Clyne and Solanke potentially to Bournemouth

ClaretAndJew · Post by **ClaretAndJew** » Fri Jan 04, 2019 2:26 pm

Would be excellent for Bournemouth if these come off. Shame we don't have the type of money. Would love Clyne here.

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Fri Jan 04, 2019 2:39 pm

Clyne could get back to being a decent preformer, as for solanke, seems to be 1 of those forwards who has the reputation, yet you don't see him regularly playing never mind scoring.

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Fri Jan 04, 2019 2:40 pm

And Cahill to Fulham ? He could be a great call for them

duncandisorderly · Post by **duncandisorderly** » Fri Jan 04, 2019 2:41 pm

Clyne would be a great signing, Solanke is going to have two or three year career of 'potential' and 50,000 a week for doing naff all before dropping through the leagues.

Goobs · Post by **Goobs** » Fri Jan 04, 2019 2:51 pm

FCBurnley wrote:And Cahill to Fulham ? He could be a great call for them

Exact type of signing I wouldn't want us to make. way past his best and on big wages. Fulham are just a nicer more southerly Boro IMO

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Fri Jan 04, 2019 3:09 pm

Fulham could end up spending £150-200 million this season, and still go down. Has any club gone down with throwing that much money at players like it's going out of fashion?

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Fri Jan 04, 2019 3:19 pm

FCBurnley wrote:And Cahill to Fulham ? He could be a great call for them

He would organise them, for sure. Not far from home, either!

bobinho · Post by **bobinho** » Fri Jan 04, 2019 3:25 pm

Great move by Bournemouth if true.

Let’s not forget they have more clout than us whether we like that or not, so we can’t be asking our board to be signing this type of player. At the moment we can’t do this sort of business.

I’d like to think we have at least one target, even tho we probably should be looking at three - possibly more.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Fri Jan 04, 2019 3:28 pm

Seems a bit of a waste getting Clyne since Howe can't organise a defend to save his life!

ksrclaret · Post by **ksrclaret** » Fri Jan 04, 2019 3:31 pm

Spijed wrote:Seems a bit of a waste getting Clyne since Howe can't organise a defend to save his life!

And yet they're enjoying their fourth consecutive PL season, most likely going to be five.

Impressive for someone who can't organise a defence to save his life

SGr · Post by **SGr** » Fri Jan 04, 2019 3:37 pm

Fee reported as £19m plus add ons for Solanke.

Incredible business from Liverpool - and further evidence the European market is the place to be now.

Longside4evr · Post by **Longside4evr** » Fri Jan 04, 2019 3:41 pm

Theirs several brackets in the prem
Top six clubs wages in a league of their own maybe Everton West Ham Leicester wolves fullham
next
Palace Bournemouth Brighton Watford
Southampton
next
Newcastle Cardiff Huddersfeild us
If you look at the table you get what you pay for
We always have had to punch above our weight

ksrclaret · Post by **ksrclaret** » Fri Jan 04, 2019 3:44 pm

Crikey £19m for Solanke. Surely there are better players out there who'd cost much less than that?

Bournemouth seem to be a little like us, albeit with much more money, in that they seem to rely heavily on the British market, and they pay well over the odds as a result. Ake for £18m and Ibe for £15m spring to mind.

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Fri Jan 04, 2019 3:48 pm

What has Solanke done to justify even being in the Premier League let alone commanding a fee like that?

21 games in the Premier League, 1 goal. He scored 7 in 25 for Vitesse but that, really, has absolutely no bearing on his ability to do it in England. I was gobsmacked when he randomly got an England cap, but I am incandescent with confusion at the fact that someone is spending that on him.

You'd have thought they would have learned their lesson with Jordon Ibe.

Papabendi · Post by **Papabendi** » Fri Jan 04, 2019 3:52 pm

If Solanke is really that good, you have to ask why Liverpool are getting rid, even despite their striking riches - quality from the youth set up is worth its weight in gold.

Goobs · Post by **Goobs** » Fri Jan 04, 2019 3:55 pm

You would assume if they are paying that money for Solanke then one of either King or Wilson will be on their way out.

Reecey1987 · Post by **Reecey1987** » Fri Jan 04, 2019 4:08 pm

Solanke has signed no messing about

CrosspoolClarets · Post by **CrosspoolClarets** » Fri Jan 04, 2019 4:13 pm

Tall, quick, excellent youth pedigree, only 21, English, not much more money than our recent signings (Wood etc).

Excellent signing by Eddie.

MrMeeseeks · Post by **MrMeeseeks** » Fri Jan 04, 2019 4:19 pm

Plucky little Bournemouth chucking out £20 million for a completely unproven striker.

SGr · Post by **SGr** » Fri Jan 04, 2019 4:20 pm

£34m+ combined for Solanke and Ibe. Liverpool know how to generate cash.

Goobs · Post by **Goobs** » Fri Jan 04, 2019 4:20 pm

Solanke has always looked decent enough when I have seen him and will probably suit their style of play. Will be interesting to see what other business Bournemouth are involved in.

Falcon · Post by **Falcon** » Fri Jan 04, 2019 4:44 pm

That's the sort of money you pay for English striker of that age nowadays.

Jakubs Tash · Post by **Jakubs Tash** » Fri Jan 04, 2019 4:47 pm

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Seems A LOT of money based on potential....

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Fri Jan 04, 2019 4:50 pm

I mean, its a lot of money but there is a lot of potential there.

Saying that, they splashed out big on Jordan Ibe as well.....

claretonthecoast1882 · Post by **claretonthecoast1882** » Fri Jan 04, 2019 4:50 pm

Reecey1987 wrote:Solanke has signed no messing about

You sound surprised Liverpool have quickly accepted this fee. Had this been us you would be whinging about the fee.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Fri Jan 04, 2019 4:54 pm

and further evidence the European market is the place to be now.

For this transfer window at least. After this one? It could well be work permits so good luck with your 2nd division French midfielders then.

LeadBelly · Post by **LeadBelly** » Fri Jan 04, 2019 4:55 pm

As per POST 16, I think this points to Bournemouth thinking that they cant keep Wilson (and it has been conjectured that a few bigger clubs have sniffed around Wilson recently).
If not - then obviously Bournemouth have a lot more money than they generate to spend (transfers & wages combined).

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Fri Jan 04, 2019 4:55 pm

The best way the big clubs can stop anyone getting close to them is buying up all the talent and selling for a fortune to smaller clubs.

Chester Perry · Post by **Chester Perry** » Fri Jan 04, 2019 5:21 pm

SGr wrote:£34m+ combined for Solanke and Ibe. Liverpool know how to generate cash.

they do - but seem to rely on 2 clubs to generate it:
- Bournemouth for young highly hyped talents they have decided to reject (they have no problem playing young talent they believe in)
- Barcelona for huge talents they know they can no longer afford to keep

in both scenarios they appear to make the buying club pay super premium prices for what they are getting and have a single target in mind which they need the money for and will definitely improve the team.

The only deal recently where they could be said not to have exercised super huge value is Sterling (though at the time it seemed a ridiculous price) and that is because Sterling has come on leaps and bounds under Pep

SGr · Post by **SGr** » Fri Jan 04, 2019 5:32 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:For this transfer window at least. After this one? It could well be work permits so good luck with your 2nd division French midfielders then.

I’ll avoid trying to turn this one into yet another Brexit thread, but possibly. A lot of uncertainty.

Burnley Ace · Post by **Burnley Ace** » Fri Jan 04, 2019 5:53 pm

CrosspoolClarets wrote:Tall, quick, excellent youth pedigree, only 21, English, not much more money than our recent signings (Wood etc).

Excellent signing by Eddie.

30% more and probably higher wages.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Fri Jan 04, 2019 5:54 pm

No probably about it.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Fri Jan 04, 2019 6:13 pm

Makes you wonder how much Dwight McNeil is worth.

Like Solanke, he hasn't played much PL football either!

Chester Perry · Post by **Chester Perry** » Fri Jan 04, 2019 6:46 pm

Spijed wrote:Makes you wonder how much Dwight McNeil is worth.

Like Solanke, he hasn't played much PL football either!

first needs to be plucked from a youth set-up by a top club famed for blooding and trusting young talent - hyped as a result of said club's recent record with young players - then assessed and rejected by that club on closer inspection despite initial promise - all of which implies something wrong with Solanke's attitude or his likelihood of being injury prone not unlike Ibe - for the record we believe McNeil has a good attitude as SD is showing increasing belief in him

MrMeeseeks · Post by **MrMeeseeks** » Fri Jan 04, 2019 8:04 pm

Spijed wrote:Makes you wonder how much Dwight McNeil is worth.

Like Solanke, he hasn't played much PL football either!

He’s already got the same number of goals!

aggi · Post by **aggi** » Fri Jan 04, 2019 8:11 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:I mean, its a lot of money but there is a lot of potential there.

Saying that, they splashed out big on Jordan Ibe as well.....

Jordon Ibe got more assists than all but one of our players last season. He's not set the world alight but he's done ok and features pretty regularly.

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Fri Jan 04, 2019 8:34 pm

aggi wrote:Jordon Ibe got more assists than all but one of our players last season. He's not set the world alight but he's done ok and features pretty regularly.

Probably says more about us than Ibe !
He has not been a good buy for them.
£16m paid for someone who is usually on the bench. He can’t be far from being at the end of his contract as it seems a while ago since they signed him and Mings.

Liverpool might have spent a fortune on Alison and Van Dyke but they have made some pretty tidy profit on players aswell.
Ibe, Solanke, Ings, and Coutinho have generated the best part of £200m profit....which when you look at the eleven they started with last night that profit paid for a big chunk of the current team.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Fri Jan 04, 2019 8:58 pm

So 19 mill for Solanke who has done the square root of **** all versus the 18 million Wolves want to pay for Abraham who has played loads and has plenty of goals - Howe is like Redknapp, spend spend spend

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Fri Jan 04, 2019 9:18 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:So 19 mill for Solanke who has done the square root of **** all versus the 18 million Wolves want to pay for Abraham who has played loads and has plenty of goals - Howe is like Redknapp, spend spend spend

Didn't 'Arry get a cut of all the transfers as well?

Pimlico_Claret · Post by **Pimlico_Claret** » Fri Jan 04, 2019 9:20 pm

Spijed wrote:Didn't 'Arry get a cut of all the transfers as well?

No, it was his dog...

Cubanclaret · Post by **Cubanclaret** » Fri Jan 04, 2019 9:24 pm

Alan Shearer’s scoring record was bang average before he signed for Blackburn too. I fancy Solanke will do well at Bournemouth- these players are obviously attracted by playing for Eddie, because playing in front of 10K every other week is not otherwise an attractive option you wouldn’t think.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Fri Jan 04, 2019 9:28 pm

Cubanclaret wrote:Alan Shearer’s scoring record was bang average before he signed for Blackburn too. I fancy Solanke will do well at Bournemouth- these players are obviously attracted by playing for Eddie, because playing in front of 10K every other week is not otherwise an attractive option you wouldn’t think.

But Shearer was seen to have huge potential, which he delivered. Didn't he score a hattrick on his debut for Southampton.

Where is the same potential seen in Solanke? If he was that good Liverpool would have kept him.

ClaretAndJew · Post by **ClaretAndJew** » Fri Jan 04, 2019 9:43 pm

Spijed wrote:But Shearer was seen to have huge potential, which he delivered. Didn't he score a hattrick on his debut for Southampton.

Where is the same potential seen in Solanke? If he was that good Liverpool would have kept him.

23 goals in 118 games for Southampton. Lethal.

Cubanclaret · Post by **Cubanclaret** » Fri Jan 04, 2019 9:52 pm

Not comparing them, just suggesting that a good grounding is a good grounding, and I fancy he’ll kick on at Bournemouth.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Fri Jan 04, 2019 9:56 pm

ClaretAndJew wrote:23 goals in 118 games for Southampton. Lethal.

But the difference was, Shearer was wanted by one of the biggest clubs in the World - Man U, and the richest club in the world at the time - Rovers.

Every club knew Shearers potential - he went onto become one of the best strikers in the game.

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Fri Jan 04, 2019 9:56 pm

Whatever happened to FFP ?

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Fri Jan 04, 2019 10:08 pm

LeadBelly wrote:As per POST 16, I think this points to Bournemouth thinking that they cant keep Wilson (and it has been conjectured that a few bigger clubs have sniffed around Wilson recently).
If not - then obviously Bournemouth have a lot more money than they generate to spend (transfers & wages combined).

Wilson's nailed on for Chelsea isn't he,whether in this window or the summer seems to be the question.

Helps when your bankrolled by a billionaire.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Fri Jan 04, 2019 10:19 pm

tiger76 wrote:Wilson's nailed on for Chelsea isn't he,whether in this window or the summer seems to be the question.

Helps when your bankrolled by a billionaire.

Surely Chelsea have to do far better than Wilson if they hope to compete with Man City and Liverpool.

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Fri Jan 04, 2019 10:41 pm

Spijed wrote:Surely Chelsea have to do far better than Wilson if they hope to compete with Man City and Liverpool.

Wilson's numbers are impressive this season nearly 1 in 2 and several assists,Chelsea have never replaced Costa he was a niggly sod,but he was always good for 20 a season,achieved this in 2 of his 3 seasons at the Bridge,they are far to reliant on Hazard to spearhead their attack,Morata flatters to deceive.

Even amongst the top six there is a pecking order and Chelsea aren't at the top nowadays,the real star names will plump for both Manchester clubs.

If Chelsea can qualify for the Champions League this might aid their recruitment,but the gulf is growing even Roman's wealth can't compete with City's Arab money.

aggi · Post by **aggi** » Fri Jan 04, 2019 11:55 pm

TVC15 wrote:Probably says more about us than Ibe !
He has not been a good buy for them.
£16m paid for someone who is usually on the bench. He can’t be far from being at the end of his contract as it seems a while ago since they signed him and Mings.

Liverpool might have spent a fortune on Alison and Van Dyke but they have made some pretty tidy profit on players aswell.
Ibe, Solanke, Ings, and Coutinho have generated the best part of £200m profit....which when you look at the eleven they started with last night that profit paid for a big chunk of the current team.

He featured in all but 6 of Bournemouth's premier league games last season. He's not been great but he's featuring enough that he's not really an example of Bournemouth and their profligate transfer policy. They bought him for decent money and he's involved in most games.

A good point about the contract but given how involved he is they may well be looking to renew his contract.