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ARTICLE: Defour and Guðmundsson doubtful for Spurs

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Dec 13, 2018 1:35 pm

Both doubts according to Sean Dyche

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Re: ARTICLE: Defour and Guðmundsson doubtful for Spurs

Post by FactualFrank » Thu Dec 13, 2018 1:40 pm

Lennon in for his defensive duties then, I imagine.

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Re: ARTICLE: Defour and Guðmundsson doubtful for Spurs

Post by Fretters » Thu Dec 13, 2018 1:45 pm

Hope neither turn into long-term, mystery 'touch and go' injuries. I always fear this with Defour in particular.

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Post by claretspice » Thu Dec 13, 2018 1:56 pm

FactualFrank wrote:Lennon in for his defensive duties then, I imagine.
Quite possibly, although it would always be partly for his pace on the counter-attack too (although I accept this has generally been a better theory than fact in his time with us).

Personally, I'd prefer to see Hendrick come in to play an "Arfield role" on the right hand side if we are playing 4-4-2. He's played there for Ireland, and he's capable of supplementing Cork and Westwood narrow when we need him to, as well as athletic and diligent enough to help Bardsley when necessary.

All 3 of our wingers are good defensively and do a good shift, but Lennon in particular is used to holding his width and he does struggle with our demands that he step inside at times when we're playing 4-4-2.

Given the importance of the Christmas campaign, not sure it is a complete disaster if JBG gets a bit of rest in during the next couple of weekends, and you can probably say the same about Defour.

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Post by South West Claret. » Thu Dec 13, 2018 2:08 pm

I've may have missed it but what was the actual reason for Gudies injury on Sat? I assumed that it was just short term concussion but being doubtful for Sat. as well suggests not.

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Post by FactualFrank » Thu Dec 13, 2018 2:17 pm

claretspice wrote:Quite possibly, although it would always be partly for his pace on the counter-attack too
Sure, but I think that goes without saying.

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Re: ARTICLE: Defour and Guðmundsson doubtful for Spurs

Post by Foulthrow » Thu Dec 13, 2018 3:18 pm

With this game in mind are a number of Clarets about to equal Andy Farrell's record? - i.e. played for Burnley twice at Wembley????

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Post by Stayingup » Thu Dec 13, 2018 3:52 pm

Defour injured? Never. Hope JBG isnt long term though.
Hendrick to come in but I wouldn't mind seeing our young reserve winger get a go. But cant see that happening at Wembley.

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Post by South West Claret. » Thu Dec 13, 2018 4:08 pm

[quote="South West Claret."]I've may have missed it but what was the actual reason for Gudies injury on Sat? I assumed that it was just short term concussion but being doubtful for Sat. as well suggests not.[/quote

Must be someone who can give me the answer.

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Post by Paulclaret » Thu Dec 13, 2018 4:16 pm

[quote="South West Claret."][/quote]

Telegraph reporting a hamstring problem.

https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/s ... s/?ref=mac

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Post by FactualFrank » Thu Dec 13, 2018 4:35 pm

Fretters wrote:Hope neither turn into long-term, mystery 'touch and go' injuries. I always fear this with Defour in particular.
I think the phrase "touch and go" sends a shiver down the spine of most Burnley fans.
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Re: ARTICLE: Defour and Guðmundsson doubtful for Spurs

Post by Bosscat » Thu Dec 13, 2018 4:39 pm

Foulthrow wrote:With this game in mind are a number of Clarets about to equal Andy Farrell's record? - i.e. played for Burnley twice at Wembley????
Know what you mean ... but as Spurs are playing home games currently at Wembley it wouldn't count like cup/play-off matches m8
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Post by Foulthrow » Thu Dec 13, 2018 4:43 pm

Bosscat wrote:Know what you mean ... but as Spurs are playing home games currently at Wembley it wouldn't count like cup/play-off matches m8
Still true though, but, yeah, not as significant

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Re: ARTICLE: Defour and Guðmundsson doubtful for Spurs

Post by jrgbfc » Thu Dec 13, 2018 5:11 pm

No point risking either of them in next 2 games. Save them for the Xmas period.

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Re: ARTICLE: Defour and Guðmundsson doubtful for Spurs

Post by South West Claret. » Thu Dec 13, 2018 5:40 pm

Paulclaret wrote:
Telegraph reporting a hamstring problem.

https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/s ... s/?ref=mac
Thanks Paul, well I never i was convinced it was concussion still no good taking risks with hamstrings good decision to rest him.

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Re: ARTICLE: Defour and Guðmundsson doubtful for Spurs

Post by dsr » Thu Dec 13, 2018 5:43 pm

Foulthrow wrote:With this game in mind are a number of Clarets about to equal Andy Farrell's record? - i.e. played for Burnley twice at Wembley????
The team was Heaton, Lowton, Ward, Mee, Tarkowski, Gudmondsson, Cork, Defour, Brady, Arfield, Vokes. Subs used: Barnes, Wood, Westwood.

So probably Mee, Tarkowski, Cork, Brady, Barnes, Wood, Westwood, and Vokes if he comes on.

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Re: ARTICLE: Defour and Guðmundsson doubtful for Spurs

Post by SGr » Thu Dec 13, 2018 5:52 pm

They must be fit for Everton and Huddersfield. That is priority.
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Re: ARTICLE: Defour and Guðmundsson doubtful for Spurs

Post by DCWat » Thu Dec 13, 2018 5:57 pm

claretspice wrote:Quite possibly, although it would always be partly for his pace on the counter-attack too (although I accept this has generally been a better theory than fact in his time with us).

Personally, I'd prefer to see Hendrick come in to play an "Arfield role" on the right hand side if we are playing 4-4-2. He's played there for Ireland, and he's capable of supplementing Cork and Westwood narrow when we need him to, as well as athletic and diligent enough to help Bardsley when necessary.

All 3 of our wingers are good defensively and do a good shift, but Lennon in particular is used to holding his width and he does struggle with our demands that he step inside at times when we're playing 4-4-2.

Given the importance of the Christmas campaign, not sure it is a complete disaster if JBG gets a bit of rest in during the next couple of weekends, and you can probably say the same about Defour.
I’m surprised we’ve not tried to utilise Hendrick in a little more of a ‘wider’ role. I’m not his biggest fan but could certainly see him being effective there, certainly defensively and if he can capture some of his form from last year for Ireland, offensively too.

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Re: ARTICLE: Defour and Guðmundsson doubtful for Spurs

Post by AlargeClaret » Thu Dec 13, 2018 6:20 pm

Time to get rid of the injury prone Belgian, he may be talented but we’ve seen nowt but a few scraps and seemingly endless injuries in 2+ seasons . He can see out his years in Brugge unless Turkey offer him a season .
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Re: ARTICLE: Defour and Guðmundsson doubtful for Spurs

Post by Billyblah » Thu Dec 13, 2018 8:26 pm

Injury prone Belgians are tricky to offload. Everyone has sussed that he represents poor value for money.
Shame really, I've enjoyed one or two moments of brilliance when he's been on the field.
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Re: ARTICLE: Defour and Guðmundsson doubtful for Spurs

Post by Paul Waine » Thu Dec 13, 2018 8:34 pm

Steven Defour had a great game at Wembley last season. I remember Defour keeping us in the game at 1-0 with great defensive play, clearing off our line. Later Chris Wood came on - and I think it was Steven Defour who played the perfect pass to put Wood in to score and bring back one point. (Happy to be corrected on latter, if my recall is off).

I'll take a draw on Saturday - whoever is starting for us.

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Post by paulus the woodgnome » Thu Dec 13, 2018 8:46 pm

It was Brady's through ball for Wood, Paul.
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Re: ARTICLE: Defour and Guðmundsson doubtful for Spurs

Post by Tall Paul » Fri Dec 14, 2018 7:27 am

Billyblah wrote:Injury prone Belgians are tricky to offload.
I reckon there would be plenty of clubs queueing up if City wanted to sell Dr Bruyne or Kompany.

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Post by claretspice » Fri Dec 14, 2018 8:06 am

DCWat wrote:I’m surprised we’ve not tried to utilise Hendrick in a little more of a ‘wider’ role. I’m not his biggest fan but could certainly see him being effective there, certainly defensively and if he can capture some of his form from last year for Ireland, offensively too.
I agree DC. He's sound defensively, has the engine for the job and covers the ground well. He also carries the ball well and I've always thought he does a lot of his best work in wider positions anyway.

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Re: ARTICLE: Defour and Guðmundsson doubtful for Spurs

Post by Il Duce » Fri Dec 14, 2018 9:05 am

Paul Waine wrote:Steven Defour had a great game at Wembley last season. I remember Defour keeping us in the game at 1-0 with great defensive play, clearing off our line. Later Chris Wood came on - and I think it was Steven Defour who played the perfect pass to put Wood in to score and bring back one point. (Happy to be corrected on latter, if my recall is off).

I'll take a draw on Saturday - whoever is starting for us.

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Brady played the through ball to Wood. Defour did have a good game nonetheless.
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Post by houseboy » Fri Dec 14, 2018 11:16 am

Defour at the moment seems no massive loss but JBG not playing is a massive blow to us in my opinion. He would be first on my team sheet every week.
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Post by jlup1980 » Fri Dec 14, 2018 11:32 am

Hart
Bardsley Tarky Mee Taylor
Westwood Cork
Lennon Barnes Brady
Wood

We go again.

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Post by 4:20 » Fri Dec 14, 2018 11:34 am

I've just tried rubbing Gudmundssons name, thinking I had a speck of dirt on my phone.

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Re: ARTICLE: Defour and Guðmundsson doubtful for Spurs

Post by Spike » Fri Dec 14, 2018 1:02 pm

when do the Christmas Celebrations end in Belgium?

Defour has played over 50 games for Burnley which maybe an unfair statement because it seems like hes only completed a few of those games. for a "magician" I feel I should have more memorable moments from him.
Both him and JBG are amazing on their day but far too easily injured

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Post by Ooogeorgeorgeoghani » Fri Dec 14, 2018 10:57 pm

houseboy wrote:Defour at the moment seems no massive loss but JBG not playing is a massive blow to us in my opinion. He would be first on my team sheet every week.
I agree to an extent but I really think we play better with Brady, he seems to link the play better, given the choice though I would have them both starting
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Re: ARTICLE: Defour and Guðmundsson doubtful for Spurs

Post by Longside4evr » Sat Dec 15, 2018 11:06 am

Brilliant technician Defour but its not worth all the aggro now its unsettling
You wait for him coming back from injury then a couple of games or so in he's injured again
We must work on things in training to accommodate these players coming back and putting work in then for it all to be stop and start not just Defour but so many players this season it's destructive with such a small squad.
It's not helping and I certainly not pinning my hopes on Defour has he is top of this list now how much in wages and rehabilitation have we spunked on this player and a part from seeing a few glimpses of game spitting passes and a couple decent goals that's your lot
We have not had value at all and it's been a bad signing in that respect I would try and off load but be surprised if we got a dime the MSL would probably find a place for him there is no point in keeping hold of him now as all them injuries play their toll eventually and that's why we have only seen bit parts of his capabilities Its not good enough for a club like ours we need solid contributors we bought a crock of the highest order in Defour his best days are long since gone with the talent inside if we where flying high we probably could have continued in this vain but considering our position we need to open up places for new recruits and its a position crying out for some stability.

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