Would you accept David Moyes as a new manager

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Re: Would you accept David Moyes as a new manager

Post by Jakubclaret » Thu Dec 27, 2018 11:45 am

evensteadiereddie wrote:We stick with Dyche, whatever happens, for at least twelve months.
Agree, in the circumstances it’s the only sensible option despite the need for improvement, the realistic target is staying in the division & it’s only 3pts call it 4 on GD from doing that.

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Re: Would you accept David Moyes as a new manager

Post by ClaretMoffitt » Thu Dec 27, 2018 12:06 pm

evensteadiereddie wrote:We stick with Dyche, whatever happens, for at least twelve months.
agreed.

He has earned the chance to pull this around.

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Re: Would you accept David Moyes as a new manager

Post by BabylonClaret » Thu Dec 27, 2018 12:22 pm

Hmm. We are 3 points behind. We are struggling for confidence and goals. We cant keep a clean sheet for longer than 20 minutes. We have a shocking run in.

We are fast running out of time to turn it around. There have been some signs of the old Burnley recently but increasingly its looking more like performances against Liverpool and Arsenal are thr outliers. Yesterday was not dissimilar ti Newcastle except Everton are a better side and punished us.

West Ham is a crucial game and the attendance for Barnsely will be a key barometer. Poor numbers there should be a big warning for the club.

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Re: Would you accept David Moyes as a new manager

Post by IndigoLake » Thu Dec 27, 2018 12:24 pm

I'd accept it and give him time but I wouldn't be best pleased about it.

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Re: Would you accept David Moyes as a new manager

Post by BurnleyFC » Thu Dec 27, 2018 12:31 pm

Yes.

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Re: Would you accept David Moyes as a new manager

Post by alwaysaclaret » Thu Dec 27, 2018 12:35 pm

Would be interesting to see if dyche would do anything different if he could turn the clock back pre europa league, I would be most interested to see would he have signed Joe Hart, however to the question of David moyes, it's a resounding no from me, the premier league has evolved even over the last 2/3 years let alone 5/10, moyes even for a club such as us is yesterday's man imo.

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Re: Would you accept David Moyes as a new manager

Post by Devils_Advocate » Thu Dec 27, 2018 12:37 pm

jlup1980 wrote:If Dyche goes I'd look at Jokanovic. He's had two promotions from the Championship with Watford and Fulham, plus he plays attack minded, entertaining football (this is a must for me) . You won't find a more suitable manager for us currently, certainly not one who's openly available. Best case scenario we become a yo yo club who play the game the right way.
Our board has been successful at recognising the right manager at the right time who on the face of it looks nowt special ala Coyle and Dyche so dont get too hung up on the well who would you replace him with malarkey as that is one area I trust our board

That said if (and i dont think it will happen) Dyche was to leave Jokanovic would be the one I would want. The football Fulham played in the Championship for the previous 3 seasons was breathtaking and the best I have seen outside the topflight

As for Moyes...no for me he is further down the downward managerial spiral as Dyche appears to be on
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Re: Would you accept David Moyes as a new manager

Post by alwaysaclaret » Thu Dec 27, 2018 12:40 pm

ClaretMoffitt wrote:agreed.

He has earned the chance to pull this around.
Maybe, but time is something we don't have. And for anyone thinking the transfer window will be our saviour, my guess is it will be even more disastrous than we've had already.
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Re: Would you accept David Moyes as a new manager

Post by dougcollins » Thu Dec 27, 2018 12:41 pm

're Hart, I doubt Dyche thinks he has made a mistake.

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Re: Would you accept David Moyes as a new manager

Post by alwaysaclaret » Thu Dec 27, 2018 12:44 pm

dougcollins wrote:'re Hart, I doubt Dyche thinks he has made a mistake.
I'm afraid at this stage if this is still the case, it really is time for him to go, sorry but some people really do need to look at hart's all round game.

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Re: Would you accept David Moyes as a new manager

Post by Bosscat » Thu Dec 27, 2018 12:47 pm

lifelongclaret wrote:If Twitter is too be believed, David Moyes has been at our last 4 games, I don’t want this topic to be another argument about Sean Dyche and should he stay or go... but would you want Moyes as the next gaffer,
David Moyes has been a regular visitor for 3 bloody seasons ffs... he is a m8 of Barry Kilby.

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Re: Would you accept David Moyes as a new manager

Post by Top Claret » Thu Dec 27, 2018 12:51 pm

The next 2 games are crucial, if we don't pick up any points the situation needs to be accessed.

He looks to be running out of ideas and personal to turn this around and there is only him to blame.

I honestly think we need a new man at the helm next season no matter what the outcome of this. We really are not progressing on the field. We have little pace or flair in the squad and the Dyche style of football as really now run its course.

Possibly a new manager would give them a lift and be able to organise the defence better. A new man might be able to get better use out of the players we do have with flair, players who are capable of taking men on. Brady, Lennon and Taylor and who knows he might give Vydra a chance.
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Re: Would you accept David Moyes as a new manager

Post by jlup1980 » Thu Dec 27, 2018 1:02 pm

ClaretMoffitt wrote:agreed.

He has earned the chance to pull this around.
How much time would you allow him then? I agree that he's banked enough credit to be given time to get us out of this rut but, and it's a BIG but, this rut has now lasted 12 months. Every other PL and EFL club would have sacked him by now. We're running at about 15% win rate for 12 months. That's not a blip, it's a terminal problem.
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Re: Would you accept David Moyes as a new manager

Post by PutTheWheelieBinsOut » Thu Dec 27, 2018 1:31 pm

I'd get David Moyes in to the end of the season. See if he can get the squad firstly playing football instead of this dreaded Dycheball and secondly lets see if he can get us enough points to keep us up. At the end of the season we review it to see if we keep Moyes or move on to someone else.

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Re: Would you accept David Moyes as a new manager

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Thu Dec 27, 2018 2:58 pm

jlup1980 wrote:If Dyche goes I'd look at Jokanovic. He's had two promotions from the Championship with Watford and Fulham, plus he plays attack minded, entertaining football (this is a must for me) . You won't find a more suitable manager for us currently, certainly not one who's openly available. Best case scenario we become a yo yo club who play the game the right way.
Play the game the right way?
Pretty but losing regularly?
Ok then...

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Re: Would you accept David Moyes as a new manager

Post by South West Claret. » Thu Dec 27, 2018 3:02 pm

What couch is he sitting on at the moment?

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Re: Would you accept David Moyes as a new manager

Post by ElectroClaret » Thu Dec 27, 2018 3:06 pm

jlup1980 wrote:How much time would you allow him then?
It isn't just time though, is it? The squad needs massive investment next month. I just hope the board back him. Assuming the players we're after will come.

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Re: Would you accept David Moyes as a new manager

Post by levraiclaret » Thu Dec 27, 2018 3:12 pm

No we should stick with Dyche unless he chooses to go.

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Re: Would you accept David Moyes as a new manager

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Thu Dec 27, 2018 3:20 pm

ElectroClaret wrote:It isn't just time though, is it? The squad needs massive investment next month. I just hope the board back him. Assuming the players we're after will come.
Does it need massive investment?
How much are you going to throw out there as a figure?

Or does it need wiser investment?

Fulham spent £100 million in the summer and changed manager recently, that's working out well for them last I checked...
They've even got a striker that some people on here want at Burnley.

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Re: Would you accept David Moyes as a new manager

Post by Steve1956 » Thu Dec 27, 2018 3:24 pm

Last season our squad was Dychefit
This season are they Dycheunfit?
What is Dycheball?
Stick with Dyche please.

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Re: Would you accept David Moyes as a new manager

Post by Goobs » Thu Dec 27, 2018 4:03 pm

Good God No!

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Re: Would you accept David Moyes as a new manager

Post by IanMcL » Thu Dec 27, 2018 6:48 pm

No to everyone.

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Re: Would you accept David Moyes as a new manager

Post by PWBFC » Thu Dec 27, 2018 6:51 pm

No. Sideways step.

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Re: Would you accept David Moyes as a new manager

Post by otto1959 » Thu Dec 27, 2018 8:17 pm

Yes, right now.

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Re: Would you accept David Moyes as a new manager

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Fri Dec 28, 2018 2:07 am

Not for me. IF Dyche goes. And i hope he doesnt. I hope he turns it round and summer is a huge lesson,if he goes I would like us to look at:

Lampard
Gerrard
Barton

All young managers with fresh ideas. All experienced at the top level. All leaders on and off the field. All pretty clued up. All with excellent contacts in the game (and even media which can help) and most importantly all doing pretty well in their first jobs in cases exceeding expectation all three with limited budgets.

They also seem to be doing pretty well with the loan system.

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Re: Would you accept David Moyes as a new manager

Post by jlup1980 » Fri Dec 28, 2018 9:14 am

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:Play the game the right way?
Pretty but losing regularly?
Ok then...
As opposed to playing ugly and losing regularly?

The Fulham Board shot themselves in the foot over the summer and made Jokanovic the scapegoat.

It's well known that Jokanovic didn't want most of the players the Board signed; they were signed behind his back whether they were needed or not. If reports are to be believed, the only player he really wanted to sign was Mitrovic.

We talk on here about the possible negative impact Joe Hart has had in our squad and he's only one player; we can only guess at the impact a dozen or so signings must have had on the Fulham players who won them promotion.

He's a good manager. He's shown that at both Watford and Fulham. I'm not saying he's the answer but I'd much rather give him a try than the likes of Moyes, Pardew etc etc!

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Re: Would you accept David Moyes as a new manager

Post by jlup1980 » Fri Dec 28, 2018 9:16 am

ElectroClaret wrote:It isn't just time though, is it? The squad needs massive investment next month. I just hope the board back him. Assuming the players we're after will come.
Investment won't happen. We all know that. The Board wouldn't spend when we were at our strongest last summer so they sure as hell won't sign anyone when we're at our weakest!

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Re: Would you accept David Moyes as a new manager

Post by LS7 » Fri Dec 28, 2018 9:30 am

Yes to Moyes from me if circumstances end up that way.
But also hoping for 4 points from next 2 games and a bit of a rally for Dyche.

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Re: Would you accept David Moyes as a new manager

Post by bobinho » Fri Dec 28, 2018 9:45 am

BabylonClaret wrote:West Ham is a crucial game and the attendance for Barnsely will be a key barometer. Poor numbers there should be a big warning for the club.
It should I agree. Depends if they see it that way or put it down to other factors. Post Xmas blues, lack of disposable, recent attitudes towards cup football etc.

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Re: Would you accept David Moyes as a new manager

Post by bobinho » Fri Dec 28, 2018 9:49 am

Oh, and no to Moyes thanks.

Let SD sort it.

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Re: Would you accept David Moyes as a new manager

Post by Top Claret » Fri Dec 28, 2018 9:55 am

I would get Moyes in if results don't pick up in the next week. Moyes knows the club and he watches the team on a regular basis and is an experienced manager.

He has made some bad decisions since he left Everton. United, Sunderland and moving to Spain. Those clubs were the right clubs at the wrong time.

He is well respected in football and has plenty of contacts. I would not hesitate in giving him the job until the end of season then reviewing his contract in June

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Re: Would you accept David Moyes as a new manager

Post by JohnMac » Fri Dec 28, 2018 10:01 am

If Dyche were to go and David Moyes was appointed I would get behind him and hope our current plight was improved.

My 'acceptance' has no bearing whatsoever on club business, I don't pay his wages and I've already got a season ticket.

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Re: Would you accept David Moyes as a new manager

Post by nonayclaret » Fri Dec 28, 2018 4:30 pm

Nope

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Re: Would you accept David Moyes as a new manager

Post by LoveCurryPies » Fri Dec 28, 2018 4:44 pm

Right_winger wrote:aye Some pretty poor clubs eh. Achieved a lot more as a manager than Dyche ever will.
Give your head a shake fella!

Did you forget finishing 7th last year? Two promotions in 5 years?

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Re: Would you accept David Moyes as a new manager

Post by Silkyskills1 » Fri Dec 28, 2018 4:54 pm

Three key games coming up. No points and I feel that any credibility the manager currently has will be totally negated. Then there's the FA Cup tie,versus lower league opposition but evidently 'up for t' cup with their allocation sold out. It should be a win for us though,shouldn't it? Worryingly we all know that not to be the case. I'm looking at these fixtures and just wondering what is the least we could get from them to prevent the intensity against the manager reaching unprecedented levels.
As someone posted above if we were to be relegated I wouldn't be surprised to see Joey Barton being touted for the managerial seat.

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Re: Would you accept David Moyes as a new manager

Post by ClaretTony » Fri Dec 28, 2018 4:58 pm

lifelongclaret wrote:If Twitter is too be believed, David Moyes has been at our last 4 games
No need to believe Twitter. He has, he's good friends with the Kilby family so often comes as their guest.

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Re: Would you accept David Moyes as a new manager

Post by ClaretTony » Fri Dec 28, 2018 4:59 pm

Silkyskills1 wrote:As someone posted above if we were to be relegated I wouldn't be surprised to see Joey Barton being touted for the managerial seat.
Well he's having an average season in League One so why not?

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Re: Would you accept David Moyes as a new manager

Post by John Johnson 1605 » Fri Dec 28, 2018 5:02 pm

Silkyskills1 wrote: As someone posted above if we were to be relegated I wouldn't be surprised to see Joey Barton being touted for the managerial seat.
Anybody touting Joey Barton really needs their head examining.

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Re: Would you accept David Moyes as a new manager

Post by Silkyskills1 » Fri Dec 28, 2018 5:09 pm

Nothing more than conjecture from me, that's all. His recent connections with us would have the media all over it. Sean Dyche wasn't 'pulling up any trees' when he came to us and I recall the general consensus on his appointment was one of mild indifference.
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Re: Would you accept David Moyes as a new manager

Post by Silkyskills1 » Fri Dec 28, 2018 5:10 pm

John Johnson 1605 wrote:Anybody touting Joey Barton really needs their head examining.
Was that your opinion when he joined us?

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Re: Would you accept David Moyes as a new manager

Post by WestMidsClaret » Fri Dec 28, 2018 5:12 pm

Would I royally ****!

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Re: Would you accept David Moyes as a new manager

Post by John Johnson 1605 » Fri Dec 28, 2018 5:13 pm

When he joined, as a footballer, I was intrigued.

This turned to a huge appreciation for his role in our promotion.
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Re: Would you accept David Moyes as a new manager

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sat Dec 29, 2018 1:52 am

ClaretTony wrote:No need to believe Twitter. He has, he's good friends with the Kilby family so often comes as their guest.
Hes even more boring than i thought, coming to watch us in his spare time!

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Re: Would you accept David Moyes as a new manager

Post by ElectroClaret » Sat Dec 29, 2018 2:12 am

Silkyskills1 wrote:Was that your opinion when he joined us?
He didn't join us as a manager though, Silky. But as a player. A very good one
Manager? No.

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Re: Would you accept David Moyes as a new manager

Post by Vegas Claret » Sat Dec 29, 2018 2:34 am

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:Play the game the right way?
Pretty but losing regularly?
Ok then...
we are playing dog shite football and losing right now

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Re: Would you accept David Moyes as a new manager

Post by longhair » Sat Dec 29, 2018 6:07 am

NO way

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Re: Would you accept David Moyes as a new manager

Post by NL Claret » Sun Jan 06, 2019 11:19 am

4/11 favourite to be the next Stoke City manager.

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Re: Would you accept David Moyes as a new manager

Post by The Enclosure » Sun Jan 06, 2019 11:28 am

No......next

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Re: Would you accept David Moyes as a new manager

Post by RalphCoatesComb » Sun Jan 06, 2019 11:28 am

NL Claret wrote:4/11 favourite to be the next Stoke City manager.
A good fit for Stoke. Both are going nowhere!

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Re: Would you accept David Moyes as a new manager

Post by The Enclosure » Sun Jan 06, 2019 12:00 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/football/20 ... ed-assault" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
This put me off him to some extent not something you want to see from the manager of your club in the press whether true or not .

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