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Kevin Long

Post by kaptin1 » Sat Dec 22, 2018 4:24 pm

Seems to be dividing opinion today. A lot of people raving about his performance yet, for me, he was at fault for two out of three goals. Caught flat footed and ball watching for the first and didn’t track Ewobi for the third. Other than that I thought his general play was very good, but it’s those key moments that really matter to me.

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Re: Kevin Long

Post by MACCA » Sat Dec 22, 2018 4:26 pm

He did some good stuff, some not so good.
Sadly the not so good cost us a goal ( 2 If you're being harsh ) and you can't do that every other week at this level never mind when we are struggling to score.

If 3 at the back is here to stay, you'd think Gibson will be in before ling, he can play a bit too, we can't have 2 booters in there, we need 1 or 2 able to carry it forward.

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Re: Kevin Long

Post by Vegas Claret » Sat Dec 22, 2018 4:29 pm

he'll be very good in the Championship
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Re: Kevin Long

Post by Granny WeatherWax » Sat Dec 22, 2018 4:30 pm

Could have done better on goals 1&3. Gibson to play in a back 3 with mee and Tarks if we are to continue with this system.

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Re: Kevin Long

Post by Quickenthetempo » Sat Dec 22, 2018 4:31 pm

Gibson in for Mee for me.
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Re: Kevin Long

Post by Buxtonclaret » Sat Dec 22, 2018 5:47 pm

He was caught by the first goal.
But sometimes you've got to acknowledge a great through ball.
That one was brilliant.
It would have exposed a lot of more renowned CBs than Kevin.
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Re: Kevin Long

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sat Dec 22, 2018 5:48 pm

Shouldve wiped him out on the third at least twice.

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Re: Kevin Long

Post by Inchy » Sat Dec 22, 2018 5:49 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:he'll be very good in the Championship

Be invaluable next year then
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Re: Kevin Long

Post by ClaretAL » Sat Dec 22, 2018 5:53 pm

For me Lowton was at fault for the 3rd goal. the back 4 kept the line while he played the goal scorer onside by sitting 5 yds deeper. I would like to see what Gibbson is like, but i dont think our current CB's are doing a lot wrong.

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Re: Kevin Long

Post by THEWELLERNUT70 » Sat Dec 22, 2018 5:54 pm

Ewobi was offside

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Re: Kevin Long

Post by Jakubs Tash » Sat Dec 22, 2018 6:22 pm

He's ok for the odd game. When he gets a run of games he starts to make crucial mistakes.

A back 3 of Tarkowski, Mee and Gibson for me. Not only our 3 best centre halves but the wide two of the back three see a lot of the ball so need decent distribution - for me that should be Tarkowsi and Gibson.
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Re: Kevin Long

Post by MDWat » Sat Dec 22, 2018 6:22 pm

Very poor today. A limited footballer who will be inevitably regularly be caught out at this level.

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Re: Kevin Long

Post by Top Claret » Sat Dec 22, 2018 6:25 pm

[quote="Inchy"]Be invaluable next year then[
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Re: Kevin Long

Post by Top Claret » Sat Dec 22, 2018 6:25 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Shouldve wiped him out on the third at least twice.
Rubbish nowhere near him

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Re: Kevin Long

Post by Top Claret » Sat Dec 22, 2018 6:29 pm

ClaretAL wrote:For me Lowton was at fault for the 3rd goal. the back 4 kept the line while he played the goal scorer onside by sitting 5 yds deeper. I would like to see what Gibbson is like, but i dont think our current CB's are doing a lot wrong.
Definitely Lowtons, he was day dreaming, played him on and 2yd behind the line

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Re: Kevin Long

Post by warksclaret » Sat Dec 22, 2018 6:29 pm

Very loyal, will give you 100%, and come through a nasty injury. He could move to the Championship and start every game. No where near a PL defender though , and sadly the way we are playing neither is Ben on present form

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Re: Kevin Long

Post by Top Claret » Sat Dec 22, 2018 6:34 pm

Not seen a re - run of the goals, but I thought Kev got caught out with one of them by losing possession.
His marks are rather generous by some of you lot, not worthy of anymore than 7.
Tarks was far our best central defender Mee was our weakest link with poor defending and distribution
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Re: Kevin Long

Post by Top Claret » Sat Dec 22, 2018 6:35 pm

MDWat wrote:Very poor today. A limited footballer who will be inevitably regularly be caught out at this level.
Very harsh

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Re: Kevin Long

Post by boatshed bill » Sat Dec 22, 2018 6:39 pm

Top Claret wrote:Very harsh
Probably right, though.

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Re: Kevin Long

Post by Vintage Claret » Sat Dec 22, 2018 6:46 pm

Been a good back up so far, got caught out and make a mistake today against quality opposition doesn't suddenly make him a bad un

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Re: Kevin Long

Post by SalisburyClaret » Sat Dec 22, 2018 7:11 pm

Don’t forget his assist for our goal
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Re: Kevin Long

Post by JohnMac » Sat Dec 22, 2018 7:12 pm

It was his block tackle that led to Ash scoring, swings and roundabouts.

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Re: Kevin Long

Post by SkiptonClaret » Sat Dec 22, 2018 8:57 pm

Shouldn’t be playing in a PL team on a regular basis but then you could say that about 7/8 of our players. He shouldn’t be encouraged to do anything other than the most simplest of things. (refer: Arsenal’s third goal today).

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Re: Kevin Long

Post by ksrclaret » Sat Dec 22, 2018 8:59 pm

He's nothing more than solid on a good day, and especially in the PL, is left exposed when given a run of games.

If we're serious about playing 3 CBs, and I'd hope we are and haven't just done this because we were scared of Arsenal and Spurs, then Ben Gibson must be given a chance to show his qualities.

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Re: Kevin Long

Post by boatshed bill » Sat Dec 22, 2018 9:16 pm

JohnMac wrote:It was his block tackle that led to Ash scoring, swings and roundabouts.
An old manager of mine used to say that what you do well is why you are out there, and is a minimum requirement. Your game is defined by your mistakes.

He was a miserable old bugger!
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Re: Kevin Long

Post by SandyLaneClaret » Sat Dec 22, 2018 9:26 pm

kaptin1 wrote:Seems to be dividing opinion today. A lot of people raving about his performance yet, for me, he was at fault for two out of three goals. Caught flat footed and ball watching for the first and didn’t track Ewobi for the third. Other than that I thought his general play was very good, but it’s those key moments that really matter to me.
Tarks, Long, Mee. In that order today.

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Re: Kevin Long

Post by SandyLaneClaret » Sat Dec 22, 2018 9:29 pm

boatshed bill wrote:An old manager of mine used to say that what you do well is why you are out there, and is a minimum requirement. Your game is defined by your mistakes.

He was a miserable old bugger!
Sounds like your manager was Dyche,!
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Re: Kevin Long

Post by Woodleyclaret » Sat Dec 22, 2018 9:30 pm

A good game today.Ben Mees backing off led to second goal far too much room given as he backed off

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Re: Kevin Long

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sat Dec 22, 2018 11:38 pm

Top Claret wrote:Rubbish nowhere near him
Watch it again.

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Re: Kevin Long

Post by Silkyskills1 » Sun Dec 23, 2018 6:38 pm

He's just back-up. A last resort when there is nobody else available. Incredible to have him playing ahead of someone who cost us £15 million. Given any run In the team he will make more mistakes. He's got all the attributes of a modern day defender except for ability.

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