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Re: Mcneil

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sun Dec 30, 2018 9:19 pm

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:He was signed after United released him! Sure a more catchy and fitting tune can be thought up instead of the generic ‘he’s one of our own’!
it soon changed to i just cant enough.

To be fair we are desperate for anyone.

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Re: Mcneil

Post by happyclaret17 » Sun Dec 30, 2018 9:21 pm

ClaretAL wrote:Music to my ears and i am hearing it a lot from the media too. Whenever Burnley do well, everyone states the opposition had a poor day. Absolutely fantastic to hear, but in reality we made them look poor and the couldn't compete.
no, we were good today but they were awful....Dyche got the tactics spot on and pelegrine got his badly wrong....if we can reproduce todays performance on a regular basis I will be delighted but we wont get many teams as poor as wet spam were today.
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Re: Mcneil

Post by FactualFrank » Sun Dec 30, 2018 9:23 pm

Why is it that every time we play well, it's because the other team played badly.
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Re: Mcneil

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sun Dec 30, 2018 9:24 pm

FactualFrank wrote:Why is it that every time we play well, it's because the other team played badly.
Because thats what usually happens. You play well and make them play bad.

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Re: Mcneil

Post by FactualFrank » Sun Dec 30, 2018 9:26 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Because thats what usually happens. You play well and make them play bad.
That went over your head. I'm on about people who use the 'but' word too much. We played well but... which is then followed by how poor the opposition was and that's why we won.

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Re: Mcneil

Post by Conroy92 » Sun Dec 30, 2018 9:34 pm

I too think he might be destined for a more central role, reminds me of Lingard a few seasons back.

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Re: Mcneil

Post by Vintage Claret » Sun Dec 30, 2018 9:41 pm

Very impressed with him today.

Had the confidence to run at the opposition, always showing for the ball and played some great forward passes out wide rather than the dull backwards/sideways passes we've seen too often from some of our midfielders this season.

Did tire towards the last quarter and I was surprised SD didn't bring Hendrick on at that stage but SD clearly had the confidence in him to see the game out and it was great that he managed the full 90 mins.

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Re: Mcneil

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sun Dec 30, 2018 10:25 pm

FactualFrank wrote:That went over your head. I'm on about people who use the 'but' word too much. We played well but... which is then followed by how poor the opposition was and that's why we won.
My sarcasm went over yours then :D

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Re: Mcneil

Post by Rileybobs » Sun Dec 30, 2018 10:38 pm

Socrates wrote:Other than Vokes and Vydra you mean
Does Vokes offer the mobility to run the channels which relieved so much pressure and does Vydra offer the same aerial strength and general hold up play which Wood showed today? Considering how well Barnes and Wood dominated their centre backs it was a big gamble to replace either of them for the less mobile Vokes and less known Vydra with a massive 3 points on the line. Turns out it was the right move by Dyche.

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Re: Mcneil

Post by jedi_master » Sun Dec 30, 2018 10:43 pm

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:He was signed after United released him! Sure a more catchy and fitting tune can be thought up instead of the generic ‘he’s one of our own’!
Clarets of the World
Dwight up your life
Every boy and every girl
Dwight up your life
Clarets of the world
Dwight up your life

Ahhhhhhhhhhhh

He goes down the left
We’re having a good time
He goes down the right
He makes us feel fine
Clarets to the front
Ha-ha-ha McNeil

I’ll see myself out.

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Re: Mcneil

Post by happyclaret17 » Sun Dec 30, 2018 10:45 pm

we were bloody awful at palace and they were good...I bet the palace fans knew we werent at it that day..today we were good and west ham were pants....why are some of our fans getting their knickers in a twist if a poster says it how it was today ( or are they saying that wet spam had a good game ????? ). I for 1 hope we dominate games like today on a regular basis but I aint going to think that many teams will be as poor as wet spam were. Give us a point minimum on wednesday and thats a great foundation for our survival in the prem....utc.

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Re: Mcneil

Post by Socrates » Sun Dec 30, 2018 10:50 pm

Rileybobs wrote:Does Vokes offer the mobility to run the channels which relieved so much pressure and does Vydra offer the same aerial strength and general hold up play which Wood showed today?
Are you being deliberately obtuse?

Or do you not see that Vokes offers the aerial strength and hold up play and Vydra can run the channels?

I think you’re on a wind up.

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Re: Mcneil

Post by Rileybobs » Sun Dec 30, 2018 11:27 pm

Socrates wrote:Are you being deliberately obtuse?

Or do you not see that Vokes offers the aerial strength and hold up play and Vydra can run the channels?

I think you’re on a wind up.
No I’m not on a wind up or being deliberately obtuse. My post said that there were no natural replacements for McNeill or Wood on the bench. We didn’t have a wide player on the bench so it’s pretty obvious that there was no obvious replacement for McNeill.

Wood was running the channels superbly and holding up the ball well. Vokes is good in the air but doesn’t offer the mobility of Wood. Vydra is mobile but doesn’t look particularly good at holding the ball up and is also unproven for us. As such, with 20 minutes to go there was no natural replacement for McNeill or Wood on the bench so Dyche stuck with what he had on the pitch and we held on to the win very comfortably. He was proven correct.

Edit - unless you are suggesting that Wood should have been replaced with both Vokes and Vydra which would be against the rules.

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Re: Mcneil

Post by Spiral » Mon Dec 31, 2018 1:39 am

He's going to be targeted now. That bloody wand of a left foot he has (to say nothing for the fact he's a 19 year old, development squad age), other teams will look at that and realise he has a ton of composure, and their only defence against it will be to get in his face and smash him before his composure sets in. West Ham weren't the most physical team we've played this season and we'll play more attritional games, but if we're sensible with his workload, get him on the weights a bit, we could be on to a player here.

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Re: Mcneil

Post by FactualFrank » Mon Dec 31, 2018 1:50 am

Spiral wrote:He's going to be targeted now. That bloody wand of a left foot he has (to say nothing for the fact he's a 19 year old, development squad age), other teams will look at that and realise he has a ton of composure, and their only defence against it will be to get in his face and smash him before his composure sets in.
Which will give our other players more time if the opposition double up. It's a good thing, it's not bad. Man City have about 8 players that the opposition would love to double up on.

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Re: Mcneil

Post by Vegas Claret » Mon Dec 31, 2018 2:18 am

McNeil didn't look like he cared if he was tackled, got stuck in well - good un

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Re: Mcneil

Post by Spiral » Mon Dec 31, 2018 2:23 am

Very true, Frank, but in spite of all that he could still do with being a kilo or two heavier. It's a rough game, and that extra mass is the difference between being shagged at 70 minutes and being shagged at 90. But I'm sure he'll grow into it. Michael Keane did it in a very short space of time. He did exceptionally well today, though. Wouldn't begrudge him the MOTM award on that performance.

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Re: Mcneil

Post by bfcjg » Mon Dec 31, 2018 9:38 am

Reminds me of Glenn Little. We are in for a treat.

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Re: Mcneil

Post by claretblue » Mon Dec 31, 2018 10:36 am

Aged 19 years and 38 days, Dwight is the first ever teenager to score a Premier League goal for Burnley.

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Re: Mcneil

Post by MiltonKeynesClaret93 » Mon Dec 31, 2018 10:56 am

You gotta fight
For your Dwight
McNeil
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Re: Mcneil

Post by JTClaret » Mon Dec 31, 2018 12:33 pm

He looked to be the answer to what we wanted and needed in the last transfer window - plus he looked better than when he played at the start of the season so obviously improving.
Defended like Arfield and attacked like nobody else we have, fantastic to watch. And his play was so simply the midfielders knew he'd be there when crossing balls in. I hope he can do it in most games and it wasn't West Ham being poor.
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Re: Mcneil

Post by Jeremy_Bentham » Mon Dec 31, 2018 12:37 pm

jedi_master wrote:Clarets of the World
Dwight up your life
Every boy and every girl
Dwight up your life
Clarets of the world
Dwight up your life

Ahhhhhhhhhhhh

He goes down the left
We’re having a good time
He goes down the right
He makes us feel fine
Clarets to the front
Ha-ha-ha McNeil

I’ll see myself out.
. hopes that jedi_master was very, very drunk when he posted the above.
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Re: Mcneil

Post by FactualFrank » Mon Dec 31, 2018 12:38 pm

Spiral wrote:Very true, Frank, but in spite of all that he could still do with being a kilo or two heavier. It's a rough game, and that extra mass is the difference between being shagged at 70 minutes and being shagged at 90. But I'm sure he'll grow into it. Michael Keane did it in a very short space of time. He did exceptionally well today, though. Wouldn't begrudge him the MOTM award on that performance.
I'm sure SD will get him in the gym if he needs a few more pounds. It's never done Messi any harm though :D

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Re: Mcneil

Post by jedi_master » Mon Dec 31, 2018 2:43 pm

. wrote:. hopes that jedi_master was very, very drunk when he posted the above.
Not drunk enough to excuse it, sadly.

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Re: Mcneil

Post by TheFamilyCat » Mon Dec 31, 2018 2:51 pm

This is Dwight McNeil of the Burnley
This is Dwight McNeil on the ball
This is Dwight McNeil of the Burnley scoring a goal

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Re: Mcneil

Post by Bosscat » Mon Dec 31, 2018 2:58 pm

jedi_master wrote:Clarets of the World
Dwight up your life
Every boy and every girl
Dwight up your life
Clarets of the world
Dwight up your life

Ahhhhhhhhhhhh

He goes down the left
We’re having a good time
He goes down the right
He makes us feel fine
Clarets to the front
Ha-ha-ha McNeil

I’ll see myself out.
Ahhhhh the Girls of Spice paraphrase you do.
Make jokes is good my young Paduan

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Re: Mcneil

Post by dsr » Mon Dec 31, 2018 4:54 pm

Dwight said Fred? :shock:

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Re: Mcneil

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Mon Dec 31, 2018 5:30 pm

Gonna get up, gonna get up
Gonna get up
Thank, thank, thank you, baby
Gonna get up, gonna get up
Gonna get up
Walk right in and
'Cause you Dwight on time
'Cause you Dwight on time, Dwight on time
'Cause you Dwight on time
'Cause you Dwight on time, Dwight on time

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Re: Mcneil

Post by TheFamilyCat » Mon Dec 31, 2018 5:42 pm

Crazy, crazy, crazy
Crazy Dwight.

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Re: Mcneil

Post by kentonclaret » Mon Dec 31, 2018 5:45 pm

Michael Duff apparently not jumping for joy.

He was looking forward to having young Dwight on loan at Cheltenham Town from January onwards. :)

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Re: Mcneil

Post by Rileybobs » Mon Dec 31, 2018 6:11 pm

Barnes, Dwight, Long
Barnes, Dwight
Barnes, Dwight, Long

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Re: Mcneil

Post by Hedontplayforyou » Mon Dec 31, 2018 6:14 pm

Excited by this lad , and I agree that he could be part of a midfield 3 at some point with the driving force which has been lacking in that area.

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Re: Mcneil

Post by LeadBelly » Mon Dec 31, 2018 6:30 pm

Surprised nobody's come up with the great tune/song (Courtesy of Free circa summer 1970) ..... or maybe only the over 55s remember this one

All Dwight now, Burnley, It's all Dwight now.
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Re: Mcneil

Post by Iloveyoubrady » Mon Dec 31, 2018 7:12 pm

Looks very promising. Can definitely see him in the centre - he naturally roams around the pitch and is tall. Not the quickest but very technically gifted so I think if he is to become a top player he will move into the centre of the pitch.

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Re: Mcneil

Post by Walt » Mon Dec 31, 2018 9:55 pm

So pleased he got a chance and took it. Could be a revelation in time. Tricky decision for dyche now to manage his progression.

After such a good start be tough on the lad if he isn't a regular squad member now, got the shirt so up to others to take it from him. Can imagine it would need a very strong mental character to slum it with u23s now he knows himself he can step up to that level when required.

Yes he's had the odd bench game and a couple of games earlier in season but he looked much more at home yesterday, more ready for it.

I don't for a minute think he's a nailed on starter as his fitness clearly needs time but it's great we've got a young lad coming through into team. Long overdue.

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Re: Mcneil

Post by tiger76 » Mon Dec 31, 2018 10:54 pm

Walt wrote:So pleased he got a chance and took it. Could be a revelation in time. Tricky decision for dyche now to manage his progression.

After such a good start be tough on the lad if he isn't a regular squad member now, got the shirt so up to others to take it from him. Can imagine it would need a very strong mental character to slum it with u23s now he knows himself he can step up to that level when required.

Yes he's had the odd bench game and a couple of games earlier in season but he looked much more at home yesterday, more ready for it.

I don't for a minute think he's a nailed on starter as his fitness clearly needs time but it's great we've got a young lad coming through into team. Long overdue.
We need to manage his development carefully,plenty of teenagers have a breakthrough in Premier League teams (Rashford for one) and then stall the following season,but Dwight has the tools to play a big role in our immediate and longer-term future.

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