so you might say it doesn't count.

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Post by Imploding Turtle » Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:30 am

dsr wrote:https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics- ... m-36534192
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... referendum" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
https://news.sky.com/story/brexit-could ... r-10291524" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/brit ... ysis-shows" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

One from the BBC showing the emergency budget, one from the Guardian showing the £4,300 per family loss of income, and one from Sky with 800,000 job cuts. And if you think they're all biased pro-Brexit liars, one from the government itself - but that only shows 500,000 job losses so you might say it doesn't count.
Thanks. But there was a reason i wanted Smudge to provide his sources. He accuses the rest of us of being NPCs so I wanted him to prove he isn't just parroting something he's read on Gab from someone else who thinks the same way he does.

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Post by piston broke » Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:34 am

SmudgetheClaret wrote:Only time will tell! I mean quite a few on here believed 800k jobs would go an emergency budget would be imminent also every family would be £4300 worse off if we voted leave ,and the economy would fffaaaaallllllll off a cliff !! actually we have record employment and wages up by over 3% we are all doomed ..
Zero hours contracts and pushing kids into Uni, with the promise of untold riches, can certainly slant the unempluyment figures for you. If there are so few unemployed why are there so many homeless and food banks?

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Post by Lancasterclaret » Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:51 am

All people who spend all their money on fags and booze piston. You should know that by now.

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Post by Imploding Turtle » Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:54 am

Lancasterclaret wrote:All people who spend all their money on fags and booze piston. You should know that by now.
And 1024" TVs

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Post by martin_p » Wed Dec 12, 2018 10:40 am

dsr wrote:https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics- ... m-36534192
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... referendum" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
https://news.sky.com/story/brexit-could ... r-10291524" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/brit ... ysis-shows" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

One from the BBC showing the emergency budget, one from the Guardian showing the £4,300 per family loss of income, and one from Sky with 800,000 job cuts. And if you think they're all biased pro-Brexit liars, one from the government itself - but that only shows 500,000 job losses so you might say it doesn't count.
I’m not sure how the £4300 loss by 2030 and the job losses after Brexit can be claimed to be wrong yet. In fact all three articles are ‘after Brexit’ and we haven’t left yet!

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Post by AlargeClaret » Wed Dec 12, 2018 11:12 am

piston broke wrote:Zero hours contracts and pushing kids into Uni, with the promise of untold riches, can certainly slant the unempluyment figures for you. If there are so few unemployed why are there so many homeless and food banks?
Start giving out free food and millions will take full advantage of the facilities . While there of course deserving cases the vast amount are simply the lowest of the low bottom feeders who spend their dole on drugs and in Spoons .Saves many of the work shy underclass having to fork out for food . I know a volunteer from Rochdale food bank ( opposite job centre ) and he reckons about 20% are totally legit ( or homeless ) they rock up into spoons bags bulging and spend half the day refillingbtheir 90p coffee .

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Post by SmudgetheClaret » Wed Dec 12, 2018 11:22 am

Imploding Turtle wrote:Thanks. But there was a reason i wanted Smudge to provide his sources. He accuses the rest of us of being NPCs so I wanted him to prove he isn't just parroting something he's read on Gab from someone else who thinks the same way he does.
Only a complete tool would ask someone to produce a source about a possible false flag event opinion when he can’t even produce evidence that project fear was correct ..

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Post by aggi » Wed Dec 12, 2018 11:34 am

martin_p wrote:I’m not sure how the £4300 loss by 2030 and the job losses after Brexit can be claimed to be wrong yet. In fact all three articles are ‘after Brexit’ and we haven’t left yet!
There was a forecast for immediately after the Brexit vote that was pretty negative in terms of jobs (500k lost) and GDP (3% drop) https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... eu_web.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Obviously that means that all forecasts can be ignored

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Post by Imploding Turtle » Wed Dec 12, 2018 1:47 pm

SmudgetheClaret wrote:Only a complete tool would ask someone to produce a source about a possible false flag event opinion when he can’t even produce evidence that project fear was correct ..
So you're saying it's a false flag terrorist attack, but can't provide any evidence whatsoever. And to defend yourself you're accusing me of not providing evidence for something I've not defended.

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Post by Imploding Turtle » Wed Dec 12, 2018 1:59 pm

Funny how the Conservatives are allowed to change their mind, but the rest of us aren't.

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Post by AndrewJB » Wed Dec 12, 2018 2:06 pm

Has someone said the Jo Cox terror murder was “false flag”?

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Post by dsr » Wed Dec 12, 2018 2:09 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:Funny how the Conservatives are allowed to change their mind, but the rest of us aren't.

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Have you changed your mind?

More seriously, the election to appoint Theresa May leader of the Conservative Party was put into effect and we have seen the results. The vote to leave the EU has not been put into effect; the repeat vote is an attempt to stop the first vote from being put into effect.

Anyway, leave would win a re-run. IMO.

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Post by Lancasterclaret » Wed Dec 12, 2018 2:13 pm

Might do, but it might not.

The confidence in which leave backers insist they will win is only matched by their determined attempts to make sure the vote never happens.

And, and this is the key, we can't continue like this. There has to be a way out that involves as many voters as possible.

That either another election or another vote.
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Post by Imploding Turtle » Wed Dec 12, 2018 2:14 pm

dsr wrote:Have you changed your mind?

More seriously, the election to appoint Theresa May leader of the Conservative Party was put into effect and we have seen the results. The vote to leave the EU has not been put into effect; the repeat vote is an attempt to stop the first vote from being put into effect.

Anyway, leave would win a re-run. IMO.

We don't need to have a decision enacted to change our mind about it. Especially when you and I both know that we can't change our mind once we've enacted it.

We can't keep the same arrangement we have now if we leave, don't like it, and then want to come back.
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Post by Imploding Turtle » Wed Dec 12, 2018 2:16 pm

Theresa May has cancelled tonight's vote of confidence.

https://newsthump.com/2018/12/12/theres ... eadership/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Post by SmudgetheClaret » Wed Dec 12, 2018 4:36 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:Asking you to prove you're not just making **** up is not "stalling".

:lol:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics- ... m-36355564" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics- ... m-36534192" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics- ... m-36073201" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... employment" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-46520876" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Curry sauce :D :D :D

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Post by SmudgetheClaret » Wed Dec 12, 2018 4:41 pm

SmudgetheClaret wrote:https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics- ... m-36355564 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics- ... m-36534192" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics- ... m-36073201" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... employment" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-46520876" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Curry sauce :D :D :D

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