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Burnley v Everton - Player Ratings

Post by ClaretTony » Wed Dec 26, 2018 5:19 pm

Please leave ratings for all players who have played 20 mins or more.

Scoring is from 3 to 10 as follows:

10 - Out of this World
9 - Excellent
8 - Very Good
7 - Good
6 - Average
5 - Below Par
4 - Poor
3 - Abysmal

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Re: Burnley v Everton - Player Ratings

Post by FCBurnley » Wed Dec 26, 2018 5:20 pm

Cork 5
Rest 3
Dyche 0

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Re: Burnley v Everton - Player Ratings

Post by burnley007 » Wed Dec 26, 2018 5:21 pm

This could get messy...
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Re: Burnley v Everton - Player Ratings

Post by Claretto » Wed Dec 26, 2018 5:22 pm

FCBurnley wrote:Cork 5
Rest 3
Dyche 0
All 3
Gibson 5

Cork was terrible and has been for a while. No strength or pace and an inability to play a forward pass. He's a right footed David Jones.
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Re: Burnley v Everton - Player Ratings

Post by ClaretAndJew » Wed Dec 26, 2018 5:22 pm

-3

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Re: Burnley v Everton - Player Ratings

Post by burnley007 » Wed Dec 26, 2018 5:22 pm

Shall we just accept it as 3s for the entire club and move on?
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Re: Burnley v Everton - Player Ratings

Post by Brisliam » Wed Dec 26, 2018 5:23 pm

Everyone who started other than Gibson and Barnes was a 4 at best. Gibson and Barnes both a 6. Subs made no impact at all.

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Re: Burnley v Everton - Player Ratings

Post by KlyBfc » Wed Dec 26, 2018 5:23 pm

Each and every one of them get a 1 from me. They get that 1 mark for a 5min spell first half where they actually pressed. If it has to be jumped to a 3 for the ratings then the mods please do so but I can not give above a 1 for THAT today. It’s not the losing it’s the way we have lost.
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Re: Burnley v Everton - Player Ratings

Post by Steve1956 » Wed Dec 26, 2018 5:24 pm

I wasn't there,didn't watch a stream,but losing 5-1 at home,no one deserves a mark....sorry.

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Re: Burnley v Everton - Player Ratings

Post by South West Claret. » Wed Dec 26, 2018 5:26 pm

Might be a good idea not to do your marks till tomorrow.
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Re: Burnley v Everton - Player Ratings

Post by Vegas Claret » Wed Dec 26, 2018 5:27 pm

Hart 3 - absolutely hapless and needs dropping
Lowton 3 - rubbish
Mee - 3 - can someone tell us where the real Ben is hiding ?
Tarks - 3 - shadow of a player who got in the England team
Gibson - 5 - best of the 3 CB's and gets taken off

you know what, the rest can all have 3 too.

Dyche -100, utterly disgraceful

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Re: Burnley v Everton - Player Ratings

Post by FCBurnley » Wed Dec 26, 2018 5:28 pm

Error by Taylor conceeding corner for first
Error by Lowton for second (needless foul)
Error by Oliver for third.
Burnley goal by Barnes not Gibson
Open goal miss by Tarks to make it 2-3
Awful by Hart for fourth
Game over

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Re: Burnley v Everton - Player Ratings

Post by Vegas Claret » Wed Dec 26, 2018 5:29 pm

FCBurnley wrote:Error by Taylor conceeding corner for first
Error by Lowton for second (needless foul)
Error by Oliver for third.
Burnley goal by Barnes not Gibson
Open goal miss by Tarks to make it 2-3
Awful by Hart for fourth
Game over
what did Oliver get wrong for the 3rd ?

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Re: Burnley v Everton - Player Ratings

Post by taio » Wed Dec 26, 2018 5:32 pm

Hart 3 (actually deserves zero)
Lowton 4
Tarkowski 3
Mee 4
Gibson 5*
Taylor 3
Cork 3
Westwood 3
Hendrick 4
Barnes 4
Vokes 4

Gudmundsson 4
McNeil 3

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Re: Burnley v Everton - Player Ratings

Post by fungus_the_bogeyman » Wed Dec 26, 2018 5:34 pm

Hart 3
Lowton 3
Taylor 3
Gibson 5
Tarkowski 3
Mee 3
Westwood 4
Cork 3
Hendrick 4
Barnes 5
Vokes 4

McNeil 3
Gudmundsson 5
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Re: Burnley v Everton - Player Ratings

Post by ChristheViking » Wed Dec 26, 2018 5:38 pm

Hart - 4 I haven’t seen him as part of the problem but cannot say that today. Inspired zero confidence altho to be fair it’s a 2 way thing.

Lowton - 4. Offered nothing either way
Mee - 3. Unacceptable.
Tarks - 4. Glad he has the 1 England cap as the next will be some time off based on that
Gibson - 5 better than the other 2 but that’s no compliment.
Taylor - 6. The one player I felt looked up for it.

Cork - 3. Another awful display in a string of awful displays.
Hendrick - 4. Played our one incisive ball to Barnes but 1st half had to check the teamsheet.
Westwood- 5 got stuck in but bang average at best

Barnes - 5
Vokes- 4

It’s realky hard to judge strikers when the long balls aren’t even close to them.

Dyche - 3. Wrong wrong wrong. Against a team who’d just conceded 6 for fun you’d have thought today at home we might have gone for it. However we had zero width and we are defensively all over the place.

Kevin Long must come in for Mee. Cork must go out for whoever. We simply cannot afford passengers like this.

We looked like a relegated team today.

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Re: Burnley v Everton - Player Ratings

Post by firebfcfire » Wed Dec 26, 2018 5:39 pm

How did Barnes deserve a 6? He won no headers, did nothing all game... How Wood gets on that picture is beyond me, Dyche doesn’t know his best team and feels obliged to pick Wood in some point of the game.

Hart - 3 sooner pope is back the better
Taylor - 5 thought he played well, apart from the appalling first touch for the corner.
Mee - 3 poor
Tarks - 3 wish I could vote lower
Gibson - 5 grew into the game, I think he’s a decent player.
Lowton - 3
Westwood - 3
Cork - 3 forward is sometimes an option...
Hendrick - 5 thought he started second half very brightly and for some reason got taken off
Vokes - 5 won his fair share of headers against 3 tall defenders.
Barnes - 3

Gudmundsson - 3
McNeil - 3 did either touch the ball?

Dyche - wrong tactics from the off.

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Re: Burnley v Everton - Player Ratings

Post by joey13 » Wed Dec 26, 2018 5:41 pm

Hart 3
Lowton 3
Tarkowski 3
Mee 3
Gibson 4
Taylor 3
Cork 3
Westwood 3
Hendrick 4
Barnes 4
Vokes 3

Gudmundsson 3
McNeil 3

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Re: Burnley v Everton - Player Ratings

Post by MACCA » Wed Dec 26, 2018 5:42 pm

Hart 4 doesn't command his 6 yards box nearly enough for me, fingers pointed for at least 2 of the goals for me
Lowton 5 wasn't confident in the slightest
Tarky 5 so, so sloppy thinks he's rio Ferdinand
Gibson 6 rusty, needs games
Mee 4 don't like saying it, but looked uninterested
Taylor 5 at fault for the first , just get rid
Hendrick
Cork
Westwood
All 5, unfair to mark them all apart, they are the least creative CM 3 I've seen play for Burnley for a vet long time. All look incapable of affecting a game
Barnes 6 tried
Vokes 6 tried

Dyche 3 , set up like that in what is getting "must win or at least must not lose games" then you're asking for trouble
Something really needs to change and very, very soon

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Re: Burnley v Everton - Player Ratings

Post by mikeS » Wed Dec 26, 2018 5:43 pm

I’d give Gibson 3, the ready 2 each and they’re lucky to get that. A Pants Performance. A Throw One In performance. A relegation stamped all over it performance. Awful

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Re: Burnley v Everton - Player Ratings

Post by Belial » Wed Dec 26, 2018 5:43 pm

Absolutely pathetic. After the last 3 games I thought we were getting back to 'normal' but that took the p1ss

Hart 3 - I've defended a lot of games but today he deserves the lowest mark
Lowton 5 - why drop Bardsley when he was doing well
Tarkowski 5 - thinks he's made it
Mee 5 - not right mentally I'm guessing
Gibson 6* - looked only one of back 6 that was any good
Taylor 3 - for the 15th time this season, he's not a PL player
Cork 5 - lost in midfield
Westwood 5 - as above
Hendrick 4 - brings nothing. Powderpuff
Barnes 5 both strikers getting sod all service as usual
Vokes 6 - put himself about more than Barnes

Gudmundsson 5
McNeil 5

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Re: Burnley v Everton - Player Ratings

Post by Il Duce » Wed Dec 26, 2018 5:43 pm

Hart - 5

Taylor - 6
Mee - 4
Tarks - 5
Gibson - 6
Lowton - 4

Cork - 3
Westwood - 5
Hendrick - 5

Vokes - 5
Barnes - 4

Change the line up, change the formation, style of football stays the same. Stale.

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Post by cricketfieldclarets » Wed Dec 26, 2018 5:44 pm

Hart 4
Lowton 4
Tarks 3
Mee 3
Gibson 6
Taylor 3
Westwood 4
Cork 4
Hendrick 4
Barnes 4
Vokes 3

Dyche 3. To make no changes before half time very poor. To make none by an hour shocking.

Then to bring 9ff our best performer while in turn making the defence and midfield worse, unbelievable. Not to mention no Vydra.

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Re: Burnley v Everton - Player Ratings

Post by Cirrus_Minor » Wed Dec 26, 2018 5:51 pm

Beaten 5-1 at home by an average Everton. The team never looked comfortable with the formation, the management team have to take blame for that.

Hart 3
Taylor 6
Med 4
Tarkowski 4
Gibson 5
Lowton 3
Westwood 5
Cork 5
Hendrick 5
Vokes 4
Barnes 4
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Re: Burnley v Everton - Player Ratings

Post by Belial » Wed Dec 26, 2018 5:52 pm

Granny WeatherWax wrote:Dychenosaur. Let’s keep hoofing it up cos those big Everton defenders might make a mistake one day. Sigh.
We've had two forms of attack all season, 1 is the hoof it upfront tactic in the hope we get a knockdown or a corner from it, and 2 is a hopeful cross that never reaches the man or is just defended far too easily

Both mid-table championship tactics at best. We've gone backwards

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Re: Burnley v Everton - Player Ratings

Post by claretgimmer » Wed Dec 26, 2018 5:52 pm

3 For the following because I have to : Hart, Lowton, Tarkowski, Mee, Cork, Hendrick.
4 For Taylor, Westwood, Barnes, Vokes
5 Gibson

Dyche complete gash, no viable tactics, no ability to change the game plan. Doesn't like pacy players aka Vydra because they want it on the floor but a big thank you for the £200 plus saving that I will make on my season ticket because as others have said I will not renew if our board doesn't grow a pair and let him take us down. I have no problem with championship football but not with him in charge. People say he should be given a chance because he has earned it, ********! he earned the right to a good wage and a good contract which he got both, so whatever it costs get shut.
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Re: Burnley v Everton - Player Ratings

Post by ClaretTony » Wed Dec 26, 2018 5:53 pm

Hart 3
Lowton 3
Tarkowski 3
Mee 5
Gibson 5
Taylor 3
Westwood 5
Cork 3
Hendrick 5
Barnes 5 (mom - because he actually showed some desire and commitment)
Vokes 3

Gudmundsson 3
McNeil 4

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Re: Burnley v Everton - Player Ratings

Post by THEWELLERNUT70 » Wed Dec 26, 2018 5:55 pm

Well that had the feel of an end of an era performance. Truly horrific viewing


Hart 4 Really poor
Lowton 3 waste of space and a lazy tw@t to boot who seems to have an attitude problem
Tarkowski 4 Clumsy
Mee 3 if I could mark lower I would. Had a hand in possibly 3 of their goals, looks uninterest and seems not to give a sh!t
Gibson 6
Taylor 6 The amount of defensive work he got through, getting in blocks, tracking people and covering the ar5e of the pathetic Mee was a decent effort
Cork 3 pulling a fridge again
Westwood 4
Hendrick 5 at least he can move the ball quickly
Barnes 4
Vokes 3 woeful

Gudmundsson 4
McNeil 4

The dye was cast with the original formation. Why the hell play with a passive set up when you are playing against a team that's just conceded 6. The subs were ridiculous too. Leave Mee on was idiotic when he was having a stinker as was the removal of Hendrick who was our best midfielder

Times up for me I'm afraid Sean

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Re: Burnley v Everton - Player Ratings

Post by Flat Stanley » Wed Dec 26, 2018 5:55 pm

Hart 4
Lowton 4
Tarks 3
Mee 3
Gibson 6
Taylor 6
Cork 4
Westwood 4
Hendrick 5
Barnes 3
Vokes 6

JBG 5
McNeil 5
Wood 5

Dyche 3 - took off our best center back on the day, our only attack minded midfield player when losing and Vokes who won pretty much all his headers when Barnes did nothing all game. All three subs completely wrong and far too late. Look nailed on for relegation. More goals conceded now than the whole of last season.

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Re: Burnley v Everton - Player Ratings

Post by Granny WeatherWax » Wed Dec 26, 2018 5:56 pm

Is pope fit yet cos he’s obviously lost confidence in / fell out with Heaton.

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Re: Burnley v Everton - Player Ratings

Post by BOYSIE31 » Wed Dec 26, 2018 6:00 pm

Not watched today but by God it's now time for the board to act and give some one else a fighting chance in the second half of the season - we are heading for 20 points
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Re: Burnley v Everton - Player Ratings

Post by Leyland Claret » Wed Dec 26, 2018 6:03 pm

I think they are the worst marks I have ever seen you give. I watched on the TV and it was as bad as it could get Crystal Palace apart

ClaretTony wrote:Hart 3
Lowton 3
Tarkowski 3
Mee 5
Gibson 5
Taylor 3
Westwood 5
Cork 3
Hendrick 5
Barnes 5 (mom - because he actually showed some desire and commitment)
Vokes 3

Gudmundsson 3
McNeil 4

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Re: Burnley v Everton - Player Ratings

Post by Beagleheart » Wed Dec 26, 2018 6:04 pm

Hart 3
Lowton 4
Mee 3
Tarkowski 3
Gibson 5
Taylor 4
Cork 4
Westwood 5
Hendrick 4
Barnes 5
Vokes 5

JBG 3
McNeil 3

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Re: Burnley v Everton - Player Ratings

Post by JohnMcGreal » Wed Dec 26, 2018 6:05 pm

Hart 3
Lowton 3
Tarkowski 3
Mee 3
Gibson 5
Taylor 3
Cork 3
Westwood 3
Hendrick 5
Barnes 3
Vokes 3

The entire team and the manager should have been given pelters at full time for that showing, but worryingly, a large portion of the crowd seem to have accepted these new lows as an inevitability. That kind of performance should never be accepted, no matter what.

A grotesque, unacceptable performance all round. If we don't see a positive response on Sunday, then all options must be considered by the board, because this can't be allowed to continue for another 6 months.
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Post by PhiladelphiaChris » Wed Dec 26, 2018 6:06 pm

Hart 4
Lowton 4
Tarkowski 4
Mee 5
Gibson 5
Taylor 5
Westwood 5
Cork 4
Hendrick 5
Barnes 5
Vokes 4

Gudmundsson 4
McNeil 4

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Post by bfcjg » Wed Dec 26, 2018 6:09 pm

Hart 3 dreadful. Needs dropping.
Lowton 5
Mee 4
Tarkowski 5
Gibson 6
Taylor 3
Cork 5
Westwood 6 tried
Hendrick 3
Barnes 6 mom put a shift in again.
Vokes 5

JBG 6
McNeil 3
Dyche 0.Three down nothing changes.

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Re: Burnley v Everton - Player Ratings

Post by Granny WeatherWax » Wed Dec 26, 2018 6:12 pm

Hart 3
Lowton 3
Mee 3
Tarkowski 3
Gibson 4
Taylor 4
Cork 3
Westwood 3
Hendrick 3
Barnes 5
Vokes 3

JBG 3
McNeil 3

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Post by burnleymik » Wed Dec 26, 2018 6:15 pm

Hart 4
Lowton 3
Tarkowski 4
Mee 3
Gibson 5
Taylor 5
Westwood 4
Cork 3
Hendrick 5
Barnes 3
Vokes 4

Gudmundsson 4
McNeil 3

At a loss after that one. Thought before half-time we were going to show some fight and go for it, but as soon as it went flat again, we looked hopeless. So many times we had a good position to try and play the ball through, instead we either went sideways, backwards or lumped it up top and although Vokes did okay, lumping it to Barnes, with Mina and Keane on his shoulder was pointless, yet we did it time and time again.

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Re: Burnley v Everton - Player Ratings

Post by taio » Wed Dec 26, 2018 6:15 pm

JohnMcGreal wrote:Hart 3
Lowton 3
Tarkowski 3
Mee 3
Gibson 5
Taylor 3
Cork 3
Westwood 3
Hendrick 5
Barnes 3
Vokes 3

The entire team and the manager should have been given pelters at full time for that showing, but worryingly, a large portion of the crowd seem to have accepted these new lows as an inevitability. That kind of performance should never be accepted, no matter what.

A grotesque, unacceptable performance all round. If we don't see a positive response on Sunday, then all options must be considered by the board, because this can't be allowed to continue for another 6 months.
A large portion of the crowd had quite rightly done one. I must be stupid for staying until the end.
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Re: Burnley v Everton - Player Ratings

Post by kaptin1 » Wed Dec 26, 2018 6:18 pm

Hart 4 - we have two other international goalies, time for a change!
Lowton 5
Tarkowski 5
Mee 4 (-1 for stupid handball)
Gibson 6 (+1 for goal)
Taylor 6
Cork 6
Westwood 5
Hendrick 5
Barnes 7
Vokes 5

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Post by OffTheBar » Wed Dec 26, 2018 6:23 pm

Hart 4
Lowton 4
Tarkowski 3
Mee 3
Gibson 5
Taylor 4
Cork 4
Westwood 3
Hendrick 4
Barnes 5
Vokes 3

JBG 4
McNeil 5

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Re: Burnley v Everton - Player Ratings

Post by careyclaret » Wed Dec 26, 2018 6:23 pm

Hart. 3. Very poor. First and fourth goals were ridiculous
Lowton 4. If he was brought in to provide more attacking threat than Bardsley it didn't work
Tarks. 4. Poor at both ends
Mee. 3. Goals 1,3 and 5
Gibson. 6. The best of the back 3
Cork. 4. Huff and puff
Hendrick. 5 . Anonymous at times but some contribution
Woodward. 5. Better second half
Vokes. 4. Didn't get anything
Barnes. 4. See Vokes

Subs.4

Didn't understand our approach today. Lob long balls into a strong and tall Everton back three and do it from defence not out wide?!

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Re: Burnley v Everton - Player Ratings

Post by ClaretTony » Wed Dec 26, 2018 6:26 pm

Leyland Claret wrote:I think they are the worst marks I have ever seen you give. I watched on the TV and it was as bad as it could get Crystal Palace apart
They are the worst and some of those 3 marks were worse than others. We keep making changes but some players keep their places. Time for a change in goal for me.
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Re: Burnley v Everton - Player Ratings

Post by Buxtonclaret » Wed Dec 26, 2018 6:28 pm

Hart 3
Lowton 4
Tarks 3
Mee 4
Gibson 6
Taylor 6

Cork 3
Westwood 5
Hendrick 5
Barnes 5
Vokes 6

JBG 4
McNeil 5

Least said.
Everton are a very average side.
We're plumbing new depths.
We were truly awful.

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Re: Burnley v Everton - Player Ratings

Post by Murger » Wed Dec 26, 2018 6:30 pm

Dyche - 0

Players - 0

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Re: Burnley v Everton - Player Ratings

Post by RVclaret » Wed Dec 26, 2018 6:35 pm

A relegation performance if ever I saw one.

Hart 3 (needs replacing)
Lowton 4
Tark 4
Mee 3
Gibson 6*
Taylor 5
Westwood 3
Cork 5
Hendrick 5
Barnes 5
Vokes 3

Dyche 3

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Re: Burnley v Everton - Player Ratings

Post by TVC15 » Wed Dec 26, 2018 6:38 pm

Hart 3 - needs dropping. Pope is a far better keeper in the context of the current Burnley team and the added fact that we seem to be playing against giants nearly every week.
Lowton 3 - did not deserve to start the game / and did not deserve to end the game either
Tarks 3 - countless mistakes. Needs to stop thinking he is Bobby Moore and get back to playing more like Darren Moore.
Mee 3 - if I could score lower than 3 then I would. He is the one who should have been dropped after his display at Arsenal. Long has been playing far better than him.
Gibson 4- best of our defenders
Taylor 4 - shocking for first goal. He looks out of his depth but is not helped by the players around him.
Cork 3 - got embarrassed and over run
Westwood 3 - ditto
Hendrick 3 - ditto
Barnes 5 (MoM) - at least should some fight.
Vokes 4 - at least won some headers in first half but their centre backs will not have an easier game this season.

JBG 3 - game over by the time subs came on
McNeil 3 - ditto
Wood 3 - ditto (and he should not have come on after the way he has played this season)

Dyche dropped Bardsley and Long today. He may have had his reasons but when you drop players who have been playing well and clearly playing better than others that can have a big impact on individual and team spirit.
I do not see how we can avoid relegation now. We are devoid of quality in so many areas of the pitch it’s not something that can be resolved in a transfer window in this league because of the quality of the teams we are playing every week. It’s ok if you need to bring in a couple of players but not when you are looking at 7 or 8 players every week who are performing poorly.

Major rebuilding job needed and i’m afraid it might have to start with the manager leaving (and that’s first time I have thought that since he came)

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Re: Burnley v Everton - Player Ratings

Post by bf2k » Wed Dec 26, 2018 6:43 pm

Hart 4
Lowton 4
Tarkowski 4
Mee 5
Gibson 5
Taylor 4
Cork 4
Westwood 6
Hendrick 5
Barnes 4
Vokes 4

Gudmundsson 4
McNeil 4
Wood 3

The management 0
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Re: Burnley v Everton - Player Ratings

Post by ecc » Wed Dec 26, 2018 6:43 pm

Mina must have a bloody headache tonight.

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Re: Burnley v Everton - Player Ratings

Post by SalisburyClaret » Wed Dec 26, 2018 6:49 pm

Hart 4
Lowton 4
Tarkowski 6*
Mee 4
Gibson 5
Taylor 6
Cork 5
Westwood 6
Hendrick 4
Barnes 5
Vokes 4

Gudmundsson 4
McNeil 4

Playing a system that relies on wingbacks when we don’t have any is never going to work
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