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The Vydra Question

Post by brexit » Thu Dec 27, 2018 3:49 pm

This is really annoying me has anyone get any theory that is remotely plausible as to why Vydra isn't playing?
I will even take submissions from the more eccentric posters. :D

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Re: The Vydra Question

Post by cockneyclaret » Thu Dec 27, 2018 3:53 pm

He said he was a vegan thus not being able to enjoy one of SD legendary omelettes, this infuriated SD and banished him to the reserves and bench.
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Re: The Vydra Question

Post by jdrobbo » Thu Dec 27, 2018 3:53 pm

He has been ousted by the rest of the squad...

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Re: The Vydra Question

Post by Goobs » Thu Dec 27, 2018 3:53 pm

He's **** :D

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Re: The Vydra Question

Post by jrgbfc » Thu Dec 27, 2018 3:57 pm

There's still a little bit of pace and flair left for Dyche to knock out of him before he can play for us.
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Re: The Vydra Question

Post by Hedontplayforyou » Thu Dec 27, 2018 4:11 pm

Needs to be deployed in the no.10 role. Sadly we still haven’t found a way to play with this yet. How? I don’t know but there we go.

—————————————Pope———————————————————
Lowton—————-Tarks———-Gibson—————Brady———-

——————————Defour——-Cork————————————————

JBG——————————Vydra——————————Barnes——————

————————————-Vokes————————————————————

This would be my suggestion if everyone was fit.Something needs to change, if Brady and Defour aren’t fit then Westwood and Taylor. I don’t think Taylor is up to the battle we are facing . I’d also be tempted to say Hendrick over Cork too as he’s looking way off the pace .

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Re: The Vydra Question

Post by bfcjg » Thu Dec 27, 2018 4:14 pm

It's certainly helped maintain my erections . Downside is the knock on effect on the old eyesight.
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Re: The Vydra Question

Post by theroyaldyche » Thu Dec 27, 2018 4:14 pm

I kno lets sign a proven goalscorer who scored more than any1 else last season albeit in a diffferent but tough league and not play him

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Re: The Vydra Question

Post by warksclaret » Thu Dec 27, 2018 4:30 pm

There seems to be an obsession about playing some new recruits-Vydra, Tarks (for a whole year), Wells, Gibson. Cant be good for their motivation
He looks quick and runs into good channels and space. Suspect Dyche thinks he is a little lightweight. Think he has not been treated unfairly, considering he is one of our dearest recruits

What message does it send to anyone we might be approaching

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Re: The Vydra Question

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Thu Dec 27, 2018 4:31 pm

Dyche is dyslexic. He thought he was signing Vardy...
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Re: The Vydra Question

Post by Guller Bull » Thu Dec 27, 2018 4:33 pm

Logged in to like that :D
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Re: The Vydra Question

Post by ontario claret » Thu Dec 27, 2018 4:35 pm

Dyche is dyslexic? Dyslexia lures?
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Re: The Vydra Question

Post by FactualFrank » Thu Dec 27, 2018 4:36 pm

A singing Vardy wouldn't be any use.

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Re: The Vydra Question

Post by Colburn_Claret » Thu Dec 27, 2018 4:39 pm

FactualFrank wrote:A singing Vardy wouldn't be any use.
He would be more entertaining than Saturday :(
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Re: The Vydra Question

Post by moaninclaret » Thu Dec 27, 2018 4:41 pm

Start him on sunday, see how he plays for an hour then haul him off and replace him with wood,lol only joking guys sorry.

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Re: The Vydra Question

Post by Colburn_Claret » Thu Dec 27, 2018 4:42 pm

Absolutely no sodding idea. If he'd looked poor in his cameos you might excuse it, but he hasn't.
Why buy players and not use them ?
Why buy players who are good at what they do, then try to change them into something they're not ?
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Re: The Vydra Question

Post by SGr » Thu Dec 27, 2018 4:42 pm

Remember when he scored in his first start and we won 4-0 then got dropped 2 games later?

I do.
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Re: The Vydra Question

Post by joey13 » Thu Dec 27, 2018 5:09 pm

Not a Dyche signing

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Re: The Vydra Question

Post by South West Claret. » Thu Dec 27, 2018 5:13 pm

Has Dyche ever been asked why having signed him he hardly plays him?

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Re: The Vydra Question

Post by joey13 » Thu Dec 27, 2018 5:14 pm

South West Claret. wrote:Has Dyche ever been asked why having signed him he hardly plays him?
He didn’t sign him

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Re: The Vydra Question

Post by Quicknick » Thu Dec 27, 2018 5:18 pm

Who did, then?

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Re: The Vydra Question

Post by South West Claret. » Thu Dec 27, 2018 5:18 pm

Who did then?

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Re: The Vydra Question

Post by Erasmus » Thu Dec 27, 2018 5:23 pm

It seems that when we sign players, Sean Dyche often likes to integrate them gradually into the team so that they have time in training to learn what is required of them. Seems reasonable.
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Re: The Vydra Question

Post by jrgbfc » Thu Dec 27, 2018 5:23 pm

South West Claret. wrote:Who did then?
Maybe the recruitment team recommended him and the Board sanctioned it as a panic buy once we realised we weren't getting Jay Rod?

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Re: The Vydra Question

Post by BabylonClaret » Thu Dec 27, 2018 5:23 pm

Colburn_Claret wrote:Absolutely no sodding idea. If he'd looked poor in his cameos you might excuse it, but he hasn't.
Why buy players and not use them ?
Why buy players who are good at what they do, then try to change them into something they're not ?
Have you actually watched his cameos? Argue that he needs time to settle in or more game time to get into form, but don't argue that his appearances show he's looked good. That may be our game that makes him look worse but we're not going to change our style of play to accommodate a player who once scored the most goals in the league below and in his previous (albeit brief) outing at this level failed.

mental signing. might as well have persevered with Wells

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Re: The Vydra Question

Post by jrgbfc » Thu Dec 27, 2018 5:26 pm

BabylonClaret wrote:Have you actually watched his cameos? Argue that he needs time to settle in or more game time to get into form, but don't argue that his appearances show he's looked good. That may be our game that makes him look worse but we're not going to change our style of play to accommodate a player who once scored the most goals in the league below and in his previous (albeit brief) outing at this level failed.

mental signing. might as well have persevered with Wells
Because he's been frozen out for 6 months when he does get on you sense he is too eager to impress and trying too hard, hence the ball bouncing off him etc. Let's give him a decent run in the side and then judge him.
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Re: The Vydra Question

Post by FactualFrank » Thu Dec 27, 2018 5:36 pm

BabylonClaret wrote:Have you actually watched his cameos? Argue that he needs time to settle in or more game time to get into form, but don't argue that his appearances show he's looked good. That may be our game that makes him look worse but we're not going to change our style of play to accommodate a player who once scored the most goals in the league below and in his previous (albeit brief) outing at this level failed.

mental signing. might as well have persevered with Wells
This is what you said back in August:
BabylonClaret wrote:Vydra i like the look of and could be a good piece of business.
So you said it could be a good bit of business and seemed all for it, and now you're saying it was a mental signing.

How was it a mental signing without hindsight?
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Re: The Vydra Question

Post by BabylonClaret » Thu Dec 27, 2018 5:44 pm

Fair point Frank. You have me there :)

But if we're not playing him because (insert reason here) then ultimately it's a waste isn't it? We don't know what happens during the window - he came in quickly, we'd not signed anyone at all and on the face of it he's scored a lot in the Champ and might kick on. Beyond a few you tubes videos I'd not seen much but he looked ok. And if you're wanting to be positive in the summer (and lets be honest we were all were desperate for any good news by the time we signed Vydra) you're going o look at seeing the bright side.

Given he's not really featured at all (and when he has he's looked rather like Hennings) you have to wonder if we've coached him badly or we didn't scout him properly. I'd like to think we signed him on more than a few checks of you tube.

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Re: The Vydra Question

Post by South West Claret. » Thu Dec 27, 2018 5:46 pm

jrgbfc wrote:Because he's been frozen out for 6 months when he does get on you sense he is too eager to impress and trying too hard, hence the ball bouncing off him etc. Let's give him a decent run in the side and then judge him.

Absolutely, unfair not to give the fella a run in the team before commenting on his ability.
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Re: The Vydra Question

Post by FactualFrank » Thu Dec 27, 2018 5:51 pm

Don't get me wrong BC, I agree that not playing him is a bit bizarre. I've just seen a few posters comment on Wells and Vydra being silly transfers, yet (and you aren't alone here), saying they were fine with the transfer at the time. Wells could still be useful for us if we go down, and Vydra was the top scorer in the Championship with something like 21 goals and a goal every 2 games. He could still end up being extremely useful for us - even if that is next season in the Championship.

The fact remains though that if we do go down, we have 2 players (Wood and Vydra) who were the Championship top scorers prior to joining us. It's not a bad backup, if we do go down. It seems to me that buying the brilliant Premier League players is very difficult for a club like Burnley. The location, the wages, the (possible) relegation clause, it all adds up and I'm sure turns most players off joining.

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Re: The Vydra Question

Post by joey13 » Thu Dec 27, 2018 5:58 pm

South West Claret. wrote:Who did then?
Garlick

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Post by ksrclaret » Thu Dec 27, 2018 6:02 pm

joey13 wrote:Garlick
Do you have any info to back that up then?

I find that idea that Garlick went out of his way to sign a player Dyche didn't want to be total and utter bullsh1t to be honest, but I'd be open to being proved wrong...

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Re: The Vydra Question

Post by piston broke » Thu Dec 27, 2018 6:02 pm

As we have no skill players available we are limited to hooooooooofball. The minimum requirement is 6’2”. Vydra fails this test but does make a lovely cup of tea.
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Re: The Vydra Question

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Thu Dec 27, 2018 6:07 pm

On a serious note. He’s clearly not a dyche signing. Why else would he be on the bench and barely featuring. Dyche isn’t going to sign a player then refuse to play him. I fear he is making a point by not playing him.

There is no logic to Dyche not playing his own record signing or one of.

If his other expensive signings.
He played Hendrick through awful form.
He played and plays Wood constantly when in awful form.
He plays Brady whenever fit.
He plays defour whenever fit.

Vydra like Wells and Hennings and Vossen will be forever a mystery. I said it early days.

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Re: The Vydra Question

Post by Wuggawumphwumph » Thu Dec 27, 2018 6:28 pm

Did we ever find out why RVS was frozen out.
Anyone heard anything

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Re: The Vydra Question

Post by Barry_Chuckle » Thu Dec 27, 2018 6:42 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote: He’s clearly not a dyche signing. Why else would he be on the bench and barely featuring. Dyche isn’t going to sign a player then refuse to play him. I fear he is making a point by not playing him.
And if this is the case then Dyche must go and go now!

How Dyche can keep someone on the bench who has ability and offers us something different, when a blind man on a galloping horse can see that BIG hoof up front isn't working, yet changes a big man for another big man and more of the same which still won't work, just to make a point :evil:

There is nobody bigger than the club, and to go out of your way to not utilise every option available to you and get the best result possible would be managerial suicide for me.

If this is true, Garlick should be fuming and end this ego tug of war ASAP.

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Re: The Vydra Question

Post by Roosterbooster » Thu Dec 27, 2018 6:47 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:He plays defour whenever fit
No he didn’t. He brought Agyei on ahead of him once!!!

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Re: The Vydra Question

Post by evensteadiereddie » Thu Dec 27, 2018 6:54 pm

To be fair, it's not very likely that Dyche is not playing Vydra to prove a point.
I've no doubt that when Dyche tweaks the system to get us attacking with a bit more verve, Vydra will feature prominently.
If fit, I reckon he'll play v. West Ham.

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Re: The Vydra Question

Post by bobinho » Thu Dec 27, 2018 7:04 pm

Hedontplayforyou wrote:Needs to be deployed in the no.10 role. Sadly we still haven’t found a way to play with this yet. How? I don’t know but there we go.

—————————————Pope———————————————————
Lowton—————-Tarks———-Gibson—————Brady———-

——————————Defour——-Cork————————————————

JBG——————————Vydra——————————Barnes——————

————————————-Vokes————————————————————

This would be my suggestion if everyone was fit.Something needs to change, if Brady and Defour aren’t fit then Westwood and Taylor. I don’t think Taylor is up to the battle we are facing . I’d also be tempted to say Hendrick over Cork too as he’s looking way off the pace .
As much as I admire your attacking emphasis, Brady’s role won’t help us at all.

Dunno how many games we have to play when we are up against it before people realise that Bardksley is what we need in a defender over Lowton. He just brings soooooooooo much more. Better footballer than Lowton? No. Want him beside you in your team when you are in a fight? YES.

Barnes out left? What have you seen from him that suggests this is where his future is?

I admire your aspirations, but I thank Christ you aren’t around when team selection is required.

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Post by Hedontplayforyou » Thu Dec 27, 2018 7:34 pm

[quote="bobinho"]As much as I admire your attacking emphasis, Brady’s role won’t help us at all.

Dunno how many games we have to play when we are up against it before people realise that Bardksley is what we need in a defender over Lowton. He just brings soooooooooo much more. Better footballer than Lowton? No. Want him beside you in your team when you are in a fight? YES.

Barnes out left? What have you seen from him that suggests this is where his future is?

I admire your aspirations, but I thank Christ you aren’t around when team selection is required

So you’d rather the following side be picked again?

Hart
Lowton
Mee
Givson
Tarky
Taylor
Cork
Westwood
Hendrick
Vokes
Barnes.

Lump it forward and see what happens? One plan and one plan only ?

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Re: The Vydra Question

Post by bobinho » Thu Dec 27, 2018 8:01 pm

No. But I’d rather that than you decide.

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Re: The Vydra Question

Post by Hedontplayforyou » Thu Dec 27, 2018 8:17 pm

Haha ok then, so new ideas aren’t wanted.

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Re: The Vydra Question

Post by Wile E Coyote » Thu Dec 27, 2018 8:43 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Dyche is dyslexic. He thought he was signing Vardy...

haha, that's brilliant cricketfieldclarets.
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Re: The Vydra Question

Post by Longsidelenny » Thu Dec 27, 2018 10:08 pm

Vydra will be gone in January either on loan or permanently not a dyche player very strange signing buy the club

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Re: The Vydra Question

Post by Rileybobs » Thu Dec 27, 2018 10:16 pm

Hedontplayforyou wrote:Needs to be deployed in the no.10 role. Sadly we still haven’t found a way to play with this yet. How? I don’t know but there we go.

—————————————Pope———————————————————
Lowton—————-Tarks———-Gibson—————Brady———-

——————————Defour——-Cork————————————————

JBG——————————Vydra——————————Barnes——————

————————————-Vokes————————————————————

This would be my suggestion if everyone was fit.Something needs to change, if Brady and Defour aren’t fit then Westwood and Taylor. I don’t think Taylor is up to the battle we are facing . I’d also be tempted to say Hendrick over Cork too as he’s looking way off the pace .
Not sure a 4-2-4 with a winger at full back is what we need after conceding 5 goals.

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Re: The Vydra Question

Post by brexit » Thu Dec 27, 2018 11:03 pm

so the consensus is not a dyche player or he is diddling mees wife like tarks is (allegedly)

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Re: The Vydra Question

Post by Lancasterclaret » Thu Dec 27, 2018 11:47 pm

One day the mad bastards who believe every pub rumour going won't post it on here.

But that day is clearly not today.

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Re: The Vydra Question

Post by brexit » Fri Dec 28, 2018 12:03 am

Lancasterclaret wrote:One day the mad bastards who believe every pub rumour going won't post it on here.

But that day is clearly not today.
pot kettle

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Re: The Vydra Question

Post by Lancasterclaret » Fri Dec 28, 2018 12:06 am

Not for the first time, I do wonder if you are all there with a reply that makes as little sense as that.

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Re: The Vydra Question

Post by Boydesque » Fri Dec 28, 2018 8:22 am

Anyone who has vokes anywhere near their team is delusional

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