Full pre match interview v West Ham

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Fri Dec 28, 2018 11:53 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fZyIaD447I

South West Claret. · Post by **South West Claret.** » Sat Dec 29, 2018 12:11 am

I can't argue any of that even if some might.

Vintage Claret · Post by **Vintage Claret** » Sat Dec 29, 2018 12:32 am

Nothing to argue with but hardly an inspiring "we will fight them on the beaches" type speech either.

Hibsclaret · Post by **Hibsclaret** » Sat Dec 29, 2018 12:36 am

You watch that and feel that this guy is the absolute dogs doodars and we are so lucky to have him running our great club.

Can we all just get behind the team when they need it the most as it will give us the best chance to stay up? I may have an issue with the odd player (one in particular, no names mentioned) but if the ginger genius thinks he’s good enough it is good enough for me.

The last thing we should be doing is starting to drive this great manager from our club. As for threads about Moyes, Allardyce et all, these guys are not fit to lace Dyche’s boots...

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sat Dec 29, 2018 12:36 am

I find him frustrating, on one hand he's been a superb ambassador for the club and he talks a lot of sense and "reality" - I just hate the style of football he has us playing (or not playing)

HunterST_BFC · Post by **HunterST_BFC** » Sat Dec 29, 2018 12:54 am

South West Claret. wrote:I can't argue any of that even if some might.

Heaton question dodged...

Can't think he says anything wrong though?

I just wish the questions were different......................... Vyd etc

CoolClaret · Post by **CoolClaret** » Sat Dec 29, 2018 1:00 am

Hibsclaret wrote:You watch that and feel that this guy is the absolute dogs doodars and we are so lucky to have him running our great club.

Can we all just get behind the team when they need it the most as it will give us the best chance to stay up? I may have an issue with the odd player (one in particular, no names mentioned) but if the ginger genius thinks he’s good enough it is good enough for me.

The last thing we should be doing is starting to drive this great manager from our club. As for threads about Moyes, Allardyce et all, these guys are not fit to lace Dyche’s boots...

I agree tbh.

You can't not love Dyche, **** I hope he turns it around <3

Wile E Coyote · Post by **Wile E Coyote** » Sat Dec 29, 2018 1:22 am

really good questions, (whoever it was) and honest answers, faultless, well done Sean, excellent.

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Sat Dec 29, 2018 12:30 pm

South West Claret. wrote:I can't argue any of that even if some might.

I'll have a go

"There's been 4 or 5 points that have gotten away from us that shouldn't"
"We should be 4 or 5 points better off, and although it still isn't were we'd want to be, they'd certainly be welcomed"

Name them points...

I think we are even at best in terms of deserved points.

jrgbfc · Post by **jrgbfc** » Sat Dec 29, 2018 12:55 pm

MACCA wrote:I'll have a go

"There's been 4 or 5 points that have gotten away from us that shouldn't"
"We should be 4 or 5 points better off, and although it still isn't were we'd want to be, they'd certainly be welcomed"

Name them points...

I think we are even at best in terms of deserved points.

If anything we're lucky to even have managed 12 points. Taking 4 points from the Cardiff and Huddersfield games was daylight robbery!

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Sat Dec 29, 2018 1:05 pm

jrgbfc wrote:If anything we're lucky to even have managed 12 points. Taking 4 points from the Cardiff and Huddersfield games was daylight robbery!

I thought so, but with several in full agreement with Mr Dyche, thought I was g9ung blind, and or both... might run a quick quiz.

Hibsclaret · Post by **Hibsclaret** » Sat Dec 29, 2018 1:10 pm

MACCA wrote:I'll have a go

"There's been 4 or 5 points that have gotten away from us that shouldn't"
"We should be 4 or 5 points better off, and although it still isn't were we'd want to be, they'd certainly be welcomed"

Name them points...

I think we are even at best in terms of deserved points.

One at Arsenal
One at home to Watford
One at home to Liverpool
Two more at Southampton
One at home to Newcastle

ClaretAL · Post by **ClaretAL** » Sat Dec 29, 2018 1:17 pm

how many times did he say " it because how the club is run here" when asked about spending money and transfers. Direct shot fired across the chairman and board may be? In the past its always been this is "OUR approach to ensure the club is run correctly"

Silkyskills1 · Post by **Silkyskills1** » Sat Dec 29, 2018 1:21 pm

Hibsclaret wrote:One at Arsenal
One at home to Watford
One at home to Liverpool
Two more at Southampton
One at home to Newcastle

Of those I would concur with a point v Newcastle. Three of the others were 3-1 defeats so that's asking a lot. Sounded a bit resigned to me with little or no defiance/resolve that is what his team's have been built on. Anyway, see what happens tomorrow.

HiroshimaClaret · Post by **HiroshimaClaret** » Sat Dec 29, 2018 1:22 pm

"...pretty unlikely circumstances for the first 3 goals." Time to go.

Indecisive · Post by **Indecisive** » Sat Dec 29, 2018 1:23 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:I find him frustrating, on one hand he's been a superb ambassador for the club and he talks a lot of sense and "reality" - I just hate the style of football he has us playing (or not playing)

He’s playing a style to try and get results. We wouldn’t be able to ‘out football’ the vast majority of this league. I think 95% of fans were happy last year... there were some spells of really good play, but on the whole it was pragmatic more than spectacular. It’s not clicked this year, and we are going to need a real change, and a slice of luck, to avoid relegation. I just can’t see someone else coming in and having a better chance than Dyche at turning things round.

Murger · Post by **Murger** » Sat Dec 29, 2018 1:26 pm

Hibsclaret wrote:One at Arsenal
One at home to Watford
One at home to Liverpool
Two more at Southampton
One at home to Newcastle

You are even more delusional than first feared if you think we deserved anything from those games.

diamondpocket · Post by **diamondpocket** » Sat Dec 29, 2018 1:32 pm

To me it sounded as though nothing is gonna change; we'll keep working away, analysing our play, tinkering if necessary, basically what we have done since Aug. Add to the fact our board aint gonna move an inch on its approach in Jan, which is notoriously difficult to buy and we're crap with loans, then we are in for the same old muck that's been dished up the last few months.
He lowered expectations and said basically last year was a fluke and we are now back to where we ought to be; must be thrilling and motivating that for the players!!

Hibsclaret · Post by **Hibsclaret** » Sat Dec 29, 2018 1:33 pm

Murger wrote:You are even more delusional than first feared if you think we deserved anything from those games.

Delusional coming from you is a complement. I’m guessing you were at the Emirates where we played 12 men and deserved a point. We should have beaten Southampton, no doubt about that one.

Both the 3 - 1 score lines had 90+ minute break away goals, one of which was offside.

diamondpocket · Post by **diamondpocket** » Sat Dec 29, 2018 1:34 pm

the only other point we should have had is the Spurs one after the last min goal; we should have had enough to keep the door shut.
Maybe Newcastle at home as they were as dire as us.

Murger · Post by **Murger** » Sat Dec 29, 2018 1:34 pm

Hibsclaret wrote:Delusional coming from you is a complement. I’m guessing you were at the Emirates where we played 12 men and deserved a point. We should have beaten Southampton, no doubt about that one.

Both the 3 - 1 score lines had 90+ minute break away goals, one of which was offside.

We didn't deserve anything at Arsenal.

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Sat Dec 29, 2018 1:35 pm

Hibsclaret wrote:One at Arsenal
One at home to Watford
One at home to Liverpool
Two more at Southampton
One at home to Newcastle

Aresenal disagree
Watford disagree, perfect away display.
Liverpool having taken the lead, you'd expect a point if we were playing like previous years .
Southampton agree we had the first half, I was glad for the 0-0 in the end , will let you have 2 points lost there.
Newcastle , prefect away display, one we try and adopt although they went for it then sat back, and countered. Could/should have had 3 or 4
We usually go for a clean sheet and nick 1. Perfect tactical Benitez type display did us.

So if I generously give you 3 extra , if say our 4 return from Huddersfield and Cardiff should have been 1. We are back to even. And the games I were generous points wise to you certainly weren't similar displays to when our points were gained.

Dark Cloud · Post by **Dark Cloud** » Sat Dec 29, 2018 1:39 pm

Hibsclaret wrote:One at Arsenal
One at home to Watford
One at home to Liverpool
Two more at Southampton
One at home to Newcastle

Agreed except for the Watford game where they were miles better and we deserved nothing, BUT we almost nicked a point at Spurs and that would have been richly deserved imo even if reward for totally negative tactics.

Hibsclaret · Post by **Hibsclaret** » Sat Dec 29, 2018 1:41 pm

As usual you miss the point.

He’s talking about 4 or 5 getting away from us. Clearly he’s not referencing where we got more than deserved perhaps.

As for Arsenal disagree. I’m guessing you weren’t there if u think we deserved nothing.

That was for Macca....

Hibsclaret · Post by **Hibsclaret** » Sat Dec 29, 2018 1:43 pm

Dark Cloud wrote:Agreed except for the Watford game where they were miles better and we deserved nothing, BUT we almost nicked a point at Spurs and that would have been richly deserved imo even if reward for totally negative tactics.

That’ll be the 4 or 5 he’s talking about for sure

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Sat Dec 29, 2018 1:45 pm

Dark Cloud wrote:Agreed except for the Watford game where they were miles better and we deserved nothing, BUT we almost nicked a point at Spurs and that would have been richly deserved imo even if reward for totally negative tactics.

So do you think we bettered the preformance Newcastle gave against us when we played Cardiff?
Same for our display at Southampton compared to Huddersfield against us.

Um interested to see how people getting to the conclusion we deserved 4 points from Huddersfield with those terrible displays, yet we also deserved 4 points from Southampton and Newcastle when in reality they both created far more in those games than we managed in both the Huddersfield and Cardiff games combined.

NRC · Post by **NRC** » Sat Dec 29, 2018 1:46 pm

missing one more point at Spurs..

and, no, he has always detached himself from the collective

Hibsclaret · Post by **Hibsclaret** » Sat Dec 29, 2018 1:49 pm

MACCA wrote:So do you think we bettered the preformance Newcastle gave against us when we played Cardiff?
Same for our display at Southampton compared to Huddersfield against us.

Um interested to see how people getting to the conclusion we deserved 4 points from Huddersfield with those terrible displays, yet we also deserved 4 points from Southampton and Newcastle when in reality they both created far more in those games than we managed in both the Huddersfield and Cardiff games combined.

Point missed again

Dark Cloud · Post by **Dark Cloud** » Sat Dec 29, 2018 1:50 pm

MACCA wrote:So do you think we bettered the preformance Newcastle gave against us when we played Cardiff?
Same for our display at Southampton compared to Huddersfield against us.

Um interested to see how people getting to the conclusion we deserved 4 points from Huddersfield with those terrible displays, yet we also deserved 4 points from Southampton and Newcastle when in reality they both created far more in those games than we managed in both the Huddersfield and Cardiff games combined.

I'm slightly confused there Macca as the Udders game wasn't on that list, primarily I suspect because we all know we were lucky to get anything that day. The list was (I thought) games where we really could/should have got more than we did and tbh I may have been in the minority, but I thought we played pretty well against Newcastle and definitely deserved a draw. They got a bit lucky, especially with the first goal and nicked all the points. There was a lot of hysteria after that defeat as it really was a crucial match, even at that stage in the season and people went a bit overboard at how crap we were just because we lost it.

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Sat Dec 29, 2018 1:51 pm

Hibsclaret wrote:As usual you miss the point.

He’s talking about 4 or 5 getting away from us. Clearly he’s not referencing where we got more than deserved perhaps.

As for Arsenal disagree. I’m guessing you weren’t there if u think we deserved nothing.

That was for Macca....

Fair enough, so we should have 4 or 5 more on the board as we deserve the points when unfortunate not to get them, yet also deserve them when we were arguably fortunate to get some?

So in short, we want it to work both ways to suit what we want all the time.

Hibsclaret · Post by **Hibsclaret** » Sat Dec 29, 2018 1:52 pm

NRC wrote:missing one more point at Spurs..

and, no, he has always detached himself from the collective

I could see an extra one at Spurs but the performance probably didn’t quite deserve it even though the goal was late.

Hibsclaret · Post by **Hibsclaret** » Sat Dec 29, 2018 1:53 pm

MACCA wrote:Fair enough, so we should have 4 or 5 more on the board as we deserve the points when unfortunate not to get them, yet also deserve them when we were arguably fortunate to get some?

So in short, we want it to work both ways to suit what we want all the time.

No just trying to get you to understand what the great man said

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Sat Dec 29, 2018 1:53 pm

It’s all irrelevant as it’s about scoring goals at one end and keeping them out at the other, but on the balance of performances I would suggest that had we picked up/dropped the points below then it wouldn’t have been unfair;

Southampton +2
Cardiff -3
Newcastle +1
Spurs +1
Arsenal +1

Not sure why people are suggesting that we deserved less against Huddersfield as they created next to nothing. We were poor but after taking the lead a draw was fair. So on reflection I think we could be a couple of points better off but to conclude that we should be 4 or 5 better off would be ignoring the steal at Cardiff where we were woeful.

Hibsclaret · Post by **Hibsclaret** » Sat Dec 29, 2018 1:56 pm

Rileybobs wrote:It’s all irrelevant as it’s about scoring goals at one end and keeping them out at the other, but on the balance of performances I would suggest that had we picked up/dropped the points below then it wouldn’t have been unfair;

Southampton +2
Cardiff -3
Newcastle +1
Spurs +1
Arsenal +1

Not sure why people are suggesting that we deserved less against Huddersfield as they created next to nothing. We were poor but after taking the lead a draw was fair. So on reflection I think we could be a couple of points better off but to conclude that we should be 4 or 5 better off would be ignoring the steal at Cardiff where we were woeful.

Absolutely, but his words were 4 or 5 that got away from us....the Cardiff result is irrelevant to that

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Sat Dec 29, 2018 1:58 pm

Hibsclaret wrote:Absolutely, but his words were 4 or 5 that got away from us....the Cardiff result is irrelevant to that

I must admit I’ve not seen the interview, I was just commenting on the points gained/dropped. However it’s pointless stating how many points got away from us without acknowledging the points that we were fortunate to collect.

Hibsclaret · Post by **Hibsclaret** » Sat Dec 29, 2018 1:59 pm

Perhaps but all managers spin such things and that was what he meant (where we should have more than we got)

JohnMac · Post by **JohnMac** » Sat Dec 29, 2018 2:05 pm

If you watch the games against Watford and Newcastle again you can understand the fine margins comments, we played well enough to get something.

Elizabeth · Post by **Elizabeth** » Sat Dec 29, 2018 2:10 pm

I hope Sean soon realises that finding the balance he says he is trying to get in the video will not happen until he decides in his own mind that his tactic of instructing his players to pass the ball around at the back before slipping it to a midfield player who then passes it back to a defender to start all over again is not working and hasn't done all season.

His style of play is what is turning more and more fans off each game . He can come in front of the camera making excuses but saying he is not making excuses as much as he wants but it isn't washing with fans.

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Sat Dec 29, 2018 3:55 pm

Hibsclaret wrote:No just trying to get you to understand what the great man said

I understand.

Thanks for your views and opinions, very reasonable.

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Sat Dec 29, 2018 3:59 pm

He's beginning to remind me of Moyes when he took that awful Sunderland team down. Low on confidence, short of ideas and nothing to inspire the players.

Corky · Post by **Corky** » Sun Dec 30, 2018 10:01 am

The interview, which I have just seen, is like so many by the Manager. They are somewhat illusionary telling us absolutely nothing new whilst he waffles on for over 10 minutes.

If ever the comment, talking loud saying nothing, fits, it is now.

Granted, I will give you it is not helped by an interviewer not asking the questions that we want answers to.

South West Claret. · Post by **South West Claret.** » Sun Dec 30, 2018 11:06 am

ClaretAL wrote:how many times did he say " it because how the club is run here" when asked about spending money and transfers. Direct shot fired across the chairman and board may be? In the past its always been this is "OUR approach to ensure the club is run correctly"

Think you're maybe trying to read something into what he's saying when in fact all he's saying is the truth and nothing more CA.

South West Claret. · Post by **South West Claret.** » Sun Dec 30, 2018 11:19 am

Vegas Claret wrote:I find him frustrating, on one hand he's been a superb ambassador for the club and he talks a lot of sense and "reality" - I just hate the style of football he has us playing (or not playing)

I know what you mean VC and yes wouldn't it be great if we could play a more attacking game, but the players that can do that and defend are way out of our reach for obvious reasons.

So if you like we have found a way of being up there with the so called big boys for a fraction of the cost...and in some instances beating them like last season.

This season has been very different and difficult not least because of injuries to key players like Heaton and Pope in goal, Brady and Defour in mid-field. Then we had the opportunity to play in Europe which with the Pope injury again made things very very difficult so alll in all when you consider these things it's maybe not so surprising that we have struggled this season so far.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sun Dec 30, 2018 1:02 pm

South West Claret. wrote:I know what you mean VC and yes wouldn't it be great if we could play a more attacking game, but the players that can do that and defend are way out of our reach for obvious reasons.

So if you like we have found a way of being up there with the so called big boys for a fraction of the cost...and in some instances beating them like last season.

This season has been very different and difficult not least because of injuries to key players like Heaton and Pope in goal, Brady and Defour in mid-field. Then we had the opportunity to play in Europe which with the Pope injury again made things very very difficult so alll in all when you consider these things it's maybe not so surprising that we have struggled this season so far.

that's as maybe but plenty of other teams find gems, hopefully Rigg can help us with that going forward